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Killzone 2 floors Insomniac community manager JStevenson

Killzone 2 has floored JStevenson - community manager at Insomniac games. This is what he had to say regarding the game:-

"I did indeed beat KZ2 tonight and it is indeed awesome. I know there will be plenty of comments, opinions, accolades and nitpicks, but for me, the game was fun.

My favorite part of the game was when you get this certain weapon. I really really love it and I got the trophy for oh so fast - wish it was available more.

Anyways --- major props to all the folks at GG. "

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NOTE : Insomniac and SONY's Santa Monica studio helped Guerilla to build the AI algorithms of Killzone 2

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Ninja-Sama - 359 days 20 hours ago

1 - Expecting great things from KZ2...

but on another note, would it be possible for Insomniac to use the KZ2 engine for R3? If they could that would be so awesome...

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silverchode - 359 days 20 hours ago

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that would be like halo 4 looking like kz2, i think that insomniac would keep r3 like the resistance games b4

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Lord Anubis - 359 days 19 hours ago

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sony's first party devs share technology. there's probably Insomniac technology in Kllzn2 and it's more likely guerilla has already shared technology back to insomniac. esp the lighting.

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silverchode - 359 days 19 hours ago

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i know they share the technology, im just saying that i dont think insomniac would completely change the way resistance looks.

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soljah - 359 days 19 hours ago

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actually Sony investing so much into gg and kz2 has a dual purpose.
1 to develop the defining next gen fps on any system
2 let gg and their team of engineers develop the technology that will be seen in future ps3 titles for years to come.

the game has been in development since 05 but it is the tool sets and new routines and ps3 tech that will be the real shining star from gg and the game that is kill zone II

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superaktieboy - 359 days 17 hours ago

1.5 - Well

Seb Downie (QA Manager - Guerrilla Games) says no comment of sharing the technology for first party, so we could assume that it will be used, since they usually say no comment but then it is true lol

http://boardsus.playstation...

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EXCLUSIVEGAMER - 359 days 14 hours ago

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im buying this twice.

1 for me and one for my friend (friend doesnt have alot of money):)

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Alcon - 359 days 14 hours ago

1.7 -

@ EXCLUSIVEGAMER: I wish I had friends as generous as you man! that's a real nice present you'll make. bubble to you!

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acedoh - 359 days 12 hours ago

1.8 - This is the game

that made me believe in the PS3. From the very first appearance over 3 years ago to now. For most who buy this game it will be their first Killzone game and I think most will be more than pleased to have the flagship shooter of the PS3...

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Proxy - 359 days 9 hours ago

1.9 - Insomniac is a real class act...

They seem to always have nice and respectable things to say.

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LONEWOLF231 - 359 days 7 hours ago

1.10 -

@EXCLUSIVEGAMER

Thats awesome dude, the gaming community needs more peeps like you man.
Bubbles for you my friend.

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BleuStreeks - 359 days 7 hours ago

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day one purchase for me and I will call out of work when it comes out as well.

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xwabbit - 359 days 3 hours ago

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This game will rape :P

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MURKERR - 359 days 20 hours ago

2 - nitpicking= are just haters who cant really find fault

but need to be negative coz it burns,great example..1up who said 'i dont like the helgans eyes' they said it in a way where it must ruin the experience so points need to be deducted lol

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Gambit07 - 359 days 19 hours ago

2.1 -

They also said Helghans butt cheeks are too pimply, so that's one more score reduction.

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MURKERR - 359 days 19 hours ago

2.2 - lol.and didnt they talk about sevs hair? cant remember but

youd think if it had poor collision detection,framerate etc that would be sutin to get points deducted...like i said 1up nitpicking thats how you know the games sick

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Graphics Whore - 359 days 20 hours ago

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I can't wait.

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Gambit07 - 359 days 19 hours ago

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I wouldn't call it floored him, he just said it was fun.

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pixelsword - 359 days 19 hours ago

4.1 - "I did indeed beat KZ2 tonight and it is indeed awesome."

Hmm...

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chrisnick - 359 days 19 hours ago

5 - ........SERIOUSLY???

brb guys......i've got something to pre-order.

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Killzonegamer83 - 359 days 19 hours ago

6 - Ok

I think we all pretty much know this game is gold and is finished, they just havent announced it yet.. WHY do they have to wait until the tail end of FEB to release it?! I want this game so bad

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KillaManiac - 359 days 18 hours ago

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Prob just bugtesting and doing alot of online closed doors final testing.

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rogimusprime - 359 days 18 hours ago

6.2 - good point....

hopefully the wait is for sony to get their ad campaign together.

Why do they suck so bad at promoting the PS3 AAA (supposedly) titles?
I can't remember how many commercials I saw back in the day for old PSone games like battle arena toshinden and bushido blade, but now that every games takes 10's of millions to make...

...sony seems to not push the games like they should.

I learned in college marketing jobs were hard to come by...but I still don't see why. I could sell Killzone 2 faster than Amy Winehouse can make a man sober.

but I digress, this game can't come soon enough!

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snipermk0 - 359 days 17 hours ago

6.3 - ^^^^

Well, that's probably because Sony is broke by the time they are finished investing 10s of millions of dollars that they haven't got enough left for ad campaigns. LOL :P

On another note, sony would really need to promote this game.. And I mean heavily!

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Sarcasm - 359 days 15 hours ago

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Don't rush to get it now, or else we'll end up with another SOCOM for online issues.

WHEN IT'S DONE, IT'S DONE. Then that's when it should be released.

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micro_invader - 359 days 12 hours ago

6.5 -

I think they're holding it off a bit to release it in the dry season, ensuring maximum sales.

I agree they should be marketing it more heavily, this close to launch.

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IWentBrokeForGaming - 359 days 19 hours ago

7 - This is what I've got to say

Resistance can't compare to Killzone in graphics, but I personally see originality going to Resistance!

Both are great PS3 exclusive titles, for what they respectivley do!

And although I'd absolutely love to see Killzone pave the way of next gen console graphics... I don't want the exact engine to be w#ored out like the Unreal Engine like it's some kind of novelty. Cause if that would happen, it would make Killzone way less special than it is now... and would definatley take away from the initial impact Killzone already has on the console gaming community!

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360RRODFIX - 359 days 15 hours ago

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Yeah sine aliens invading Earth is such a fresh and new subject, no one has ever done that before in game or eve movies /roll eyes

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Boty - 359 days 15 hours ago

7.2 - @ Above ME

The "things" in Resestance arn't aliens in terms of like HALO. There people who got a virus.(Like a nasty Flu. A REAL NASTY FLU!)LOL

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gameraxis - 359 days 10 hours ago

7.3 - here's the thing though

just because it comes from the same engine doesn't mean it'll look anything like killzone 2, picture a TOTALLY different art style, with Chimeara, and sci-fi weapons of resistance just looking as good as K2...

Infinite I looked NOTHING like gears or army of two... see what i'm saying??

insomniac could use emphasis on entirely different engine tools, and that alone would make it look different

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Ju - 359 days 3 hours ago

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I think the only thing missing in R2 was time. Time to polish it all the way thru. There are moments in the game which look absolutely gorgeous. And then some seamed to be rushed thru. Add a little bit polish, maybe add the deferred renderer (I think the do a lot of geometry processing already to make 200K monsters work), and there you go. I believe (if they'll do it) R3 will match (or even surpass) KZ2. KZ2 is not the end of the line, there is more possible down the road.

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SmokingMonkey - 359 days 19 hours ago

8 - awesome

Sony games are the best...it's true

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billez - 359 days 19 hours ago

9 - OFF TOPIC:

wats the difference between a 1st and 2nd party dev.???

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firelogic - 359 days 19 hours ago

9.1 - Well

First party is in-house or a developer that the studio owns.
Second-party is a company that is independent but is contracted and primarily works for the one console.
Third party is a company like Capcom or Bethesda that makes games for all platforms.

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Gambit07 - 359 days 19 hours ago

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1st party developers are owned by the console maker, 2nd party are the developers that only work with a certain console maker but are not owned by them.

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Ramzadel - 359 days 19 hours ago

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I think a first party developer only can make games for the company they work for and the IP's they make belong to that company

2nd party developers are more freelance and can make games on other systems but the IP's they make for one company can only be made for that one company if that one company publishes it

Example, Insomniac is 2nd party so they can make a game on 360 but can't make another Ratchet game for 360 as Sony owns the IP

I don't know if this is all right better check google =)

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orakga - 359 days 17 hours ago

9.4 - hmmm

well... here's the wiki definition of 2nd party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

BUT, the term "2nd party" is not really a real term (the wiki page notes this as well). It's the same reason why first-person shooters and third-person shooters exist, but not second-person shooters. (okay i botched that analogy, but still)

Only 1st party and 3rd party are commonly accepted terms, and the distinction is quite simple:

<imagine the following as a statement by Sony/MS/Nin>
- 1st party: I/We made the game
- 3rd party: Someone else made the game

So, if the game was made by the hardware manufacturer (or someone who is owned by the manufacturer), it would be considered a 1st party title. But if the hardware manufacturer did not have a controlling stake in the developing company, it would be considered a 3rd party software.

2nd party is just a term that was sort of made up to help refer to those titles that fall in between, but they are still technically 3rd party titles unless the development contract did somehow involve some form of acquisition by the console/hardware manufacturer.

So, regardless of whether a developer creates games exclusively for one hardware or for all consoles, if it is not owned by the hardware manufacturer itself, it is a 3rd party developer/publisher, and everything they produce would be considered 3rd party software, regardless of platform or exclusivity.

Therefore, unless Sony actually OWNS Guerilla Games, KZ2 is a 3rd party software. Same applies to Insomniac and R2. And Media Molecule and LBP. If I'm not mistaken, Sony has no controlling stake in any of those companies, so all of those games are 3rd party titles (unless someone can kindly correct me).

And that would actually explain why their marketing efforts have been so poor. (just look at how marketing efforts differ between 1st party titles (Mario, etc) and 3rd party titles (Boom Blox, etc) on the Wii, and you'll get the idea)

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Now, if you really want to get technical... you could imagine a scenario where Sony produces a game for the PS3 but then also releases it on the 360 and/or Wii (this would most likely never happen for obvious reasons). Still, if this ever happened, this title would be considered a 1st party title for any Sony console, but a 3rd party for the 360 and Wii.

But who am I kidding. That would never happen.

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thebudgetgamer - 359 days 17 hours ago

9.5 - too complicated people

naughty dog 1st party owned by sony
insomniac 2nd party not owned by sony but makes games only for sony
kojima prod 3rd party makes games for anyone

:)

edit: above you mean like people said sonic would never end up on a nintendo?

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orakga - 359 days 9 hours ago

9.6 - @ budgetgamer

Sega did not release Sonic on any other system until their hardware division was killed.

Therefore, by the time Sonic came out on Nintendo/Microsoft/Sony's system's Sega itself was no longer a console manufacturer, making it just another 3rd party developer.

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cayal - 359 days 18 hours ago

10 -

Damn I want this game! Now!

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Bob Dole - 359 days 18 hours ago

10.1 -

Bob Dole too :)

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ShinFuYux - 359 days 18 hours ago

11 - I'm having the LBP syndrom

People say it's an amazing game but I'm not completely sold until I get a demo or see something so new an spectacular like FarCry2 did (I was sold when they showed the dunia engine).

Right now, I Sony hasn't released LBP demo nor does the LBP commercials sell me.

For Killzone 2, what makes this game so much better than R2 or FarCry2? My impression of it, right now, is "it's another FPS game using the same stuff as every other FPS game."

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Bob Dole - 359 days 18 hours ago

11.1 -

Rent it.

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IWentBrokeForGaming - 359 days 18 hours ago

11.2 - Im pretty sure you can count on

Killzone 2 having more quality invested in it than Farcry 2, especially because Killzone 2 carries more weight to deliver something graphically that we've never done on a console before, on its shoulder than ANY console game this gen. Something that beyond fact Farcry 2 didn't have to even begin to worry about!

If you were impressed with Farcry 2, I find it too hard to believe that you aren't impressed with KZ2!

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Sarcasm - 359 days 15 hours ago

11.3 -

"If you were impressed with Farcry 2, I find it too hard to believe that you aren't impressed with KZ2! "

Seriously.

It's like saying "I'm not impressed seeing God. I've seen Jesus already"

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himdeel - 359 days 10 hours ago

11.4 - Bubbles for Sarcasm...

...on the God and Jesus comment. It got me to chuckle.

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ronando - 359 days 7 hours ago

11.5 - LBP Problem? Go to Blockbuster!

My friend,

your sceptisism of LittleBigPlanet will immediately be addressed once you either purchase the game, or atleast rent it. LBP would not make a good demo as their are so many aspects that can't be summed up in a 10 minute experience. It's truly a unique and incredible game, the best I've played since the likes of Mario Bros. 3 (truly legendary).

If your a person who appreciates creativity and loves a challenge, LBP is for you! Trust me, this game makes Tim Burton look like an accountant.

As for Killzone 2, trust the redundant, over written articles that appear every single day. This game is going to set the bar, high enough that the current competition won't be able to touch it. Don't spoil the anticiaption with a silly demo and shotty Youtube footage, go to your local game store on Feb 27th!

Good luck, my friend!

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Ju - 359 days 3 hours ago

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I am surprised that you are impressed by FC2. Nice game, but nothing to be impressed about, IMO. R2 is way more fun, more scale, more impressive already.

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sinncross - 359 days 18 hours ago

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Wow, I can seriously see the next title that uses the Killzone 2 engine (perhaps R3) to be able to incorporate split screen multi player.

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mrsatan - 359 days 18 hours ago

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I read a comment from the devs that they are thinking of adding in coop mode. Not sure if that means split screen or not. The engine may not handle split screen well.

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Kotaku_Succs - 359 days 20 hours ago

1 - feb 27 is tooo far away :(

But we will be playing the best FPS ever made

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Sheddi - 359 days 20 hours ago

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I thought the release date was 25th feb?

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Max Power - 359 days 20 hours ago

1.2 - sheddi...

the 25th is for europe, the 27th is for america. all i know is that i am not coming on to this site for those two days.

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Sheddi - 359 days 19 hours ago

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Thanks max power + bubbles.

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GiantEnemyLobster - 359 days 16 hours ago

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Killzone 2 will be forgotten once Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 and Halo 3: ODST come out.

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chewy317 - 359 days 14 hours ago

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against callof duty 6 maybe but halo 3? give me a break

anyways it is no longer a doubt that killzone 2 will not flop, even if it isnt the best game ever we know its AAA

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Sheddi - 359 days 12 hours ago

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haha so u mean a 60 million dollar exclusive game is going to get owned by a DLC for a game that has been milked out to death?
COD6 wont have a chance...well the odds are better than halo:dlc.
ohh and btw, I cant believe u just said a multiplat would kill it? Doesnt 360 have more games than a DLC that u had to bring in a multiplat? ohh lord.

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Kleptic - 359 days 10 hours ago

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Halo 3 definitely does have a chance though...as there are still millions of mongoloids thinking they are playing something fresh and innovative still...

and what fecking difference does that make?...Killzone 2 is without question a better looking and playing game for me (at least online, judging by the beta) than anything halo has offered so far...

and CoD?...the next IW installment will get some major hype...there is no question that Killzone 2 will handle it on visuals...and Killzone 2 doesn't have any of the cheap ass perks and doesn't encourage camping like CoD games do...but its only on the PS3...so its just a matter of if Sony gets the price down in time...and how many people actually see Killzone 2 compared to other games...this by far has the possibility of being the biggest PS3 game first...and big games move a ton of systems...we'll wait and see...but I have little doubt that the game isn't going to be one of the best of the year...

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SaberEdge - 359 days 19 hours ago

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How do you know it will be the best ever? Based on graphics?

Gears 2 is pretty damn awesome and I wouldn't just assume Killzone 2 is going to be the best ever before we learn more about it and, more importantly, actually play through it ourselves.

I have no doubt that it is going to be great and I can't wait for it, but I am just saying 'let's not get ahead of ourselves'.

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Kotaku_Succs - 359 days 19 hours ago

2.1 - Gears 2 looks like a wii game vs KZ2

Resistance 2 is the best fps of 2008 .

KZ2 murders all FPS out there

anyone who played the KZ2 beta will tell u about it

Gears 2 is a garbage overrrated game with bad graphics and gameplay

BOT u wont be here on Feb 27th i guess

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FaZtKiLLaR - 359 days 19 hours ago

2.2 - @kotaku

Agree with ever thing you said but gears is got some fun parts

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L Ronald Hubbard - 359 days 19 hours ago

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Oh look a party killer... :/

Is that you Silogon?

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PoSTedUP - 359 days 19 hours ago

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gears2 got bad graphics huh... someone needs their bifocals....

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Narutone66 - 359 days 18 hours ago

2.5 - Maybe they've played

the beta and they liked it.

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Dr_Nefarious - 359 days 16 hours ago

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lol, uncharted looks on par or barely a little better than gears 2. KZ2 blows both out of the water indefinately. Gears 2 is all pixelated and the trees and most of the scenery is all bland, Resistance 2 had better looking foliage. If it wasn't for all the blur covering up all the imperfections then the game would be just a little better looking than a regular 360 game. By the way Gears 2 is a fun game, just not the god game in the looks department as you trying to make it out to be.

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Kleptic - 359 days 10 hours ago

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35+ hours in the beta...best console shooter I have ever played competitive wise...simple as that...

that is beyond graphics...it has the best class based system, and the dynamic objective system is absolutely awesome...plus all the unlockable abilities and ranks...with full integrated community features like clan betting and weekly leaderboard awards (honor ranks are given every week to the top 10%, 6%, 3%, and 1% of players overall based on the leaderboard...you get the awesome symbol for one week, then it resets...and if you didn't do as well the second week, you lose the honor rank...its awesome, and gives a lot of replayability even if you unlocked everything...)...

but the graphics definitely don't hurt...Crysis is more gimped online than Killzone 2, resulting in Killzone 2 being without question the best looking multiplayer game ever made...

its time to let comparisons with graphics go...there is not one media source since early december saying the game isn't perfect visually...everyone was proven wrong with the 'gray' complaints of before, as the game has more color than even Resistance 2 or Gears 2 now...everyone was proven wrong with it being too dark, and only small environments...and every 'professional' in the business is admitting that its the best looking console game ever made...let it go...

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mrsatan - 359 days 18 hours ago

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I've played the beta and it was really good. I expect great things from the single player. For me it was the best console multiplayer experience I have had ever.

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IWentBrokeForGaming - 359 days 17 hours ago

4 - Now I see why I stay out of open zone

this is where the fanboys roam!... bashing both KZ2 and Gears2 is rediculous. Both ARE truely BA games for their respective consoles. Glad I own all 3 consoles this gen, so Im not missing out on any awesome games. Open zone seems more for elitest cult followers rather than TRUE gamers.

Gears & Killzone FTW!

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n4gzz - 359 days 17 hours ago

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lol, you must be blind if you claim gamerzone is fanboy proof.

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Magic_The_Celt - 359 days 15 hours ago

5 -

I Think Killzone 2 is the PS3's defining FPS, Resistance 1 was good, Resistance 2 was worse, all kind of mediocre.

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Darkseider - 359 days 12 hours ago

5.1 - Worse?

Resistance 2 was worse? Bigger, better graphics, awesome online modes and good single player campaign yet it's worse? Drugs are bad, m'kay.

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Kleptic - 359 days 10 hours ago

5.2 -

I wouldn't say worse...but there were definitely things about it I liked less...

I actually liked the first games visual tone...I liked the muted brown WWII like look to it, as even full blown WWII games didn't do that as well...

the new game took that in a different direction...which wasn't too bad, I just didn't like it quite as much...oh well...

I do prefer the gameplay mechanics added to R2 over R1...it controls better...

but competitive multiplayer?...R1 all the way...R2's competitive mode was where the game really fell short...the co-op is great...but the competitive 'protect/attack this node' is gimmicky and boring imo...

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n to the b - 359 days 2 hours ago

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I prefer orig GEARS graphics. the muted background colors really made the selective use of color more interesting. there was a lot more pop to the shock of red on locust uniforms or blue sky peeking out from the clouds above.

can't speak to Resistance since I have 360 only but I think I know what u mean about the color Kleptic and I agree.

new tech is great and we need devs to push the envelope but... equally important is the application of artistic STYLE.

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Magic_The_Celt - 359 days ago

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No, it was worse, resistance was just a way better game, the story was handled better with the narrative inbetween, for its time and place the graphics where better, in resistance 2 everything is just weird and shiny 0.o

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OhReginald - 359 days 13 hours ago

6 - Held by gun point.

He was held by gun point by sony when he wrote this message.

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karlostomy - 359 days 10 hours ago

7 - "The Game was fun"

is that it?

is that what has been defined as 'floored" in the title?

kinda dissappointing.

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resistance100 - 359 days 9 hours ago

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"I did indeed beat KZ2 tonight and it is indeed awesome"

However he started his sentance with that ^^^^

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OlvaR - 359 days 5 hours ago

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killzone 2 will be one of the best fps expieriences of 09...i don't have a ps3 my own..only an xbox 360 but i played the beta on a friends house and i liked it...i can only say about the multiplayer...something like call of duty 4 on steroids, i believe all the ps3 owners will have a blast...i would really like to play the campaign though KZ2 multiplayer is fun but not really my thing ,buy i think i would love the campaign mode

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soxrock99 - 359 days 2 hours ago

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This is what i like to see. 2 rivalish developers working together to make the playstation 3 and it's games better.

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