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FUEL Will be what Motorstorm should've been

Quentyn from AnalogHype.com writes: Without fluffing the beginning of this article with a lot of crap, I'm going to flat out say that Motorstorm and its successor thus far have both been pretty lackluster. The games are fun, don't get me wrong, but they aren't all that they're hyped up to be by the hardcore sony fans out there. When I hear Motorstorm, I think of a bunch of crazy stuff happening, tons of action on screen, and a lot more variety in terms of the atmosphere and environment.
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DragonWarrior_4 - 263 days 10 hours ago
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hahahaha, ive seen vids of Fuel and trust me when I say that its not even half as fun as Motorstorm is. Open worlds are cool, but this doesn't have half the action goin on that Motorstorm 2 has. Tobin from noob toob acted like he was falling asleep while he was playing the game, and even said the game would be fun if it had guns. Of course he was joking about the guns part, but it was an honest opinion.

LOL at the douchebag that wrote this article. He said the Motorstorm was lackluster. WTF does he even mean by that? This guy is obviously too dumb to be writing articles about games if he cant even explain himself properly.

@ogwilson Wow, you can read from dictionary. You so freaking smart. I know what lackluster means, but the dumb ass who wrote the article didn't set the sentence up to where it would have been used correctly. To use lackluster, you have to use examples that lead to the word lackluster. I would go on but your just as dumb as the guy who wrote this article. I dont know how to communicate stupid with people so Im just gonna end this here.
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ogwilson - 263 days 10 hours ago
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Or you're too dumb if you don't know the general meaning behind the word "lackluster" and all that it entails.

–adjective
1. lacking brilliance or radiance; dull: lackluster eyes.
2. lacking liveliness, vitality, spirit, or enthusiasm: a lackluster performance.
–noun
3. a lack of brilliance or vitality.
Also, especially British, lacklustre.

Therefore, Motorstorm just wasn't that great. And if you actually read more than the first 2 sentences, you'll see that the author did make some (brief) points to support his reasoning.
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GWAVE - 263 days 9 hours ago
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"The games are fun, don't get me wrong, but they aren't all that they're hyped up to be by the hardcore sony fans out there."

This line is used almost word-for-word in so many "Upcoming multiplat will be far better than a Sony exclusive" articles. The internet is clogged with them. It's as if Sony exclusives are the ONLY games in existence that suffer from crippling hype, but a multiplatform game sucking? Nooooo way. A multiplatform game not living up to the hype? Nooooo way. An exclusive on the Wii or 360 not living up to the massive hype? Pfffft. Yeah right.

Motorstorm 1 and 2 both have done very well both in sales (first one sold 3.5 million already) and in reviews (82 average on Meta). The internet should stop obsessing with the PS3 so much.
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TheHater - 263 days 9 hours ago
1.4 - @ogwilson
"Again, read my comments as if the US was the only gaming market to exist, because as far as I'm concerned, it IS the only market to exist if you live here."
And it is this type of logic is why US sites fails in the eye's of the world. Yesterday the NPD numbers was release and the xbox 360 outsold the PS3 by around 115K unites in the US in March. But yet how quickly does fanboys forget that the PS3 outsold the xbox 360 by around the same number of unites in Japan in March this year.
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pixelsword - 263 days 9 hours ago
1.5 - @ ogwilson
You say

"but what happened to all of those reports that said RE5 for PS3 was doing better than the 360 version?"

but you also say:

"Sure we're not factoring in Japanese sales, but we're not in japan. This is a US based site, and I'm asking about US based sales. Why did PS3 not deliver here?"

"All of those reports" factored in worldwide sales. When you do a American-centric article, you have to expect RE5 to sell less on the PS3 because there's less PS3's in the US; conversely, you have to expect RE5 to sell less on the 360 in Japan because there's less 360's in Japan.

To ask the question you are asking and then deny the data you're denying is nullifying the progress you are claiming to make as far as obtaining insight into your own question.

Furthermore, you can't claim that "Mortostorm wasn't that great" as a fact; that is an opinion. In that article (which I thought was fairly well written [of sorts], although horribly misguided) you never pointed out the things that made FUEL stand out over Motorstorm; you just added things that cannot be proven other than the fact that you wrote them, and downed Motorstorm, despite the most of the points are very opinionated. Maybe I'm wrong because I'm not following this particular game, but could you add links to support your claims that doors falling off of other cars can throw you off of the road, despite the fact that doors cannot actually throw you off of the road in real life? I'm not knocking what you said, but if you gave examples or links to support your story, it would be an easier read as far as answering questions instead of bringing them up.

EDIT: The writer "Quentyn" said, and I quote:

"Never said I did play Motorstorm 2, thanks for assuming though."

Okay, he never played Motorstorm 2, so how does he even know if it's lackluster or anything?

It makes sense as to why the opinions had no weight; they were rendered by a lack of experience.
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SmokeyMcBear - 263 days 9 hours ago
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damn the ingnorance of some amuse me. This site is not based in the US.. this site is based in Europe
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GamingSucksNow - 263 days 9 hours ago
1.7 - @Wilson
You say US site but yet people around the world comment here, and Yes all the people who import games, like say Demon Souls, are now sad, cause they can play in English.
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Milky Joe - 263 days 8 hours ago
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Well, I don't care what this guy thinks, I really, really liked Motorstorm 2 and I wouldn't call it overhyped in the least. Underhyped if anything.

Also:
"When I hear Motorstorm, I think of a bunch of crazy stuff happening, tons of action on screen, and a lot more variety in terms of the atmosphere and environment."

More variety? What, you want a track set in space? A Mario Kart style rainbow road? That'd add more variety.
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aebriscoejr - 263 days 5 hours ago
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The idea of Fuel seems like it's everything Motorstorm should have been, but the actual game at least from footage isn't like Motorstorm at all. Motorstorm is an arcade racer while Fuel has a much more realistic tone set in an unrealistic environment. However, I do think that Motorstorm: PR came out much too soon (should have came out this year), but I hope they learn from the idea of Fuel and incorporate those elements into the next Motorstorm for PS3. Meaning open enviorment, dynamic weather (driving to the finish line and boom it starts raining and hailing, then a tornado funnels down right in front of the finish line. Now that would be bad@$$).
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HighDefinition - 263 days 2 hours ago
1.10 - LOL.
Motorstorm: PR is EASILY one of the most underrated titles this gen.
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blackboyunltd - 263 days 10 hours ago
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i agree, free roaming ftw
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keops3 - 263 days 7 hours ago
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DIRTYHAIRYJOYSTICK - 263 days 10 hours ago
3 - I call BS
Motorstorm Pacific Rift rocked. If you played it you know already. The engine runs flawless so no slowdown or screen tearing. There's better damage. And the courses are more complex. I won't read this article because the basic premise is retarded.

blackboyunltd - Free roam can't have as much detail and character. Some of the screens on Motorstorm were super heavy on memorable lanes. Without a real route how is it racing?
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blackboyunltd - 263 days 10 hours ago
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you dont think the motorstorm shouldve been free roam?
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Hallucinate - 263 days 9 hours ago
3.2 - above
i dont i hate free roam with a fwcking passion i cant even begin to describes how fwckong retarded it is..its just a gimmick..thats all nothing more to it
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ogwilson - 263 days 9 hours ago
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Free roam isn't just a gimmick, it's become a viable genre and a lot more developers are beginning to cater to it with the added freedom that comes with the hardware we have now. You'll just have to not play a lot of great game that have free roaming, I guess.
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Hallucinate - 263 days 9 hours ago
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well i think it is a gimmick because when i buy racing games i look for something intense, dangerous or w/e you wanna call it..burnout did free roam ok, but still when you were racing there is almost like no interaction between the players..which sucks..look at the road rage for burnout half of the time the guy your trying to kill is 500000000000000 miles away from you..no fun...and fuel well it looks like the only thing that will get in your way is a tornado..which is another gimmick...granted it is a cool one =D but still a gimmick
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raztad - 263 days 8 hours ago
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Well I loved Burnout on the ps2, but the Burnout Paradise (free roaming) just proved to be not for me. I just wanted to go run a race and win, but the free roaming aspect in the game makes hard to keep on the right track and even when winning I end up taking the wrong route and finally losing the race. I guess you need to run the same race several times in order to get used to the damn thing, but I dont have that much time on my hands.

If a game is gonna take the free roaming path, they need to include some kind of checkpoints like in GTA, and people always can use shorter routes if familiar with them.

BTW, Motorstorm is amazing, nothing lackluster with it. Lets see if Fuel delivers.
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DragonWarrior_4 - 263 days 10 hours ago
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I think having a racing in a track is better then an open world. Unless of course its a street racer like midnight club or burnout. Personally I loved the level design of Motorstorm 2 and I cant wait to buy some more courses via dlc. The dude who wrote this article probably never even played the game from what I can tell, and if he did he probably just played the first demo. Regardless I still think hes an idiot.
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ogwilson - 263 days 10 hours ago
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Author wrote a comment in response to a similar assumption on the site:

FUEL Will be what Motorstorm should've been.
written by Quentyn, April 17, 2009
Never said I did play Motorstorm 2, thanks for assuming though. Played the first one, however, and Pacific Rift.
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ogwilson - 263 days 9 hours ago
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Right, and your pointless attempts at insulting my intelligence has summoned the ever-so-ruthless fail whale. Try again next time.
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Phantom_T - 263 days 9 hours ago
6 - Motorstorm...
Was full of awesome,both of them.
Infact,I don't think I've ever had such fun playing an off-road racing game.
Open world racing games are not fun,if you can go wherever you like people do not pick the same routes.
These is no interaction.
no competition.
no fun.
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colossi16 - 263 days 9 hours ago
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Motorstorm provides the most dynamic off-road racing I have ever experienced. There is no match for it when it comes to lighting, explosions and physics.
When I think of Next-Gen I think Motorstorm!
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TheHater - 263 days 9 hours ago
8 - Wait I don't get this at all
Motorstorm is build as an off-road racer not as any open world racer/shooter. Motorstom is exactly what the developer want it to be and fuel is exactly what its developer want it to me. I hate fricken retard "journalist" that don't know what the hell they are talking about. How the hell does this "journalist" know Motorstorm should be what fuel is going to be? Was he/she involve in the development process of either Motorstorm games?
Now is motorstorm is good series? I think yes it is base on the two demos I played of motorstorm 1&2. I haven't played the full game because I am not a racing fan so I cannot judge the full game.
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colossi16 - 263 days 9 hours ago
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TheHater, the author is just hating.
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remanutd55 - 263 days 8 hours ago
8.2 - lol
at the hater i couldnt said it better myself , one thing though you should definitely try motorstorm pacific rift man , its insane
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redsquad - 263 days 9 hours ago
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Why can't the author just praise FUEL without putting MOTORSTORM down?
Add free roaming to MS and it stops being MS, it becomes FUEL. We have two games that offer different slants on the off-road racing genre, so why try to make one like the other??
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Why o why - 263 days 9 hours ago
10 - motorstorm
is the series to beat. Attcaks should be viewd as a complement. Its the best off road racer this gen. Read between the lines.
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remanutd55 - 263 days 7 hours ago
10.1 - lol
why o why , till this day its the best brutal off road racing series i have played this generation so far , will there be a better one , i dont know
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Blakzhuk - 263 days 9 hours ago
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Fuel will be awesome. I'm still trying to figure out how they will do the open world thing without one racer completely getting lost. It does look hot though.
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AclayPS3 - 263 days 9 hours ago
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The concept behind Motorstorm and FUEL are totally different. The first 2 Motorstorm games was NEVER designed to be an Open World game, but FUEL was.

Now that Evolution Studios has some real competition in the Off-road racing genre, you can pretty much expect for the next installment of Motorstorm on the PS3 to be on an even higher level because that's what gaming is all about, developers constantly 1UPing each other and trying to out do each other.

Maybe I should write and article entitled: "Rachet and Clank: A Crack in Time will be what Banjoe: Nuts and Bolts should have been", but since both games weren't even designed around the same concept such as Motorstorm and FUEL, it's pretty pointless to me because both games were meant to deliver different experiences.
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remanutd55 - 263 days 7 hours ago
12.1 - lol
i havent seen till this very day 1 article saying certain ps3 exclusive game should have been like other games, none whatsoever maybe perhaps they have their own characteristics , do you have any other explanation to that?? or is it gaming journalism trying to put sony games down??? i remember when lots of blogs were saying grid was gonna be better than gt , that pure whoops the floor with motorstorm , i have tried those games and they are good but they fall short when you compare them to gt5p and motorstorm , why they dont talk about fuel , for what it is , FUEL . leave motorstorm alone , no game is motorstorm
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devilhunterx - 263 days 9 hours ago
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another blog. another blog writer defending his junk. slow day i guess.
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scott182 - 263 days 9 hours ago
14 - I love motorstorm!
I suppose everyone has a different opinion, I feel motorstorm was a fantastic game and i'm a die hard fan of it and it's sequel.

If fuel is "better" then it then I absolutly will love that too! But I really can't get enough of motorstorm and I hope the franchise sticks around for a very very long time.
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Silly gameAr - 263 days 9 hours ago
15 - Fuel looks like a pretty cool game
but why compare it to Motorstorm? It seems like a lot of gaming sites are comparing games to other games and to me there is no point to this. I think Fuel's gameplay can stand on it's own two like Motorstorm can.

Why compare?
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ASSASSYN 36o - 263 days 6 hours ago
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Insecurity.
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bigboss911 - 263 days 9 hours ago
16 - If your wandering how freeroam racing should be...
go play either ATV OFFROAD FURY 3 or 4 ( i cant remember which one at the moment), It has a mode where its point to point and there is multiple ways to get from point a to point b. It was a cool back on the ps2. You did not have a specific way to complete the race. Freeroam is awesome if done right. I actually think adding point to point races in motorstorm would be breath of fresh air. They have done Desert,Island, and now Arctic. Whats left? I think one based on some European or Asian mountain regions (like the Alps or Himalayas) would be cool, and have the tracks interlock between several mountain peaks, old mines, avalanche ready snow caps, cramped washed out ravines, swampy areas with rain and fog,and some quiet mountain villiages. Maybe have some epic river crossings with the old rickety bridges deteriorating over a couple of laps, till it falls in, so you have to find a new route.
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ASSASSYN 36o - 263 days 6 hours ago
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No game except fuel and operation flashpoint will allow you to roam free on 200km of open terrain completely rendered. Not streamed like other open enviorment games.
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thequietgamer - 263 days 9 hours ago
17 - NOT THIS AGAIN!!!!
analog hype needs to stop with the ps3 bashin. all you talk about on that site is what sony should be doing. i used to go to your site but all you do is talk about how great m$ is. there are three systems out there but according to you guys only m$ makes good decisions about anything. motorstorm should have been this, killzone should have been that. all you guys do is talk about the sony fanboys but all you do is start flamewars. i challenge the entire analoghype staff to post at least one positive sony article. you won't because no one exists to you besides MICROSOFT.
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Karum - 263 days 8 hours ago
18 - What should Motorstorm have been exactly?
I've recently started playing Pacific Rift again and it is a ton of fun.

That doesn't mean to say it can't be improved upon. If Fuel can improve upon the awesomeness that is Motorstorm then I'll love the game.

Motorstorm certainly isn't lackluster in any way lol.

The guy even goes on to admit he hasn't played the game and is going off videos he has seen. Here's a tip, videos are designed and released to impress people. The final product doesn't always live up to the early impressions of a game.

Fail article from a joke journo imo.
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tda-danny - 263 days 8 hours ago
19 - @ Fail Blog by Quentyn
Quote " written by Quentyn, April 17, 2009
Never said I did play Motorstorm 2, thanks for assuming though."

This is in the comments section under the author's blog. (Quentyn is the author of this 'article')

He calls MS2 lack luster, but then says he has never played it. Congrats on putting your bullshit on the Internet for us to read Quentyn!! Much appreciated!

Seriously, if your going to hype Fuel, go ahead! But to put down MS because it apparently appears lack luster, even though you haven't played it yourself? Get a clue!
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typikal82 - 263 days 8 hours ago
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lol horrible writing, failure.

I wish the control feel was more like motorstorm 1, its hard to turn in M:PR
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Phantom_T - 263 days 8 hours ago
21 - My Mother...
Hasn't really touched a game since she beat her Alex the Kid addiction years ago,yet she's always on Motorstorm : Pacific Rift.
And if Motorstorm can do that,it can do anything.
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SplatterU - 263 days 7 hours ago
22 - stupid blog
This garbage really has no place on N4G.......this guy writes a blog trashing a game he hasn't even played, and over hyping another game....again he hasn't even played. GG.
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cyrus228 - 263 days 7 hours ago
23 - whats this guy talkin bout?
why wouldnt motorstorm be hyped? its the best offroad racing game period, is pure better? Nope, atv offroad better? nope, baja? NOPE, so whats he talkin bout. motorstorm 1 i would agree with him, but motorstorm 2 is awesome. far better than the original. fuel looks eh i guess.

i hate when people talk crap before the game even comes out and think its gonna be the best
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farhsa2008 - 263 days 7 hours ago
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haha dont make me laugh, this title should be renamed to "fuel will try to be what motorstorm already is"
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pixelsword - 263 days 7 hours ago
24.1 - You hit the nail right on the head
FUEL is trying to be like Motorstorm just like PURE was trying to be; and they both are trying too hard to be Mortorstorm to actually beat Motorstorm: which is like saying "I'm going to be better than you by being exactly like you".

Motorstorm is a tough act to follow, especially since the first Motorstorm is still a really great game to play.
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xxBATTLECATxx - 263 days 6 hours ago
25 - ummm
i thought pacific rift was the most gorgeous intense offroad racer ive ever played. INTENSE.
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