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GamesRadar: Stabbing Through Killzone 2

Like most of the gaming press, GamesRadar has been taking some time lately to trudge through a pre-release copy of Killzone 2, and – in a shocking twist for a game that's under tremendous pressure to be good – it's pretty good. However, in their early attempts to play the game berserker he-man style (usually tantamount to suicide in any shooter that features a "cover" button), they found an interesting flaw that pops up mainly in Killzone 2's early levels.

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Powertesties - 349 days 6 hours ago

1 - All I can say.....

is that I want it!

GIVE ME KILLZONE. I mean, give US Killzone!

Remind me not to play like that when I first get the game. Hahaha
I am sure they didn't expect players to run around with a knife and stab everyone to death. The enemy is probably thinking he is so funking retarded they don't know if they should feed him or shoot him.

Also, it looks like we will be playing it on hard people! Your health regenerates much quicker than in the MP.

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PoSTedUP - 349 days 6 hours ago

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looks like i am going to play this game on HARD.

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marinelife9 - 349 days 5 hours ago

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I made it all the way through Bioshock with just the wrench as a weapon.

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AclayPS3 - 349 days 5 hours ago

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I watched the video, and I really don't see what the big deal is. From what I saw, on Normal Difficulty, Killzone 2's A.I. is pretty brilliant. Killzone 2's A.I. on Normal Difficulty is like Night and Day compared to Killzone 1's A.I. though, and I own KZ1, so I know.

The majority of the enemies that did nothing when the guy playing approached them with the knife where either engaging another target, turned in the opposite direction, or where surprised when he came around a corner and probably didn't have much time to react.

I would love to see that guy attempt that on Hard Difficulty in Killzone 2, because he probably wouldn't get far.

Usually I always go through a game on Normal Difficulty, then attempt a harder difficulty mode, but I'll probably be playing Killzone 2 on Hard difficulty first, and if there is a Very Hard difficulty, I'll beat the game on Very Hard as well because that's something I always do.

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NewZealander - 349 days 5 hours ago

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kinda reminds me of how easy turok on ps3/360 was useing the knife

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airheadluffy - 349 days 5 hours ago

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he did say that this will get you killed in the later levels. he also died in the last part. from what ive seen the AI is pretty good. they just dont move fast so he just ran at them and knifed them.

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donator - 349 days 5 hours ago

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My friend and I beat some of the harder parts in Gears of War with chainsaw rushing. That was really fun so I hope the knife rushing in KZ2 is also.

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Silver360 - 349 days 5 hours ago

1.7 - kinda turns Sean Connery's words around

If he brings a knife you bring a gun. Oh no not in Killzone if he brings a gun you whop his butt with your knife.

Edit ref: Untouchables

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SRU9600 - 349 days 5 hours ago

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Some of you guys must be getting very dizzy, because you are trying to spin this one REALLY hard. lol

The A.I. in Killzone 2 is lame. Stop pretending that it's not and just deal with it.

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FrankenLife - 349 days 4 hours ago

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Game like a man. Play on Hard

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shawnsl65 - 348 days 17 hours ago

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no one's spinning anything, have you even played the game yet? that's right you haven't so stfu end of story.

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butterfinger - 348 days 13 hours ago

1.11 - LMAO

I can do the same thing in COD4 and W@W.

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OmegaFool - 348 days 10 hours ago

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PS3 sucks

Gears 2 looks better than KillZone 2

Sales=Quality

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Fishy Fingers - 349 days 6 hours ago

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Ha, that's great, must be on a easy difficulty setting. Your health regenerates much quicker than in the MP.

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happyface - 349 days 5 hours ago

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did you even read it? reading comprehension ftw?

he said NORMAL diff

stay in school

edit: awesome disagrees, because broken AI is awesome! and not being able to read that the author recorded the video on NORMAL is awesome!

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Fishy Fingers - 349 days 5 hours ago

2.2 - ^

Actually my edit on my comment below apologizes for not noticing, sorry I was skim reading and more interested in the video. It was to late to edit this post. Did it require the tantrum on your part?

We all make mistakes.

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airheadluffy - 349 days 5 hours ago

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the AI isnt broken. the only problem with it is just they dont move fast. if you watch the video if they see they will do something but he just ran at them so because they didnt move fast they got knifed. he said this is an excellent way of getting killed in later levels though. he almost got killed a couple times too.

to me the AI is like CoD. I ran through the first level of W@W knifing, but i did die a couple of times.

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C_SoL - 349 days 2 hours ago

2.4 - I see that happyface doesn't understand.........

that there's a casual market out there.

Anybody can play this game.

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mfwahwah - 348 days 7 hours ago

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@2.1

You may complain about reading comprehension all you want, but you obviously have no inference skills whatsoever. The AI is broken? Rewatch the video. I won't spoon feed you why the AI is good, since you'll never learn that way. It does have its flaws, but it is in no way broken.

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Cajun Chicken - 349 days 6 hours ago

3 - I would play this as a MODE.

After completing the game once, this should be a mode to play through, only using the knife and have it like Time Crisis and get 3 seconds for each kill, that could be awesome, a run through the whole level slasher-style.

Hopefully this definate oversight will be sorted before release, I'm pretty sure its not meant to be like this...

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trancefreak - 349 days 6 hours ago

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ya wtf thats really to easy lol. I want to be pinned down fighting my way threw it

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Ju - 349 days 5 hours ago

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Why is this an oversight ? It just shows how dynamic the AI is. He refers to "early levels", you know, where they send in these poor guys being cannon fodder. They are expected to get killed (as sad as this sounds). Ever had AI guys in a game being to stupid that they can actually be surprised by what you are doing ?

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zethos56 - 349 days 4 hours ago

3.3 - ^^^

You've got be to joking. Even if they were sent in to die they wouldn't be THAT stupid.

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Marquis_de_Sade - 348 days 16 hours ago

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Ju, I think that's expecting a bit too much from the AI in KZ2.

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Graphics Whore - 349 days 6 hours ago

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I don't want to read anything GamesRadar has to say about Killzone 2 after that almost embarrassing prediction article they wrote a day or two ago.

They played a whole 5 levels/2 hours.

Edit: A good sense of neutrality would be telling your visitors the level of difficulty this is exhibited on.

I don't trust GamesRader at all so.

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Cajun Chicken - 349 days 6 hours ago

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I'd admit, this is a bit of an issue.

Watch the vid.

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MIKEY1223 - 349 days 5 hours ago

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it said that they were playing on normal

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mfwahwah - 348 days 7 hours ago

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That article was GamesRadar UK. This one is GamesRadar US. Different authors = different opinions. Don't judge a whole website by one author's opinion on ONE game.

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SeanScythe - 349 days 6 hours ago

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I did that on COD5 on many of the easy first levels. Did't ruin the game for me, just upped the difficulty.

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Fishy Fingers - 349 days 6 hours ago

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Yeah one of the trophies/achievements is to complete a level on normal or harder with only melee and nades. I think.

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SeanScythe - 349 days 6 hours ago

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Yeah and in the video he got a trophy it was to small to tell what for. I bet he will wish he got some training with the gun in single player before he jumps online and trys that crap.

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Fishy Fingers - 349 days 6 hours ago

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Yeah I noticed that, in the warehouse. I guess 10 knife kills or something. Still he doesn't mention what difficulty he had it set to. "Noob easy" no doubt, still like you said, if the sucker tries that tactic online he's gonna get pwned.

Edit: Opps yeah, states normal. My bad for scim reading.

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Marceles - 349 days 5 hours ago

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lol @ disagrees "buh buh its killzone..not cod5...buh buh forget trophies...buh buh awww" (gives up)

Anyone who is going for 100% is gonna put it on the hardest difficulty anyway. I don't know why NON-PS3 owners are starting to act like they care so much

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mfwahwah - 348 days 7 hours ago

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The trophy I saw him get was to kill 5 Helghast in 15 seconds.

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FreedomReign - 348 days 6 hours ago

5.6 - I was going to buy this day one

but after that little video, I have to wait and see the reviews. It may hit the Used game shelves faster than you can say GTA4.

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infamousXX87XX - 349 days 6 hours ago

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just put the difficulty on HARD....simple as that

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OOG - 349 days 6 hours ago

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meh I play all my games on hard anyway...so that should up the challenge for me

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LeonSKennedy4Life - 349 days 5 hours ago

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They're on easy.

It takes 1.5 times longer for a Helghast soldier to melee you AND to adjust for proximity on easy, as compared to hard.

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Wile - 349 days 5 hours ago

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If you read the article it says it is on normal.

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LeonSKennedy4Life - 348 days 10 hours ago

8.3 - Yeah

I'm not saying Killzone 2 won't have its faults, but unless Guerrilla made the game easier...that's on easy mode.

Check videos for reference.

"Don't question a mercenary during the war. They hold no stock in either camp."

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Wile - 347 days 7 hours ago

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"I'm not saying Killzone 2 won't have its faults, but unless Guerrilla made the game easier...that's on easy mode."

No one accused you of saying that Killzone 2 will be perfect. Again you are speculating.

"Check videos for reference."

A long shot at best.

"Don't question a mercenary during the war. They hold no stock in either camp."

LOL, you are no mercenary! Judging from your comment history you happily hold all your stock in one camp.

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ErcsYou - 349 days 5 hours ago

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Cool, sounds like fun... i actually beat a couple of levels in Dead Space using only the melee and stasis..

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CrippleH - 349 days 5 hours ago

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I'm not giving them any hits.

They are KZ2 trolls.

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heyheyhey - 349 days 5 hours ago

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i wouldn't want to do that anyway... the guns feel so satisfying to fire that i would spend every minute blasting Helghast.. might get a knife kill or two in there just for variation

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PMantix - 349 days 5 hours ago

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Doesn't seem like an AI problem... other than not going full auto on you at close range. Most of the kills were 'stealth' kills or flank kill anyway. I'd say the AI was mostly doing the right thing.

if anything, I'd say adjust how many times you can be shot without dying. Or play on a more difficult setting from the get-go.

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resistance100 - 349 days 5 hours ago

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The only way they can do that is because they are on easy, health didn't recharge that quick on the beta.

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Ju - 349 days 5 hours ago

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I think that's actually pretty cool. I mean, in that video, you get the feeling these guys are seriously surprised that there's someone running around with a knife in a gun fight :) Doesn't help, that Sev can take a couple of bullets, they obviously didn't know that either, heh. But AI response looks pretty cool, LOL. Now that everybody knows, I'd expect a run-n-knife style game.

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Fishy Fingers - 349 days 5 hours ago

12.3 - ^

Ju, I'll see you on the battlefield..

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Beg For Mercy - 349 days 5 hours ago

1 - ok

what professional website would do this its just stupid its seems like they are trying anything to say something negative about it

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resistance100 - 349 days 5 hours ago

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Still to there credit they aren't saying this is a bad thing at all.

"Whatever the case, it’s just brutally gratifying enough that we’ve decided we don’t really have a problem with it."

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Kleptic - 349 days 5 hours ago

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personally I think the knife is kind of pointless anyway...as you already have the melee combos (they are not one hit, but you can string them together)...

I guess the weapons weakness is that you have to select it with the d-pad, rather than just pulling it out CoD style for the attack...

whatever though...he still gets killed in the first level at the end of the video...and its not something that would be hard for GG to tweak...just make the knife slower to swing or something, or a little less powerful...but yeah, its something also that looks like it would only work in the first level...even the second level (blood meridian) has parts where you would get completely surrounded...

I still say the knife overall is kind of pointless...you don't even have it in multiplayer...just get rid of the thing...the gun butt hits are just as brutally awesome...

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Foliage - 348 days 22 hours ago

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They really are reaching to try and find a flaw in this game. These reviews that Killzone 2 will receive will be some of the funniest yet.

He tries to complain about some flaw where you can just use a knife to "Stab through Killzone 2". Then he mentions how he is playing one of the easier difficulties (normal) and can't even manage to make it through the first level using this tactic. What a waste when he could be focusing on so much more this game offers.

And when was it ever considered a run through when he doesn't even make it through the first level? Is this guy new to gaming?

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Beg For Mercy - 349 days 5 hours ago

2 - yeah

hopefully resistance hey dont reflect this in there review though

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resistance100 - 349 days 5 hours ago

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Well it depends if GamesRader do the review or not. If they don't have a review copy in time, they just nab the review off one of there sister Magazines.

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Kleptic - 349 days 5 hours ago

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that is the review code though...that is the full game...GG has plenty of time to tweak that for release...but I don't think there are other versions being sent to reviewers anymore...

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Beg For Mercy - 349 days 5 hours ago

4 - dude`

why do you even waste your time

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NegativeCreep427 - 349 days 5 hours ago

5 - This may be addressed by the final build

But regardless, having learned the different strategic, tactical gameplay approach that Killzone 2 has over other shooters like COD4 and Resistance 2 I've always told myself I would play KZ2 on Hard the very first day I play it.

The feeling of accomplishment with that type of gameplay, I feel, will be greater if played under the hardest difficulty.

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TheMART at Xboxkings - 349 days 4 hours ago

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o_O

Game is looking pretty but gameplay is bad? Mmmhhhh sounds like KZ1 all over again. Running around with a knife and the enemy doesn't even react. NICE

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Beg For Mercy - 349 days 4 hours ago

6.1 - yeah

but ya gotta thing like a gamer and not a xbot and play the game like its meant to be played its so funny watching you guys hate on this game it really is and hey ehat games are you playin gears of broken fables which one of the failing games you are playing

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Foliage - 348 days 22 hours ago

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The gameplay is Effin unbelievable. Where did you get those "facts" from? Until you play it, don't trust the reviewer spin this game will receive.

Oh it's the Mart, you have no facts just xbot spin. If I knew it was you I would not have signed in.

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snipermk0 - 349 days 3 hours ago

7.1 - ^^

you're pretty much accomplishing that minus the KZ2 avatar.

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Elvfam511 - 348 days 10 hours ago

7.2 - @austere

just like this guy right

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liquidsnake - 348 days 15 hours ago

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It's not the AI who is bad, I mean almost every enemy he cuts has been cought off guard. Perhaps they could make Sev a little easier to kill.

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ph3lid - 348 days 14 hours ago

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lol@KZ2

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Magic_The_Celt - 348 days 14 hours ago

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Knife animations could be better, much better

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