Top 10 Reasons Why Xbox 360's Project Natal Will Beat Waggle Control

skv007 - 168 days 5 hours ago

*points to the site name*
I think they tried very hard to think of those reasons ^^

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HarukoHex - 168 days 4 hours ago

WTF would you need rumble for when you the one moving. that would be just stupid. as for buttons. WTF you are the buttons idiot.

there knocked those 2 of your list.

also gwave why are you in every 360 article just to bash it. you think you would be banned by now.

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Dirty Beaver - 168 days 4 hours ago

@ ^^^

Umm this is on the ps3 channel. Why you here anyway? can't read?

Another blind knob jockey, all you see is green lol.

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Max Power - 168 days 4 hours ago

rumble is very important, without it you'll see the damage but won't have a sense of the feel of said damage. That's why the PSeye games weren't that great, you can see your self hit the object but that's it.

also I love it when Xbox fans made fun of sony fans because of the lack of rumble in the sixaxis, but now that they have something that doesn't have rumble its not important.

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Dirty Beaver - 168 days 4 hours ago

@ MAX

lol tell me about it. Just like all of a sudden graphics don't matter lol. Fanboys crack me up. Their battle was lost before it began.

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Kushan - 168 days 4 hours ago

Why are you assuming that Natal can't be used with a controller? What's really stopping a developer using the 360 pad and Natal at the same time?

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Blaze929 - 168 days 4 hours ago

What's even funnier is Microsoft already said and confirmed some games will use Natal only, a controller only and some will use them BOTH COMBINED.

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GWAVE - 168 days 4 hours ago

@ Kushan and Blaze

So you're saying that in those games that use both, you want to drop your controller, do some arm flails, and then pick your controller back up again? Or maybe you'd want the game to read your facial expressions so that you have yet ANOTHER thing to keep in mind while playing video games.

Hahahaha! Quit your fragile excuses. Natal doesn't offer anything new. Anyone claiming it does is ignorant.

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really duh - 168 days 4 hours ago

lol

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I did not murder him - 168 days 4 hours ago

Whats even more sad is that MS said Natal will be able to track more than one object and gamers all at once.

The saddest thing is Bill Gates revealed Natal two years ago in a sense. Bill said what Natal would do years ago. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

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Dread - 168 days 3 hours ago

relax sony fangirls

this is supposed to be a joke.

the author is not serious.. he is making fun of everyone...

did anyone READ THE ARTICLE?

wow this console war is really getting nasty

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Kushan - 168 days 3 hours ago

@GWAVE

So what, Natal can't track the controller itself? Or your head movements? Or your feet or anything like that? It has to only track your hands and arms? Or that it can't track your facial expressions because you're using a controller? Think outside the box for once.

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SolidAhmed - 168 days 3 hours ago

in my opinion the casual gamers at first would like the idea but i am not sure about the hard core gamers.

my self as a hard core gamer i could not have the same amount of fun in Zelda TP (wii version) as the game cube version.

clicking buttons for me in gaming is a thing that i grow up with and simply it could not change.

i do not mine supporting motion controllers as long they keep supporting the "beloved original controller"

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Mini Mario - 168 days 2 hours ago

Did anybody even read this article>>> ? It was making fun of natal if anything. Unless your gullable enough to think he really means :-

"Number 03
Peter Molyneux's "Milo" will revolutionize the way 30-year old guys meet 10-year old boys. "

"Number 02
Unlike Sony and their upcoming motion sensing system, with Natal and Milo Microsoft can safely avoid any pink-ball-on-a-stick jokes and skip straight to the "child predator simulator" references."

"Number 01
C'mon, waving your hands and feet in the air is so much cooler than jerking your waggle stick around."

Seriously guys you need to read more than just the headlines before you comment.

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Blaze929 - 168 days ago

rofl nice find!

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rockleex - 168 days ago

You can use it to see the bottom of an Avatar's shoe.

Its also so much more accurate than 1:1 motion controls.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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DaTruth - 168 days ago

Before we go ahead and do the comparisons with Natal coming up on top; First show me a working Natal! Microsoft is the only one who's motion control has yet to show a fully functional prototype! And it is the only one to have a fake guy behind the curtain smoke and mirrors act!

Bam, there it is!!!

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Brutallyhonest - 167 days 23 hours ago

Am I the only one that feels Natal will lack immersion?
I am one of those guys that has stering wheels w/ force feedback & c0ckpits, arcade sticks, flight sticks, buttkickers (tactile transducers) under my seating, 7.1 sound, etc because it adds to the immersion of gaming for me.

I just don't see how a motion camera, even if it involves a controller, will give me the immersion I am use to/ looking for. Gaming is so advanced today. If anything that is why the Wii has their own following of brand new/ first time casual gamers (<-I struggled to call them that). The games on the Wii for the most part are easy to play.

I thought N4G was made up of mostly hardcore gamers. Maybe I was wrong. But if I'm not do you guys really think Natal will be successful in mainstream games like FPS/TPS, racers, fighters (<-how?), etc?

I just don't see how this will work with anything but casual games.

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swingingape - 167 days 22 hours ago

wow. people. it's a joke. no one reads the actual article, do they?

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kunit22c - 167 days 21 hours ago

I hate these extremely ignorant 360 fanboys! seriously get a life, you 360 fanboys did the most bashing on the Wii for its controls but now you are getting motion controls and your all excited. Just wow. Also another big thing you 360 bashed the Wii for is no hardcore games, well Natal cant play ANY hardcore games. Motion controls are perfect for FPS's which the Sony and Nintendo motion controllers can do but Natal cant do that. You all try to defend Natal but you are simply doing this because it is being made by your beloved lying and cheating Microsoft, but that is the only reason. and almost none of you will buy this, and the few that do will be hypocrites so you 360 fanboys have screwed yourselves with your ignorance. Also someone PLEASE tell me how you could play a game with a 360 controller AND Natal without it being a hassle, or even possible.. Also when PS3 controllers had no rumble you flamed all over that, but now that you have something with no rumble its ok.. 360 fanboys are just ridiculous. Just grow up, and stop being so hypocryticale. and yes i realize not all of you are like this and sorry if i said this when you arnt, but the majority of 360 owners are like this but i know not all of you are, because im friends with some 360 owners. So yes Wii and PS3 fanboys it is a rare breed but there are 360 fanboys that arnt extremely hypocritical, childish and ignorant.

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JohnnyBadfinger - 167 days 8 hours ago

and the 'Waggle control' can be used to pleasure your mum. PS3 fanboys will go wild.

Microsoft dont have the guts to make anything that resembles a penis, dildo or vibrator, so kudos to Sony.

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SIdepocket - 167 days 8 hours ago

Once again, GWAVE fails to read the article.

Typical.

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da720izcumin - 167 days 5 hours ago

dude, what do you gain from being bashing the 360?

btw

NATAL IS THE TRUTH!!!

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Dread - 168 days 3 hours ago

dude

the guy is just joking..

why is everyone taking this article so seriously?

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clinker - 168 days 2 hours ago

This article is hilarious. Most of the points are just making fun of the whole hype surrounding NAtal and motion controllers in general. PLus, the PS3 controller looks like a penis.

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swingingape - 167 days 22 hours ago

not if arnold gets his way...

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Max Power - 168 days 4 hours ago

its like game devs making voice chat a requirement for online games, the deaf and mute gamers will be left out.

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GiantEnemyCrab - 168 days 4 hours ago

Come on man.. get real.. So I guess people born with no arms should sue Nintendo because they can't use the waggle.

It's an optional accessory and you don't have to use it if you don't want too. You sound like you are actually angry at Natal like it's some person that has insulted you.

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mrnintendo96 - 168 days 4 hours ago

The thing is with Natal is that you cannot play these games with it:

Halo
Gears of War
Call of Duty
any hardcore game in general

You need a controller, and buttons.

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DaTruth - 168 days ago

Those people born with no arms also cannot use a controller!

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Marquis_de_Sade - 167 days 15 hours ago

I find it amusing how you act surprised your fanboy rant is garnering disagrees. Move to the open zone or can it.

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Dirty Beaver - 168 days 4 hours ago

*picks up ps3 or Wii motion control* yep seems like better investment. plus it won't self destruct in my hand lol.

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DlocDaBudSmoka - 168 days 4 hours ago

We're supposed to take YOUR word as gospel. i think not. I mean you can't even write properly. its YOU"RE as in you are not your. So before you call anyone else a moron, go back to elementary and learn the proper use of words.

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Hutch2355 - 167 days 23 hours ago

It is you're not you"re idiot.

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i3eyond the Circle - 167 days 9 hours ago

Kid I can't even fathom on explaining on how "you're" not even around the level I've attained from the things I've accomplished.

But I tell you what.

You can go around N4G being peoples grammar corrector and spell check whore.

I'll be expressing my opinions on games and consoles with the addition of minuscule grammatical errors that only an Advanced Literary Arts teacher would get there vag sanded out for.

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i3eyond the Circle - 168 days 4 hours ago

Most of the people that will be interested of the NO controls apps will be casual gamers a sort of Wii crowd who aren't materialistic like other gamers.

The people complaining about not being able to use a controller will have nothing to worry about for it goes both ways.

Win Win

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GIJeff - 167 days 5 hours ago

the Wii crowd is the most materialistic. after all, they buy the machine(material) to be cool and hip with no intent on using it. Wii owners are pretty much in the same category as prius drivers. smuggy pieces of S with no clue. if you really cared about MPG you would get an 81 rabbit diesel that gets 55 MPG without the use of a GIANT TOXIC BATTERY.

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bjornbear - 168 days 2 hours ago

Then again, many here would prefer to eat a steak with a spoon and soup with a fork just to keep loyal to their investment =/

Many starving "gamers" here....

P.S. read the article people, its a massive parody, its not actually seriuous...however i didn't find it tht funny =/ kinda...meh

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Grown Folks Talk - 167 days 20 hours ago

it's obvious that you use a fork for pieces of meat or noodles that can be twirled, & a spoon for liquids & rice that can fall through the fork. Or, if you are Elaine Benes' boss, you use a fork to eat snickers bars.

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ApocalyPS3 - 168 days 3 hours ago

i know man, it's great to already have one in your living room to make that kind of judgement ;)

and of COURSE it's all just demos right now! jeez, you don't think a new product actually has to be DEVELOPED do you?

"Limited range of depth accuracy"
-in its current form!

"No buttons"
-grab a controller!

"Poor implementation in core games"
-it's not out yet!

"It ignores/confuses input"
-it's not finished yet!

"Requires line of sight"
-in its current form!

"Limited range of depth accuracy"
-in its current form!

"Many of their demos were just concepts"
-that's why it's called "PROJECT" Natal...as in still WIP!

"Not accurate enough..."
-in its current form!

"For your full body to be in view you have to stand at least 8-10 feet away, and people just don't have that much free space in their bedroom"
-again, in its current form!

"It's different from the Wii and PS3 remote (in a bad way), so it can't do the same games"
-it's going to be different, and in a BETTER way, since motion controllers limit the games the games you play with them too.

"Navigating menus with gestures will be slower than a direction pad"
-grab a controller, or better yet TELL the cursor where to go.

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ApocalyPS3 - 168 days 3 hours ago

Also, Jimmy Fallon's demo with Burnout Paradise was just that: a tech demo. It's a game that wasn't built for Natal and they were just trying to shows some backwards compatibility with the system. Even with that it's still a WIP, nothing is final.

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swingingape - 167 days 17 hours ago

Natal isn't the real joke. read the article

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JohnnyBadfinger - 167 days 8 hours ago

While that article was HILARIOUS! and one of the best articles ive read in awhile, i gotta admit the no feed back thing is a killer.

But i dont care for motion controls so i wont be getting natal anyway. Ill stick with the BEST EVER MADE CONTROLLER..... the XBOX 360 controller.

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NegativeCreep427 - 168 days 3 hours ago

You know why? Because of this little portion: "Sony is coming out with their ice cream cone controller."

Once again, this idiot either hasn't done their homework on the full details surrounding Sony's motion initiative (It was clearly stated that Sony's "Ice-Cream cone controller" shown at E3 was nothing but a prototype; the final controller will not look that way) or they wrote this piece with a heavy fanboy mindset.

Anybody who takes any honor in their writing and who isn't a partialized melvin wouldn't have put "Sony is coming out with their ice cream cone controller." for it obviously has something of a disparaging tone to it.

D*ck Headed fanboy backing Natal in accordance with fanboy allegiance: Confirmed!

Well, I guess this author and his ice cream cone description is better (and not as gay) as the N4G MS butt-buddies who can't stop thinking about dildos whenever they see that Sony motion demonstration at E3.

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Marquis_de_Sade - 167 days 13 hours ago

Negativecreep: Fanatic who hasn't bothered to read the whole article: confirmed!!

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NegativeCreep427 - 168 days 3 hours ago

Your boyfriend just isn't around to give you what you need like he used to, huh?

Poor Mart. Don't worry, Chris Crocker likes dildos too! You should try to get his number.

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TheMART at Xboxkings - 168 days 3 hours ago

On my brain? Nope on Sony's and you Creepy PS3 tard!

Check them out the pictures, Sony's PS3 stick and their balls of fire!

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idontcare - 167 days 17 hours ago

don't you realize that everybody's laughing about you and your stupid comments?

i think you need sex or something but i know you can't have it .. so sad!

if you can't have fun with the games on the PS3 than you're not a real gamer .. just a fanboy!

and please keep your "I love LBP" comments for yourself. you're not worth to play a game like this.
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.... waiting for MART's "the germans are nazis" reply!

edit: @NegativeCreep: yeah, that's exactly what i thought. TheMART just can't stop thinking about dildos.

no job, no life, so sex .. it's TheMART, and he's one ugly looking guy! ;-)

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TheMART at Xboxkings - 167 days 12 hours ago

@ idontcare

Only Germans look butt-ugly. They have patent on that. Hell look at the guy with the mustache. He was an incest product, like you are also. Too bad you live in a low life flat, I own a 1906 build manor, my gf is hotter then your German screaming Nazi biatch, my job is more interesting then yours. Oh and for sure, put up a line of girls and let them have a good look on you and me and they'll pick Mart for sure. Girls don't like little incest guys with mustaches like yourself idontcare.

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