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Killzone Engine info at UK Conference

Between July 24th~26th, the Develop Conference in Brighton, England will be host to many events, one of which involves a detailed explanation of how Guerrilla Games pulled off its innovative, custom-built rendering engine for Killzone, an upcoming Playstation 3 title that has garnered wide-spread attention.

Rather than using traditional Forward Rendering, Guerrilla has opted to use Deferred Rendering and tackled the obstacles that such rendering brings to the table. For reasons why the team has chosen this unconventional rendering technique, follow the link...

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Violater - 929 days 6 hours ago

1 - Warning!

population reaching critical mass, please read and follow the warnings before posting.

No matter how well this game looks or plays it will still be a failure to people who want it to fail. It's sad really.

@ cuppa yes I'm glad you did the honorable thing and out yourself, admission is the first step to recovery.

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nice_cuppa - 929 days 6 hours ago

2 - what a load.

trolley trolly troll.

troll troll troll troll.

trolly troll troll.

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Fart_Bubbles - 929 days 4 hours ago

2.1 - says the idiot

posting like a 5 year old, it's really funny to watch xbots get their wittle feewings hurt everytime more of the Ps3's power is revealed.

Hey you can all enjoy your 2d xbox live and glitchparade called gears while we enjoy true next gen gaming and a 3d online interface.

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TnS - 929 days 5 hours ago

3.1 -

This news is not about E3...

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beast - 929 days 6 hours ago

4 - E3 July 11

Cant wait..

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power of Green - 929 days 5 hours ago

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WTF are they boasting now?.

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Odion - 929 days 5 hours ago

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lol is anyone else not impressed anymore by those graphics lol i watched it again and i was like dam thats not as cool as i remember it being.

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fenderputty - 929 days 5 hours ago

7 - I can't wait to see what they offer up at E3

This game sounds like it's going to look amazing. I know most of it is hype but, I still have this feeling that the game will be great.

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Dr Pepper - 929 days 5 hours ago

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It had better be a great game. If it's not, I can only imagine the reaction of all the fans (and people on this site).

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kingboy - 929 days 5 hours ago

8 - it`s was realtime ..realtime ..!!!

Monday is almost here,hope we get that big announcement/showing from Sony

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ilovepswii60 - 929 days 5 hours ago

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ive got a feeling this game will be AAA. and a major PS3 seller as it will be advertised lyk crazy

PS: I need bubbles

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Fart_Bubbles - 929 days 4 hours ago

9.1 - bubble for you mister

it's really a shame the way xbots abuse the feedback system with anyone that voices support for the PS3, but hey when you have xbox 1.5 that is going to be destroyed by the PS3 in two years time I guess you have to scratch and claw with all your nails.

po wittle xbots and their underpowered console.

sony was being kind when they said xbox 1.5, for me it's more like 1.1

anyone that played splinter cell chaos theory on the original xbox on a component input can tell you that the 360 does not look that much better than what they were already achieving on xbox 1. I actually liked the first xbox since it was the most powerful console of its generation.

this time around that title goes to sony and xbots just can't handle the truth.

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DrunKao - 929 days ago

9.2 -

"po wittle xbots and their underpowered console.

sony was being kind when they said xbox 1.5, for me it's more like 1.1"

And you wonder why you only have 3 bubbles when you make immature comments like that? You have the nerve to call it an Xbox 1.5 when it has GTA IV, which will possibly be one of the most defining games of this generation?!

You liked the Xbox 1 simply because it was the most powerful console last generation? Don't you think that's a bit shallow? The games are what should matter most, not which system has the highest peak performance, the most floating points, or the best graphics.

And graphics aren't what makes a game good. Just as dazzling visual effects don't make a film good.

Edit: I just lost a bubble after I made this comment. lol :/

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Rims - 929 days 5 hours ago

10 - PS3 fans rejoice

We have some hype. :D

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tehcellownu - 929 days 5 hours ago

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i cant wait for e3 in one month!!!! i hope sony announce rumble back and a few new games..and show others!! cant wait

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VirtualGamer - 929 days 5 hours ago

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Be interesting to see the results they get using this approach. I would think it has paid off splendedly for them and I look forward to seeing the results at E3.

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ch_ymh - 929 days 5 hours ago

13 - Cool Killzone2

I can't wait for the E3 and this conference's information about Killzone2 ><

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SimmoUK - 929 days 5 hours ago

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This is very ambitious from Guerilla and it's going to have fantastic results, there going to use the cell for culling, basically they have the processing power to use this technique and have no slow down, before this technique has generated amazing graphics and detail but not run smoothly enough, killzone 2 is going to look fantastic...

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Bonsai1214 - 929 days 4 hours ago

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whats culling

edit: ahh.. wikipedia ftw. but i would think running that equation constantly would take up almost as much processing power as displaying the graphic though (well, it would strain cpu, not gpu)

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Fart_Bubbles - 929 days 4 hours ago

14.2 - think again

I've personally done the math on the amount of throughput the SPU's can handle, and it is absolutely staggering. The Cell is an absolute processing beast. People like Bloodwhateverhisname is who keep talking about the Cell not being designed for gaming are truly a sad spectacle.

I actually found a way that I can with him.

the cell processor is not designed for or good at the microsoft windows gaming model.

x86 architecture, buh bye it was nice knowing ya because you supported the gaming industry for many years but now its time for the new star athlete on the team to take us to the championship.

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DJ - 929 days 4 hours ago

15 - This really caught my attention.

"We’ll show how we utilize PS3’s SPUs for fast rendering of a large set of primitives, parallel processing of geometry and computation of indirect lighting."

The fact that they're doing massive amounts of lighting and vertex processing on the SPUs is absolutely impressive since it pretty much lets RSX focus on what it's good at. It also makes me wonder what kind of crazy polygon-counts were going to be seeing, in addition to real-time volumetrics (a la Lair and Warhawk)

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ch_ymh - 929 days 4 hours ago

15.1 - It's true

real-time volumetrics maybe the important stuff in the coming games. Although i don't have the chance to play Warhawk beta, LAIR impressed me so much. Warhawk,LAIR and Killzone2 are "MUST" for me @@

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Bordello1900 - 929 days 4 hours ago

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@Odion

Crawl back under your rock. Have you seen Halo 3 or Forza 2 gfx? Those games are good games, but don't have very impressive gfx.

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Odion - 929 days 3 hours ago

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dude shut up i was expressing my opinion, from other games I've seen coming out Killzone 2 is no longer for me something that seems impossible to do.

Stop being a fanboy aka an a$$

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snoop_dizzle - 929 days 4 hours ago

17 - i really hope its good

the more high rated shooter i get to play the happier i am.

I have a feeling the in game graphics are really good, but i just hope it plays well.

I am going to have one fun year with all these great games. :)

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Diselage - 929 days 4 hours ago

18 - Better come through

Killzone 2 better deliver after that CG they showed last year or else there are going to be a lot of upset people.

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Apocalypse Shadow - 929 days 4 hours ago

19 - sounds interesting.

obviously sony and guerilla spent money using this rare technique to not only up the graphics level using rsx,but the lighting and anti-aliasing using Cell.other games look great with smaller teams.but 120 devs and over 20 million must be telling in some way.

i think they are preparing to show how they achieved the level of graphics and the speed at which the spes can handle it after they show killzone at E3.somehow i'm guessing 1080p at 30fps.but i could be wrong.but if they achieve 60fps in speed and have 1080p with all the possible things going on,then wow!it would even give an indication on what GT5 is going to look like.if gt4 looks that good on ps2 with upscaling and smoothing in 1080p,GT5 should be ridiculous because that's another flagship title.

and they mention that other parties can use it for not just ps3,but maybe other platforms.even 360 could benefit from what may be shown.

could E3 get here any sooner?

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UrbanJabroni - 928 days 21 hours ago

19.1 - over 20 million must be telling in some way.

Yes, it is telling that it is a next-gen game. I have no idea why this number is hyped, as it is actually MUCH lower than many first-round next-gen games at most of the major publishers.

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zonetrooper5 - 929 days 3 hours ago

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I'm looking forward to Killzone 2 as well as Halo 3. I just hope that they nail the gameplay for Killzone 2 or it won't be as fun as it should be. Halo 3 has the gameplay nailed down, it just need some polished graphics.

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Satanas - 929 days 3 hours ago

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I agree. The way it seems, both games can learn from each other.

If there was a hybrid of both games, it'd probably be the best FPS on the face of the earth.

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Fat Onion - 929 days 3 hours ago

21 - WOW!!!

With a $40 MILLION dollar budget they better deliver. I don't even think Halo 3 has even half that budget.

In order to make a profit they will have to sell at least 2 million copies of this game. It better be good!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

http://arstechnica.com/news...

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funkysolo - 929 days 3 hours ago

22 - If the Killzone trailer turn out to be real gameplay, What a gem

That trailer almost makes you feel like you're in a action film, Man those explosions are insane best so far I seen in a game. If that turns out to be real gameplay, crisis couldn't even touch this game.

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power of Green - 929 days 3 hours ago

23 - #9.1

Is that what dem Xbots do. Hmmm...

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drtysouf21 - 929 days 3 hours ago

24 - I hope this turns out good

too. It'll be good to see how far they have come along.

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jwatt - 929 days 3 hours ago

25 - I want to see...

Pretty detailed characters, enviroments and explosions. The AI and physics has to be realistic. I think with the budget they got, they can do it... I hope.

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popup - 929 days 3 hours ago

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I still do not personally believe this will deliver what we all want just yet. It is a good start and is being designed with a PS3 way of thinking rather than a PC.

Building blocks is what it's all about at the moment. The good stuff will take a lot longer still but we can wait.

Afterall lets face it, the vast majority of people still have PS2's out there ffs.

(and good ole Forza 2 for me at the mo)

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StateofMind - 929 days 2 hours ago

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I highly doubt it will match the trailer, and unfortunately that's all that matters to most people. I think the game will be amazing though.

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Apocalypse Shadow - 929 days 2 hours ago

28 - popup

the thing i'm thinking is

if sony shows a game that surpasses that trailer,it's a done deal.people will get ps3.gamers will get ps3.360 fans will get ps3.it's would pretty much be "cg in real time."

not one mag,podcast,website,fanboy,or any analyst would have anything to say.they might try saying something like how it cost so much money and man power.but the results would pull in more animators,more artist,more programmers into making games instead of making just big budget hollywood films.

it would end the debate of how powerful the ps3 is.how programming with pc mentality will only get you so far in graphics.how learning a new way of doing things is what we all live for.

in order to achieve the e305 trailer,you need speed.also a new way of programming.or all we are going to get is just the same games with prettier graphics.

i saw lair in high definition.and i must say the amount of things onscreen is ridiculous.can't wait for E3.somehow i doubt june 11 will result in any new surprises.but we'll see.

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jwatt - 929 days 2 hours ago

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Sony all ready showed a demo for killzone behind closed doors and all the people that saw it agreed that the game wasn't identical to the trailer but they said the demo did look good though.

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Grown Folks Talk - 929 days 2 hours ago

29 - i haven't seen anything on the PS3 yet

that leads me to believe they can achieve those graphics during gameplay. at least not anytime soon. but who knows, maybe they'll pull it off. the other question is, will it actually be fun to play? gears looked great, but as soon as R6:V hit, i didn't touch it anymore.

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Maldread - 928 days 17 hours ago

29.1 - Grown Folks Talk

Yeah i think so too, and people who believe they will exceed the trailer have unrealistic expectations if you ask me. They will however, probably have a great looking game for us to see.

And as you said, it`s the gameplay is what should be the most important, even though we`ll most likely have to wait for the Beta to get a better understanding of that.

Either way, i think almost everyone wants to finally see in-game footage, so E3 should be very interesting this year ;)

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Odion - 929 days 2 hours ago

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Killzone 1

Gamespy- Terrible AI on both sides; tons of graphical glitches; lack of physics; repetitive gameplay. 3/5

IGN- Here's where it gets sticky. The AI is terrible and the scripted combat isn't very exhilarating. But then it looks and sounds so good it's often possible to get lost in the war. 7.5/10

Gamespot- Bland single-player gameplay.; weapons don't have the best feel.; tons of annoying graphics and sound problems.; anticlimactic ending 6.9/10

Eurogamer- It was inevitable that at some stage Sony would recognise the hit potential of releasing a first-person shooter to take on the might of Halo - the surprise is that it's taken fully four years of the PS2's lifespan for a first party candidate to emerge. But let's not beat around the bush here: Killzone doesn't hold a candle to any of the FPS greats despite the bewildering level of hype heaped upon it in the run up to its release. Sure, it looks great in the screenshots, but just wait until you play it. You'll soon have all the evidence you need to come to the rapid conclusion that Guerrilla's efforts occasionally crawl out of the war-torn mire, only to get crushed under the rubble of their own failings.

5/10

Now please tell me agian why your hyped for this game?

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DJ - 929 days 2 hours ago

30.1 - Just play the title and judge it for yourself.

The respectable members of this site do not need additional negative review posts as 'proof' that the sequel to a title is going to fail, especially for a title that is not only a blast to play but has built up a pretty significant cult status. Killzone is only $20 (less if used) so grab a copy, pop it into your Playstation, and see what all the fuss is about.

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VirtualGamer - 929 days 1 hour ago

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If the past always equaled the future then your post might be relevant.

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Grown Folks Talk - 929 days 1 hour ago

30.3 - 1 thing's for sure

it will be better than hour of victory. that game is hot garbage with maggots on it.

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GeneYus - 929 days ago

30.4 - why dont you...

Show off the reviews of their more recent title, Killzone Liberation. Solid 9's. They have the talent to make great games so shut up with the Killzone 1 bashing. First tries arent always perfectly realised. They know what they need to do to make Killzone 2 a great game. Killzone Liberation is quite honestly one of the best PSP games ever. I honestly think what they did on that system speaks volumes about their ability to exploit hardware to its fullest potential. If you wanna keep bringing up Killzone 1 like every other Sony hater, be my guest. I know that liberation is a different format, (isometric) but it still shows off their abilities to make great games and since it is a more recent effort on their part, I think its more logical for people to base their hype on that title rather than the first. Then again I could be completely wrong...

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Babylonian - 928 days 15 hours ago

30.5 - Dude....

The first one was pretty good in my opinion. Why, because it was on the PS2. The system was not that powerfull (at least not as powerfull as the Xbox), but still the game showed a lot of potential.

The story was compelling and weapons were really not bad. And at the time that Killzone was released, Guerilla was not aquired by Sony (even though Sony helped them alot on the first one). Now that they are, they have a bigger budget, a lot more resources and a pretty good chance to make this a great game.

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kamakazi - 929 days 1 hour ago

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damn dj where your bubbles going? good feed back for you sir, let the trolls have their fun, most of them fail to see that the main reason GEARS was so great is because of the next gen graphics. yes i have a 360 and im about 600 kills from my seriously achivement. the story mode(if you can call it that) has no story, and it is repetitive, i need one cog tag to get my "for the fallen achivement" but i just cannot sit through the campaing mode( all i need is these two achivements). and lets not talk about glitches here since we know GEARS is still jam packed full of them. all that aside the online portion of GEARS kicks @ss....minus the little kids and their glitches. the trolls in here will always hate KILLZONE, not much one can do about it but sit back and laught at them really.

odion...you have never played KILLZONE since you dont have a review of your own so why again do you care so much about this game......please give me a legit reason to why you are even posting on this article. remember i said legit reason.....go ahead.

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squallsan - 929 days 1 hour ago

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KILLZONE GOES 4 THE KILL

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