'Skate 2' PS3 Requires 2GB Of Hard Drive Space

jwatt - 359 days 4 hours ago

Yea Blu Ray does read slower but there are some games that don't have installs and loads just fine. Midnight club didn't have any instals and the load times are pretty good.

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-EvoAnubis- - 359 days 4 hours ago

Skate 2 - Good looking multiplat game - 2GB install.

Killzone 2 - Best looking game on any home gaming console ever (ps3 exclusive) - No install.

I think I've made my point.

Edit: And do the research; for the most part, read speeds on Blu-Ray are faster than DVD9, and remain consistent no matter what layer or disk position the data is on.

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Cajun Chicken - 359 days 4 hours ago

Heeeeeellllllllo, Uncharted.

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Snow - 359 days 4 hours ago

Actually,Dvd's read speed fluctuates while Blu-ray's remains constant.
http://www.gamespot.com/pag...

Technically Blu-ray can run games without installs perfectly fine.
Uncharted:Drakes fortune,Resistance 2 & Killzone 2 say Hi!
It's a matter of how talented the dev team using the blu-ray disc are.

At 2x Blu-ray can read as fast as 12x DVD's minimum read speed. At just
3x Blu-ray is comparable to DVD at 12x; through the first half of the
disc 3x Blu-ray is faster, through the second half of the disc 12x DVD
is faster.
And at only 4x Blu-ray manages to best a 12x DVD's maximum read speed
by 9%.

That pretty much sums it up ! By the way,i didn't disagree with you.

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acedoh - 359 days 4 hours ago

Hopefully they have addressed the frame rate issues they had in the first. I find it strange that after two years some of these developers don't know how to maximize the PS3... I think the main problem is developers put the PS3 second and don't care about getting the most out of it. You would think if a game was capable of selling over a million on the PS3 the developer would put more into it...

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Aaron Greenterd - 359 days 3 hours ago

Can you guys feel the disdain from MTV.com, who by the way is owned by Viacom/CBS (Metacritic, CNET, Gamespot, etc..) who have a private Content Distribution Agreement with MS worth $500 million. Anyway....

Let me rephrase what they are saying:

"Fellow ps3 haters, this is a "public service announcement" that if, like us, you hate the ps3, and your 60 GB is full (like always), then you are gonna have to delete stuff like we are (who cares, right? its ps3 stuff) so you can install the game. or you could just buy the 360 version."

Quote: "Gamers are still in the era of PS3 games that require installations and/or major chunks of hard drive space."

FYI to MTV Blog, gamers are still in the era of paying for online connectivity, and paying 3 times the normal amount for a hard drive, which doesn't come standard btw.

p.s. I tried to install BioShock on my 360 and it said it needed 6.1 GB of space, do I want to clear space. That's half of my 20 GB (Read: 13 GB) 360 hard drive, so I couldn't install it, which makes it not even an option. Where is the "public service announcement" for this?

Screw you MTV, we can see what you are trying to do.

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-EvoAnubis- - 359 days 3 hours ago

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. I don't know wwedx, and I wasn't here to "pwn" anyone or anything like that. I was just correcting a myth. And I'm also not here to say that MTV Multiplayer are "teh fanboyz" or anything like that . . . while I disagree with the concept of a game install being news, it is at least relevant information.

Now, if we were talking about Kotaku or Gamespot, then hell yeah they're fanboys and both harbor an odd hatred for the PS3 (Kotaku in particular), but that's not the case.

Edit: to everyone that's disagreeing with this, the video comment is for you.

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chaosatom - 359 days 3 hours ago

Can I delete that?

I won't be playing Bioshock again, so I don't need it, but I have all the game saves.

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-EvoAnubis- - 359 days 3 hours ago

Yeah, you can delete it. Just be aware that if you ever do play it again, you'll have to reinstall it.

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sonarus - 359 days 3 hours ago

Now if this was only a game that mattered

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Wiimaniac - 359 days 3 hours ago

The X360 is more powerful- Killzone 2
The PS3 needs install for all its games - Killzone 2

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BrianC6234 - 359 days ago

That's not really true. Blu-ray doesn't mean the game has to be stored on the hard drive. It's just one way of doing things with a multiplatform game. If you're upset over losing drive space do what I did and install a 320GB hard drive. I really don't care about this issue.

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The Great Melon - 358 days 14 hours ago

Hasn't it been said before that blu ray is faster around outside edge of the disk because it has a constant angular velocity? With the angular velocity being constant the information on increasing distances from the center having increasing velocities?

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WANNA GET HIGH - 359 days 4 hours ago

"Yawn"...Off topic.

Any one still in awe after watching Ballet Of Death video... :)

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theEnemy - 359 days 2 hours ago

news regarding the install size of PC Games.

Ironic isn't ?

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PirateThom - 359 days 4 hours ago

Fallout 3 does (3.5GB?), but it's quite smart about it. It has a longer than normal load the first time you play, but does most of the installation in the background as you start playing the game.

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Cajun Chicken - 359 days 4 hours ago

Well those titles do actually, admittedly, they are tiny, though compared to some of the ridicluous sizes from multiplats sometimes.
How is the Killzone 2 install? Not heard much about it myself.

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Helghast Slayer - 359 days 4 hours ago

Umm in english please lol

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-EvoAnubis- - 359 days 4 hours ago

There isn't one. Which explains why you haven't heard about it.

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Cajun Chicken - 359 days 4 hours ago

Never thought that it was fully confirmed, so it'll run on the fly like Uncharted then?

Brilliant.

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-EvoAnubis- - 359 days 4 hours ago

Fact. Confirmed by the devs themselves, and I think they'd know.

Hell yeah; it's just good programming. Plus, it's a well-known fact that first-party Sony devs (and Insomniac) work very closely with one another, providing tech, engines, assistance . . . they just work very well together. Check the credits for any PS3 title for any Insomniac, Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch (they're launching their first soon) game, and you'll find names from other first party dev teams. That's just how they operate, and I think it's awesome.

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RyuStrife - 359 days 4 hours ago

Sucker Punch already confirmed an install for Infamous. It just won't be in the beginning. http://n4g.com/ps3/News-257... <---link

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Cajun Chicken - 359 days 3 hours ago

I know about all the first (and second) party devs on the PS3, I just never knew for certain wherever Killzone 2 had no install, with all the other information in the last few weeks, I must of skimmed past that definate confirmation.
I can't wait to play Infamous (obviously after Killzone 2). It'll be the first game I've played by Sucker Punch (as I was more a Jak and Ratchet man) It's great, because when I complete that I can sink more or less straight into Prototype for more sandbox action.

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-EvoAnubis- - 359 days 3 hours ago

Interesting! I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the info!

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Kleptic - 358 days 22 hours ago

Killzone 2 is the first PS3 game to have ALL the textures stored in uncompressed format on the disc...it is something that is only possible on Blu Ray, because storing HD textures without compression would result in a DVD game requiring about 5 discs, or being about the length of one level in killzone 2...

there are several advantages to this technique also...as the textures do not need to be 'unpacked' off the disc...freeing valuable memory and processing power...it also makes an HDD install pointless, as you would have to install the entire texture bank onto the HDD...which would be upwards of 30gb...which makes the overall base code needing to be entirely optimized for he Cell and RSX together; which is why you won't see this in many multiplatform games...the 360 can't come close to doing this, so its not an option...

several other games have used this to a lesser degree...Uncharted streamed in compressed textures, but then unpacked them onto a cache file on the HDD...then streamed them in uncompressed format into the GPU...it didn't 'require' an install, but had some background caching at times during cutscenes...Uncharted 2 however is rumored to do exactly what killzone 2 does, as well as Heavy Rain, and gow III...if the rumors are true, they will all be some of the best looking console games around...and not one of them will require an install...

the most notable comments on this technique came from John Carmack when saying there would be noticeable texture differences between the PS3 and 360 versions of Rage this year...where as being able to store the textures uncompressed on the BD and stream them in without unpacking freed up memory and processing power valuable to other aspects of the rendering...and also resulted in overall better quality textures...

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LeonSKennedy4Life - 359 days 3 hours ago

Did you put wi-fi on it or anything, dude? I need to improve my 20 gig. I have an external memory card reader for it that works well. Did you transfer your game data via flashdrive or what?

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apena89 - 358 days 21 hours ago

$50 Western Digital, 500GB, 7200 RPM, 3.2Gb/s.
http://www.newegg.com/Produ...

one-third the cost of a 120GB xb360 HDD, more than 4 times more space.

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CrayzeeCarl - 358 days 15 hours ago

That hard drive won't fit. The PS3 uses 2.5" drives (laptop drives) but that one is a 3.5" (desktop drive).

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nycredude - 358 days 14 hours ago

When do you plan on getting a Ps3? If you're for real I was just wondering what was teh straw that broke the camel's back? Killzone 2 maybe?

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Keowrath - 358 days 14 hours ago

Nice comment GEC, bubbles for your complete turn around into gamer recently.

You seriously wont regret putting the larger drive in your machine. I upgraded mine to a 320gb drive (AMAZINGLY simple to do) take a look at my game list to see what PS3 titles I own. I've never deleted any of my game installs, have numerous demos installed, the whole of season 4 of lost, Hancock, Incredible Hulk, Wanted, Indiana Jones (yeah... I need to delete that =p) Wall-E and deathrace. I still have 190gb free.

I bought quite a few titles recently and have noticed that the installs seem to be cutting down. Deadspace, Saints row2, LBP, Fallout3, Tomb raider (FOR MY GIRLFRIEND!!!) None of which I recall having an install (I could be wrong on 1 or 2 of those titles) but honestly with the bigger hard drive it's not an issue.

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Statix - 359 days 1 hour ago

The simple fact that you can install a solid-state drive in your PS3 pretty much guarantees that the PS3 will win every load-time test that you'd want to throw at it.

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iHEARTboobs - 358 days 22 hours ago

Didn't I read on here that saving your game on the 360's HDD doesn't always make it faster, and sometimes makes it run worse?

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GiantEnemyCrab - 359 days 3 hours ago

OEM/Refurbed just an FYI.

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NipGrip - 359 days 2 hours ago

Most of their HD's are OEM meaning you get just the HD. No disks, no cables, no manuals, no box. A HD in a silver sleeve in a shipping box with peanuts, which is all you need.

Most of the HD's from Newegg are OEM and there is nothing inherently wrong with that:
http://www.newegg.com/Store...

None of the ones I linked are refurbs unless you'd like to point out one of the 3 I missed?

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iHEARTboobs - 358 days 22 hours ago

I think I might upgrade to a 500gb soon. I'd like to have a small library of movies on my PS3. That would come in handy. And it'll give me that much more space for porn. Yeah, you know you guys have some on your PS3's too. haha

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