Killzone 2 surpasses Crysis

Jock - 348 days 11 hours ago

gameplay wise yes....and in the end thats what really counts....

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Steven Colbert - 348 days 11 hours ago

@Jock

You are very wise.

bubbles for you

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evrfighter - 348 days 11 hours ago

won't comment on the graphics part because I don't feel this article warrants such a debate.

But to go on like Crysis is a hit game for the pc gave me a good laugh. Even though Crysis did indeed break the one million sold barrier.

In its first month it only sold 84k...It's considered a flop in the pc community...lol, wonder if this guy knows that.

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Mitchell - 348 days 11 hours ago

It does surpass Crysis, although I mean Crysis without texture mods. Crysis with texture mods might be better, but that's merely a might.

Killzone 2 looks stunning.

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sonarus - 348 days 11 hours ago

Fukin blogs need to die. These are just regular N4G members who just expand their usual N4G comments and post it on their blog just to submit as news. N4G already has a blog section and thats where blog news belongs

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MURKERR - 348 days 11 hours ago

then re-post mate

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PoSTedUP - 348 days 11 hours ago

but but but the CELL!!!

ah yes... the cell.... isnt it great. : D

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jkhan - 348 days 10 hours ago

Ok I should have been a bit more specific. I didn't say that technically its bad or anything. Its technically the most advanced game on consoles, no game, & I don't even see Uncharted 2 surpassing it at a technical level. But you can't really compare Crysis running on a monster machine to Killzone 2 running on a console. Calling Killzone 2 graphics great or mind blowing is an understatement. & a console game competing with a high end pc game and while maintaining its own and coming close at some most spots is an achievement in itself.
But those of us who played Crysis on a high end machine knows from vegetation to sunset its a jaw dropping visual masterpiece, but again that does not mean Killzone 2 looks any less good. I am sure Crysis running on PS3 will not come close to what Killzone 2 looks like.
I hope that clarifies my statement.

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caladbolg777 - 348 days 9 hours ago

I agree, but if so, can we stop posting Kotaku articles on the front page as well? Kotaku is only a blog as well, and a crappy one at that.

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WANNA GET HIGH - 348 days 9 hours ago

All i know is that i want killzone2 more than crysis.I never play PC games so i dont care about crysis.

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HighDefinition - 348 days 7 hours ago

Killzone2 looks/moves better than Crysis.

HAVE YOU SEEN THIS....

http://www.gametrailers.com...

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DaTruth - 348 days 7 hours ago

This is not good! I'm in the middle of LBP, Resistance 2 and Farcry; I'm not done with any of these games yet. And now three more games I have to get are due this spring, Killzone, Infamous, Resident Evil 5 and I just don't know how I'm gonna play them all.
It's gonna be like when I was a kid and my friends had an intervention to get me away from my Sega Master System.

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FantasyStar - 348 days 7 hours ago

It's not. Killzone 2 is an incredibly good-looking game, however just no. Console Games will never look better than PC Games. EVER. People are confusing graphical prowess with art-direction: and this simply isn't the case. Art-Direction is always debatable, but in terms of sheer graphical prowess like 2048x1536 resolution, 100% Dynamic Shadows, 8x AA, 100% Dynamic Lighting, Fully-Destructible Environment, Insane Layer of Depth(LoD), and a game that's comparable to real-life: there isn't anything to debate about. (notice how I didn't bring textures into question because consoles have done a great job with streaming high-res textures: Uncharted is testament to this fact)

For one thing, Just because you can see Rico's sweat does not automatically mean Crysis is automatic "suck" in the modeling department. Just different detail in different places. The details in the Nanosuit itself, and the Korean Soldiers blows away the ISA models, and the Helghast models with much left over. And BIG LOL@ the physics claim. Look, you can literally tear down everything in Crysis from sandbags to friggin buildings with your CAR! YOUR CAR! Last time I checked, in Killzone 2: you can't even use a grenade to blow away sandbags - different details in different areas. I'll give that Killzone 2 focuses on different areas that really stands out like , little rocks falling down of buildings, lighting, how mud looks, and wind direction. However if you've truly played Crysis on the setting that offers every single detail that Crytek has to offer. You'll realize that the article is clearly off its rocker. , Crysis is rendered on a much bigger scale than Killzone 2, with much more going on than Killzone 2 is this is why there's simply no other Graphical King than Crysis.

I still admire Killzone 2 very much, but this article is just engulfed in its own hype. Crysis blows Killzone 2 out of the water: there isn't much to debate about unless you want to compare sweat which is the only thing the article points out. Last time I checked, especially in the physics department: in Crysis, you can spawn 3,000 EXPLODING barrels or 5,000,000 Chickens and all would react to its physics properly, all with its own shadowing and proper lighting So let's break it down.

Physics? Crysis Wins
Detail? Debatable. (sweat really, c'mon. I can think of better ways why Killzone 2 stands up on its own)
Graphics? Crysis Wins( just being able to render that beautiful of a world on a geographic scale is automatic win already. If Layer of Depth(LoD) wasn't ever a consideration into graphical prowess: then I would argue that Gears 2 looks just as good as Killzone 2 because both can only render so much on screen, while I can fire a rocket in Crysis and it would go on forever and actually hit the nearby island that's a couple thousand feet away.)

I own a PS3, 360, and moderately powerful PC and I can still make this claim. Don't get too sucked in the Killzone 2 hype to forget that PCs will and always will surpass consoles in every way if developers step up. Crytek has clearly proved their talent with Crytek Engine 2 & Crysis and shouldn't be looked down upon just because the media decided to suck on GGs balls for the moment. Killzone 2 is definitely a great looking game and it achieves a hollywood style that's definitely respectable, but to compare Killzone 2 and Crysis together? Please...

The only thing Killzone 2 should be proud of is the fact that it looks so damn good that people are actually willing to compare Killzone 2 to Crysis, when the general consensus is that even Gears 2 cant' stand up to Crysis. The fact that the big PS3 game can be compared to a PC game is a merit on its own and that's what matters here.

@datruth
I thought about not posting this gigantic wall-o-text, but you know what? Why not? I know I should wait until the retail version is out: but the wait for Killzone 2 is killing me.

@Consoldtobots
I understand where you're coming at, however this isn't a debate about how the graphics are limited by how much we're willing to spend. It's a debate about graphics between Killzone 2 vs. Crysis period. If we were debating about the biggest bang for your graphical buck: then I'd clearly say Killzone 2 is the winner in all regards. However an article claims that one game looks better than the other, so money stops becoming a factor. We're comparing the best of integrities between 2 games. If we were to use your logic: then I'd argue that Gears 2 offers the biggest bang for your graphical buck because well...$200 Xbox 360 + $60 Gears of War 2 = $250.

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DaTruth - 348 days 6 hours ago

I saw a tech demo on my 14" low res screen and I was blown away by Crysis. Obviously the textures weren't there and the video was highly compressed and still I was blown away. The open world nature of Crysis and the insane amount of destructability beats down every game technically. So even with my little taste of Crysis I would have to say "no" Killzone does not compare to Crysis, but we should reserve our judgment for the final build as everyone says it looks far better than what we've seen thus far and what we've seen looks incredible.

P.S.You're getting upset at people comparing Killzone to Crysis and than you bring Gears(pop in textures) 2 into it. Gears 2 doesn't compare to Uncharted and you're placing it with Killzone and Crysis.

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Consoldtobots - 348 days 6 hours ago

you miss Fantasy Star is that while Crysis is an incredible game in and of itself, the hardware it runs on to it's full capacity is a RARITY. Meaning very few people are willing to build the rig it would take to run all those settings maxed at playable framerate. It would most likely be a dual or quad SLI setup meaning you would need to buy 4 top of the line graphics cards. That's about $2000 alone, nevermind the memory, peripherals and software you would need to do this.
The fact that a PS3 game is even generating a debate as to wether it looks better than Crysis speaks volumes about the power of a console Sony is currently selling for $400-$500 or better yet the price of just one of those graphics cards. Who will have their game played in it's true graphical glory by more people when it's all said and done? That's why PC vs console arguments are silly and way off point.

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The Killer - 348 days 6 hours ago

in graphics i think crysis looks more real but killzone 2 looks just better with all the light effects, its like CG game while crysis is like more realistic and more detailed but not better looking!

so i think people will vote for killzone 2 graphics!

and for physics i think crysis wins in that department but who said that physics is what makes the game more fun?? its good to gave realistic physics but in the difference is small and one game is better in many things then it wont matter.

gameplay clearly killzone 2 wins, i had Crysis on my pc, my pc is 3.6GHz intel CPU, nvidia 7800 GTX 265MB and 2GB RAM, and i barely run it on medium settings and the gameplay sucked so much that i removed it from my pc very before i had to fight the Aliens!

so this is what i think

graphics Crysis wins but Killzone 2 is better looking
physics Crysis wins but killzone 2 feels better
gameplay kilzzone 2 wins
story definitely Killzone 2 wins!

so i think in the overall Killzone 2 is much better!

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MazzingerZ - 348 days 6 hours ago

I've never cared about Crysis or whatever you can play on a PC because to get the best experience you need to upgrade every year...yeah games looks great but provided you count with certain specifications

I like consoles because you buy a piece of HW and games look every year better and better without you needing to do anything to the consoles, development is more standardiserad and devs can specialize and get the better from the HW as the time goes.

On the PC devs says, let's make this amazing game, you just need this much RAM, this type of card, etc to be able to run it...

I'd never compare Killzone 2 or MGS4 to a PC game but only against other games on the same console or the X360...now if Crysis runs on a PC you bought 2 years ago that hasn't been upgraded at all then I'd say Crysis is also a technical achievement.

Killzone 2 is a technical achievement that will just cause devs to put more effort and deliver better games...also it shows what the PS3 is capable of... MGS4, Uncharted, GT5P, Wipeout HD are not concidence or pure luck....after all, it seems the PS3's HW is not a "waste of time"

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TheExecutive - 348 days 6 hours ago

There is NO WAY it takes Crysis technically. I am sorry, it just doesnt. However, artistically? It takes it by a mile. I cant comment on the gameplay as I havent played either game.

Hype is ok guys, but take a step back and quit saying stupid sh*t. Crysis still takes it on the technical side. but I dont really care. Killzone 2 looks to be a better game...

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HighDefinition - 348 days 6 hours ago

When the the guy falls slowly and his shoulder hits the railing (right at the start) is the most realistic footage I`ve ever seen from a videogame. Crysis doesn`t do that. Crysis is a beautiful game, but I think Killzone2 is FAR more impressive.

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FantasyStar - 348 days 5 hours ago

It's just simply different details in different areas and it appeals to different people. Personally, I like how the rag-dolls work in Killzone 2. Physics-based calculations with a combination of mo-cap, hit-detection, and force application to render a realistic way of interacting with the environment is definitely a step forward for our industry. I would consider Crysis of being short in that respect but only because of Germany's strict censorship on violent acts depicted in video games: which is why Crytek took out the death rag-doll physics, so you can't beat em around after they're dead. (on paper anyways, community mods say otherwise)

P.S. - aww...I got de'bubbled.

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jammy_70 - 348 days 5 hours ago

yes gameplay is important but come on...the graphics is why we are all so bloody excited about this game!!!

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Danja - 348 days 4 hours ago

at first the graphics was what made every one excited , but after playing the Beta the gameplay is also really f-ing fun and intense and just left you wanting more...

so it's both graphics and gameplay...thats makes me want this game...

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hippo24 - 348 days 4 hours ago

Im sorry Killzone looks good (no doubt there) but Im almost positive that Crysis is better, just because of the relative technical specs of the PC and the Ps3. Its Hard for a console game to contend with a PC with ease of programing, and computing power.

While Im looking forward to Killzone 2, I don't think Im going to be as impressed as I was with Crysis.

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house - 348 days 3 hours ago

this game is great do really always do the thing where oh it looks better than this and that please its a good game and thats it

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Consoldtobots - 348 days 3 hours ago

some people just dont get it to the point of being obtuse. You can't argue tech specs because it doesn't take the software side of the argument into account. IMO developers haven't really begun to dig into what the cell processor can do along with the RSX. It may take them a few years to master new programming concepts to bring their visions to life. The payoff will be huge in the long run as Sony will have a solid platform to expand on into the future. The PS4 could simply have two cell broadband engines and the latest graphics card at the time and it would be all set to deliver amazing graphics from day one.

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Raptors - 348 days 3 hours ago

I admit, I was a non believer. Now, this game has brought me to my knees...I can no longer argue against it. February can't come soon enough.

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morganfell - 348 days 3 hours ago

Technically in some areas yes as well. GG availed themselves of the Cell's ability to do perform mathematical calculations at warp 9. Hence the bullet impact physics calculations that Crysis or Crysis Warhead cannot approach.

And as a 360 superfan if you are reduced to throwing a PC game at the PS3 that was known for crippling 95% of the PC rigs in the world then you have lost and should just go home.

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MNicholas - 348 days 2 hours ago

There are so many different parameters (from ROP output to bullet response to vertex transform to number of simultaneous real-time lights, and so on ...) that can be used to argue one way or another. Two well informed people could debate this for weeks.

Overall, Crysis has it's moments when it looks absolutely incredible and so does Killzone 2. I'd say Killzone 2 does an overall better job at being graphically consistent, interactively realistic (none of that floating gun nonsense), and generally more immersive and therefore takes the win.

Killzone 2 will probably have better sound as well.

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Ninja-Sama - 348 days ago

KZ2 is more appealing to me both visually and in terms of gameplay.

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evrfighter - 348 days ago

@ morganfell

You may think that comparing the two would make killzone 2 a great game just because its compared to crysis. But this isn't the media doing it. It's some blogger that nobody knows about. So in that respect the media isn't comparing killzone 2 to crysis because there's still so much of a gap it's not even funny.

If you wanna debate gameplay wise. Crysis is not a hard game to beat. There's a reason it only sold 84k in its first month. well two reasons actually. But no one I've met has said Crysis is the best game they've ever played.

This is why I said above. This article doesn't even warrant a comparison debate. Because Killzone 2 doesn't come close to what Crysis did visually. It's interesting to me that sony fans would take a some unknown blog and almost make it out to be the truth.

There's a reason you wont see this comparison in the media. To do so would make you the laughingstock of the tech industry.

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pain777pas - 348 days ago

The anger at the article is astounding. This is not a 360 debate. This is really what the author was really getting at was pointing out that a console game could be mistaken to be the best graphic game on the planet that's all. Just relax and drink a cold beverage we all know that PCs will always have better graphics but isn't it nice to congradulate an excellent dev team on a job well done?

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Shepherd 214 - 347 days 23 hours ago

please tell me you guys arnt serious?? please tell me this article is a joke??? Theres no way in the living gates of hell killzone 2 has better graphics than crysis, its not possible. Crysis maxed out on a PC destroys Killzone in ever sense of the word.

Not to mention, Crysis has enormous, dense jungles, gorgeous water visuals, rays of sun reflect off every leaf, the grainy sandy beaches and jungle canopy, rocks look ridged and coarse as can be, AI is superb, enemies faces are more detailed than any console game this generation can handle, and theres so much more.

KIllzone 2: Black, gray, gray, brown, gray, black, gray, black, brown.

this article is way out of proportion, jesus come back to reality

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iamtehpwn - 347 days 22 hours ago

Crysis had no ART direction at all.

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pixelsword - 347 days 21 hours ago

...because people were doing the same thing with HAZE before it came out, remember?

http://www.monky.ro/wp-cont...

Just wait until you see it with your own eyes, then judge.

Don't be so eager to let someone think for you.

As far as we know, this person could be doing it for hits to their website, just like some people will say Killzone 2 doesn't look better than the first Gears... for the hits.

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MazzingerZ - 347 days 20 hours ago

@pixelsword
"Just wait until you see it with your own eyes, then judge"

I won't judge...I know I'll cry, hug my PS3 and turn a candle to a Ken Kutaragi picture for his vision when designing the PS3 HWw...he's a genius!

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pixelsword - 347 days 19 hours ago

you get a bubble for that.

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Legion - 347 days 18 hours ago

Killzone 2 surpasses Crysis
President Obama owns a Wii - Nintendo start new world order
Sony talks up PS3 and sticks it to Wii, Xbox - Flamebait?
Qore gets PS3 exclusive demos - F.E.A.R 2
Xbox 360 LittleBigPlanet killer part of shift to casual market

This is what we get from this site all the time. Sensational claims to draw their crowd. Stop pandering to them.

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theox2g7 - 347 days 16 hours ago

You're wrong about sales but right about the stupidity of comparisons, Do some research, Crysis NPD results was 86k indeed, But guess what? That was only after 2 weeks from launch and the NPD doesn't even measure digital distribution that takes up a huge chunk of sales or better yet Europe where pc gaming is huge, You want proof? Check the German, French, Italian charts where pc games mostly dominate top selling lists, Those results were far from indicative about the game sales, What's even worse about those NPD results is that 2.5 weeks later, EA themselves came out named Crysis a commercial success due to hitting platinum sales in less than 50 days worldwide, And this didn't even add private digital distribution and Crysis wasn't even on Steam, Why do you think that Orange Box on pc outsold both console versions combined by a double digit percentage when Steam sales were added? Just so you know, the game Crysis hit 2 million before Q2 last million when some other independent digital retailers added in their figures, And sales are even higher now that it is on Steam with Warhead, Oh no, but these sales are bad yet some of you avidly defend LBP's sales and I concur with each of those arguments, Same case for Crysis, new franchise, 1 million in a short time worldwide = Sales success, Only difference is less people could play Crysis at launch compared to the 20 million ps3 owners who could for LBP, I don't even think 1 million people had rigs that could run high settings in fall 2007, yet it hit platinum quickly, That's pretty darn good if you ask me,

For those nitpicking its gameplay aspect saying its all graphics or that it isn't fun, try playing the game first, And if you wanna know why it sold well whiles Gears of War pc was abysmal, It's because Crysis was a pc game at heart, a breath of fresh air to shooters and the nanosuit was a nice innovation along with little immersion tweaks that made the overall experience what it is, There's nothing like smashing a north Korean through a building or throwing an exploding barrel at an approaching enemy boat to blow it up, Or even gunning down a chopper with a chain gun and seeing it crash and burn more North Koreans on the grounds thanks to the impressive open world physics, Just watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

That's why Gamespot gave it a 93 and it averages in 90s on all gameranking sites, It was a good game and you can't deny it, Just because you can't play it doesn't mean you should downplay it, Try beating the single player before making judgments instead of watching crappy youtube videos

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Consoldtobots - 347 days 15 hours ago

"@Consoldtobots
I understand where you're coming at, however this isn't a debate about how the graphics are limited by how much we're willing to spend. It's a debate about graphics between Killzone 2 vs. Crysis period. If we were debating about the biggest bang for your graphical buck: then I'd clearly say Killzone 2 is the winner in all regards. However an article claims that one game looks better than the other, so money stops becoming a factor. We're comparing the best of integrities between 2 games. If we were to use your logic: then I'd argue that Gears 2 offers the biggest bang for your graphical buck because well...$200 Xbox 360 + $60 Gears of War 2 = $250."

true but I haven't heard anyone comparing Gears to Crysis, not even close, THAT is the difference.

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HDgamer - 348 days 10 hours ago

If this is certainly true I think this game will be the new benchmark for this generation until GOW3 surpasses it.

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Ashton - 348 days 8 hours ago

kudos to them

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gameraxis - 348 days 3 hours ago

is farcry2... no way crytek is going to spend the time juicing every ounce of the ps3, there gonna do a calculation and say this is how good we can do it...

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Ju - 348 days 3 hours ago

I bet if others realize what benchmark KZ2 is, and it'll sell a couple of millions, some might reconsider their decision.

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badz149 - 348 days 8 hours ago

I can't wait plus I can't get the game straight away on 1st day because I'll nrd to buy it from ebay! argh!!

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eelnats2000 - 348 days 12 hours ago

will probably be the game to define the FPS genre.
Xbox fanboys, you should be happy this game is coming out.

If it werent for this game, other FPS' wont have competition.
If this game sets the tone for all games to come, you better hope microsoft comes up with a better one. And when that happens, Sony will unveil an even better game.

To be honest, we ALL should be happy about the console wars. More fun for us gamers with the expense of billions of dollars from MS and Sony.

Wheee

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Steven Colbert - 348 days 11 hours ago

I doubt KZ2 will make me think of it as an equal to Goldeneye 64,Halo 1,Timesplitters 2,Half-Life 2,battlefield 2,or Call of Duty 4.

I'm just telling you guys to be cautious

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GiantEnemyLobster - 348 days 11 hours ago

Looks like it belongs on the Nintendo 64. Graphics surpass Crysis? LMAO how do you do that with only 256mb RAM haha.

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Steven Colbert - 348 days 11 hours ago

edit:nevermind

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Jager - 348 days 11 hours ago

@ Giant

*Headbangs Desk*

PS3

256MB of DDR2 800MHz
256MB of XDR 3.2GHz

Total: 512MB

360

512MB of DDR2 800MHz

Total: 512MB

Ps3's XDR is however, better then DDR2

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eelnats2000 - 348 days 11 hours ago

are you serious?
Do you really want to make yourself look like a complete fool?
You're actually going to compare killzone 2 with games from the Nintendo 64?!

HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA

and to top it off, you were hoping you were right about the ps3's memory, but yet again, you end up looking really stupid.

You just made my day

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PoSTedUP - 348 days 11 hours ago

eelnats... jager.... yall really responded to that didnt yall. *sigh*

word of advice; ignorant people dont give a f***! its like explaining something to a wall.... please, dont waste your time. just helping yall out.

"you were hoping you were right about the ps3's memory" lol!! u really think that? cmon man : /

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Sir_Ken_Kutaragi - 348 days 7 hours ago

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Rs - 348 days 6 hours ago

Why do all the xbots sound so stupid!? xbots, get some fix! What? Warranty over!? About time to take a walk into the dumpster where ya belong!

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achira - 348 days 6 hours ago

sorry but the water effects in crysis are poor. i think all the effects are better in killzone2. killzone is better, and i have played both games already. btw the dying animations in crysis suck.

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morganfell - 348 days 3 hours ago

I still have my N64 with Goldeneye hooked to my PC flatscreen. Quite honestly it's time to stop talking about Goldeneye like it is still a great shooter. It is fun and it broke a lot of ground but by today's standards it is an N64 game with spawning enemies, massive numbers of trigger points, a linear campaign, far outdated graphics, a clumsy control scheme induced by the controller, etc etc etc ad nauseum.

I love it and PD but it's day has come and gone. And BF2 as a memorable title? Give me a frackin' break.

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GiantEnemyLobster - 348 days ago

This idiot has it all wrong.

XDR is better than DDR2 SRAM.

But guess what? The 360 has 512mb of GDDR3. GDDR3>XDR>

The PS3 DOES have 256mb of GDDR3, not DDR2 you idiot. But last time I checked, 512mb of GDDR3 is better than 256mb of GDDR3 and 256mb of that crappy XDR.

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byaaface - 347 days 23 hours ago

conversations like this make me hate News4Fanboys soooooo much... DX

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Wiimaniac - 347 days 23 hours ago

PC's need a lot of ram because they run a lot of procedures, consoles aren't computers and they were specifically created to play games not to edit photos and all that crap a PC does.

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ReTarDedFisHy - 347 days 22 hours ago

The 360's 512MB GDDR3 RAM runs at a 700MHz crawl.
The PS3's 256MB main XDR runs at 3.2GHz, almost 5 times faster.

So, the 360's shared 512MB GDDR3 RAM - 700MHz
And, the PS3's dedicated 256MB GDDR3 VRAM - 700MHz
Plus, the PS3's main 256MB XDR RAM - 3.2GHz

View the Attached Image. Try not to cry.
You lose again, Crab. Try harder next time.

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GiantEnemyLobster - 347 days 22 hours ago

That XDR is for "teh cell". And guess what? 32MB of it is for the XMB menu lmao. So guess what? You only get -up to' 480MB ram for gaming AHAHAH FAIL.

Don't even bother replying, just pretend you didn't read this to save yourself the embarrassment.

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ReTarDedFisHy - 347 days 21 hours ago

Embarrassment? You're the one that should be embarrassed.

First of all, are you REALLY trying to imply that the Cell doesn't contribute anything to how Killzone 2 looks? The stupidity.

Second of all, you're the one that said that XDR was crap, and that GDDR3 was better. I disproved that. You were owned. STFU.

Third of all, the XMB requires 64MB of XDR RAM and 32MB of the GDDR3 VRAM. So that leaves less RAM available. But so what?

Honestly, why are you saying that the PS3 has so little RAM? Does it matter? Apparently not. Look at Killzone 2, Uncharted 2 and Heavy Rain. The PS3 has so little RAM, yet it can produce visuals miles better than the 360? WTF? What are you saying? That the PS3 doesn't need RAM to prduce "Holy SH*T" visuals? Really. Where are you going with this.

You lose again, Crab. Try harder next time.

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GiantEnemyLobster - 347 days 19 hours ago

You are a helpless basket case.

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ReTarDedFisHy - 347 days 17 hours ago

Is that all you can say? Too afraid to say something utterly idiotic this time that you THINK are facts? Really? That's it? This is how you use your last bubble? C'mon. I expected more of you, Crab.

You lose again, Crab. Try harder next time.

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Consoldtobots - 347 days 14 hours ago

thats some of the biggest ownage I've ever seen on an internet forum.
Maybe lobster should retire his account because any honorable man would not show his face after being humiliated like that.

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dukadork2 - 348 days 9 hours ago

here's some tissue for the tears today and the wet dreams tonight

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA!

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Tiberium - 347 days 22 hours ago

Sorry, whoever made this story is an complete idiot. Crysis goes for realism not style. And killzone 2 looks cartoony compared to crysis. PC will always be the graphics king.

http://pc.ign.com/dor/objec...

vs.

http://ps3.ign.com/dor/obje...

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monitor - 348 days 1 hour ago

yea they both sucking ass in sales

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Helghast Slayer - 347 days 21 hours ago

F#cking noob. That's the only argument you xf#gs only have. Sales don't mean sh!t when your game is a turd lol. Go chuck that Sh!tBoxPleaseFixMe in the dumpstar and upgrade to a superior tech. Even the Wii doesn't use a disk tray for christs sake LMFAO.

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monitor - 347 days 16 hours ago

but yet the wii is raping both ms and sony hard. sales may mean nothing to you, but the publisher and developer it does. If it doesnt sell then theres no need to continue to make games or it closes down.Idiot.

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nycredude - 342 days 1 hour ago

So which one are you? You a developer or are you a publisher? I only ask because by your comments you obviously aren't a gamer. you seem to care alot about sales. Which is it?

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ps12&3lover - 348 days 8 hours ago

well both games are diffrent.k2 is a darker setting than cyrsis. its easier to say cyrsis looks better cuz its brighter and more appealing but i like the dark look.

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DeathroW22 - 348 days 6 hours ago

http://www.psu.com/New-Kill...

http://ps3.psu.com/New-Kill...

These are just off the _ONLINE_ beta, and people with review code have said that they have improved so much, it is like comparing the pre-alpha code to the final code.

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Graphics Whore - 348 days 3 hours ago

Oh man Judder, think before you speak buddy.

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ps12&3lover - 348 days 7 hours ago

what about mgs4..that was the hottest looking game i have seen so far..but killzone just melts the eyes. finally a fps that acutally shows some realistic death..i love how they look when getting shot at..have not seen it done this good since golden eye for 64..

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achira - 348 days 6 hours ago

why do you always care for sales ? is this your last excuse ? boooriing... its your fault, that you cant play the best fps ever, only on ps3!

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ultimolu - 348 days 4 hours ago

Sales doesn't make a game great.
Playing the game for yourself and determining whether it sucks or not determines a great game.

KILLZONE 2 AHOY!

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liquidsnake - 348 days 4 hours ago

HAHAH look at this stupid @ss bots. It's official ladies and gentlemen. Sony and PS3 has won again. The amount of quality games on PS3 is nowhere to be seen and all the bots have left now is sales. I wonder how long it'll take until they run out of that too.

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