GT5 needs two things that GT5P didn't have...

dreamcast - 54 days 15 hours ago

I read an IGN preview that said there would be a damage system where the more you damaged your car, the harder it was to drive.

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z-hayden - 54 days 15 hours ago

^^
ya i read the same thing

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droid and bot - 54 days 15 hours ago

damage and roll over is confirmed
http://us.gran-turismo.com/...

destructoid.com is just downplaying GT5
i mean look at this

"Looks like "Burnout 3: Takedown" from years ago Right?"

WTF ??

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AKNAA - 54 days 15 hours ago

Grid had a very good damage system... maybe to good, cause when it came down to winning, you would have to get to the finish line with a flawless vehicle...
So if for example I crashed twice within the first lap, I pretty much didn't see the point of continuing which brought me to the point of no longer wanting to play the game after a while, lol!
yeah, the damage system pissed me off so F$#kin' much!
Thats why I'm hoping GT5 doesn't go to that extreme.
BTW, movable objects within the track, awesome!

Just look at this!!! I could care less if GT5 had damage!

http://www.gamersyde.com/st...

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memots - 54 days 15 hours ago

Wow dude i have been reading this whole loads of crap lately about F3 this, and F3 that, then Gt this, and GT that.

After viewing a lot of video floating around N4G and i even watched some comparison (posted earlier today).

This VIDEO - > http://www.gamersyde.com/st...

This video told me right there that Gt5 is the ONE. Its not even close people.

Any one who still have any doubt need to watch the video above !! wow

Thanks AKNAA for the link

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droid and bot - 54 days 14 hours ago

to me
GT is the king in all aspects after this video

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

and yes this is in game
NOT CGI
as all the xbox fan boys claim

i mean i never saw this in forza
so much for those 100,000,000 polygon for each car

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LiL T - 54 days 14 hours ago

Half a Turn studios & Fortza = The DEFINITIVE online sticker editor.

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AKNAA - 54 days 14 hours ago

No problem bro, I just got tired of everyone comparing Forza 3 to the GT5:p demo.. I mean wft?! compare F3 to a more updated GT5 at least so That it will end all debate of which is better.

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beardpapa - 54 days 13 hours ago

All those vids and pictures are from cgi because they look too real and if it were on the 360, it'd be CGI too. And GT5's physics suck because it's like GT5p. And GT5p's physics is like GT4 all over again. I would know because I'm not a fanbot, I owned a PS2 before and played GT1, 2, 3, 4, and GT5p. The physics is exactly the same as GT1 even! That's what my goggles tell me. Oh yea! And GT5's physics gonna suck so bad because the cars can't roll over and prop themselves back up slowly like magic cars! yea! And the hill textures don't magically pop up!

/sarcasm

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mega BIG time - 54 days 12 hours ago

Why feel the need to dis forza 3 in a pro ps3/gt5 article? Are you that insecure? How come I can own a ps3 and not be a fanboy? You should probably learn a lesson from me and chill out.

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callahan09 - 54 days 10 hours ago

@ beardpanda:

I disagreed because about half-way through your wall of sarcasm I decided that I wasn't possibly going to agree with anything else you could say and wasn't even going to read it. But then after I clicked disagree, I saw the "sarcasm" tag at the end. So, uh, my apologies. I just assumed you really didn't have your facts straight and were spewing garbage.

Anyway, about the article, these guys claim they want a realistic damage system, in then they go on to say they want it to be impossible to total your car so that it is impossible to finish a race. What? That's a contradiction. You can either have realistic damage, or you don't have it... limiting damages so that you can't total your car is NOT realistic damage.

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Chubear - 54 days 9 hours ago

Trying to latch Forza onto GT to make it seem like a legit competitor. Just like it's been done with so many PS3 exclusives

Pure: Latch it onto Motorstorm
Prototype: Latch it onto Infamous
Splinter Cell: Latch it onto Uncharted
Forza: Latch it onto GT

GT is miles ahead of Forza. It's a joke to even try to compare these two games. GT surpasses Forza in lap over lap in every single department. The whole damage argument has fallen flat on it's face now that we've seen Forza's damage is totally lame and crap compared to what GT5 is presenting.

All gaming sites like this one are trying to do is force the notion that Forza and GT are similar and it's only a matter of taste when in fact Forza pales massively compared to GT. GT is a car enthusiast racing sim game while Forza is just a racing video game.

Watch, NA gaming sites will bath Forza in 9s & 9.5s and when GT launches 6months after totally decimating Forza in every single department they'll give it a .1 better rating than Forza. The gaming media have turned into ad$ whores. It's disgusting and have to be an absolute fool to use these sites for info on your gaming experiences. Sure use them for their other features like forums or vid interviews etc but to give you accurate info on games via reviews? You'd be a fool indeed.

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randomwiz - 54 days 7 hours ago

both his points were confirmed to be in GT5

damage affects driving:
http://ps3.qj.net/Video-Cra...
"la voiture commence à tirer à droite."
"j'ai une grosse perte de puissance."
basically translates to the car starts to shoot straight, and he starts losing power.

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Chubear - 54 days 9 hours ago

How the hell can you be great with Forza's damage but turn your nose up at GT's when it's way way more advanced than Forza's. This is MS's push for Christmas. They need this one bad and are doing there PR work hard.

NA editorial gaming sites are in the bag and bought on this one.

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beardpapa - 54 days 13 hours ago

It's easier for developers to get the go-ahead to do full scale damage/deformation up to the car being totaled in rally cars and Nascar. I assume because we see them damaged up so badly on television that it's easier to procure the right to do damage rightfully done. Street cars on the other hand probably prove more difficult for developers to get the okay for realistic damage.

I'd also assume not many street legal car manufacturers would want a game to realistically represent how their car would damage in actual daily driving. This would explain why many games that do have damage in street cars only allow so much damage to happen - bumpers fall off, scuff marks, paint chips, car performance/handling damage that can't be seen - and not so much that it encroaches onto the driver's safety zone.

If you take that into account, it definitely explains why there aren't many racers out there that represent damage faithfully. However, you can argue that Burnout has really good damage, but again none of the cars in Burnout are real or represent a real-life counterpart. You can also say that some other games allow damage, but take into account these other games typically have customization options. I think that at the point where you customize a car with body parts, livery, or actual aftermarket parts, is the point where manufacturers believe it no longer represents their car realistically when it comes to damages or performance. Kinda like when you install an aftermarket body kit or turbo is when the car manufacturer no longer honors their warranty.

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Chubear - 54 days 9 hours ago

You got it spot on.

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LukaX23 - 54 days 14 hours ago

He had TC, ABS, etc. enabled. Try turning them off and playing the game and tell me this game needs a "physics upgrade".

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droid and bot - 54 days 14 hours ago

i like that one bubble you got

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beardpapa - 54 days 12 hours ago

even though it may be nice, i think Need For Speed already tried that idea.

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Oner - 54 days 8 hours ago

^^^ Misinformed people are misinformed.

YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TUNE CARS IN GT SINCE THE VERY FIRST GAME

Seriously. STFU if you don't know WTF you are talking about. And I sure as hell don't need stickers & a florescent paint job to make my car "faster"...

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Chubear - 54 days 7 hours ago

You have NEVER played a GT game in your life have you.

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Major_Tom - 54 days 17 hours ago

Same goes for Forza.

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Soda Popinsky - 54 days 15 hours ago

You can't win races in Forza by corner bumping the other cars like in GT. Forza is a simulator.

This is what I think they need to add.

1. Fun (the gameplay of GT is extremely stiff and boring)
2. Proper customization (Instead of 120 different Civics, give us one we can customize properly)

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PlayStation X - 54 days 14 hours ago

lmao soda you make me laugh

'forza is a simulator? rewind time lmao real simulator!!11!!

gt5 gameplay is stiff n boring? gt5 is a simulation thats why you think its stiff n boring you dumb fck its realistic.

fcking kids these days =/ thick as sh1t.

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sak500 - 54 days 13 hours ago

@1.3

You must be retarded.. I hv a v8 6.0L car and no way driving it is boring but yeah GT5 makes the car boring. I guess you armchair driving experts know better when all u ride in real life are tricycles.

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Major_Tom - 54 days 13 hours ago

Yeah cuz those car physics in Forza and damage modeling are all so accurate right. http://www.youtube.com/watc... Like for example.

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Oner - 54 days 8 hours ago

Or my favorite Tom ~ http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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Soda Popinsky - 54 days 8 hours ago

GT5:P lets you cheat.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

GT5:P breakdance physics.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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Chubear - 54 days 8 hours ago

That's all you 360fans keep doing. You keep comparing Forza3 to GT4. You all know fully well we haven't seen a current gen Gran Turismo yet but have seen TWO current gen versions of Forza.

I wonder, which you think should be a better quality title? One that's rushed out soon after a rushed out Forza2? or one that's taken it's time to present a proper current gen version of the series?

The 360base are such fools.

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Oner - 54 days 7 hours ago

Is that all you got Soda? Because that sure is weak!

1 shortcut on 1 track on GT5 ***PROLOGUE*** & a non "flippable" car again in GT5 ***PROLOGUE*** when it has already been confirmed that ALL CARS in GT5 have damage AND can flip!

Sources for the uninformed/misinformed -

Damage ~ http://www.gtplanet.net/all...

Roll Over ~ http://www.gtplanet.net/for...

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Major_Tom - 54 days 5 hours ago

When did I say GT5P was better at anything, you're the sore loser who can't come to justice with a game that in the eyes of many is sub-par. At least GT5 is delayed to actually make the game better and yet Forza is being released as is, that in itself is a crime to the fans.

In the current state, both games are broken as hell, except Forza makes it seem like an absolute hilarious mockery of physics and damage.

However atleast PD is going back to the drawing board for the same criticisms that both games are catching flak for. It's a hell of a shame that turn 10 is releasing the game in the shape it's in, it looks like a beta.

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LinuxGuru - 54 days 15 hours ago

Motorstorm damage is purely cosmetic.

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Chubear - 54 days 8 hours ago

So is Forza's so what's your point? ... unless you really believe you can ram into another car head on at 300mph, only have your paint flake off, bumper come off and disappear and still drive away solidly.

... and no, Motorstorm, though being an arcade racer, does have it's damage affect the vehicle a bit and it's even more so in motorstorm2 but it's used relative to the type of racing to keep it fun.

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