Lair: This is How You Play The Game With Sixaxis

Stella - 837 days 6 hours ago

Oh please.

There never was any doubt Lair was going to get trashed by the little fanboys at review sites. This suggestion that somehow 'reviewers were rushed' or other crap is just inane.

Lair's controls are:

Tilt left and right to steer
One button for breath attack, one button for close attacks where you duke it out with the other dragon

And if you want to get 'fancy' you can do a snap forward to do a dash for speed and you can do a wrist snap up to do a 180 degree turn

That's it!

Lair got trash by fanboys as joke sites like EGM or 1Up because:

It is a 1080p graphically insane PS3 game
Makes it obvious that 25/50 gig games sizes are going to be common with its 4 gigs per level data sizes
It is a PS3 game with motion controls

Lair has the hate of both the Nintendo and Xbox rabid fanboy communities.

Great F-ing game. It's good to see the joke reviews of the game getting shown for the farce they are.

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Maddens Raiders - 837 days 6 hours ago

with the mart-in and his son the dude on the loose your bound to hear an earful of reasons from NON PS3 players many reasons why this game SUX and of course they will give their anecdotal, ridiculous excuses why their brains aren't capable of using the sixaxis properly; and therefore know one elses should either.

Then again, these are the same people that send in broken consoles over and over again expecting different results. I can't wait to get back home to play this and Warhawk.

Nice find Merc.

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TheSadTruth - 837 days 5 hours ago

This is getting ridiculous... why are there so many idiots who refuse to actually read the ENTIRE reviews before assuming that the reviewers can't control well?

The problem isn't with flying, and it isn't with the first few levels, the horrible controls show their hard much later in the game when you have to do more complicated tasks with the piece of sh*t sixxaxis controller

showing a demonstration of flying, which was never why the game got reviewed poorly, and the second level, isn't going to change anything

just please give it up guys, Lair is not a good game

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Bathyj - 837 days 5 hours ago

I wonder if most people even realise the EGM reviews and the 1up reviews were written by the same guy.

He wrote a rushed review of unfinished code for EGM, we ALL know that, and then wrote a review for 1up as if more reviews giving it EXACTLY the same score some how gave it credibility. Pathetic Crispin Boyer.

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scottie2521 - 837 days 5 hours ago

i bought Lair yesterday just because you can play it on psp, but after playing for a while, its actaully not bad. but you have to really want to learn how to play. that means doing all the tutorials and practices.

i'm not a big fan of the motion controls at all, but after actually trying the game out and not being all upset about there not being an option to play with the sticks, i'm starting to really like it now and its alot of fun.

after reading all the reviews i figured they played through it quickly and were frustrated after a while like i was, THE FIRST DAY. today its whole lot better and now i'm enjoying it more. it just takes a lil time and effort. plus, if we really wanna take gaming to the next generation, we have to be willing to try new control scemes and not rely on the old way of playing (at least for one game, sony better not pull this sh!t again). and being able to play on psp is great just to show off to friends. i had everyone in the barborshop buggin when they saw it.

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TriggerHappy - 837 days 7 hours ago

yeah the timing is a bit off but is really about patience . Look at how when you gently move the controller, the Dragon do exactly as you wishes but when you move it the controller in an uncalled for manner, look at how everthing goes crazy on screen.

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CRIMS0N_W0LF - 837 days 7 hours ago

I don't see a plane unless its a jet fighter turning instantly

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Jenzo - 837 days 6 hours ago

It's a sci-fi dragon game, not a flight simulator lol! When you play Wii sports it does'nt take 1 second before the tennis player swings his racket. He swings it simultaneously as you swing the Wii-mote, just as it should be. Intuitive and precise! This only looks half-a$$ed. Sorry if you can't take the criticism, but that's how I feel.

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TheExecutive - 837 days 6 hours ago

Jenzo.... if i remember correctly the wii-mote and wii sports often gets confused when you swing the wii-mote around... in fact... I know it does because I own a wii. It is most noticable in golf, but there is a delay especially in boxing. Precise? I dont think so.

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Stella - 837 days 6 hours ago

"The response time looks awful."

I don't what the hell you are talking about.

You tilt left, the dragon immediately turns left.
You tilt right, the dragon immediately turns right.

As anyone who actually has the game knows.

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scheme_a - 837 days 6 hours ago

The guy who uploaded the video commented on youtube, and he said it's actually like Microsoft Flight Simulator. He seems to be an avid player of it, and that's why, he says, he is actually comfortable with its control.

And obviously, nobody complains to Microsoft for FS being so "slow."
It's just a difference of how game designers want you play.
I'm guessing they kind of wanted to simulate how a dragon can be controlled.
Not that they really know, but it makes sense if they model the movement based on real airplanes.

eiter way, i think it's a love it hate it kind of gameplay.

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gameforall - 837 days 6 hours ago

you are riding a Dragon not flying a F16

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BlazeXXL - 837 days 5 hours ago

I can still clearly remember that the developers (factor 5) said that it was their intention to make it feel like your riding a living and breathing creature.

Do you think a horse (just using it as an example, since a horse also has a lot of body weight and it got the same steering materials) would be able to turn around 180 degrees immediately?

I personally love this gameplay, reminds me of a flight simulator. And as far as I can tell, the reviewers are trying to play this game as a FPS (run and gun), that is not how the developers want you to play this game.

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TheSadTruth - 837 days 5 hours ago

you Sony fanboys are getting sad

no, it shouldn't take 1 second for the dragon to BEING moving after you tilt, it should IMMEDIATE but can still be SLOW

Jenzo is right on the money, I feel sorry for you 12 year old kids who feel like they have an obligation to a video game console, because you DON'T, it's just a fuc*ing video game kiddies

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scottie2521 - 837 days 5 hours ago

but when playin it in person its very accurate

it could be the setting he has on the motion sensor because you can adjust it.

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Blabbermouth - 837 days 2 hours ago

The more I look at what people are saying that own the game, and the vid that are coming in, the more I'm thinking that the reviewers where wrong,and didn't bother to learn the motion controls or got payed off.

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Jenzo - 836 days 13 hours ago

There's even video proof that clearly shows that the controls have latency problems, still you keep denying what most big video game sites have been claiming. I don't think IGN would use the word "Suxaxis" if Lair had functional and precise controls...

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Blood_Spiller - 837 days 6 hours ago

Watch the whole video, at the end he shows how it controls during a level with action going on.

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Blabbermouth - 837 days ago

that the dev's wanted a more realistic movement of the dragon, just think about it. Imagine your riding a giant bat or a glider. you wouldn't be able to make sharp turns a-pon sharp turns instantly. Remember where talking about a dragon here that uses its wings to glide most of the time, plus you have to take into account something that heavy moving through the air.

If you look at the parts where hes only making a subtle movements you'll notice it looks quite responsive(which is most of the time). Even then, with the moves(dragon battles, 180 degree flips), it will definitely look to the watcher that there will be a delay, first you have to execute the movement,and then the game pro-forms the manoeuvre.

Also I think that the difference between analog stick and motion control is that there is a more leverage in movement between the two.

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spasticjustice - 836 days 11 hours ago

I'm sorry, I just can't respect someones opinion when they say pro-forms, and manoeuvre. It's perform, and maneuver.....

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TheSadTruth - 837 days 5 hours ago

apparently two kids don't agree with your comment, maybe they are blind? or suffer from some sort of mental handicap? Maybe that is why they don't notice this in the video?

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m9105826 - 837 days 3 hours ago

You can adjust the sensitivity in the options menu. It turns instantly for me. The only things I can think of are that he either a.) hasn't checked the menu, or b.) wanted it to look worse. I honestly hope its a.

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SofaKingReetodded - 836 days 21 hours ago

I actually have the game and there is no lag in response to the controls.

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Taker_129 - 837 days 5 hours ago

When you are on the gound you are constantly getting shot at by dragons flying above you it's insane.

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Ju - 837 days 5 hours ago

I do not really agree to your Warhawk Six-Axis comment. I have played Warhawk at the E3-2006, and the current released version is a complete different game (which is sad, IMO). I do not see how the six axis works in Warhawk. If you quote game design issues, than I'd say they apply to Warhawk as well.

- changing control scheme: e.g. if the Warhawk is in hover mode or boost mode.
- six axis is global for ground vehicles and the warhawk. There is no setting
to just use it in flight or/and ground.

These are just to issues which screwed up six axis in Warhawk pretty badly. Maybe they work in dogfight mode, but nowehere else.

Sorry, that's IMO. I love Warhawk - and the only reason I don't have Lair yet, is, the mail was not fast enough (was sent on Friday)- and I had to waste my long weekend on Warhawk (or laying at the pool).

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QuackPot - 836 days 18 hours ago

I did check out youtube gameplay vids, forums and various reviews of killzone and agreed completely with the reviewers that it was an average game - even though I had never purchased or played it.

I decided not to buy this game because of this judgement. However, eventually I did buy it due to the Killzone 2 hype as I needed to see what the problems with the original game were.

Having bought Killzone and played it to the end, my pre-judgement of the game was absolutely correct. It was a average game at best with obvious flaws.

Likewise with Lair, I challenge you to show me any gameplay - GAMEPLAY - which is next gen or just blows your mind. Yes there are some great graphics but just replace all the dragons with fighter planes and you are pretty much left with a typical air combat game - blow up that plane, boat or those troops on the ground.

Yes there a players of the game who say it's not as bad as the reviewers say, generously giving scores of 7-8/10 or saying you have to get use to the controllers or saying the graphics are spectacular. But where are their descriptions of the great gameplay?

Where's the the great gameplay? That's all I'm asking. Show me the gameplay videos like GT5, KZ2, UT3, CoD4, BF:BC, Uncharted, Bioshock, HS, R&C, MGS etc have ALL shown. And I have pre-judged them as being definite hits - games that I've never played by the way. And you're saying I'm wrong to prejudge?

Go figure.

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Ju - 837 days 5 hours ago

It looks everybody started selling since Friday, but the "official" release date is Tuesday (AFAIK).

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Ju - 837 days 5 hours ago

Blazing Angels...yes, that was the reason I bought it. But, the problem with that game is, it is 2nd WW. Means no lock on enemies (how could you justify that with a 2nd world for rigid mounted gun ?). So, it becomes harder in the advanced levels, but is a lot of fun. Eventually I switched back to stick mode, though. Its more precise. A lock on target could have helped a lot for that game. In that case, an exact control scheme wouldn't have been that important. Its really fun to fly the plane with motion on, its just the targeting system didn't work out that well for me.

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