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Sony's E3 2009 Press Conference Could Be The Biggest In History & A Turning Point In Software Perception

Twiggy, PushSquare.com: "I've been sat here pondering on a topic for today's Opinionator for a couple of days now. While I was going to talk about Killzone's irritating emphasis on terrible characters, I've decided a discussion on E3 would be ever more prevalent, particularly with Sony's superman John Koller claiming it to be the most important conference in 11 years for Sony. I'm still yet to be convinced that blockbuster games equal mainstream hardware sales, but I am convinced that blockbuster games will equate to niche hardware sales - the niche being us, the gamers, who cannot stand to go without. And that's exactly why I think E3 2009 could be a turning point in perception for the Playstation 3."

A balancing argument on why Sony's E3 2009 conference could provide the turning point for gamer's perception on the Playstation range, concluding in:

"Instead of those in the loop questioning what Sony don't have, they'll be questioning what THEY don't have - a Playstation 3, PSP and access to all the quality content that Sony have in the pipeline."

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KionicWarlord222 - 231 days 2 hours ago

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So...i guess the big three this year ,are going show something big.

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Kigmal - 231 days 1 hour ago

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I'm not falling for this. Just your typical PR bullsh*t. In fact you'd be a dumbass to fall for this. Just wait till E3 and that's it.

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poindat - 231 days 1 hour ago

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Well, in any case, it should be better than last year's E3. There is plenty of great announced and potentially unannounced exclusives from Sony, Nintendo hopefully has listened to their fan base from last year, and we have almost no clue what Microsoft will be getting up to.

It's going to be good - hopefully.

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Shbzshar - 231 days 1 hour ago

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well they must really have something up their sleeves to say something like that .... best e3 in 11yrs?... you dont say that unless you absolutely have something to brag about... this e3 is going to be good

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Kigmal - 231 days 1 hour ago

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I know it's not the same, but I remember when Microsoft said they had the biggest announcement in gaming history. It turned out to be the Pac-Man championship edition which was basically a remake of Pac-Man. Companies tend to either exaggerate or bluff on these sort of things. Just wait till' E3 nice and calm.

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sinncross - 231 days ago

1.5 - @Kigmal

I think the difference between your explanation and the PR from Sony is that Sony do indeed have something big to show off.

Look at it from this perspective: the 2009 PS3 lineup is pretty impressive atm and easily the best of the 3 this year. N and MS will obviously announce new software to counter Sony's 2009, however, Sony have already stated countless times that at E3 they will be showing new software, for both PSP/PS3, for 2009.

Sony's E3 is getting so much talk about because what can they possibly add to a good looking year of software and we are talking about titles not even announced as of yet.

I am certain all three will be good this year (Can Nintendo really do worse then last year?) but Sony's announcements are going to be important to see how they are structuring themselves against 1st and 2nd place for the remainder of 2009.

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ZuperAmazingCooKie - 230 days 23 hours ago

1.6 - I hope Sony doesn't disappoint

But they probably will. I hope I'm wrong though.

It's good to keep things quiet, because otherwise you could set expectations too high. GDC07 was epic because Sony kept their mouth shut until the last minute, it was some guy named Moledina that broke the silence but that wasn't Sony and he didn't say much, only that Sony fans would be "happy", and Harrison delivered.

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Freak of Nature - 230 days 22 hours ago

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I think that it is a given that this show will be big....

Most people here know the long list of games coming.And these games will be at the show in some form,be it teaser trailers,full blown cinematic movies and or playable demos...

The show will be big,just how big will only be determined by unannounced heavy hitters.

Team ICO and the SONY studios in Cambridge,London,Liverpool all of which have very large groups of devs and have been working on projects for more than 2 years or so could finally unveil.GOW3,GT5 can show major new details and cinematic masterpieces and release dates.

Then Kojima can announce a game or two (Dare I say it)...Wardevil is another game that can make the entire show that much bigger.PSP2 will also play a big part in this show,just how big?Details on Home.Price cut? That too can determine the impact of the show.

All this or just some of it added to all we already know, will be at the show,the 1st party games and the multi-plats could very well make this "HUGE"...

This will be my 11th E3.And after the past two,I am really geared up to see the show come back strong.I am always in hopes to see that one incredible surprise megaton,like the one I saw at GDC 07' with LBP.Perhaps Media molecule come in show some LBP PSP,some extra downloadable content for LBP and then give us a major surprise,a glimpse of an all new IP....You can always hope,and these are the things that can make this show huge....

How about Insomniac,is it possible they show us a new IP (that rumored act/RPG platformer) from their new NC studio? Maybe a teaser trailer/concept art within the Ratchet & Clank Acit showcase....

Hey Sony want to drop a real megaton? Just show Uncharted 2 in detail and then announce Jak 5 for PS3.Yup the show just got bigger.It'a all conjecture,but some of it will stick,and I do believe make it a massive show for Sony...

Nintendo? Kid Icarus,Mario and or Zelda make their show.These games beyond whatever else they show casual or hardcore will make or break their show IMO...

Microsoft? They will have multi-plats.But to help them stand toe to toe with SONY they need to show exclusives.Whats Rare going to show? KI,PD,Conker,Kameo2,a new IP? Perhaps 1 of them for the Fall,and the other for next year.To go along with something for the casual World,Microsoft know real well where the ca$h is.

If they show Allan wake,and it is indeed a show stopper,along with Splinter cell,Forza 3,ODST and Mass effect 2 they will be vindicated.Throw in some new out of nowhere unannounced 1st party IP and they will stand tall near Sony,I dont think as strong as Sonys line-up,but strong enough.Only a good thing for us PS360 owners...

Lots of conjecture,and if's and coulda's and ??? But some of this will happen to go along with the already known 20 or so major titles coming.I think it will be big no doubt,but can it be ("HUGE"?)

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scissor_runner - 230 days 17 hours ago

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Man reading these comments reminds me of nintendo fans back when it began struggling. What happened to the sony fan that believe this will be the year of the PS3?

Has the hardcore fan realized how small there group really is yet? Or better yet how splintered their group is because what is hardcore to you is not hardcore to every one.

The best thing SONY could do is to start making games that make people want to try other types of games instead of the ones that have dominated gaming in the HD realm so far.

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ultimatek1 - 231 days 2 hours ago

2 - Yeah Yeah ...or

Building hype for sony!!! hmmm, reporters doesnt learn and doesn't tire of the same thing. The didnt learn about killzone overhype failure, a perfect example. As i said once, building too much hype can cause the opposite effect on the buyer, from a possible inversion into be scare from investing on console or game. Let the time account the announcements, news or success, and not mediocre articles with out solid proof of anything. Remember E3 last year, nobody saw what MS did, did MS build overhype? NO. Lack of information isnt equal to lack of titles, marketing or capacity. Most game reporters dont even know what they're talking about, the just comment in base of popular thinking. If they really knew whats incoming, the story would be a hell different.

Being desperate for publishing things without valid sources and solid proof of the statements of a report, only cause misconception in potential buyers, and puts them far away of the possibility of investment. i said the killzone 2 was an example, sony reliaed in onlline marketing and hype, but didnt work to create a true scenario of a great incoming game, the decition to let reporters and game websites to manage marketing and hype for the game failed to capture investment. Buyers need evidence and proof, not hanging words on articles and reports. Killzone is a great game but is Sony's own fault for the failure in sales. A game like it, could have sold over 4M and not 1.1M(officially confirmed up to now).

Let the gamers decide, what will be great or not, not reports or articles, building hype from air, so then when deception comes, they go fast an tell Sony lied, and they are sad cuz didnt see this didn see that, it wasnt announced, for Christ sake, if game media creates such conception then they should accept they role on failure and not acuse companies.

Game media, every day talk about PS3 price drop, then when that comes, it will be ablow to MS, they tell it will come next mon th, gamers react waiting for this, then sony said that don't plan a ps3 price cut, then gamers are in deception, whos fault is? Game media. They have been fucxing with the price drop the entire year 2008 and up to now mid 2009. They dont realize they are hurting Sony, when they build hype only to get deceptions on a never ending cycle up to now, and it will continue cuz my opinion doesnt matter a sh!t.

My advise, wait for official announcements, not buggy articles.

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get2sammyb - 231 days 1 hour ago

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You didn't read a word did you? Fair enough. Essentially renders your point irrelevant.

I would have been happy to discuss it with you too. Come back when you've read the article.

EDIT: To actually clarify that you didn't read, I only read the article once but, from what I read no game mentioned in the article is currently unannounced apart from Team Ico, which common sense says we can assume. All other statements are based on quotes from John Koller or previously announced games.

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KionicWarlord222 - 231 days 1 hour ago

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halo was hyped and sold Very well.

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Max Power - 231 days ago

2.3 - why....

hello Alex, nice to see your comment twice, once on the article page and once here.

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tplarkin7 - 230 days 23 hours ago

2.4 - The original Halo was not hyped.

A launch title for a new console by a newcomer had zero hype. In fact, there was only skepticism. After the reviews and word of mouth, Halo became a phenomenon.

You can argue that Halo 2 and 3 were not hyped, either. There's a difference between high expectations based on previous experience, and hype without any basis. Motorstorm, Haze, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Uncharted, Killzone 2, were all hyped without any basis. That hype was driven by Sony fans that wanted a killer app. None of those games had predecessors worthy of high expectations.

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Diamondwolf - 230 days 21 hours ago

2.5 - "You can argue that Halo 2 and 3 were not hyped, either. "

Soooooooo.........what you're telling me is that you don't want a Halo Mountain Dew?

pfft not hyped! *giggles like a schoolgirl*

Ok, now, on to the topic. Do NOT, I repeat, DO NOT expect anything from Sony, trust me. I expected last year, I was shot down. I expected 2 years ago, I was shot down. All I expect now is that they'll announce something that won't be ready until 2012/2013 sprinkled with a few pre-christmast 09 announcements and then the rest is just flair.

The only thing sony did very well last year was the LBP presentation, and that was the hottest thing to happen in E3 2008.

With that said, I am still looking forward to sony's conference, as well as Microsoft and Nintendo, until then. Do not fall for the hype.

~DW

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ultimatek1 - 231 days 1 hour ago

3 - @get2sammyb

I did read it. It said nothing, only possible scenarios, that if they fail will bring more deception to sony fans.

@KionicWarlord222, yeh Halo was hyped, but it was hyped in both fronts, with proof of the game concept directly arriving to thegamer not by comments or articles, that how Killzone, was supposed to be marketed but it didnt.

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get2sammyb - 231 days 1 hour ago

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Please cite a paragraph where a "possible" scenario is mentioned aside from the Team Ico sentence, because I've read it and I didn't see any assumptions really.

Are you telling me you DON'T expect the previously announced God Of War III, Uncharted 2 or Heavy Rain to be at E3?

Are you telling me that you think it's "speculation" that Sony aren't going to bring their biggest games to the biggest games show of the year?

I'd agree it's presumptuous; but in a way that is basically TOTALLY obvious.

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ultimatek1 - 231 days 1 hour ago

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1. Title(big in history, how and what will be the cause, anything official?)
2."Pile of games", "software in abundance"- connotation for hyping a slow growing game library(a fact, not a perception), its almost like a marketing statement
3.Gonna CHange at E3- How? With What?
4.So many games dropped at e3- Have u follow past e3 expos?, in fact there are less titles announced than 2005 and 2006, when X360 and PS3 where launching and needed real hype
5. Quality content- Which one, its the same across consoles(and dont even mention Home)
6.Perception has to change- How the fucx, if you didnt said anything and didnt bring anything to the table, not even a official statment or fucxing rumor

Bro im sorry but the article lacks information, itsn't informative, is misleading. The games u said, are officialy announced since PS3 launch, nothing new.

He could have, used x360 ceo comments about PS3 price drop, which in fact reflects the rality of sony corporation, that way, its using conception from air, they aren't baseless.

The whole article is like a letter of desperation from a frustrated fanboys that wish anyone listen to him that the PS3 will change, that kind of letter create the opposite effect, bTW did u read my post/letter?

@KionicWarlord222 (yep haha)

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KionicWarlord222 - 231 days 1 hour ago

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its ok man its just article take it ease.And yes i understand what you meant about halo 3.

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get2sammyb - 231 days 1 hour ago

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I would counter those points:

1) The title states "could" therefore not representative of fact. It's also a follow up to Sony's marketing director who stated it would be Sony's biggest conference in 11 years -
http://www.vg247.com/2009/0...

2) At the end of the day, the article is a column clearly focused around opinion, and it discusses the fact that there is "software in abundance" despite public perception which this E3 "could" change. It's a discussion.

3) The article discusses that the "perception" of a "lack of software on Playstation 3/PSP" could change with the lineup Sony have planned this year. Yes, I agree, it's presumptuous of the fact that Sony will bring all their big games to E3 but, are you willing to tell me that they're not going to mention, for example, God Of War III at E3? Because of course they are.

4) Previous E3's have nothing to do with this years E3. That's irrelevent.

5) Don't understand your point here.

6) Reread response 3 in this comment.

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Spike47 - 231 days 1 hour ago

4 - Last E3 3 New Exclusives were announced. (GOW3, DC Universe and MAG)

This E3, I expect Sony to do the same again and show some gameplay footage of GOW3.

I expect MS to show off some exclusives aswell(1 or 2) because it really looks like they need it.

If Sony gives the PS3 a price cut and improves its marketing, the console can defenitly start to outsell the xbox360 again in North America. But again, Sony never seems to learn the "marketing" part.

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king dong2 - 231 days 1 hour ago

5 - i think the emphasis should be on COULD

and then, we SHOULD all ignore this irrelevant thread until a few months after E3....then we will know if it really was a turning point!

get2sammyb: your trying to hard! especially with the attck and defense of whats obviously your blog.

c'mon, when is this site going to be renamed b4g(blogs4gamers)?

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MriownBOTH - 231 days 1 hour ago

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like introducing home.....BIG SURPRISE

Sony and Microsoft better blow me away

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ultimatek1 - 231 days 1 hour ago

7 - @get2sammyb

Haha, 1st of all i willl try to reply in the same post i only have 4 comments, and i ahve used with this one 4.

Welll get2sammyb , im not trying to crash your submission, i just trying to tell u, that by a psychological point the article doesnt prove anything and creates the opposite effect. As u said, is a pressumption(point 3). I realy believe that alot of game will come but the ones u mention are obvius to appear at E3.

Lets take an exmple, if by some how he has information regarding a new unannounced Bethesda proyect he can hint about the possible Elders Scroll V, or Oblivion 2 coming for PS3 only, i would have prefer that, and it can be explained cuz the texture sizes would not be able to be on a DVD 9. Of course is a comment purely from thin air, but it serves better than the commnets or sugestion of the article.

I admire your passion, but seeing Killzone sales, somehow ps3 fans were responsable for it, too. And that is whats need to be changed

Edit; Point 5 is that quality content isnt a feature on PS3, they(consoles) do the same as all, bringing updates, dlc, movies, demos etc, the only thing that can be is Blue ray format, but that is out of the gaming aspects, that for movies.
Edit 2: @get2sammyb: Post 9 - Yep

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snaz27 - 231 days ago

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ive never seen so much rubbish in just 4 posts to be honest... i really cant be bothered to go over all of it as im sure its clear for everyone to see... and as you have used your bubbles you cant reply to me... the the most claring piece of crud you said was that blu-ray was out of the gaming aspect! oh so games arent on blu-ray then numb nut? blu-ray isnt a big incentive for 3rd parties to make ps3 exclusives? to make it easier for them to realise there dream game? yeah course blu-ray is just for movies isnt it! people like you make me laugh to be honest you say soooo much but know so little!

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sugard0 - 231 days 1 hour ago

8 - Stop it! Stop it NOW!

As usual trying to hype us for something that may not be as spectacular as first thought! We will all be tuning into E3 probably to be dissapointed because some site (pushsquare.com) has hyped Sonys press conference to be the best thing since sliced bread! Everyone dont listen to this FUD.

FW 2.70 anyone?

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-EvoAnubis- - 231 days ago

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Do you even know what FUD means? It's not a synonym for "something you don't agree with." This article is called "hype." FUD is a totally different thing, but my name is EvoAnubis, not Merriam-Webster; you can sort out what that term means yourself.

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Elvfam511 - 231 days ago

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For firmware 2.70 Sont didn't say anything we did the fans hoping the RUMOR FIRMWARE was coming and I wasn't disappointed as a PS3 owner

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get2sammyb - 231 days 1 hour ago

9 - Can I just clarify

To clarify a few things: a) yes this is my site; b) this is not my article.

When the article was submitted to me by our columnist and I edited it, the point that came through to me was not hype or speculation -- what the article is trying to say (and I hope it would come through to those who read it), is simply through scope of content, people's perception of the Playstation 3's content range MUST change after this years E3 because there are going to be like 6 games there.

From what I read, I don't believe he's talking in speculation or figures -- it's presumed common sense.

After all, I'm glad it's got you guys talking -- that was the idea behind this particular column: opinion and discussion so thanks for all your responses.

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-EvoAnubis- - 231 days ago

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For some people, anything that may alter their outlook on reality is a threat, and they will attack it with everything they can muster. I read the article and enjoyed it.

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siyrobbo - 231 days 1 hour ago

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big surprise this year

sony are quitting the console wars and finally admitting that the PS3 has failed and that microsoft are too good a competition and are going the way of sega, killzone 2 360 the first of there new games

MS are quitting the console wars and finally admitting that the 360 has failed and that sony are too good a competition and are going the way of sega, halo ODST for PS3 the first of there new games

Nintendo finally reveal there evil plans for world domination, thus confirming what everyone knew from the beginning, brain training was a brainwashing program to turn everyone into mindless drones. Wii fit was phase 2, a top secret soldier training program designed to secretly train 1000's of brain-trained drones ready for battle. Phase 3 will be revealed at E3. The super smart, super fit troops are going to storm every major capitol in the world, miyamoto becomes the new president of the world. Wii music 2 is also unveiled.

Thought i'd get these in quick before the mad fanboy rush

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lh_swe - 231 days 1 hour ago

11 - I think it will be really good.

Not ground breaking, yet reaffirming Sony's status as a major player in the console industry, I do believe there will be an announcement or two that we'll be very happy to hear.

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123456789 - 231 days 1 hour ago

12 - Sony also had 9 unknown games to be revealed at TGS08

anyways just give me GT5 this year and Im good.

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i_like_ff7 - 231 days ago

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Team ICO Team ICO Team ICO!

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Coolrah - 231 days ago

14 - Big E3 this year

I think sony will have exclusives that lead up all the way to the end of 2010 personally. With the way their pumping out games its gonna be a long surge of exclusives....This E3 has to be big for them as it will show that they aren't out of the game just yet.

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free3sixty - 231 days ago

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2009 = biggest year for SONY! Best games, best line up.. many exclusives!
Best year believe me, like 2007 and 2008! lol

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Spike47 - 231 days ago

15.1 - If you were trying to be sarcastic you completely failed

the PS3's lineup for 2008 was better or at least on par with the xbox360's lineup.

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ZuperAmazingCooKie - 230 days 22 hours ago

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"the PS3's lineup for 2008 was better or at least on par with the xbox360's lineup."

Same could be said for 2007 if you consider that Bioshock and the Orange Box are multiplatform, and that Mass effect will be multiplatform.

Uncharted > Halo 3

Ratchet > Halo 3

Warhawk > Halo 3

Folklore > Halo 3

Heavenly Sword > Halo 3

Lair > Halo 3

=)

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mastiffchild - 231 days ago

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I've said it before and I'll say it again. What we know Sony have coming up is so varied and , indeed, many in number that to cherrypick what we guess will be there is pointless.

The timing is key here-all those previoes e3 announced games must now be near completion plus more that weren't ever openly aired. This is just a consequence of the studios Sony control and the fact most are about ripe to drop and nothing more. sony, more than the other two, have to puck correctly what to bring out. Ninty-god knows these days and MS, hopefully, will have a Rare game, a MW game and maybe something from Valve and Halo Chronicles news-but they have less to start with from a first party pov and can always concentrate more. Also they'll have theusual, but dull to me, former PS3 exclusive going either MP or 360 exclusive.

I just want to see if Wardevil or AW actually exist after all these years of teasing as I like the look of both-esp now Huxleys been gimped half to death.

So Sony can change perception but to do so will mean more than a good E3 where only people luke us are watching-they need to crack the public market at large like the godawful H3 campaign did but they don't seem to care to do so. there's also all the eye games for the casuals like EyePet which will be shown and maybe Eyedentify. Also expect loads of casual stuff from MS this year-sadly as they'll waste Rare on it like with those rip off Mii efforts that embarrass everyone last year.The they gave them the most, in Avatars, generic name ever!

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kewlkat007 - 230 days 23 hours ago

17 - Give me a break, were dead smack in the middle of a recession

I think, companies are gonna keep it short and cheap this year with so many cut backs....there will be no Biggest Ever..

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Swiftfox - 230 days 23 hours ago

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It is nice to see the PS3 on the offencive for a change since they have been on defence since launch.

This will force both Microsoft and Nintendo to play a different game. That's either a good or bad thing.

When Nintendo was on the defensive they desided to shoot out and tap the casual market en-mass. Microsoft, being pushed back by the PS2, decided to blitzkreig and shoot their product out the gate ahead of the compitition to try and corner the market. Gosh darn the consiquences.

For this E3, let's remember that the states is Microsoft's home turf, they can pump all their resourses into the territory to push off the compition. I'm not saying they are desprate but I think they havn't played their hand yet. Sony shouldn't be worried, they should be ready.

Sony's home turf is Japan so anything from Japanese developers etc will most likely wait until then. We should see a strong showing from USA based developers as well as USA related relieses and confermations.

However, we won't actually know until we see it for ourselves.

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mephixto - 230 days 23 hours ago

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STOP THE HYPE!!!

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Hellangelzx - 230 days 23 hours ago

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I want to see MAG gameplay, and Versus 13 gameplay, and I want Kingdom Hearts 3.

I don't give a damn if any other games come out right now, I've been waiting for Kingdom Hearts 3 for over 3 years since they showed that teaser trailer back on G4.

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Kick The Ass - 230 days 23 hours ago

21 - The keyword is 'could'

You know, Nintendo could too, and Microsoft too?
Hell, Sony 'could' have made this showoff last year too?

Just give it a rest people, only things that are real is the things that is happening, and this is not happening in a while.
It 'could' happen though, no denying that. But can't everything?

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free3sixty - 230 days 23 hours ago

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If the ps3 has many games.. and like ps3boys say -> Quality>sales... so why does the ps3 sells so bad? i cant get it..

Please dont mention the price.. becasue if we look on game sales.. they are also very poor. (Kz2)

Are only members on n4g interestt that much in sonys PS3? In Sonys games? Whats up with the rest of the world. In europe the PS3 already costs 300 euro... and still the ps3 is behind the 360 there.. i cant get it.

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Apocalypse Shadow - 230 days 22 hours ago

23 - sony will have a great show.but haters like the one above seem to not get it.

when sony was outselling microsoft for many months last year at a higher entry price,there was excuses.only when microsoft dropped down the system price twice did it regain a marginal lead.take both official worldwide sales numbers from sony and microsoft last year and you will see that it was barely any difference.microsoft's only lead is the one they started with a year prior.

same people can't figure out why sony has beaten wii in japan 8 weeks straight or why micrposoft's games haven't evolved graphically or technically.if all the advancements you see is going from 4vs4 to 5vs5 multiplayer,no games that look better than the same greasy game with barely any enemies onscreen or no more awards for recently released games,then those green glasses aren't working properly.

sony could pull out new franchises,old franchises from ps1 days.doesn't matter,they have more to give and show at E3.it's almost half a year,but sony has announced games well in advance of E3.third parties have announced games for ps3 before E3.what big games have we heard from microsoft?why are dev houses being closed?

unless you got something to bring to the table besides old PC trailers of alan wake,find some game to play.but i'd bet it's the same 3 games you have been playing.with halo3 being at the top as no new franchises seem to matter to that other system's fans.tell us about lips sales?tell us about banjo sales?tell us about scene it sales?why aren't you buying those?tell us why having almost all sony exclusive games go platinum is bad?

E3 will be very interesting for sony as they do hold a lot of cards to play from their own deck.and not from the one microsoft wants them to play from.remember,microsoft is looking at 3 more possible years for 360,sony is looking at another 8 on the market for ps3.

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Jdoki - 230 days 19 hours ago

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Set your expectations low, and you can only be pleasantly surprised... :)

Speculation just leads to overblown hype and ultimately disappointment.

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bviperz - 230 days 16 hours ago

25 - I'll believe it

when I see it. From all 3 of the Big Three.

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Foxgod - 231 days ago

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Just like Killzone 2 was a big turning point.

O wait....

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Labwarriorbot - 231 days ago

1.2 - Sony's E3 will RUN over MSs E3 like last year.

Thats a fact. Let me put it this way.

If GT5 shows up, which most likely will happen, than its already over.

I havent mentioned Heavy Rain, MAG, GOW3, and plenty more yet.

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Action Bastard - 231 days ago

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Killzone 2 was a turning point Foxbot. It was really, imo, the first game that came out and said "Look at how sh!tty the 360's graphics are!". Uncharted started the trend, Killzone 2 punctuated it. Then it layered on MP that is as good a COD and sold over a million copies in 2 months. But please, resume hating.

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tplarkin7 - 231 days ago

1.4 - And....

- Just like the PS3 was to support 2 HDTVs...oh wait
- Just like E3 2005 Killzone footage was realtime...oh wait
- Just like the PS3 was to launch Spring 2006...oh wait
- Just like the PS3 was backwards compatible...oh wait
- Just like Lair was to justify Sixaxis controls...oh wait
- Just like Haze was supposed to kill Halo...oh wait
- Just like 2007 was the year of PS3...oh wait
- Just like 2008 was the year of PS3...oh wait
- Just like Home was going to beat Xbox Live...oh wait

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Action Bastard - 231 days ago

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Your list extending to 2005 shows what little you have to play on your 360. Tsk. Tsk.

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tplarkin7 - 230 days 23 hours ago

1.6 - @ Action Bastard

The Sony hype has to stop. It's killing Sony fans. There is a consistant drum-beat of hype and let-downs. The simple fact is that the PS3 lacks a game that sells consoles. Killzone 2 was the last stand that was going to make 360 owners buy a PS3. Halo Wars sold more copies than Killzone 2 in the U.S. 212,000 PS3s sold in the same month that KZ2 was released. 330,000 360s sold that same month. Killzone 2 is an utter failure in its goal to sell PS3s.

The hype has extended to lies. It was claimed before the release of KZ2 that there were over 1 million pre-orders in Europe for KZ2. Sony just released a statement that they had just "eclipsed" 1 million sold worldwide. NPD says 600,000 in the U.S. So, the lie is exposed. KZ2 is a flop.

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Hellangelzx - 230 days 23 hours ago

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Killzone 2 is a flop my ass.

When the hell was it established that if a game doesn't sell at least 3million in the first F#$3ing day that it was a flop?

What the F%#$ ever happened to the greatest hits thing? Have you ever heard of that? Greatest hits? 1 million sales and it's a greatest hit? Companies used to be proud to even reach a million sales and retards like you are saying that a million sales is a flop.

If you ask me, you flopped, flopped because you expected the next coming of Jesus Christ and that you actually listened to the people on this site who said it would sell 5 million the first day.

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tplarkin7 - 230 days 23 hours ago

1.8 - Killzone 2 suffered from over-hype.

Like I said, Killzone 2 was the reason to buy a PS3. The same month that it was launched, the sales of PS3s were stagnant. In this sense, KZ2 is a flop. If there was no hype for KZ2, it would be considered a success.

Look at some of the 360 games which had no hype. Dead Rising, Left 4 Dead, and Lost Planet. They sell a million or more copies each, and they are considered to be blockbusters.

Sony has been in panic mode since E3 2005 and has not changed. They should just stop worrying and stop over-hyping stuff. Just chill out and let the fans decide.

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Hellangelzx - 230 days 23 hours ago

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Also as I said, you listened to intently to the Sony Fanboys that hyped it.

Killzone 2 was just meant to be a really good shooter, not some god given work of art.

So in actuality, it didn't suffer from over hype, the internet doesn't count when it comes to hype, seeing as how I'd say nearly 50 % of the people who play games do not rely on the internet to hype their products.

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Darrius Cole - 230 days 22 hours ago

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Errr....Killzone is everything that it was supposed to be. Yet some people want to deem it a flop because it sold, I'm sorry, because it didn't sell 2 million units in 7 weeks. However, keep in mind that we don't know how close to 2 million units it has sold, because Sony didn't release an exact number. They only said that Killzone has sold more than one million. A people here PS3 haters mostly, are using that statement to say that its a flop. One million sold is platinum. Saying that platinum sales is a flop makes no sense.

I am seeing what I hoped to see in Killzone 2, and that is GG's on-going support of the game. GG is constantly fine-tuning the already stellar game-play of KZ2. We have had 2 or 3 patches already. They have announced a major patch coming in two weeks, and they are already working on the next major patch after that one. Furthermore we are already getting a new map-pack, 2 months after launch. You can't beat that.

At this rate Killzone will keep selling well on into he foreseeable future, end up with about 4 or 5 million copies sold, and become the shooter to have.

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J-Train - 231 days ago

2 - dont be spiteful because you cant afford a ps3

just wait till the price drops....and get a life

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xdye017 - 231 days ago

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bu-bu-bu-bu-but wait for a price drop!! lol. All I see is major hype and will come to a dissapointment.

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Crissy - 230 days 23 hours ago

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Will it be as good as the last one when they made their own fans cry??

I hope Tretton shoves up drunk and on the verge of tears like last year. He was so cute. He was like a really sad huggy bear :(

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KionicWarlord222 - 230 days 23 hours ago

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i think this year will shock everyone. to think nethier company doesn't have anything is ridiculous.E3 will please all fans this year.

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maverick1191 - 230 days 22 hours ago

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typical xbums thinking sales = quality like usual kz2 is better than gears 1 and 2 and better than halo xbums just live off and they just go ha it didnt beat gears and halo in sales pathetic

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Too_Hyped - 230 days 21 hours ago

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On the other hand, I think MS will announce nothing, as usual.

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Boty - 230 days 16 hours ago

9 - Official List of Microsoft Announcments...

1.) New Game - Murderzone 1

2.) New Game - Halo 4

3.) New Console - Xbox 720

4.) New Game - Gears Of War 3

5.) New Game - Little Big Fun

6.) New Game - In The Movies 2

7.) New Game - Lips 2

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