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PS.Blog: MAG Beta 4 Starts... Now

Jeremy Dunham on US Playstation.Blog writes:

"I wanted to share some news regarding our latest MAG beta program that we're kicking off right now. Starting today, we've officially moved into our next Beta phase – Beta 4. We've made more than 6,000 changes from our last phase to Beta 4, not the least of which include an increased level cap from 40 to 60, a retooled skill tree and experience curve, and an improved ranking system – all based on the feedback from our diligent testing crew."
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MAG Beta 4 live…Now! MAG Be... - kouppa-networklive.com | By: Kouppa
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Published: 13 days 6 hours ago | News | PlayStation 3
 
 

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komp - 13 days 6 hours ago
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Lets hope they run this for a while for those who are not getting MW2.
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PLAYINB3YOND - 13 days 6 hours ago
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Lost all interest in MAG after I played the first beta, i'll try it now again to see if theres any improvements but i'm not holding my breath.
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skv007 - 13 days 6 hours ago
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private Beta was awesome.. but i wont be preordering to get into the public beta.

Invested alot of time into the private beta.. so gonna let the game cool down for the launch now. Dont want the game to get old on release date coz i played the gmae too much in the beta
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MariusElijah - 13 days 5 hours ago
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"We've made more than 6,000 changes from our last phase"
and none of those changes made it look any better
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cliffbo - 13 days 5 hours ago
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@playin:

i think you have misconstrued what a Beta is for. it's too complain and suggest changes to the devs...
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Donger - 13 days 5 hours ago
1.5 - @ PLAYINB3YOND
Same thing happened to me. Hopefully it improves before the release date.

edit: I know it's a beta also. Bugs aren't the reason for the lack of interest.
With that said, it will be interesing if any of the bugs actually get addressed prior to release.
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Tomonobu Itagaki - 13 days 5 hours ago
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@1.3: Actually wrong. They added a 2xAA and improved lightings, so technically it improved. It still looks garbage, but we can't deny the improvement.
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silverchode - 13 days 5 hours ago
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u own a ps3 dont u
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Walther - 13 days 5 hours ago
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Wow, the Modern Warfare fanboys are out in force!

MAG is obviously scaring you dopes dumb enough to be fans of such a joke FPS to be peeing your panties to make you sit around in MAG stories trolling.
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divideby0 - 13 days 5 hours ago
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Porc. God....

spot on, a little harsh, but I have played every COD game (on the 360)and MP to me is like Halo MP..boring and as you said...

for this day and age to have only 9vs9 and 2 in CoOP is just lol funny and just a sign their engine has to be stepped up to compare with other games...

graphically it looks just like the last COD.

sure the game is popular, but its just not cutting edge, just milk the franchise, like Halo did with ODST...(psst..another COD game announced for next year...lol)
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paul0388 - 13 days 5 hours ago
1.11 - MAG...
The second I heard of the beta I rushed to gamestop to put $5 down on it. I have never been so underwhelmed with a game in my life... I'm trying it tonight, hopefully it got better, but it just seems like a CoD wannabe. The entire thing is a complete clusterf#ck, and it really needs regenerating health - and I'm usually an opponent of regenerative health.
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locos85 - 13 days 4 hours ago
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I think this game is a disappointment. I was upset when I tried the beta. with 2 months till release I don't expect it to change much. I canceled my preorder.
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ikkokucrisis - 13 days 4 hours ago
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Did they increase the window of time that the beta can be played? my work hours always overlap over this time! so junk

From my limited time playing I thought the game was just okay. My biggest gripe about the game is that I really wish there were more variations in color to this game, because it's really hard to distinguish friend from foe at times.
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Raf1k1 - 13 days 4 hours ago
1.14 - MariusElijah
'none of those changes made it look any better'.

The scale of this game makes it difficult to have amazing graphics. The fact that they manage to have it looking the way it does with 256 players is pretty impressive as it is.
Compare that to MW2 with it's 9v9 multiplayer or any other online shooter like a Battlefield game which supports up to 32v32.
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mugoldeneagle03 - 13 days 3 hours ago
1.15 - Why the MAG hate?
I'm guessing most of you didn't play it with a group of friends, which completely ruins the experience IMO. MAG is a tactical FPS, just as tactical as SOCOM (no surprise coming from Zipper) and that's what makes it so good. My clan members and I had a steady group of probably 6-7, so almost a full squad, and it was fun as hell.

So for all of the doubters or past beta members who gave up on the game, if you do happen to get into this next wave, play it with friends. It makes the experience A LOT more fun, trust me.

Can't wait until January.
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Omegasyde - 13 days 3 hours ago
1.16 - Why all the hate?
Sure the graphics are not killzone quality, and COd barely beats in the graphics departments. "But" I don't see a game yet where the battlefields are that huge with that many players on a console.

Seriously, there is air strikes, Jet strafing runs, Armored troop Carriers blasting, artillery bombardment, poisonous gas shelling, and troops parachuting from the sky...

All happening at once. Reminds me of The Flight of the Valkyries scene from Apocalypse Now.

The beginners difficulty curve for the game is very severe and you will most likely die alot more than you kill. The game has everything going for it, and I have had only 1 lag complaint. The community so far has been great and alot of Socom, Resistance 2 and Cod4 vets are playing.
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The unlocking system is 10 times more rewarding than Cod4/5/6 and the bonus system keeps the game balanced. The game is more for the hard core team work centric people, due to the weapon damage being extremely high ( 2-3 direct shots) and rambo-centric players will just keep dieing. Rocket launchers are even balanced since it takes a while to reload with limited ammo.

If you enjoyed the killzone 2/ team fortress 2 / or any other class based shooter this is definitely for you. And once you become a veteran of the game and earn leadership points, you have the hand of god with air strikes etc. Also the community has helped alot of new players("follow me if you want to live"), in which the clan system/party is excellent as well (works just like Cod party system). Its all about team work and working towards a series of objectives. Team Death match is dated.

Honestly I am going to buy Cod6 and still play the beta. Once late January comes around, Cod6 will be sold for MAG.

/Review
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PS3GamerFix - 13 days 6 hours ago
2 - done with MAG
MAG is cool but not for me... done with this Beta. This game is trying to do too much and will end up suffering a lot because of it.
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Panthers - 13 days 4 hours ago
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MAG never impressed me. I might give it a try come release, but I am waiting for the Socom DLC. Socom is the only online shooter that has ever kept my interest.

That being said, I am pretty sure I will get Battlefield BC2. The trailers just keep impressing me. I am completely avoiding MW2. Nothing about that game looks remotely fun.
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Shendow - 13 days 6 hours ago
3 - Wow
More hate on a game that is really good.
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locos85 - 13 days 4 hours ago
3.2 - ^^
No, game just plain sucks. Simple as that.
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Raf1k1 - 13 days 4 hours ago
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Plenty of people seem to love MAG so I won't know until I've played it for myself.

I think if anyone wants to tell others its amazing or that it sucks they should also state why they think so. Loco85, it would be nice to read about your experiences with the game rather than a simple 'game just plain sucks'.
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QuackPot - 13 days 6 hours ago
4 - Warhawk 2 56
MAG just needed to be a FPS Warkhawk with modern weapons(including a huge range of small arms, artillery, MLRS, boats, transports, parachutes, UAV, Jets, copters, tanks) and with 256 players. It's closest rival would be BC2 with 24 players.

It could have been completed by now and would likely end up being the king of MP shooters. I mean, Warhawk is easily a better MP experience than MW, BC and even Halo - just doesn't look as good as those games or have all the fancy bells and whistles.

But as it is at the moment, it should be at least as good as MW2 but just not look as good.

Just hope they bring in usable tanks, jeeps and copters in future updates or MAG2.
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Panthers - 13 days 4 hours ago
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A game this big should have all of those things. But I lost faith in Zipper after Socom 3 came out. Hopefully they redeem themselves.
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NecrumSlavery - 13 days 4 hours ago
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Killzone 2 has 32 online and R2 has 64.

I think the game play is fast paced and fun.

MAG is definitely a great game, beta is just smoothing the greatness.
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QuackPot - 13 days 4 hours ago
4.3 - @NecrumSlavery
They do indeed but don't have fully usable vehicles like BC and Warhawk.

They should have and would have been alot better games.
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Omegasyde - 13 days 3 hours ago
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The vehicles for MAG work and as long as Zipper doesn't F" up again and add a tank like they did in Socom 3.
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NecrumSlavery - 13 days 1 hour ago
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oh I see your point. Well hope KZ3 has vehicles.

but still MAG is pretty damn cool
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D3acon - 13 days 6 hours ago
5 - screw mag
I had the credentials of being in Gap and beta testing almost everything that came out for the ps3(anything good) Home, socom Confrontation, Resistance 2, etc...

After Socom I really really wanted to be in the beta, I received the email asking to be in it, filed it out correctly. And then watched as almost everyone on my friends list and their mama get into the beta. The thing is that I was really excited to test a very new game and give feedback and I Couldn't even win the beta code from the million or so contests. There was a person giving one out 50/50 chance with me another guy and still no code. Now modern warfare is out and battlefield will be around the corner by the time I start getting bored so Mag is a wash for me.
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locos85 - 13 days 4 hours ago
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It's ok you didn't miss much. I'm upset I didn't sell my code.
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naughty57 - 13 days 6 hours ago
6 - Here we go!
I'm in
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tdrules - 13 days 5 hours ago
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if only the update system wasnt so shockingly bad I would have bothered reinstalling MAG on my new PS3
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monkey602 - 13 days 5 hours ago
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Yep. Took me a week to download the latest update. Not in one constant stream but the updating took so much bandwidth that Me or the rest of my family couldn't use anything else online while it was downloading. Plus what time I did have to play games I didnt want to sit staring at an update screen without even so much as the ability to access the XMB
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Feral Gamer - 13 days 5 hours ago
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6000 changes? Were there that many problems with it?

@ below:
But 6000? That's a huge number. You'd think that with the number of online shooters they'd already implement most of the best parts of them.
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VictorSullivan - 13 days 5 hours ago
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It's called a beta for a reason.
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LuvBurger - 13 days 5 hours ago
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True, but this is the first of its kind for an online console shooter. At least they are giving us the opportunity to give our input to corect these bugs.

But 6000 does seem like quite a bit. Well, I gave Gamestop my 5 bucks for this go-around, so I'll get a chance to see what the fixes are.

Not that I was any good for the previous 3 versions to begin with
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Noctis Aftermath - 13 days 5 hours ago
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6000 might be the number of things changed, but the majority of those are minor changes, as vic said it is beta for a reason, that reason being they want to test and change the game based on user feedback.

I guess console only users find the concept of a beta hard to wrap their minds around.
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PirateThom - 13 days 4 hours ago
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Noctis - "beta" to a lot of people means "demo", and that's how a lot of companies bill their "demos". It's kind of annoying when there's a "beta" but nowhere to leave feedback on it.

I'll never get people who complain about beta games though.
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QuackPot - 13 days 4 hours ago
8.5 - Fix #6001
Triple the +XP text size to better resemble MW2.

Damn, you can't miss those kills.
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Omegasyde - 13 days 3 hours ago
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I think the biggest change for the next patch is the Proximity chat ala like Socom Confrontation.

Luckily the game players are mature and don't T-bag and talk smack at the same time.
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lh_swe - 13 days 5 hours ago
9 - I want to try it!
I have been hearing such mixed opinions I don't know what to expect.
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Noctis Aftermath - 13 days 5 hours ago
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I'd hold off on judging the game till its about to release, you will find alot more info, and the game will be finished, as of now it's incomplete.
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lh_swe - 13 days 5 hours ago
9.2 - Yeah but I have heard all from avoid it at all costs to it's the best FPS to date
Which is vey confusing.

But yes I will reserve my final thought, something which I usually do.
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raztad - 13 days 5 hours ago
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@^^^^^^

It's a matter of preferences I guess. You will need to try by yourself.
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QuackPot - 13 days 4 hours ago
9.4 - Watch beta footage on YouTube
You get a good idea of how the game is progressing.

It's looking very solid.

Just annoyed that you can use a MICV but not a Jeep or tank. Would be so much fun on the large maps with your sqad in two jeeps with .5 cals, heading off to battle and stumbling across a M1 Abrams on the prowl. Flee my pretties, flee...
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mrfastback - 13 days 4 hours ago
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it's not for every one that's for sure . it is a total team effort or you will not have a good time , some ass clown that doesn't have a clue can make things interesting. but with the right team it is hard to find a better multi player exp.
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lh_swe - 12 days 15 hours ago
9.6 - @mrfastback
You sound like you have played it.

Does the multiplayer feel as smooth and refined as say Killzone 2, COD etc?
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rob6021 - 13 days 5 hours ago
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That sucks i was in the earlier beta, now i can't play when it's open 24/7.. At first I thought it was trash, but after they patched it some and i understood the game mechanics better, I found out it's quite fun - lots of communication happening. Pretty good game, probably not going to be AAA, but it succeeds at pulling off something original, there's nothing out there exactly like it. A shining example of gameplay>graphics.

It doesn't have the graphics of MW2 or BFBC2, but never the less the graphics are solid, and good enough, there's no frame rate drops or anything.

Thing is I want to pre order off amazon instead for the home apartment.
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PHiSHLoC - 13 days 5 hours ago
11 - Sorry guys
But this game is trash I had the beta deleted it cause it sucks major @ss.
I love socom just wish they would give me new maps for that instead. The grphx suck really bad and the guns have no recoil I can shoot some from a mile away and hit them, and all the bullets go exactly where the reticle is no spread or nothing... Sorry but killzone ruined this game for me NO MORE FLOATY WEAPONS. Just my 2cents
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