Seth comments on PS3 Street Fighter 4 load times

Cwalat - 356 days 14 hours ago

agree,

i'm also getting the PS3 version (since that's what i own :P)
but i'm getting the fightsticks aswell.

nice to see the install is optional. :)

great choice Capcom

hope others catch up!

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POGfinder - 356 days 14 hours ago

definitely good news for sure

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gaffyh - 356 days 14 hours ago

Even though install is optional, I'd rather do the install than not.

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Lifendz - 356 days 14 hours ago

Not flaming but I was going to get the 360 version so I could play my buddy who's in the Military but after playing Gears 2 and seeing how the dpad on 360 can't even handle that, I'm going for the PS3 version.

Install option? Sweet. I'll definitely take that option as I have over 100 gigs of free space in my PS3.

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joydestroy - 356 days 12 hours ago

with you guys as well. i own both consoles but wouldn't dream of getting a fighting game on my 360 because of the d-pad. i don't really have the money to shell out for the fighting stick.

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BleuStreeks - 356 days 11 hours ago

what is the big with installs...I love it when I can install a game is 5 minutes of your time really that serious for people to complain. Why wouldn't any install any game that they can if it improves performance, just looking for something to complain about if you ask me..grow up people. As far as street fighter goes its obvious how can you play street fighter on a 360 with that sorry excuse for a dpad. PS3 is the superior version because you can actually play smoothly...I am a big street fighter fan but playing with analog is a nightmare imo. PS3 version FTW.

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prowiew - 356 days 9 hours ago

I wish loading doesnt exist in gaming ( I hate loading!)

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Danja - 356 days 9 hours ago

PS3 version for me....the Special Edition had me sold...plus I hate playing fighting games with the 360 D-Pad

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eagle21 - 356 days 9 hours ago

:)

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SaiyanFury - 356 days 8 hours ago

I don't mean to sound negative, but does a couple of seconds really matter in loading times? I started playing disc based games on the Sega CD about 15 years ago and load times were worse then than they are now on about ANY PS3 game so a few extra seconds doesn't bother me. Sure, an optional installation to the HDD is a good thing, but it shouldn't be a forced issue. My PS3's factory 60GB HDD is almost full just because of the PSN games and few mandatory installs that I've had to go through. As most people here, I'll be getting the PS3 version of the game simply because the D-pad design of the PS3's DualShock 3 is tried and true and the 360 controller's just doesn't work for fighting games.

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pixelsword - 356 days 3 hours ago

and why does N4G puts a bunch of nobodies on their front pages when the same nobodies on a thread are taboo?

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pain777pas - 356 days 2 hours ago

capcom is awesome!!!!!!!!!

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Kaneda - 356 days 1 hour ago

PS3 for me too..becoz that is all I own. :)

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Cwalat - 356 days 14 hours ago

yepp.. blu-ray does have alot of space.. but reading speed isn't at it's best. but that's all a matter of creativity.

Naughtydog managed to fit Uncharted on a 25GB bluray disc,
without any downloads, they managed to create a seemless game with ZERO loading screens.

But nonetheless. The time loadings shouldn't have that biggofa difference without install aswell.. probably 2-3 seconds.

But if you're looking for fast loading. i say download.

you can always remove the save after.

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thereapersson - 356 days 14 hours ago

Oh yes, I agree on the storage benefit, and being able to fit more high-quality assets on the game disc when compared to a rival format. However, the loading times of the PS3's slow Blu-Ray drive really don't do the format any justice.

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Massahud - 356 days 14 hours ago

1x Blu Ray speed is 36Mbps.
1x DVD speed is 1.3Mbps.

PS3 blu ray drive is 2x, so 74Mbps.
You need a 56x DVD drive to match a 2x blu ray drive in speed.

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Lifendz - 356 days 14 hours ago

but they don't use it if the game has to go to 360. It's the truth. This is why Sony exclusives are light years better than any multiplat game. Blu-ray does make a difference. But Capcom will never utilize blu-ray to the fullest when doing so would mean a gimped 360 version.

But at least they're getting better at making a multiplat on PS3 and are no longer forcing us to do an install (hopefully a trend that continues).

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Fishy Fingers - 356 days 14 hours ago

Price you pay for early adoption (2x speeds).

Although many people make the same mistake I did, DVD9s (majority of 360 games) run one layer at 12X and the other at 8X, DVDs also dont read at a constant rate like BR, essentually the figures you see for DVD read speeds are at their max, when in real life use they fluctuate quite a bit.

Yes BR reads slower but with decent streaming and caching to the HDD installs shouldnt be required, they generally only happen now on multiplat games, which I imagine is because devs dont want to invest more time and effort in one system and not the other. But obviously I dont know the ins and outs of each case.

Each format has it's pro's and con's.

@ Massahud, What? Totally incorrect.
DVD 12X =
12× 126.60 (Mibit/s) or 16.20 (MB/s)
BD 2X =
2× 72 (Mibit/s) or 9 (MB/s)

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Massahud - 356 days 13 hours ago

I messed up with the DVD reading, I thought it was Mbps and not MBps.

So the reading speed of single layer DVDs is faster on the 360, but since the 360 reads dual layer discs at 8x the difference is not so big, 10.80MBps max vs 9MBps constant.

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IdleLeeSiuLung - 356 days 9 hours ago

There might also be a possibility that lower res textures are put on the 360 version and not as much data is being streamed off the disc. I only heard of 1 game that has this though, I think a game by ID Software, but can't remember the name.

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Kushan - 356 days 8 hours ago

You can quote facts and figures all you like and whatever way you like to make it seem like the PS3's BR drive is faster than the 360's DVD-ROM drive, but at the end of the day if there's a difference in loading times between the two consoles, it's usually in favour of the 360.
I'm not bashing the PS3 here at ALL, I'm just pointing out that sometimes practice is a little different than theory. I really don't see why people get so beat up over a couple of seconds here or there, as your drive ages, you'll probably end up with slightly slower loading times anyway.

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Karum - 356 days 5 hours ago

Not sure what you're on about in regards to the load time.

The guy explicitly says the load times for the 360 and PS3 are the same and that you can shave off a sliver by installing the game and even if you do have to install it for there to be an identical load time, the guy said a sliver of time shaved off so there isn't any point giving thought to load times here.

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pixelsword - 356 days 3 hours ago

They said they both ran well "especially" if the PS3 version was installed; it did not say that not installing would make it slower than the 360.

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Fishy Fingers - 356 days 14 hours ago

You crazy? I cant think of anything better than jumping between KZ2 and SF4.

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Fishy Fingers - 356 days 14 hours ago

Hope you avoid this dude then ;) http://uk.youtube.com/watch...

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imdaboss - 356 days 13 hours ago

@ fishy i would had threw my controller down if i lost like that

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Max Power - 356 days 11 hours ago

with a loss like that. the other just owned, hard.

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No Way - 356 days 10 hours ago

That's me in the video winning. ;)

Hehe. Just Kiddin. But, yeh, that's crazy.. I woulda been hella pissed. Ha!

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Perjoss - 356 days 13 hours ago

anyone who takes beat em ups seriously owns an arcade stick anyway.

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pwnsause - 356 days 11 hours ago

doesn't matter, get both ASAP. if you are the biggest SF fanboy out there, then get SF.

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Dark General - 355 days 22 hours ago

Couldn't agree more. It's why SF3 in my opinion is the best fighter ever created. Parrying by far was probably the 1 best thing they implemented into the game? Ryu spamming hadokens? No problem parry. Are they shoryukening you on every wake up jump in? Parry. Still looking forward to the new street fighter though.

But i think i'll be picking up Killzone 2 first.

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ReBurn - 355 days 16 hours ago

Exactly which fighters are out there to compare. There's been a tragic dearth of fighters this generation. It's all shooters all the time.

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The realness - 356 days 7 hours ago

While i completly agree with you that the 360`s d-pad is useless (for everthing,not just fighting games in my opinion)The ps pads were always rubbish for them aswell.when it comes to moves that require more complicated sequences than a simple qurter circle movement, moves like guiles super flash kick in the SFA games or any snk characters big moves the ps2 pad was a pain in the *ss.I bought 2 saturn control pad converters for my ps2 and never looked back.My freinds always blamed the sticks or pads for my constant winning and that is proof enough that the ps pads ,while better than the 360`s for fighting games, is not really ideal for SF/2-d fighting games either.I can pull off any move with ease on a stick or a sega saturn styled fighting pad...8-way d pad instead of ps`s 4-way, six face buttons like on the arcade sticks button layout....perfect for chaining combos into specials.

fighting games work best when you dont have to use shoulder buttons period. I have a hori stick for my 360 and i`ll be buying the sf4 pads AND sticks for BOTH versions (which i have already pre ordered and paid for too!), so ill be whuppin all of your *sses! lol.

for those that are interested and have not seen em yet.........

http://www.unscripted360.co...

more choices

http://www.gamecyte.com/str...

If you really love SF games you owe it to yourself to get atleast one of these...go on...Its valentines day next month too so those of you with better halfs should start dropping them hints from now...

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Dark General - 355 days 22 hours ago

I agree with you realness. While the Ps dpads are better they are no Nintendo/Sega dpads (the best ever created period). It's hard doing shoryukens consistantly because you have to hold both the down and forward button at the same time to get diagonally down forward. Not to mention my thumbs take a beating after extended play.

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thereapersson - 356 days 14 hours ago

Well considering that's the only console you own, I'd say that's a pretty obvious statement.

Dumbass!

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Jason 360 - 356 days 13 hours ago

I'll be getting the superior 360 version myself and I'm looking at a PS3 sitting right there under the table.

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thereapersson - 356 days 13 hours ago

Hrm, I wonder who won the match between team Playstation and team XBOX?

:)

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Jason 360 - 356 days 13 hours ago

The 360 will come back from repair before your game is finished loading.

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solidjun5 - 356 days 13 hours ago

then the 360 will go back for repairs after you turn it on.

See, I say dumb things too.

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anthonyp01 - 356 days 14 hours ago

You div.

"Dev kit units are known to be a bit trickier than retail, and things occasionally have odd glitches there, but regardless of any she-said, he-said nonsense, when everything is working right, nobody noticed any differences between PS3 and Xbox load times (this was explicitly measured by Gamespot during TGS, since they couldn't find any graphical differences to complain about, but they didn't see load time differences either"

there is no difference between them, stop being a moron.

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BleuStreeks - 356 days 11 hours ago

Well that is obvious how can you play street fighter on a 360 with that sorry excuse for a dpad. PS3 is the superior version because you can actually play smoothly...I am a big street fighter fan but playing with analog is a nightmare imo. PS3 version FTW.

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