Have Square Enix got it wrong?

Darkseider - 344 days 5 hours ago

SE is marketing the hell out of FF XIII especially seeing how well Dissidia was received in Japan. Of all their products released Dissidia was the hottest title they had in a while. With Star Ocean coming and the cold to luke warm reception their other 360 RPGs received I can see why they are on FF overload. It's not to say that Star Ocean will be bad but they aren't counting on it as much as their FF series of games.

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majiesto - 344 days 4 hours ago

I think SE just relies on the Final Fantasy series too much. Still, I'm looking forward to owning AC on Blu-Ray :)

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PirateThom - 344 days 4 hours ago

I think they've got it wrong.

Ignore Disgaea 3, since they're only publishing it in Europe and the fact the Last Remnant, Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy Verses XIII have no release date and all Square Enix have confirmed for PS3 is a Blu-ray movie.

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ultimolu - 344 days 3 hours ago

I don't even know what they're doing anymore...

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ali312 - 344 days 3 hours ago

Who gives a monkeys about square enix, give me fable 2 or Zelda any day

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mint royale - 344 days 3 hours ago

the way they have left Sony for MS reminds me perfectly of the way they left nintendo for sony in the mid 90's. Everything you can level against MS you'd have to level against sony with regards to the Square debacle. I support their move of FF13 because it gives more gamers a chance to play the game. What is wrong with that? Many so called gamers are far too selfish. Making main games multiplatform and hence increasing sales will surely help them survive too.

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mastiffchild - 344 days 3 hours ago

I heard that the proposed demo of FF13 will be Japan only anyway because of the deals with MS(the one on the FF7 movieBlu ray Advent Children). We won't see FF13 til nearly Xmas next year, imo, when you factor in the port time to 360, localisation and that Japan will get it first a long time before us and it isn't nearly finished as of yet.
Also what happens if FF13 isn't that great. Will there still be a great market in the west ages after it's been and gone in Japan? Will the weak Unreal engine RPG's for 360 weaken SE's appeal in that market?
I think the wait in the west could prove SE's worst business move ever and I'm not sure the deal particularly helps MS either and they'd both have been better off doing what they know best. Just a thought , and I might be wrong but whatever happens us westerners wont see any FF13 or FF13vs(not even a demo) for over a year yefrom now and if I'd bought my PS3 for FF(as many people I know had as their main reason)I'd be pretty upset about now. I';m a bit miffed as it is esp since they seem to be queering their pitch with the bad 360 RPGs.

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JohnnyMann420 - 344 days 3 hours ago

I read the article and I realized something. It was worthless.

What the hell is the point of ranting about something so insignificant.

Look how many different versions of the PS3 and Xbox that are out there.

I tried to understand his point, but kept on getting sidetracked on the fact I was reading a serval paragraph article that was complaining about something so mundane and stupid, I barely finished it.

Waste of time and rant.

Thumbs down.

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Fishy Fingers - 344 days 3 hours ago

To many great games this year to worry about SE. Let's be honest here, everything they have released so far on the "next-gen" consoles hasn't been anything special.

Seems SE have become more famed for who they're developing for rather than the quality of their developments.

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Halo3Mgs4 - 344 days 2 hours ago

It sucks that they(se) haven't released any good games. how long did it take for final fantasy 10 to drop on the playstation2? it's been 3 years since the xbox360 first came out and 2 years for the playstation3 and nothing good has come from SquareEnix.

like i said in my past comments "if you want a true epic rpg play ENCHANTED ARMS!"

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kewlkat007 - 344 days 2 hours ago

so it must be doing something right......even if it's not, what you would like them to do.

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imdaboss - 344 days 2 hours ago

good thing Sony said they working on 5 rpgs and i hope they all are epic and you know the graphics going to be nice since its probably a Sony internal studio developing the game

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firelogic - 344 days 2 hours ago

As they haven't released anything decent in a while. Sure they're putting support behind the 360 but they're all flawed, mediocre games that I have no desire to play on my 360, will definitely not be buying for my PS3 if they're released. Judging by their current pedigree, I don't hold much hope for FFXIII or VersusXIII (if this game even comes out this generation at all).

Maybe it's because my gaming tastes have changed. I used to be a rabid JRPG fan but after playing so many, I've grown tired of the same formula of incessant grinding for EXP and money, going to a town, buying new equipment, and repeating over and over until the end of the game.

I used to stay away from WRPGs but after playing Fallout 3, I think that formula works a lot better for me now than JRPGs did for me 5-10 years ago.

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Roper316 - 344 days 2 hours ago

SE hasn't gotten it right since FF X imho. With all their efforts going towards trying to appeal more to the western market ( which hasn't helped ) they are losing their way on what made them popular to begin with and what their appeal was to their core fan base which is PS owners.

FF XIII will be a failure on the 360 mark my words ( refer to Infinite Undiscovery & Last Remnant if you have any doubts about RPG's not selling on the 360 ) and Sony fans should just boycott the game for the 1st month and not buy it just because the disrespect SE has shown them, their core fan base.

I own all current systems and could really careless which system I game on but am totally turned off by SE and the way they are handling themselves this gen.

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Darrius Cole - 344 days 1 hour ago

When you don't make your money from normal market forces. Microsoft pays Square-Enix reduce their sales on PS3. Think about it....

Microsoft went to SE and said,...

Microsoft: "you have a game that you are making for the PS3."

SE: "yeah FFXIII, it is going to be great, and loved by all manner of gamers, both old and new, from the east and the west.

M$: "Yeah about that 'from the West' part we want you to make if for us.

SE: "Cool we are about 95% finished with it. We can start on the 360 version as soon as we are done with the PS3 version."

M$: "Yeah about that 'as soon as we are done the the PS3' part. We don't want you to be done with it."

SE: "But the fans have been anxious for it since the PS3 was released. There all set to buy millions of copies"

M$: "EeYeah, about those fans that are all set to buy millions of copies...we don't want you to sell it to them. We want you not to sell as much of it as you can so that you can sell whatever you can on our platform" (Writes check and hands it to Square-Enix)

SE: "That doesn't make any sense. The game is virtually finished and if I don't sell as many copies as I can as soon as I can the, I waste money...(Looks at check, Uses both hands to count the zeros) So how long do you want us to delay this game. With much money we don't have to sell any copies."

Because of Microsoft's paying for games that were planned to be PS3 exclusive, Square-Enix doesn't need to maximize sales in order to turn a profit. Therefore, it should be not surprising that they don't have a strategy to maximize sales.

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sajj316 - 344 days 1 hour ago

They got it wrong when Wada started setting strategy for them. This strategy started in 2003.

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Magnus - 344 days 1 hour ago

Square is playing a game that the outcome will not be good, when Last Remnant does drop on the PS3 I'm not buying it I'll rent it the 360 version i got bord of really fast. I mean Square is milking the Final Fantasy franchise more than Nintendo milks Mario. Right now as it stands I would not be surprised 2010 before FF13 dawns both the PS3 and 360 and 2011 before FFverse13 even dawns the PS3. And by that time I will look at the title and go meh. Right now White Knight has me interested, along with Cross Edge for the PS3 done by the people who did Disgia 3. An RPG on any system is a break from both machines having just shooter games. I love a shooter game like everyone else but they tend to get stale after a while. When Star Ocean 4 hits i'll rent it but i am not buying it. I wanna hear Square firing up some of their old games like Grandia or even Vagrant Story. These great games need a remake, now everyone will say why not remake FF7 and Xenogears. Well i honestly think Square will not remake those gmes unless the sales are down and there not making a return profit.

As for Sony i could careless if Square touches the PS3 just for the simple fact Square is repeating there pattern again. Going from Nes to Snes was alright but bypassing the Sega Genesis, Going From Snes to PS1 and ignoring the N64. Going From PS1 to PS2 ignoring the XBOX, now going from PS2 and trickling games on the Wii and outting games out on the 360 and maybe trickling the taste buds of the PS3 for games. Square goes where they think they will make a profit, and they days of Square ignoring a system are getting dumb. Everybody knows money is either on timed exclusives or going multy.

I just want Sony to produce more first party RPGS such as Wild Arms, Legend of Dragoon, and Legends of Legaia. These games deserve to come out of the shadows and see the light as remakes and sequals. I hope Namco, Capcom and Konami don't do the mistake of Sqaure and not listen to the fans. I mean Breath of Fire should be braught back, so should Soukoden, and I think Namco should finish the Xenosaga sieres or bring a Tales game to the PS3.

I was a Square fan and I am glad to see them release new orginal ideas but they wee not the same, I would rent Star Ocean 4 but my XBOX decided to imitate a brick. So if Square does dawn the PS3 i'm not buying their games. And I'll be sitting back playing Ar Tonelico 2 on my PS2. Square in my eyes has hurt alot of fans.

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Sangria - 344 days 1 hour ago

Actually, i think The Last Remnant has been canceled on PS3.
I received few days ago the classic Square Enix newsletter, as always promoting its products, including Last Remnant.

But the newsletter shows this:
http://www.weplug.com/image...
The newsletter says Last Remnant has already been released on 360 and will be released on PC in Spring, but they don't even mention the PS3 version. The French Last Remnant website doesn't mention it neither:
http://www.lastremnant-game...

So is this a typo, is it because Square Enix Europe don't want to communicate about it or because the PS3 version has been non-officially canned?

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Reibooi - 344 days 1 hour ago

This is the most retarded thing i have EVER read. First off Final Fantasy VII Advent Children isn't a game ITS A MOVIE albeit it's on Blu-ray people do NOT need a PS3 to watch the movie. Yes the demo will be a big draw and for that you will need a PS3 however that's why they are selling a DEMOLESS version as well.

2nd It HASN'T been confirmed that Final Fantasy Versus XIII is even coming out this year in Japan. They have hinted that it may be but nothing concrete has surfaced.

As well as the fact that Disgaea 3 is coming out in Europe where NONE OF THE OTHER GAMES ON THE LIST WILL BE COMING THIS YEAR!!!!

This is a sad sad attempt at a Anti SE article and it fails horribly.

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FxckOSX - 344 days ago

SE don't care number of selling own games.
because SE get supplied MONEY from MS!

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harry190 - 344 days 3 hours ago

since the Spirits Within fiasco and the subsequent merger/fusion.

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DNAgent - 344 days 3 hours ago

I'm not even sure why you need to ask this question. Maybe it's one of those rhetorical questions because it's obviously that Square-Enix has everything wrong. Ever since the merger they have done nothing but push out mediocre garbage to make a quick buck. They don't care about quality anymore so obviously FF13 and anything they make in the future will be a flopping failure. I hope all of their games get pirated (except the PS3 only ones as you can't pirate those but if you could then I hope those would get pirated too). I already have SE on a "do not buy" list in my head so I won't bother playing any game they put out no matter how much they pay reviewers to say that there game doesn't suck (when we obviously know that it will).

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Drealmcc0y - 344 days 3 hours ago

bwahaha, PS3 fanboys hating on FFXIII now.

Damn all they care about are shooters like R2 and KZ2

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jemmo - 344 days 2 hours ago

You can say all you want but I can't wait for FFXIII. The only problem is how everybody like to spin the game. When it was exclusive it was always "The game will not look good we have games that looks better than that" Now it's not "PS3 gamers are always complaining because it is not exclusive anymore. I have both systems my Xbox 360 got mess up when I played Ninja Gaiden 2. I don't care what system it comes out as long Square Enix can prove to me that it can be best rpg in the days of Final Fantasy 7,8,9 when I first played Final Fantasy let the games begin

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