Resident Evil 5 dev: PS3 is not hard to develop for

HighDefinition - 371 days 5 hours ago

DO YOUR SELF A FAVOR AND WATCH IT, It should put everything in perpective.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Irony.

BTW, IGN were the creators of it.

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chrisnick - 371 days 5 hours ago

the ps3 has started off the exact same way.......even sales wise......sony's just following a formula that takes a while to see its potential......but sees it nontheless....we'll have a repeat of last gen.....the 360 will bow out early...i promise u that...3-4 years from now....it'll be the ps3 and the wii...if the wii lasts that long....the winner of the gen is the one that lasts and sells the longest.....last gen is only over bcuz there's no one for sony to compete with.....history is about to repeat itself.

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ultimolu - 371 days 5 hours ago

That was funny High Definition, but it's so true.
The PS3 is following the same footsteps of the PS2.

Hard to develop for? Check
Sales were slow? Check
Sony lost money on the console? Check
Sales took off like a rocket after prices dropped steadily? Check

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HighDefinition - 371 days 5 hours ago

make some HARDCORE 360 "freaks" sick to their stomach.

Alot of gamers are young and inexperienced and don`t know the history of how earlier generations played out.

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Kigmal - 371 days 4 hours ago

Only reason why I ever hated PS2 ... for killing the Dreamcast. :( Thanks for that flashback video HD. OT: It's not hard to dev for but maybe harder compared to 360.

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HighDefinition - 371 days 4 hours ago

No prob. I love that video, brings me back memories

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lowcarb - 371 days 4 hours ago

Says who you? How do you know 360 will blow out? I bet you were one of those people saying nobody will ever support xbox and so on and so on. Comments like yours don't belong in the gamer zone to begin with. Funny how it's terrible if Sony drops out but no problem if it were MS hypocrite. All this history stuff is stupid anyway and will be the downfall of all your ultra ego's.

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Ju - 371 days 4 hours ago

@Bladestar, thx for that link, BTW. According to that, the PS3 still sold about 3M more withing these 2 years then the 360. How does that fit into the picture ?

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OnslaughtX - 371 days 4 hours ago

Ju brings up a good point. Selective analysis is fun for all.

Don't you guys get sick of this console war crap? Ever?

And Kigmal, the PS2 did not kill the Dreamcast, Sega did, with YEARS upon YEARS of stupid business moves and bad decisions. The Saturn, if anything, killed the Dreamcast.

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lowcarb - 371 days 3 hours ago

Good freaking point onslaught, and well good point again.

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Deee187 - 371 days 3 hours ago

How did the ps3 have 2 price cuts already and and go down 200$ in price.
Your comparing the highest cost of the top sku to the lowest cost of the core sku, nice try.

The PS3 only had one price cut:
The premium package (60gig)was 600$
The core package (20gig) was 500$

100$ price drop (sku change)
Premuim package (160gig) 500$
Core package (80gig) 400$

Each sku was dropped by 100$

The second price cut will most likely be in 2009.
Probably between 50-100$

of course with your logic the 360 had 3 price cuts and went down 300$ just to stay competitive.

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drewdrakes - 371 days 2 hours ago

Ahahaha, so the guy that DIDNT write the engine for PS3 is saying that it isnt hard to write? Come on. PS3 development is easy if you use Unreal Engine 3 too. Other devs are saying that its hard to develop that base code.

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jadenkorri - 371 days 2 hours ago

oh stop your whining, lets take a good look at that link you provide, clearly shows the ps3 outselling the 360, since ps3 outsold the 360, next step in fanboyism, compare sales from last gen to current, ah something to attck the ps3 with... Love your little part about sony losing money on the ps2 hardware, we all know that, and we all know sony is losing money on the ps3 hardware also, but guess what, so is the 360 as it is losing money on hardware also, even when the recent price cut i doub there making money on it now....Software sales is were they all make their money.....

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prowiew - 371 days 2 hours ago

Probably is not hard to develop. Is just different than the normal.

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iamtehpwn - 371 days 2 hours ago

360 just has an architecture that is ideally a computer in a smaller box, while PS3 has more new, interestingly designed hardware.

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power of Green - 371 days ago

A grip of devs have said this yet when Eurogamer and others do the final comparison, it would seem the devs comments are just marketing jive/fud lol.

This jerk-off session is based from devs needing to earn every penny invested in PS3 back, wait untill the games release, then you'll see. lol

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Jecht - 370 days 23 hours ago

I'm pretty sure I can give you a Mormon wedding so that you can marry your Xbox, Xbox 360, AND Microsoft all in one ceremony.

You want a summer or spring wedding?

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darkpower - 370 days 23 hours ago

Uhh...no where in the article did it state that he DIDN'T have anything to do with the engine. Please don't try that tactic. There's more to making an engine than just writing it, anyway, mind you.

Wonder how many people will be branded with "SDF" in here by the XDF, though! More initiations (and bubble popping) will probably happen in this story from the XDF?

And do you notice that the people who are commenting Bladestar have been proven to be 360 fanboys themselves?

My guess is that all of those 360 fanboys were very much hurt by what this guy said. Basically put, this Capcom guy just killed alot of the ways they had to trash the PS3 because of their inane "console war". Really trying to do whatever they can to make his comment invalid.

Seriously, why do you care if the PS3 IS easy or hard to develop for? Why do you WANT the PS3 to be viewed as hard to develop for?

@Kigmal: I don't think it was JUST the PS2 that killed the Dreamcast. Sega had a BUNCH of internal problems by the time it was released. Their inability to support any console for long helped that along because of what happened with all those Genesis add-ons and how quickly they abandoned the Saturn. That and it's controller took a bit of getting used to (trust me, I had the opportunity to try it out. Took a bit of time for me to get used to it, and this is coming from someone that loved the Gamecube controller).

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The Lazy One - 370 days 22 hours ago

Capcom did a smart here more than anything. It's easy to make a multi-plat title for the PS3 when you take into account the differences inherent in the PS3. The unreal engine was always designed to run best on a PC, and that's why it doesn't do as well on a PS3.

When you design a game or an engine from the ground up with the architecture of the PS3 in mind, you won't have many troubles. The problems come in when you end up doing something that is expected to work on a PC, then try to port it to the PS3, without accounting for differences.

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kwicksandz - 370 days 21 hours ago

Capcom gets exclusive PSN store, then has positive spin on PS3 development. Since many, many other developers have said that it is indeed difficult to dev for im going to assume that something is fishy here.

Lost planet for PS3 anyone?

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blackpanther25 - 370 days 21 hours ago

i would add something, but to tell you the truth i don't care what haters say. I mean its not like you have a ps3 (because you hate it so much), so what is the point in trying to change other people's opinion about a system (that they bought and love already). lol its like me going into a apple store and try to persuade people into not buying a mac or ipod. Man get a life

On topic: I think it is just a matter of opinion. I mean not everybody is the best/good at what they do. It's like any other occupation. You can go for a checkup and have a doctor tell you that pain in your pelvic region is a cyst and have another doctor (second opinion) tell you that its is hernia. I know weird example lol. I just trying to show how different people who have the same job can come out with different conclusions

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Elimin8 - 370 days 20 hours ago

Well said......

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darkpower - 370 days 18 hours ago

Actually, jadenkorri owned Bladestar at 1.15, so I would say that Bladestar didn't own anyone (not that he did to begin with, but since you want to say that Blade OWNED someone). Look at the chart he posted to try to prove his point. Doesn't look like worldwide sales have been that great recently for the 360, both the PS3 and PS2 are outselling them worldwide right now. Bladestar tried to prove one point, but failed at that and instead proved a point that was against him correct. Plus, it's not like you're completely innocent of 360 fanboyism, either (look at your comment history. You've insulted a lot of people for simply having an opinion different than your's, such as me and Ultimolu).

Still, I ask, why do you give a damn about any of this? If you're a gamer, you should be happy that a game company is supporting ALL gaming platforms, not just those that get your seal of approval. I'm not sure where you guys want the PS3 to have that label of "hard to develop for" pinned on it.

Oh, and one more thing to the 360 fanboys: Stop b!tching that I'm taking this stuff "too seriously". It's really your fault that people have to resort to "walls of text" and the seriousness because none of you will ever stop trolling these stories, thus giving us the necessity to find some way to get you to shut up for a moment to actually listen to some reason! The gamers with PS3s never have tried to disprove THIS many positive PS3 stories THIS often, and have never attacked anyone this much and this viciously. If you want us to worship the 360 that badly, tell MS to give us a reason why we should support the system with our money instead of insulting the very same people you end up reporting because you think they insulted you, popping their bubbles just because you didn't agree with them while complaining that people are popping yours and making the gamers on this site and the empty reasons you give as the scapegoat, giving us "facts" and "proof" that a ten year old could disprove in his SLEEP, etc. You don't agree with a comment? Then fine! But act like you've passed the fifth grade when doing so. Please! Thank you!

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The Lazy One - 370 days 18 hours ago

We all know that's why you resort to walls of text. Walls of text are there because nobody actually reads them and fanboys see "PS3 GOOD LOLOLOLOL" and give you agrees and bubbles without having to convince themselves that your problem ridden argument actually makes sense.

On the flip side, nobody ever tries to prove them wrong because it's only a matter of time before someone radical enough to write something like that straps a bomb to themselves and rids the world of their opinion...

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SonyOwnsNextYear - 370 days 17 hours ago

LOL...........alot of you see the light now.

PS3 FTW.

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plain rice - 370 days 17 hours ago

LaChance I bet you didn't even read his post and still replied with a "he single handedly owned everyone" comment. lol

First of all two price cuts for the PS3? since when? All I see is one for both sku's.

Second of all, he's using vgchartz numbers as fact to back up his claim. Seriously WTF?

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Raz - 370 days 15 hours ago

The only reason the 360 is 'easier' to program for is because it isn't really a console - it's a PC dressed up like one.

So as far as programming for a genuine console goes, Wii is probably the easiest, with the PS3 next in line. Since we aren't comparing PCs to consoles, the 360 doesn't even get an honorable mention.

pwned! ^_^

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The Great Melon - 370 days 12 hours ago

@1.32
That's a first. You gave me a chuckle. Never heard anyone mention how easy it is to program for the Wii.

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The Lazy One - 370 days 9 hours ago

the wii's architecture is more PC like than any of the other consoles.

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lokiroo420 - 371 days 6 hours ago

You are an idiot!

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Shane Kim - 371 days 6 hours ago

What I've seen of the game, the aliasing is almost non-existant. But then again, if you watch GTA4 movies on GT then play it for yourself it'll be clear as the moon that the game suffers badly from AA.

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sajj316 - 371 days 6 hours ago

I get what he's trying to say ... but just came out wrong :)

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ShinnokDrako - 371 days 4 hours ago

Whoops... i meant "i'm very tired of jaggies in games" =P Good if RE5 hasn't it.

@Iokiroo
...... thanks

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y0haN - 371 days 3 hours ago

@ Shane

Don't you mean "a lack of AA"? :P

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callahan09 - 371 days 3 hours ago

GTA IV was loaded with jaggies and the lighting effects were miserable. The first Saints Row was a more attractive open world game.

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christian hour - 370 days 22 hours ago

Fanboys rabidly jot down this quote and assign it under "what to use in case of 'hard to develop for' argument". haha. Just Kidding.

Resient evil 5 is looking great on both consoles as the 360 controller above me said, so I'm pretty much seconding his statement!

I just need to decide which console to buy it for... it usually all comes back to wanting to add more points to my gamerscore... DAMN YOU MICRO$OFT!

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SRU9600 - 371 days 5 hours ago

Hate to break it to you, but the majority of developers still think the PS3 is a pain in the a$$ to deal with.

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butbutbuttehcell - 371 days 5 hours ago

lol 4 disagrees for SRU for stating what the developers themselves have said. It's not a myth that it's harder, pretty much everyone has said it's more complex to do. Valve simply refuse to make games for PS3 because they don't see the value in learning how to do it. But Capcom have been able to do it since the get go, cos they're clearly one of the best developers who have been bringing out games with sweet graphics since DMC4. Just because Capcom (well actually, one developer there) said he doesn't find it harder, doesn't mean the other developers who said they did were lying...

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SRU9600 - 371 days 5 hours ago

Yeah, it's rather sad. lol

Sony fanboys absolutely refuse to face reality.

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ultimolu - 371 days 5 hours ago

List them.
Go on, list the developers.

EA has succeeded in making Mirror's Edge and Dead Space look the same for both consoles. Capcom has made Resident Evil 5 look the same for both consoles.

I'm waiting. And don't mention Valve because they're PC fans.

...You're not listing the developers. You're being proven wrong and yet you come up with something that has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand.

I'm perfectly calm dear. Can't wait to get back to MGS4 and all my other games after work. :)

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lociefer - 371 days 5 hours ago

lol the 360 in the pic is red ringed

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Magic_The_Celt - 371 days 4 hours ago

hahahaha yeah

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N4360G - 371 days 3 hours ago

LOL I noticed that too.

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deadie - 370 days 23 hours ago

So true! ;)

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Monolith - 370 days 20 hours ago

" i have many friends in the industry who dev for such amazing teams as Ensemble Studios, Atari, Activision, and EA and they all say how much trouble it is to dev for PS3!!," Sure you do. lol

"watch as the 360 will once again have a superior multiplat!! even..,"

- Yea well i guess you can have the Superior Multiplats, i rather have The Superior Exclusives such as Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, LBP, God of War, M.A.G, and Uncharted 2. Even though Resident Evil 5 looked better on the PS3 than the 360 counterpart in the comparison video, I mean everybody talked trash about Bioshock on the ps3 how it was crappy, lol to bad there's nothing wrong with it, And i believe we got the Superior version due to we got all the download content that you payed extra for, standard in our verion HA

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Xlll - 371 days 5 hours ago

Nothing is hard if you actually think and put some effort into it. As you already can tell by looking at Gabe for example, the only thing he puts effort into is eatting as much KFC as possible.

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Lou-Cipher - 371 days 5 hours ago

I don't believe you have friends. Much less, friends in the gaming industry.

You could cling to: "the PS3 has no games" in 2006 and somewhat in 2007, but not anymore (looks like the 360 is the one desperately seeking out quality game titles)

You could cling to: "the PS3 has a crappy online" in 2006 & 2007, but not anymore (is it really worth the $50.00 on Xbox Live for voice messaging and cross game invites?)

You could cling to: "90% of Xbox 360 multiplatform games are better" in 2006 & 2007, but not anymore. (Don't be mad that developers have started to figure out the PS3s architecture)

While you cling to the glory days of the 360 (2006/2007) I will be playing superior games on the PS3 today and in the future. (Dont cry about it 360roxorz)

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Magic_The_Celt - 371 days 4 hours ago

oooh so your a dev are you! how many games have you made so far?

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Narutone66 - 371 days 4 hours ago

He's the one doing the Soulja Boy game.

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drdistracto707 - 371 days 1 hour ago

um, you havent seen the comparison have you, they look identical m8

and why does everything related to sony have to be some "washed up viral campaign", cant you just accept it, or are you really in that much denial?

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meatnormous - 371 days 1 hour ago

I am watching him play it on my new 360, which sounds louder than my pc with 3 120mm fans in it. I seen several framerate stutters, enemies that float mid air. He couldn't join an online game even though he waited 10 mins. not making any of this up, check my gammer tag in my profile for proof that it is being played as I type.

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drdistracto707 - 371 days 1 hour ago

well, going by the demo on both platforms, they look identical, so...EPIC FAIL

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ultimolu - 371 days 5 hours ago

....Shut-up karl.

Just shut-up.

DEAD SPACE
MIRROR'S EDGE
RESIDENT EVIL 5

Thank you and have a miserable day.

Oh, and to add one more thing. Sony improved on their tools to develop games, which is why the games are starting to look great on both systems.

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MGOelite - 371 days 5 hours ago

nothing since resident evil 5, dead space and mirrors edge all look better on PS3

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Traveler - 370 days 22 hours ago

I love the PS3, but it's not true that Mirror's Edge looks better on the PS3. I played both demos and the 360 version did look a little better -- mainly because it has better anti-aliasing and less screen tearing.

Dead Space does look almost identical on both platforms, but Eurogamer and people at beyond3d reported that the 360 version had a more solid frame rate, while the PS3 version was prone to minor bouts of slowdown.

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karlostomy - 370 days 19 hours ago

did i make you angry?

sorry darling snookums.
you probably need to get laid, huh? .... yeh you need a good fvck!
that will make you a bit happier methinks.

hmmm...
good luck finding someone to do the dirty deed though....

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SaberEdge - 370 days 19 hours ago

Ultimoulu is living in a fantasy world...

Mirror's edge and Dead Space both look better on the 360. Read the Eurogamer comparisons....or better yet, go compare the games yourself. Mirror's Edge looks better on 360 and Dead Space has a better frame rate on 360.

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ultimolu - 370 days 6 hours ago

"Mirror's edge and Dead Space both look better on the 360."

No it doesn't you moron. They both look the same. The PS3 was the lead development for Mirror's Edge, which is why both versions look the same. The *only* difference is that the PS3 version is lighter and the 360 version is darker.

The same with Prince of Persia.

Eurogamer has a habit of creating biased video comparisons just to stroke the manhoods of 360 fanbrats. Gametrailers was caught with their hands in the cookie jar for unfairly comparing both versions of Assassin's Creed.

Unless you were using a magnifying glass to actually see some kind of a difference instead of playing the freakin' game...

Lmao, let's count the pixels!

And well, well...here goes karl again with his insults. Whenever I refute your retarded arguments, you turn around and insult me, as if you're scared of my comments.

What a coward!

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karlostomy - 370 days 3 hours ago

Everytime I, or anyone else, refutes your blinkered assertions, you come back and spout the most nonsensical fangirl denial dribble that the world has ever seen.

Witness the VERY detailed eurogamer comparisons (et al.) which show better hdr lighting and specular highlights for most 360 games (incl. ME). Witness the better 360 resolutions on multiplats (gta4). Witness the better AA and crispness of bioshock! Haven't they done, like 15 or 16 rounds of the most balanced and detailed comparisons, incorporating frame tears, framerate analysis, screenshot comparisons and resolution comparisons, across literally 100 multiplats?
Look here baby, why do you continue to absolutely ignore the vsync problems the ps3 has? http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
I mean, that's just 1 isolated example... there are literally HUNDREDS more. Do I need to go on? The evidence is mounting and all you can say is "let's not count pixels"? That's SAD, Juuken.

What's more, everytime somebody makes such detailed comparison (and thereby incontrovertibly refutes your assertions), you come back with excuses and almost start begging people to just accept that they are equal. ....remember Juuken? You just want people to be pure gamers, but only when the ps3 lags behind. Funny huh?

Don't pretend that you listen when people show you evidence.
You only like to see what you want to believe, darlin'. Any evidence to the contrary is ignored by your sorry ass. And what's worse is, you only want to believe what Sony feeds you. A vicious cycle, if there ever was one.

Ultimately, people stop talking sense to you, Juuken, because the eventual outcome of debating with you always ends with further ignorance and denial on your behalf. Can you blame people for giving up on you? Why would anyone want to talk reasonably to you, when they already know the eventual "Juuken-ignores-reality&q uot; outcome?

Is it any wonder so many people on n4g just hang sh1t on you, Juuken?
That's why you made a fresh start, right?

It's the truth and....karma.

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Patchstation 3 - 371 days 4 hours ago

Quality? You haven't even played the game yet.

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Yoma - 371 days 3 hours ago

@Patchstation 3, and you are stupid. sorry

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Oner - 371 days 1 hour ago

Typical Patchstation. A perfect example of why/how education and reading comprehension is key...I will break it down for you simple minded types

"Good to see a **quality Dev** telling it how it is"

So Celt stated his comment in reference to the DEV, not the game. Which is absolutely true; unlike MANY others who post here that spin things and omit certain words to try and make an (in)valid point.

This is too easy.

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na2ru1 - 371 days 1 hour ago

It's not better on the 360.

That effectively rules out the definition of the saying, "90% of multiplats look better on 360" that xbots so willingly loved to say because this is the game that looks far more superior than all the likes of multiplats that were poor on the PS3.

This also rules out the speculation of 360 "is superiorzz, itz da bestz". PS3 is NO WAY inferior in any way to the 360. Whats left to say xbots?

Please. Don't let MS make devs lazy this gen. Deter the lazy & untalented people from this market of game development. Keep devs on their toes. If they tire out, it will only asure that only the best devs remain, therefore, best future of this gen and NEXT. HAZE devs may have had an unfortunate closure, but think of it this way, this is for the best of the gaming market's well-being, and for the best of us gamers. Hope they have a brighter future.

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Magic_The_Celt - 371 days ago

Thanks 8.4 that pretty much said it all

+bubbles for you Oner

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ultimolu - 371 days 4 hours ago

And you can shove one of those bigmacs up your ass.
How's that?

Once again, some 360 fans show that they are in fact mentally challenged and they fear the momentum of the PS3.

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HemDroid - 371 days 3 hours ago

Hey Juuken how many Whoppers can you shove up your Ass

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ultimolu - 371 days 3 hours ago

No, let's see how much you can shove up your asscrack first HemDroid.

Awww, disagrees! Isn't that cute? Your best defense is a disagree button! ^-^

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Oner - 371 days 1 hour ago

Wow. 2 "guys" attacking a female online...that sure takes some balls <- /sarcasm

Utterly pathetic, sad and immature. No way to cover that up you tools.

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SaberEdge - 370 days 19 hours ago

WTF?! Nothing takes balls on the internet... Not even you talking like you are tough. Calling people "tools" sure doesn't take balls.

TBH, we don't even know if she is really a girl and even if she is if she wants to talk crap about the 360 every chance she gets and be a hardcore PS3 fangirl why should people treat her any different than any other fanboy?

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Oner - 370 days 17 hours ago

What you fail to realize & admit is how THEY attacked her PERSONALLY. Nice try but your cover up didn't work. Also I wasn't acting "tough", I was just stating a fact about these guys...because they are tools for picking on a female. Are you going to actually continue disagreeing with me on that?

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ultimolu - 370 days 7 hours ago

Cry me a f*cking river SaberEdge. As if 360 fans weren't doing the same crap with the PS3. I have said many, many, MANY times that the only thing I'm not fond of when it comes to the 360 are the hardware failures and the fact you have to pay to play online.

I'm actually getting one for Christmas so you fail at life.

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meatnormous - 371 days ago

Halo strat game, halo map pack, and............and..........an d......

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power of Green - 371 days ago

Change your avatar moron you make me wan't to become a republican.

"By the way what does the 360 have this year? Nothing really except Alan wait."

What country do you live in where it is 2009 already lol.

Do your research for 2009, it will help you not sound so ignorant making suggestive remarks when you don't even take the time to get informed yet care enough to make anti MSFT fanatic comments.

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meatnormous - 370 days 23 hours ago

I bet you can never guess which one I think is the best. PS3 has shown me more impressive things that the 360 just can't do. just watched a reaver chase on Gears 2, looked good, couple of hiccups with the framerate. I actually love owning all 3 cause now I can talk all the trash I want.

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Obama - 370 days 22 hours ago

Person A: pog, why did you change your party?
POG: Because I was offended by a ps3 fan on n4g!!

haha what a loser.

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