Has Killzone 2 Surpassed the E3 2005 CGI Trailer?

thereapersson - 360 days 6 hours ago

Yep

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jwatt - 360 days 5 hours ago

I think there are some parts where the game passes the trailer but that is in the graphics. The animations are not better than the 2005 trailer, lets be serious the cgi animations are just too fluid for any game especially when they slid with the vehicle and shot the rocket.

Edit: Honestly I'm so over with the 2005 e3 trailer, the actual game looks so good it shouldn't even matter. You have to give GG props for coming pretty damn close to That awesome cgi trailer.

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iamtehpwn - 360 days 5 hours ago

best looking console game, although I did note what it was talking about by in comparison to the facial textures being a slightly lower resolution, but it doesn't look bad at all. And Who cares when this game that runs at 1080i native. lol.

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thor - 360 days 5 hours ago

In a CGI trailer, you have as much time as you want to tweak each individual animation, make them blend smoothly, add as many dynamic lights as you want, use as advanced techniques such as raytracing/ambient occlusion etc, add as many post-processing effects as you want, and touch up any areas of the video that look slightly dodgy. You can make it look as nice as possible by picking the camera angles and the specific parts of gameplay you want to show.

In the actual game, you don't have any of those luxuries. So visually, it actually surpasses the CGI in some ways in my opinion, but if you recorded actual gameplay it wouldn't look as impressive as the CGI trailer only because you've not been able to call the shots in the same way.

Edit @ iamtehpwn

The game runs at 720p native. There is no such thing as 1080i native; because 1080i has the same number of pixels as 1080p, and so then it would be 1080p native. When the devs said it supported 1080i native, they meant that they had a special mode that actually rendered fewer pixels so it would upscale better to 1080i. Seb clarified this after making his original comment, being asked, and then going back to the tech guys.

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JsonHenry - 360 days 5 hours ago

Not.Even.Close.

Has it surpassed everything else? YES!

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Homicide - 360 days 5 hours ago

Of course.

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SONYFantard - 360 days 5 hours ago

It has not only surpassed the E3 Trailer, it has surpassed anything on the 360.. by leaps and beyond!!!

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IzKyD1331 - 360 days 4 hours ago

There is no doubt that this is the best looking console game of all time (and even that is an understatement)

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CrazzyMan - 360 days 4 hours ago

Just see THIS - http://i37.tinypic.com/spu9...

More here -> http://allgamesbeta.wordpre...

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Dino - 360 days 4 hours ago

that's sick! is that his helmet coming off?

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Rhythmattic - 360 days 4 hours ago

Actually 1080i is a native resolution. its Interlaced, so draws the Odd/even horizontal lines one after the other. As with 1080P . its display progressively... All horizontal lines at once.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Just wanted to clear that up.

EDIT: Maybe off topic , but there is 3 Really interesting Debug Videos , Albeit recorded in 2007.

http://www.dailymotion.com/...
http://www.dailymotion.com/...
http://www.dailymotion.com/...

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pixelsword - 360 days 1 hour ago

- The fire in the game looks better than in the trailer (just look how "CG" the fire looks in the trailer).

- The ISA looks pretty close; I'd have to wait until I see hair in the game for my final decision in reference to the trailer: so for now, the trailer is SLIGHTLY better because I wanna see hairdos like Old Snake.

- The Helghast look MUCH better in-game.

- The ground looks about even, with some trade-offs.

- The sky looks MUCH better than the trailer.

- The atmosphere is better in-game.

- From what I seen, smoke looks better in the trailer.

- The particle effects look much better in-game.

- The tech shown in game looks much better than what they shown in the trailer.

- Some animations from what I've seen looks more organic and "better" in the trailer, but the deaths look great to the point of "groundbreaking" in the game.

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TheExecutive - 359 days 20 hours ago

The poly count? No.

The overall lighting, effects and feel? By miles...

Its kind of a wash for me, which is amazing in itself but yeah this game is going to blow socks off when it comes out.

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Saint Sony - 359 days 17 hours ago

Saying YES is like saying that 360 is better console. Lies obviously.

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Shadow Flare - 359 days 15 hours ago

Box fanboys and the gaming media thought the actual game couldn't even come close to the trailer. They thought games couldn't look like that this gen. So remember that. (Well, they won't look like that on the 360). Prove me wrong

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geda - 359 days 14 hours ago

TheExecutive nailed it

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RPG Guy - 359 days 12 hours ago

and a half

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Unicron - 360 days 5 hours ago

You said in the open zone that anyone who says "yes" has Sony goggles on.

I have to ask, then, what your opinion is of Epic always falling drastically short of their incredibly fluffed up, post processed, crazy resolution, 16xAA'ed bullshots used for showing of their Unreal 3 engine titles like Gears of War and Unreal Tournament? Which is the greater "crime" against gamers?

As for Killzone, I'd say many aspects are damn close. It's an impressive visual feat to be sure, and I'm anxious to get more play time with it.

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lil Titan - 360 days 5 hours ago

is that a question? 360 man are you insane? looking at that vid you linked it looked like sh!t http://www.gametrailers.com... here's a better one hope that jeep made it in the game "360" man lol go back to halo 2.5

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RememberThe357 - 360 days 5 hours ago

http://uk.youtube.com/watch...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...
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NaiNaiNai - 360 days 5 hours ago

the thing is that KZ2 does look amazing best graphic game of this gen, but it still doesnt match the CGI that was made in 05. look at the flame effects. you can also see the textures in the CGI are more detailed then the ingame, on the 08 beta. truth be told its suposed to its a CGI trailer,
-nai-

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NaiNaiNai - 360 days 3 hours ago

i guess according to the negatives im gettings. Kz2 isnt the best looking game on consoles. so what is. compairing MGS4 which is the "best" looking game currently, so i guess KZ2 doesnt look good. cause if your saying the CGI doesnt look better you are sadly mistaken and just being fanboys.
-nai-

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Strelnikov - 360 days 2 hours ago

There is no way in hell the PS3 could render the CGI trailer at 60 frames per second, not even 10. It would be closer to 10 seconds per frame.

TECHNICALLY, the CGI trailer looks better, and you'll realize that once you take a closer look at particle effects and model/texture resolution. AESTHETICALLY, the actual game may look better, as they've developed a very distinct art style that just happens to look really friggin cool.

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madpuppy - 360 days ago

http://uk.youtube.com/watch...

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NaiNaiNai - 359 days 22 hours ago

i was giving the game major props, and since im a "xbot" then you should be glad im doing it, the game looks amazing, but to you its just another "exclusive" you want say is the best, as long as someone disagrees withyou. i say its good, i get negatives, i say its bad i get negatives. you guys are really sad.
-nai-

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Graphics Whore - 359 days 15 hours ago

You guy's have no idea how carefully I've studied the graphics and since I AM in the field, All I can say it's pretty damn close.

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ravinash - 359 days 15 hours ago

To me its all about how good the game play is along with the graphics.
I haven't had my hands on it yet, but I'm looking forward to this one.
And the fact that everyone has to argue about if it is better than the original render goes to show that they have gotten it close enough that it really does not matter.

The game looks great, and I hope to see lots of particles and bits flying everywhere when I'm in an actual fight, thats what I'm hoping for. And so far this is the nearest that any game has gotten to delivering this. fingers crossed.

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baodeus - 359 days 6 hours ago

then it has not surpassing it because it came close. But why the hell are we even talking about graphic in games because it doesn't make the game. What about content and gameplay? I would rather focus on those than graphics. God, i hate it when people just keep talking about graphic all the time. IT IS NOT THE DECIDING FACTOR FOR A GOOD GAME.

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Xwow2008 - 360 days 5 hours ago

with u.

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SIX-0-3 - 360 days 4 hours ago

but people insist on disagreeing with you. It amazes me how blind people can be. The CGI looks better in every aspect and all this talk about it not looking better is foolish. Lets just wait for the game and try not to over hype it. We've embarrassed ourselves enough in the past by throwing our faith towards games like haze and we weren't rewarded. If this game turns out to be as good as we all hope There will be no need for words nor will there be any that need to be said.

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Wile - 360 days 3 hours ago

Hey not everyone likes my opinion and I don't expect them to. The real problem is when people try to force their opinions on others or wave them around like their absolute facts. The public crucification of people displaying independent thought on this site is appalling.

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Fruit Loops - 360 days 2 hours ago

Just take off your goggles for a minute and join us in reality, or this thread.

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Halochampian - 360 days ago

Does it look good? yes... very good.

Does it surpass? NO.

It's as simple as that. In some ways it looks better, but overall, no.

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Piece Of Spooge 3 - 360 days 5 hours ago

Nasim....get a fvcking life

This site is so sad

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silverchode - 360 days 5 hours ago

the irony

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Xwow2008 - 360 days 5 hours ago

Yes,like the lightning.

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Magic_The_Celt - 360 days 5 hours ago

Yeah? and you two obviously have fanboy goggles on

because no matter what you would NEVER say, wait.. hold on yes it actualy has, im still not getting it, i think the PS3 is still a poor console but Killzone 2 has suprassed the original E3 trailer

and that my friends, is why your not even worth bothering with :)

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ICUP - 360 days 5 hours ago

Weather it yes or no

one thing for sure KZ2 make gears of war 2 like a Wii game.

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Wii win - 360 days 5 hours ago

SGT Nathan Fail here again, Magic and ICUP, you're both idiotic fanboys. Gears 2 was fun, no doubt about it. Now shut up and enjoy your games, and quit replying to these guys, including pp. All you're doing is adding fuel to the already huge fire.

This comment was made by N4360G: " LOL He's a Nintendo Wii fanboy,ignore him.His opinion doesn't matter. "

It's sad, because someone likes the wii, their opinion suddenly doesn't matter.

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Algullaf - 360 days 4 hours ago

huahuahuahua moron

by the way why you care really?
go enjoy Red Faction in 2009 that Maxes out your sh!tty console.

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Kotaku_Succs - 360 days 4 hours ago

arent u even ahsamed to use X360 in ur tag

that shi88t console called TRASH BOX 360 is fit just for repair shops

KZ2 makes anything on that suck box look like pile poo and sheetbopx 360 owners are still talking

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Graphics Whore - 359 days 15 hours ago

Haha, I guess only the more intelligent can appreciate how good killzone 2 looks.

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edwineverready - 360 days 5 hours ago

Thanks for seeing this is a great game.

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SGT Nathan Fail - 360 days 5 hours ago

You're welcome, and that stuff I said about the PS3 earlier? Didn't mean a word of it. And my avatar? I actually like the Resistance series, I just chose to make fun of it cause it seems to be one that the PS3 fanboys like the most and will therefore bash anyone who says anything negative about it. Look back on my comments and look at your replies fanboys, and see just how crazy you really are. When someone like the way I was acting does come along and says that crap, be better than them, IGNORE AND PLAY YOUR GAMES.

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edwineverready - 360 days 5 hours ago

But i did not like res2 bought it played it sold it. i played the first on for months and i mean months.

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Dr_Nefarious - 360 days 4 hours ago

I remember the comparison. Yes, it did put the 2005 trailer to shame. Well not really to shame, but it did look better. Contrary to what the article says it also had better textures, hence the sharper visuals.

In all honesty I still don't think the game is a day one buy for me. Something about this game I just can't put my finger on yet.

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SGT Nathan Fail - 360 days 5 hours ago

^^^^ Stupid fanbrat.

EDIT @ Beg For Mercy: Glad to see you evolve from "fanboy/girl" to "Gamer". All fankiddes in general suck. Be better than them. It's ok to say something along the lines of "I tried halo 3 before, seemed cool, but not my type of game sadly." But stuff like "Pssh! GAYLO 3 sucks!" is just plain stupid. Not everyone likes the same thing, so if you talk to someone and they say they don't like the PS3 or they don't like uncharted, just hold your tongue and respect their opinion, we are all entitled to one after all.

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resistance100 - 359 days 13 hours ago

Well this happend Last generation as well (however not to the same scale)

Once both consoles get cheaper, all the actual gamers end up getting the one they don't have already.

Its only during a console's first few years where there really is that 'fanboy war' because mainly most people can only afford to get 1.

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Wii win - 360 days 5 hours ago

killzo- I mean crysis, Crysis! >.< forgive me, they both just look so damn awesome. ;_; 360 has some cool games too, can't wait for alan wake and halo wars.

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