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RPGFan: White Knight Chronicles Review

RPGFan has the first english review of the highly anticipated PS3 RPG. Here's what they have to say:

"Reviewers and game writers of all stripes love to pontificate about trends and 'shifts' of all sorts when talking about specific genres or generations. RPG's are no exception, as many have suggested that the most recent generation of consoles is seeing the rise of western RPGs and the fading of traditional Japanese role-playing games. With Mass Effect, Fable II, Fallout 3, and Oblivion all outshining the likes of Lost Odyssey and The Last Remnant, many are wondering if we have merely seen a string of sub-par games, or if JRPG's are on their way out.

Many gamers, myself included, waited with baited breath for White Knight Chronicles to come out and give PS3 owners something to cheer about. Both the system and the genre could use a white knight in shining armor to come and save them, and with every other game being sequel number four or thirteen, the fact that WKC is an original franchise does not hurt. An original and superb PS3 title is just the game we have all been waiting for."
Rudo - contributor
Published: 303 days 8 hours ago | Review | PlayStation 3
 
 

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creeping judas - 303 days 9 hours ago
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oh oh??

I'll still get it when it's released.
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locos85 - 303 days 9 hours ago
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Me too. Looks interesting
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Chris399 - 303 days 9 hours ago
1.2 - I think that the game will be great.
Level 5 has yet to disappoint me with any of their titles.

Oh, and any of the "issues" that the reviewer mentioned could be fixed for the North American release. Seems kinda dense to review a game for the NA audience that hasn't been localized yet.

The reviewer really seemed like he was reaching for flaws. Vesperia, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Undiscovery, Last Remnant, all JRPGs this gen really have been uninspired.

"It makes no fatal mistakes, but possesses no great virtues," says the reviewer.

I'm sorry, but have any of the games that I've just listed really redefined the genre or done anything groundbreaking?

Oh, and his other complaint that your characters don't feel powerful enough and the comparisons to Star Ocean and FF are a little odd. Do you want the game to try something different (which, by his opinion it did not), or do you want just another JRPG?

He then goes on to praise the online component.

Confused people are confusing.

P.S. Bubbles and agrees for the top two posters. WHO ARE THE PHANTOM DISAGREES? Don't post unless you have something to say. A fly-by "disagree" is an act of cowardice.
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morganfell - 303 days 8 hours ago
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Just remember the Japanese press gave it a similar score and the public still snapped it up.
1.4 Agent VX | 303 days 8 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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TheTwelve - 303 days 8 hours ago
1.5 - I don't know guys...
...I'll buy it, of course, because JRPGs are my favorite genre of games but I'm afraid this won't be what I thought it was.

Look at their other reviews for PS3 RPGS...they are very accurate, perhaps except for their overly-high score for Enchanted Arms. I mean, Enchanted Arms is better than WKC? Really?

I believe that the reason why there is no release date in NA is so that Level 5 can fix things up based on the Japanese run. Once they are ready, we'll see a release date. Hope it gets here before Christmas.

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TheTwelve - 303 days 8 hours ago
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Look:

http://www.rpgfan.com/revie...

Ok, so this game is only 4 points better than Untold Legends? What the HECK?

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TheTwelve - 303 days 8 hours ago
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Oh, and Agent--- Valkyrie Chronicles remains the only JRPG truly worthy of being called next-gen so far. That game didn't let anyone down.

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Hiruma Youchi - 303 days 7 hours ago
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"Valkyrie Chronicles remains the only JRPG truly worthy of being called next-gen so far"

because it scored 90+ its really next gen? so other games like:

Folklore and tales arent next gen?

12 youre crazy.

its like saying well since Motostorm2 dint score 90+ its not to be called a next gen racer! Nigga PLEASE!
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TheTwelve - 303 days 7 hours ago
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Yep. Because Valkyrie Chronicles is the only JRPG that feels like it isn't a polished PS2 game.

Folklore, much as I like the game, is barely an RPG at all.

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Light Yagami - 303 days 6 hours ago
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LOL! Look at all the sony fans. Remember when you called all JRPGs on the 360 a flop? This bite you all in the ass.
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Beast_Master - 303 days 6 hours ago
1.11 - Umm
You do realize this game has already sold more units just in Japan, than any 360 JRPG has sold world wide? Even if it flops out at a mere 500,000 units sold in the rest of the world it will be far from a flop.
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Arnon - 303 days 5 hours ago
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No.. pretty sure Lost Odyssey has sold more.
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orakga - 303 days 4 hours ago
1.13 - Ugh...
I know I'll get some disagrees for this, but WKC was actually very disappointing for me too. I played it for a while, expecting to spend most of January on the game, but I ended up selling it because I... just couldn't stand it anymore (note: Xenogears is my fav. RPG of all time, so please don't accuse me of being anti-JRPG or something)

I think this review (the one posted) is VERY fair. It does raise most of the concerns (and praises) I had, quite thoroughly.

Hopefully, Demon's Soul won't disappoint (although it's more action-ish and JRPG-ish). I am glad I had it mail ordered before it was sold out. =)

Cheers,
1.14 La Chance | 303 days 3 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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morganfell - 302 days 23 hours ago
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Light Yagami, Beast Master just pwned you with that fact.
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Jenzo - 302 days 18 hours ago
1.16 - @Beast_Master, morganfell
Though you guys were all about "quality > quantity". Now I see you preaching sales instead lol!
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RememberThe357 - 302 days 17 hours ago
1.17 - Actually
It was the Light guy who brought up sales, but you go ahead and pretend that didn't happen.
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vhero - 302 days 15 hours ago
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sorry but review scores and RPG's never match quite right for me. Low scoring RPG's are usually the best and high scorers are usually poor with a few exceptions.
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Armyless - 302 days 11 hours ago
1.19 - Oh look. La Chance is trolling another PS3 thread
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hazeblaze - 302 days 10 hours ago
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Yea, I'll still get it but my expectations have been drastically lowered. It seems like it had potential to be so much more. I really don't care about any of his criticisms except the ones concerning magic... that's a big part of rpg's for me. The thing that took getting used to the most when playing Fallout 3 was the lack of any spells! That's also the reason I still like Oblivion better.
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JoySticksFTW - 302 days 10 hours ago
1.21 - if people let this score stop them from getting this game, then those people are fools
we all know the types of scores PS3 exclusives reel in

LOL KZ2 a 7/10 from Edge. puh-leeze...
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rucky - 303 days 9 hours ago
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Hmmm this seems like the only "average" rpg I'm dying to get my hands on. Read the review and there weren't really any issues mentioned that's deal breaking for me.

@below Yep and the cliched story and whatnot. Like I said it's my feeling about the my expectations on the game. I played Shadow Madness back in the days. Am I ashamed of it? No, why cause I play anything I choose to play?
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aspergersyndrome - 303 days 9 hours ago
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Did you really read the review?

What about the fact the game ends on a cliffhanger and has no guarantee of a sequal, not to mention the poor story leading up to that point.
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Grael4 - 303 days 9 hours ago
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Same here, the issues mentioned were negligible to me, such as the lack of overall MP. To me that's a non-issue since it adds a sense of realism (I mean it would be too easy if you could just go around spamming magic/White Knight form). Same thing with the slow casting, which imo adds another level of realism (played FFXI for years, and slow casting just meant you had to think strategically).

The only issue that concerns me is the enemy being able to attack through walls/floors, but thankfully that's a patchable issue, so hopefully it will be taken care of before the US release.
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doomster71 - 302 days 15 hours ago
2.3 - reviews are only-
Peoples opinions. If I took reviews as gospel then I'd never have enjoyed games like: fokelore, lost odyssey, last remnant, blue dragon and so on. None of those games got great scores but I loved them. Mind you I'm a bit on the fence with killzone 2. It got great scores just like gta4 and the demo is great but gta4 disappointed me. No way it was worth a 10 out of 10. Perhaps I've just played so much shooters over the years though which is why I'm still on the fence (Doom is still the best).
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thor - 303 days 9 hours ago
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It's sad.

The game never really looked that promising - and all the fanboys were getting hyped up about it based on a few lacklustre screenshots and the developer's track record.

It's a decent RPG, but I LOL at all the people saying "I'm definitely getting this game it sounds great" - when they diss the 360's RPGs and are only getting this because there are very few JRPGs worth owning on PS3.

They ignored the famitsu review, but a review by RPGFan seems to hold a lot of weight to me. It's a good game. But it's easily lost against a sea of just-slightly-better-than-good RPGs on the 360.
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Chris399 - 303 days 8 hours ago
3.1 - Inifinte Undiscovery and Last Remnant were not "better-than-good" at all.
Vesperia was Tales of the Abyss in HD - with great characters, but an ENORMOUSLY boring storyline.

Eternal Sonata is on both platforms (enhanced on the PS3).

Lost Odyssey was good, despite a few technical hitches.

Blue Dragon was decidedly average.

I've played every RPG on the 360 and pretty much everything except LO came across as "meh".

The JRPG lineup on the 360 is certainly 'full', but not 'satisfying'. If Star Ocean turns out to be a dud, my sole reason for purchasing a 360 (JRPGs) is basically moot.

P.S. Famitsu gave Haze a 34/40. People need to stop referencing them, as they do not have any clue what they are doing.
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pumpkinpunker - 303 days 7 hours ago
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"The JRPG lineup on the 360 is certainly 'full', but not 'satisfying'. If Star Ocean turns out to be a dud, my sole reason for purchasing a 360 (JRPGs) is basically moot."

LO is the best next-gen, straight up JRPG out there and it's developer Mistwalker is financially backed by Microsoft. LO was also successful and has sold the most worldwide of any HD JRPG so far this gen. You don't think Mistwalker is working on a sequel or new IP as we speak? MS is not just giving up on JRPGs after Star Ocean so you may want to hang onto your 360.

Also, try Fable 2 or Mass Effect if you like RPGs. Even if you're a obsessive Japan-ophile with a Anime wall papered bedroom and think RPGs begin and end with Japan you may be pleasantly surprised. My roommate was.
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Pennywise - 303 days 9 hours ago
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At the end of the day, WKC is hard to recommend for people who are looking for a good offline stand-alone adventure. Even where the game innovates, specifically the battle and avatar systems, the game slips up by improperly balancing damage and incentives and making the player-created character totally inconsequential. The story campaign is easily completed in 25 to 30 hours, so really the game makes an excellent rental. If it’s online gaming that you are focused on, add a few points to my final score and have at it. I suspect there will be some patches and changes for the North American release, and if they address even some of the problems mentioned here, you will have a very worthwhile game. Ultimately I think the franchise has potential. Nevertheless, it’s still very skip-able for people with a long backlog of games to get into.

Well, I guess since I am looking for an online RPG add a couple points and I should be happy with this game. Plus, we all know it will be updated by the time it comes to NA.
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RPG Guy - 303 days 8 hours ago
5 - Level 5 vs Story Part 4
Seriously, they need to get them some better writers. I've heard this a few times about this game now and it was a major issue with Rogue Galaxy, making that game's progression a bit tedius. I haven't play WKC and WILL give it a shot, but this is downing to say the least.

One thing, RPG nuts like myself can't take that "numbers" complaint seriously after FFVIII and FFXII. First off, the magic of FFVIII outside of meltdown truly became useless outside of junction by disc 3, so no complaining about just using combos and attacks RPG Fan! Plus, if you're going to get annoyed over the uselessness of the Knight and it's comsumption of AP, um....FFXII summoning anyone? Double standards = questionable logic. Still, I trust RPG Fan, but those two things are a little questionable, especially since he says long time Role-Players like me are supposed to know this is a bad thing, even though good games do it.

This, FFXIII (my demo comes in April!) and Star Ocean make for a good RPG year.
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blackpanther25 - 303 days 8 hours ago
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I agree with you magic was totally useless in FFVIII (i just spamed summons until the end of the game not jk). Don't even talk FFXII, there is no need for summons when you can spam the limits and they even do more damage (i can spam 35 limits in a battle at one go).
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RPG Guy - 303 days 8 hours ago
5.2 - Good point Panther
Quickenings against main game bosses made the game far too easy. Still, against the likes of Yaizmat, Omega Mark XII and Zodiarc (though there's a fun 25 second way to beat him) it was just hack city.
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LeonSKennedy4Life - 303 days 8 hours ago
6 - Wow
I've played it.

A 70???

That's terrible! I'd give it at least a 9. This game is awesome!
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tatotiburon - 303 days 8 hours ago
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well no more "the RPG of this generation" and remember the articles "Level 5 the new Square Enix"? LMAO...

Another avg JRPG, nothing more.
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LeonSKennedy4Life - 303 days 8 hours ago
7.1 - No.
There won't be...sadly.

You should play this game though. It's amazing!!! Why listen to reviews?

If we all listened to reviews, we'd all be playing Halo 3 right now...instead of other, better games.
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fermcr11 - 303 days 8 hours ago
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"Level 5 the new Square Enix" ... yes, i remember that one ... LOL

Japanese press gave it a similar score and PS3 fanboys went ballistic.

Were are all the JRPG X360 hatters? Aren't you guys bashing this game?
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N4PS3G - 303 days 7 hours ago
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well..whats wrong with halo 3?

I still play it online and it rocks
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LeonSKennedy4Life - 303 days 7 hours ago
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What's wrong with Halo 3?

I can't believe you're asking that question.
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Man_of_the_year - 303 days 6 hours ago
7.5 - @LeonSKennedy4Life
Here i will ask it then - what is wrong with Halo 3?

What is so bad about it that takes it away from gameplay over graphics?

The art style is great and the the gameplay is even better...so again, why don't you back up your "oppinion" with something actaully wrong with the game.
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Arnon - 303 days 5 hours ago
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I haven't found anything wrong with Halo 3 either..
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RememberThe357 - 302 days 16 hours ago
7.7 - Oh Halo 3...
The graphics where crap, the gameplay was average, the Story was forgettable, and it wasn't really an upgrade from Halo 2. But in all fairness I had a good time with Halo 3 and I'm glad I played it.

The problem I have with the Halo series is that it never lives up to my expectations. I love the Halo universe but the games are never deep enough for me and they always take the story in weird directions. I'm really looking foreword to Halo: ODST though, I like the direction it seems to be going in.
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Man_of_the_year - 302 days 8 hours ago
7.8 - @ RememberThe357
Your views are opinionated and thus are subjective - it would appear that the industry doesn't see eye to eye with you since Halo3 has a 94 metacritic score.

Its funny how you say you hate the graphics, story and gameplay but yet say you love the Halo universe....

You comments hold no argument and thus cannot be taken serious and into account.
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-EvoAnubis- - 303 days 8 hours ago
8 - It's a RPG by Level 5.
It's a buy. Why are we still debating this? Level 5 makes a RPG, you buy it. Period. I don't see why this is something that needs to be discussed.
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-EvoAnubis- - 303 days 8 hours ago
8.1 - Disagrees?
How can you argue with fact? Japan seemed to have no trouble figuring this out. Level 5 made it, they bought it. Beginning, middle, end.

Looks like some of you need to catch up.
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creamydingle - 303 days 8 hours ago
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Its been getting average reviews everywhere but has been selling like crazy in japan. Make what you will of this.
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Cheeseknight28 - 303 days 6 hours ago
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I'm just gonna go out on a limb and say that they wanted to buy any RPG they can get, even if it is mediocre (I'm not saying WKC is, because I have yet to play it).

It's a shame really, you would think that the PS3 would have more above average RPGs than it does considering the PS2's legacy. At least Valkyria Chronicles was great. I've heard good things about Folklore too, but I haven't got around to playing it.
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DA_SHREDDER - 303 days 8 hours ago
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Ive seen vids of this game in action and it looks awesome. Not only does it stick with traditional rpg elements, but its the first true rpg Ive seen on either a ps3 or 360. All of you bots can gripe all you want, this game was made for true rpg fans. Unlike Star Ocean, it seems like it has good pacing, with not too much stuff going on the screen at the same time.

This game gives me the feeling I used to get when I played rpgs' that were good back in the day. FF4, Dragon Warrior 4, with a little of Xenogears in it. Im glad Level 5 are making games for us, instead of making games that only the western immature audience would want. Thats what triace and Squeenix is for. Leave the real rpg's to people who actually want to make a good ones.

OH and btw. Another good action rpg Ive seen is Demon's Souls. That game looks amazing. I consider it the new and improved oblivion, but with great gameplay. Not only does it play good, but the graphics are ridiculous. Those of you that don't know, you can get the game translated in english at playasia.com . I recomend that game to anyone who has a ps3 and loves action rpgs. And yes, they even speak english, its not just the text thats english. Gotta love the no region locks on our ps3's.
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blackpanther25 - 303 days 8 hours ago
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they speak English or Engrish?

Just wanna make sure before i buy the game. I don't want to be like that japanese movies With cowboys and sh!t and they speak bad english
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Azures - 303 days 8 hours ago
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It really seems to me this is a classic rpg adventure, but doesn't try to do much different. Which RPGs are under no responsibility to do lol.

Just give a good story and combat system, everything else is just fluff.
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