Forza 3 - Better than GT5P after all?

IcyJoker187 - 95 days 14 hours ago

lol, No.

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DAVID BRENT - 95 days 14 hours ago

as it still doesnt look as good, but proves how well ps3 graphics hold up years after its release, lets try that the other way round...lets compare a new ps3 game (kz2) to a two year old 360 game..hmmm...halo 3

just goes to show huh

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kalebgray92 - 95 days 14 hours ago

thats sad...

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irish-leprecaun - 95 days 13 hours ago

forza 3 beats a demo!
coming up next; king kong defeats blind chimp!

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DavidMacDougall - 95 days 13 hours ago

Can we add a new rule to the N4G posting rules that says no question marks?

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umair_s51 - 95 days 13 hours ago

Nice spin gamewires

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swift - 95 days 12 hours ago

Forza 3 better than a 2 year old demo...really?? this is astonishing!!!

oh how i wish i hadnt spent all my money on the ps3..

sarcasm...just in case ;)

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Cold 2000 - 95 days 12 hours ago

I'll be getting Forza 3 on the 23rd October 2009.

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HolyOrangeCows - 95 days 12 hours ago

They have to compare it to a 2 year old 'prologue' installment.

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DonCorneo - 95 days 12 hours ago

http://forums.forzamotorspo...

quote: However, what we see during gameplay simply does not meet the expectations created by Turn 10 themselves through countless interviews and screenshots released thus far. We weren't told that the cars "look slightly better than Forza 2 with less aliasing, but the same treadless tires and brakes, and by the way you can't really see into the interiors."

Instead, the statements were always "We have 10x the polygons, 4x the texture resolution, we even modeled c0ckpits and undercarriage for all 400 cars." These exact words seemed to show up in every interview with Dan, John Wendl, and other Turn 10 personnel. Nobody once said "...but you'll have to check them out in photomode for the full effect."

LMAO!!1!

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blind-reaper - 95 days 12 hours ago

but of course Forza 3 totally owns Gran Turismo... Portable.

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FlipMode - 95 days 12 hours ago

Nahhhhh

Forza - http://www.tagames.net/scre...

GT5p - http://www.tagames.net/scre...

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deep - 95 days 11 hours ago

They criticise GT5P's spectators...but there's none in the Forza 3 pic - this is why -> http://i36.tinypic.com/2zz4...

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The Tour Man - 95 days 11 hours ago

You getting the game on that date still doesnt change the fact that they are comparing a nearly two year old game (GT5P) to Forza 3.

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PirateThom - 95 days 11 hours ago

Wow, so, the 10x polygon models they were boasting about aren't even used in game?

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Kain81 - 95 days 11 hours ago

i have the Demo from GTHD and i have GT5P
and i can swear that this Pic is not GT5P, its GTHD

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Lifendz - 95 days 11 hours ago

Seriously?

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MNicholas - 95 days 11 hours ago

Either flanker22 doesnt know what he's talking about or he's works for Turn10. Some pretty elementary "mistakes."

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Carlton Banks - 95 days 11 hours ago

Smoke and mirrors? Nah its just the better looking game.

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NoBias - 95 days 11 hours ago

You just compared a 2009 game to a 2007 one, in which the 2007 game was still selling more than the 2009 one when it came out. From a business standpoint, that's embarrassing as well.

Don't compare Halo 3 to KZ2, that's a win for Halo 3 everytime. Fanboys on this site might disagree but if "all gamers" were on this site, millions of agrees would outnumber the disagrees. Look who has more number of users online. You can laugh at which is better but if not too many people are even playing the game in the first place... What does that say...? Mine is dust collecting right now.

You know, since we're jumping off topic and all...

**Enter annoying SDF**

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FlipMode - 95 days 11 hours ago

"What is *flipmode's* point? That FZA3 pic kills the GT5P one "

Now that's just silly.

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suunyd - 95 days 11 hours ago

Maybe if you stopped to look and read, he was talking about graphics, not sales. I guess that what xbox fans last resort is. Sigh.

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Kain81 - 95 days 11 hours ago

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

this is GTHD

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Darkeyes - 95 days 11 hours ago

Lol.. Saw Forza at my friends house today and must say that GT5:P is better looking off the 2. The car model looks better in GT5P by a mile... Forza has better looking surrounding I might give that, but hey Prologue is a 2 year prior build.. Besides the newer vids of GT5 clearly show that GT5 has improved a lot on the surroundings...

In terms of physics, Forza handles well... But so does Prologue, it's square. The new Physics engine used in GT5 will make things interesting when it lands.. The main complain I have is in the graphics department. There is a lot of Aliasing and low res textures. The car models as I mentioned look better in prologue or may I say 'Realistic'. I don't know, but Forza uses too much color which make the cars look plasticky. GT5P uses a little duller shade which makes it look much more realistic. Thats my opinion. If you are a racing fan, then you have to buy both.. Thats all.

P.S: this vid looks like it's taken from GTHD and not Prologue....

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redsquad - 95 days 11 hours ago

"lets compare a new ps3 game (kz2) to a two year old 360 game..hmmm...halo 3 "

So are you saying HALO 3 was 'unfinished' then (a sentiment I can well understand, by the way)? If not then I haven't a clue what you're blathering about.

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Zack Sawyer - 95 days 11 hours ago

"Maybe if you stopped to look and read, he was talking about graphics, not sales. I guess that what xbox fans last resort is. Sigh."

And no doubt soon enough Sony fans will resort to talking about increased sales of the PS3. Sigh.

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BulletToothtony - 95 days 11 hours ago

there is no spectators in forza 3 because they all went to see the more realistic cars in GT5 ;-)

@nobias...
what's ODST excuse then?

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ultimate920 - 95 days 11 hours ago

Comparing a game that is 2 yrs old wow

No point whatsoever

Compare it to the real contender

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soxfan2005 - 95 days 10 hours ago

@1.2 - "having to compare forza 3 to a 2 year old game is embarrassing for turn 10"

@1.18 - "Forza 3 is being compared to GT5P?
Seriously? "

It's not Turn 10's fault that there is no full version of GT5 to compare it to. Forza 3 can only be compared to what exists.

It's more embarrasing for Sony that 3 installments of the higher rated Forza series will be released before the next GT installment is released.

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tucky - 95 days 10 hours ago

Now, all PS3 fanboys are claiming "they dare comparing forza 3 with a 2 year's old game". Excuses, always excuses. When the previous news came out, claiming that prologue was better, nobody said a word about that.
Definitively, N4G becomes is a kind of forum for PS3 fanboys. Pffff ... I'm really tired.

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redsquad - 95 days 10 hours ago

Actually, they did. I saw plenty of posts from people declaring how amazing it was that a "two year old demo" looked as good as or better than Forza 3.

So take your 'Pfff' and go to bed if you're so tired.

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ReviewsArePolitics - 95 days 10 hours ago

Nobody cares about your delusions

On topic, they are comparing the least important part, and a full game to a demo. How about comparing the cars, the handling and the resolution for a change.

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superaktieboy - 95 days 10 hours ago

surely you must be a microsoft employee that gets paid to do this! LOL you seriously fail! in the pics flipmode posted, you can clearly see that Forza is being raped a 1000 times by GT :/

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cRaZyLeGs 93 - 95 days 10 hours ago

Stupid website causing wars like this. Sad really.

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randomwiz - 95 days 9 hours ago

simple truth, the cars in gt5p look more realistic.

ill give some scenery to the forza 3, but the mountains in the picture in the article look kind of cartoonish. And you never now how different GT5 will be compared to GT5p, because obviously in the previous vids of gt5, the scenery looks much better.

gt5 will be much better than gt5p in every aspect, so wait for the comparisons.

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Dareaver1 - 95 days 9 hours ago

This is the E3 demo build which was built alongside Forza 3 development. Secondly, they are both demo's and don't represent the final product. So stop all the crying. Both games look great and are said to play great.

Can't wait till they come out, well, I'm leaning towards Forza 3. It's gonna be an awesome October for me.

Let's be gamers.... All this senseless bickering is childish and makes our pastime look laughable.

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thereapersson - 95 days 8 hours ago

"As for Gran Turismo, I watched plenty of others wipe out and give up before I played. It looked like people that had never played the series games before sat down and expected arcade racing. As always, Gran Turismo 5 had that realistic acceleration and turning that greatly contrasts to the loose, forgiving controls of other racers (Forza 3 not included, of course). I enjoy the challenge and learning curve, and prefer the rewarding stick-to-your-ribs racing that it provides. Even with that, though, Forza's gameplay was more enjoyable and approachable. It may be a bit more simple than that of GT5, but it still provides ample challenge for white knuckle racing"

So he faults Gran Turismo for being too much of a simulation, and that people can't just pick up and play it without any sort of skill involved?

JOKE SITE F*CKING CONFIRMED. Holy g*ddamn sh*t, Batman....

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ultimolu - 95 days 8 hours ago

Just when I thought journalism reached a new low...this article brings it even lower.

What-the-f*ck. How the hell do you compare a full game that's coming out this year to a game that came out what, last year?

It boggles the mind!

I sense fear.

A LOT OF IT.

And Why Dis, no one cares what you have to say because it's the same old 'Sony fails' argument.

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DeepInterludium - 95 days 8 hours ago

Wonder who the poor Forza fanboy was that wrote that.

That track is 3 years old and still looks better than Forza. 3 year old demo, more definitive than Forza 3.

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Ausbo - 95 days 8 hours ago

look what destructoid said about GT5.

"Driving slow in Gran Turismo is like inviting disappointment. I guess they were hoping you'd always be moving fast enough to not notice the perfectly flat tree and pole textures. Plants and trees on the side of the road look like paper cutouts, and the tree trunks are laughably bad."

Turn 10 studios provided the link. Both games will shine though

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beardpapa - 95 days 7 hours ago

I still don't like where the grass meets the asphalt in Forza 3. That's a big turn off for me IMO. It just doesn't look right, where NFS and GT5p at least makes it look more realistic. And there's something wrong about the picture comparison. The last I recall, Forza 3 also used 2D x-shaped trees.

These guys should use comparison pics from both games when they are both using the same track, car, and when both are not in motion (as in the car being 0 kmph).

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OnlyOnN4G - 95 days 7 hours ago

Seems Forza 3 uses seperate car models for different stages in the game (showroom, rolling up to the start line and ingame), its pretty shocking.

Scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Showroom http://i57.photobucket.com/...

Ingame http://i57.photobucket.com/...

Source of screenshots http://forums.forzamotorspo...

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blindfromthesun - 95 days 7 hours ago

Such is the state of fanboyism. We have to brush off the comparison as meaningless because it hurts our Sony buggered ego.

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Immortal Kaim - 95 days 6 hours ago

You guys are being played like a fiddle...

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Jaces - 95 days 6 hours ago

#1 They only just gave a release date for GT5, so nothing was delayed.

#2 Nothing wrong with taking more time to polish things up on a game, hell I'm sure there are tons of racing games out right now to take up your time till GT5 is released.

#3 If you have nothing to compare Forza with except a GT5 demo, then I suggest you wait till GT5 is out. Otherwise this article is nothing more than flambait trying to show up the competition.

#4 GT has been the biggest selling game franchise on the Playstation...it's going to be huge, no doubt about it.

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AAACE5 - 95 days 5 hours ago

I have played GT5P and the demo for Forza 3 and can honestly say (My personal opinion) that to me Forza 3 is better!

The graphics for GT5P looked good but the game just never really felt like I was actually driving. It was more or less holding down the X button and tapping left or right on the stick several times just to make it around corners.

Forza 3 on the other hand looked good as well and made me feel like I was actually driving. The sense of speed and control was exciting, it almost felt like an arcade game. It just felt more realistic.

I don't care which system you love! You should play both games before you make a judgement on which one is better.

@David Brent... GT5P was pretty much a demo of the final product, so the end result might not be too far off. Also, you made a sarcastic comment saying something like why don't we just compare Killzone 2 to a 2 year old game like Halo 3! Apparantly you must be new here, because they have been doing stuff like that for a long time!

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thorstein - 95 days 4 hours ago

Forza 3 released? GT5 Not finished being made. How does one compare the two.

I love my Forza but this is just lame.

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talltony - 95 days 11 hours ago

GTP has better lighting, better shadows, higher rez, and more real looking cars. Notice how he points out realistic shadows in forza and even though GTP's are better he still says Forza 3 has the upper hand. Forzas shadows are too hard and dark. GTP has much softer ones. ANyone seeing the games side by side would see that Prologue "OVERALL" is graphically the better looking game. It just looks to be the more realistic looking racing game. Just my 2 cents.

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Sir Ken_Kutaragi - 95 days 11 hours ago

Beat this -

http://www.youtube.com/watc... ;-P

Or Beat it!!! ;-D

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ZBlacktt - 95 days 11 hours ago

Who ever wrote this article is just sad. Way to make yourself look like a fool. This is a closed case, done deal. We've moved on and the winner has been well known for years. Blu-ray over DVD just like in motion pictures in brilliance and color, details. Don't be denial of technology and logic.

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Lou-Cipher - 95 days 8 hours ago

"Most companies don't charge for "DEMOS"...atleast i know MS doesn't since every game on the Marketplace allows you to try the demo for free first"

Did you seriously say that Microsoft doesn't charge for Demo's?

What About
Ninja Gaiden 2 = $60.00 Demo
Star Ocean 4: The Last Hope = $60.00 Demo
Tales of Vesperia = $60.00 Demo
Halo ODST = $60.00 Demo
Splinter Cell: Conviction = $60.00 Demo
Mass Effect 2 = $60.00 Demo

I guess you could call them Beta's instead of Demo's. What ever makes you feel better.

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Narutone66 - 95 days 1 hour ago

It's no better than GT4 on a 1080p HDTV. A bot did mistake the Forza3 for a Wii game because of the graphics.

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KILL-ALL-CURE - 95 days 1 hour ago

Why the hell are they comparing it to GT5P? Why not compare it to the pictures from GT5, anywways this is retarded

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zag - 94 days 17 hours ago

Yes that would have to be correct I think.

The GT5:P? screen shot is far far too old looking.

Though you've got to love Forza 3 roads with canyon cracks all over the road, which isn't realistic at all.

Then most of the textures will be done with some shadowing as this eases the processing on the CPU and GPU.

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FlipMode - 95 days 11 hours ago

Is this Forza 3? http://i36.tinypic.com/2zz4...

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Xlll - 95 days 11 hours ago

Take a look at the number of cars in GT and the detail they put into those cars so they all react like there real life counterparts. GT isn't some crappy arcade racer with sh!t physics, flopza is tho. Enjoy your smudged out graphics while we will be enjoying true HD racing.

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suunyd - 95 days 11 hours ago

You sure? I only see one pic being nitpicked to death and even still GT5:p looks better than forza. But, I guess you feel tingly that one of your xbox bros went out of their way to find any little detail so your precious forza could win agianst a 2 year old game.

http://www.qis.net/~jschmit...

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topgeareasy - 95 days 10 hours ago

http://www.gameswire.net/co...

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ambientFLIER - 95 days 7 hours ago

Topgear - I've got a shot for you

http://images.eurogamer.net...

Magnify and enjoy...shows you how poor GT5P really looks

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topgeareasy - 94 days 11 hours ago

http://i491.photobucket.com...

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IcyJoker187 - 95 days 11 hours ago

Better to show in-game shots of both games.

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IcyJoker187 - 95 days 10 hours ago

Haha, You think selling 2 million is bombing, and then you say Sony fans are the dumbest, how sad lol.

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ReviewsArePolitics - 95 days 10 hours ago

You're pathetic

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ReviewsArePolitics - 95 days 6 hours ago

You know, if I didn't bother addressing his points, it doesn't necessarily mean that I don't want to talk about "the obvious terrible flaws of the game". Doesn't your weak ass brain think that maybe, *just* maybe, I just don't give a sh1t about whatever Mr. no bubbles has to say? I simply say he is pathetic because of the pain he has to go to try and prove a fanboyish statement, not to mention that he, just like you, doesn't care about reality. His beliefs come first, so if he is proven wrong he'll just banish into obscurity or resort to more mindless trolling (just like you).

It's just not worth anything but a laugh.

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Nintendo Wii - 94 days 16 hours ago

Wait. wait. Wait...
They actually said GoW1 would be killed by Kz2?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahah stop it! stop!! haahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

I had a good laugh right there.

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Nintendo Wii - 94 days 16 hours ago

Oh.
Since "GT5 is coming in March so please get a life", makes a whole lot of sense, i guess, "i made a balloon yesterday and cashed it so buy me some milk", does too.

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dkgshiz - 95 days 6 hours ago

The problem is. GT5P still looks better lol.

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Nintendo Wii - 94 days 16 hours ago

It really doesnt at all.

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