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Gamespot reviews Lair and gives it a 4.5
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You shouldn't play Lair. Not unless you have some morbid interest in experiencing what is quite possibly one of the worst control schemes ever devised. It's a shame because as a cinematic experience, it's stunning to watch. As a game, it's a nightmare and an embarrassment. It sounds like a fantastic idea: You fly around on a dragon, spewing fire and clawing at other reptiles while generally wreaking havoc. Too bad you're forced to use Sixaxis controls that destroy the possibility of fun and replace it with the constant need to scream expletives at your television screen
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toughNAME
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kick him while hes down
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i know lair is a bad game but i think the way gamespot review games are by waiting for ign to review it first then give it a lower score i mean ign reviewed lair first and gave 4.9, is it just me or u guys feel that way too?
bioshock: ign = 9.7, gamespot = 9
lair: ign = 4.9, gamespot = 4.5
warhawk: ign = 8.8, gamespot = 8.5
* ign reviewed all the game before gamespot
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1.4 - um...
You do understand that "shattering the PS3's coffin" would technically be a good thing, assuming it was already in one, right? I think what you meant to say was to "put the final nail in the PS3's coffin" like all your friends say.
It's ok, you'll get it right some day.
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Gamespot just reviews games harder. Its been that way for a long time. They've done it for the halos and the GTA series
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1.6 - @ nasim...
LMAO !!! Hey nasim, your game SUCKS !!!
"You shouldn't play Lair. Not unless you have some morbid interest in experiencing what is quite possibly one of the worst control schemes ever devised."
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ngg12345
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2 - The reason why this review is so low
is the game sucks. Nothing else anymore, egm isn't bias, 1up isn't bias, or anyone else. It jjust sucks.
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MarioFromTexas
- 845 days 14 hours ago
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2.1 - I been reading in forums from people that actually have played the game
and every where you go people say they like it. The whole reveiw was spent on him telling us on how he sucked at the six axis control. I have played games that got 7.5 because of controls that the reveiwers didn't like but I got the hang of it and never thought while playing anything wrong with it. Lair is a hit or miss, especially with PC FPS gamer backgrounds like most reveiwers now. I'm not saying lair is 9/10 but giving a 4.9 because of a control scheme is not very professional and will only lead to developers creating the same game over and over and not trying anything new. Look you have halo the same game coming out every 3 years. I like Sony because there is different types of games and you can always experiance something new and not just rehashs. Hate all you want but games are made to be played even if it's a 4.9, it might be a 10 for you
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- 845 days 11 hours ago
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2.2 - Thats the funny thing...
the game is actually good, im enjoying it a lot, the graphics are out of this world, its like playing a movie, the thing with the controls is that they have a super steep learning curve, its actually challenging to control that damn dragon LOL...why they reviewed the game so low its unknown but the game is actually fun, frustrating but fun...but Ninja Gaiden is also frustrating isnt??
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....how low the scores are for this or how many bad reviews it gets, people will always believe thats it is a AAA title.
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Well obviously u think its great, im guessing ur pretty much hardcore fanboys, how could it not be good? As it is right now I'm thankin Amazon UK for not letting me buy that shiat for 14 £, GS have in my opinion never been wrong and I pretty much base my decision on what they say as our opinions seem to be quite compatible.
Oh Yeah, ninja gaiden can be frustrating, but because its hard to kill difficult and intelligent enemies, not cause the controls suck ass. Dont compare a masterpiece to apparent crap.
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DrWan
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damn, but warhawks control so well, ppl looking to make flight sims have to talk to Incognito!
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4 - Maybe it`s all because of not straight hands? =))
just read a preview on kotaku -
http://kotaku.com/gaming/im...
game is great. =)
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And instead of crashing into the occasional turret, your dragon will sharply cut around objects to save us from potentially tedious gameplay. The effect isn't some cheap way of making the game easier (well, maybe to some extent), but a logical extension of flying on a living being with self-preservation.
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or maybe because you are slow in the head?
Kotaku only played the demo, if you actually read some of the reviews of Lair they would specifically state that you realize about 5 levels into the game how bad the system is, and not the first two levels.
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4.2 - Agree with CrazzyMan
Lair's control system is like learning how to ride a bike. If you quit just because you fell once or twice you will never learn and have fun.
Once you get the hang of it, the game is nothing but awesome.
But of course, most gamers in this site behave like microphones. They just echo what other people say without even trying things themselves.
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TheSadTruth
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you are right, these sites filled with reviewers who play games more than most games because it's their JOB must have no clue how good of a game Lair is despite playing games for a fuc*ing living
did it occur to you they have to play every playstation 3 title that is put on the market and probably have some idea how to use the controller?
I'm trying to be nice here but your idiocy wants me to verbally punish you
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MarioFromTexas
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4.4 - Sad truth you're an idiot
I guess you only play games that got rank 10/10....Just like you have preference this reveiwer have preference as well. Most of these reveiwer come from PC background and now there reviewing console games. Haven't you notice how high score have been for FPS lately and 3rd person scores are lower. I'm not saying their bias but if I was rating a game I'll score a 3rd person action/adventure game higher than a FPS. Controls scheme is how you know what kind of gamer is doing the reveiw.
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theaceh
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4.5 - @TheSadTruth
I was refering to some of the people that visit and post comments on this site, not the people that reviewed the game. The guy that reviewed this game is entitled to his opinion, but what really f***ing pisses me off is when I read a post about some 'gamer' starts behaving like he is part of the BORG race from Star Trek by always borrowing other people's opions about things.
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Free and independant thought (no borg here)
The reason you see so many of us gamers say the same thing is because it is the same problem. I picked this game up within an hour (literally) of it's release and rushed home to play it. After the first few levels, I was pretty confident in my purchase and was glad to have picked up the game. Somewhere in the next few levels though the game just fell apart and I got pretty frustrated. I was as forgiving as I could be, but the controls rob this game of the greatness it could have achieved. I love everything about this game, but the controls are enough to ruin it from me. And this is from a PS3 fanboy.
Besides, you can't log on to a site like this, read comments, and not expect to read peoples' opinions about games. That's the purpose of this site.
I have gotten almost nothing but persecution so far for saying these controls are flawed, but I can't for the life of me understand how anyone who has played this game and made it at least halfway through can argue about how bad they can be at times.
Sorry to interrupt the argument. Just wanted you to know that we haven't all been captured by the borg.
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some ppl just cant control sh^t
But i still think they should release a patch that enables analogue.
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Well sony you really know how to Piss people off. Lair sucks, deal with it.
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Sony didn't make this game, Factor 5 just sucks.
Potentially great cinematic game ruined by poor controller decisions and gameplay judgements.
Edit at 6.2, So it became my console now? Alright....All you PS3 fans out there. I am now your God.
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6.3 - LOL!!!
The funny thing is that these people (specially reviewers) that played factor 5 games like "Rogue Squadron" last-gen probably used to move their controllers the same way you need to move them in Lair, even though all you had to do was move the anolog stick.
LOL!!!!!
Embrace change for once in your lives!
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MarioFromTexas
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6.4 - The only one here that sux is you momma
I hate idiots that haven't played the game and have made up their minds. Wow you mother must be proud to have such a leader. You my friend are a sheep and just follows the sheep in front of you. Play the game and then say something smart about how you don't like it but saying this game sux is like me saying you mother is a slutttt. I haven't met her but she gave birth to you so that means that she is fuking and that makes her a slutttttt. Can I get an amen
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Ugly American
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6.5 - Why, why, why?!
Why would I ever buy this piece of crap game? Why would I blow 60 dollars on a game that got lower reviews than Barbie Wild Horse Rescue?!
Seriously, with the amount of games out these days and the fact that they cost $60 a pop, why would I buy a game that has a 4.5 and 4.9 for reviews? Why wouldn't I spend that money on Warhawk or Bioshock?
Think about it before telling people to go waste their hard earned money on something that is awful. That is what reviews are for!
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is a dissappointment. Every review has been cr@p. Funny thing is that Factor Five said this game couldn't be done on the 360.
Because of the extensive use of the Cell + Bluray. 4 Gig levels.
LOL..
"Next gen gaming doesn't start until we say it does"
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gsx-r
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7.1 - You trip me out man...
you post some decent articles or responses, but then you troll so many PS3 threads and look like a douchebag..
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toughNAME
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hes just pointing out the facts
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Yah, it couldn't be done in the sense that it is really graphically impressive game and uses BD.
But ppl who are dissing it due to the control or whatever though, still give it a rent. This game if you control it well (takes like 20 minutes to do well), its not bad at all. The story is actually really nice, religious conflicts and morale, it's meant for more matured audience who pays attention to worldly news, there is directly comparison of many contemporary issues.
Graphics, Sound, Story is excellent in this game, Control is hard but not impossible, really, it works. Gameplay is ok too, repetitive at times, but its a flight sim, i dont remember doing anymore than Lair in Ace combat series, which receives high scores everywhere. I think there is more mission variations than Ace combat.
I dont know why ppl are nailing this game base on a control scheme they don't want to invest 20 minutes to learn and master. This is NOT as bad as Red Steel control, and yet consistently gets score lower than that due to the "hype". I think the scores are unfair if you compare all the other games that has received a 4.5 on gamespot and look at them side by side. Lair is much funner than the other 4.5's
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how is he pointing out facts? What fact was he pointing out? He's implying that the game can be done on the 360, which it cant.
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"You shouldn't play Lair. Not unless you have some morbid interest in experiencing what is quite possibly one of the worst control schemes ever devised."
He's pretty blunt isn't he... x)
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Let me add:
I'm a PS3 fan, I've rented the game, played it tonight after my classes were over.
The game gives you the impression it's good. The more you play, the more it starts to suck, and then by the end, you cuss the game out. To quote the Angry Nintendo Nerd: The game is fundamentally a sh*t load of f*ck.
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the controls had a bit of a learning curve, but they didnt suck, the frame rate does get choppy, but it doesn't bother, some people just suck at controlling it, kids these days, its a 7 in my book
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This is looking to be to be Two Worlds for PS3...
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Two Worlds got a 2 because it got everything wrong. Lair has had mixed reviews because the controls take a bit to get used to.
Stop trolling.
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11.2 - No you stop trolling
Two Worlds is a decent game, and Lair probably is too...although both are niche titles. Two Worlds has had mixed reviews too, stop spewing hatred.
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Sorry, i wasn't intending to be a "Troll"
Two Worlds was hyped as one of the big exclusives for 360 right? (Maybe not as much as Lair but you get my point) and like Two Worlds, this game has gotten mixed reviews but when you look at it, it's a disappointment. Not a bad game, just not as "Killer Ap" as they were hyping it.
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11.4 - Jay, the comment I made was not towards you...
However, I don't really recall anybody saying this game was a AAA 'Killer App.'
In my opinion it wasn't even a disappointment, except for the ending, and I enjoyed, in fact I'm still not done playing and probably won't be done until Halo 3 comes out.
But yeah that comment was not intended for you.
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oh well, lair sucks, other games are better anyhow
Warhawk, Heavenly Sword :D
play those instead, but I'm still gonna rent lair I want to see how bad the controls are xD
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pretty sad.
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if once people get better with using the sixaxis, the gameplay may not be as bad as initially reviewed
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I personally don't get it. I've tried the Wii on a few occasions and the accuracy was something only a casual gamer could put up with. Yet Wii reviews never take the controls into consideration to the degree Lair reviews have. I don't even like Lair, but I like critics a lot less.
I don't know why reviewers lately have double standards depending on what console they are reviewing. Sometimes it seems like they forget that they are reviewing the game.
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ummm, because the sixaxis on the ps3 is a halfbaked attempt to copy the wiimote controls. the wii mote just controls better.
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...I like it. Everyone's like "Oh, the controls! OHHHHHH! OHHHHHHHHH!" but I was able to get the swing of things in no time. When you tilt the controller right, the dragon goes right. And vice versa. I've never had the dragon do otherwise once, so I can't see why everyone says the controls are horrible. And the camera's fine as well. You have complete control over it with the analog sticks, so it just requires a little managing. A 9/10 this game is not, but it's certainly not a 4.5, either. I'd say it's in the 7.5 range, give or take some.
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