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Americas Sales for the Week Ending November 29, 2008

Black Friday sales for the video game industry were excellent. Nintendo sold 1.8m systems for the week ending November 29 while machines from rivals Microsoft and Sony combined to sell about 1.1m units. Software sales were quite strong as well, but the vast majority of the spike this week is simply from the fact that Americans spent $10 billion ($30/per American if every American shopped) on Black Friday according to various reports, and a lot of that went to video games. Last year, Black Friday week sales were strong as well, but Wii, DS, and Xbox 360 saw significantly better sales this year. PS3 had the weakest Black Friday to Black Friday growth, at 13%, and PS2 declined. Sony's machines accounted for about 1 out of 3 video game machines sold (31%) during Black Friday week in 2007, this year that ratio is down to about 2 out of 9 (22%) as the shares for Microsoft and Nintendo increase. Since Black Friday was at a different point in 2008 than in 2007, two comparisons are included below for the year over year trend. First though, a look at the size of the increases from last week show that value wins out over the holidays, as PS2 and DS had the biggest jumps despite being the oldest viable platforms on the market.
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Breakfast - 397 days 2 hours ago
1 - Uh oh...
Xbox 360 - 477,956
PS3 - 198,068
PS2 - 163,305

Why doesnt Sony just go ahead, and cancel the ps3?
Honestly, all its doing is hindering the sales, of an actual competent console....the ps2. Ive lost all hope for Sony...they keep shooting themselves in the foot, with dumb business moves.

...this is why everyone should just give up on them, and bow down to the king of RPG's...my loving Microsoft.

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Cwalat - 397 days ago
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MS 360 - 94 923 000$ ... 477 000 consoles

Sony PS3 - 79 200 000$ ... 197 000 consoles

small difference in how much money they both earned.... 15 million.. which sony gains and doubles.. with the sales figures of PS2 and PSP...

although i gotta say, stuppppid mofo ameeeericans... KZ2... well.. i guess they'll be missin out... nuuumbbbnuuutssss
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Shadow Man - 397 days ago
1.4 - OMG Breakfast
Just 3 minutes ago you had 3 bubbles and now your down to 2. Sony Fanboys are running wild. Here is a bubble 1+.
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lowcarb - 397 days ago
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Great comment breakfast lol. Bubbles

Edit below mike:With the way the market looks and value of Sony's shares dramatically dropping you just better be glad there still around with the PS3. Any price drop in 2009 would be suicide for them so you might want to start looking into other gaming devices like 360 or the wii lol. Also 360 had a better lineup this year with great software and services like XNA community games, netflix, and and avatars which all played a role in this. You give excuses all day but prepare to see PS3 get smoked this holiday even more.
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mikeslemonade - 397 days ago
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Capital G your a hypocrite by calling someone something that you are also.

As for 360 it's a fluke. Clearly everything that has made 360 good this year is solely the price drop. 90% of the benefits came from the price drop. You guys act like Sony will not eventually drop price. And that's fine because you guys will be eating your words next year when they do drop price.
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Steven Colbert - 397 days ago
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Breakfast,bubble for you my brave hero
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etownone - 397 days ago
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bubbles up breakfast.
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hate_me - 397 days ago
1.9 - Cwalat
dude its not a secret that sony makes less money on the hardware sales than the 360 so please keep nonsense like this out. Sony only 20 000 000 behind in money earned for this month between 360 and ps3... doubt that dude. the only things that brings in revenue for sony is ps2 and psp.... ps3 is piggy backing on those two. Microsoft makes money on each 360 being sold.
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season007 - 396 days 23 hours ago
1.10 - yeah horray for vgchartz
and it even can tell how many exact consoles are sold
how nice

I bet they just calculate it thru microsoft claimed 25% increase yty and the 3:1 outsell claims
and of course wii, they pull it out from the @$$
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Nicolator - 396 days 23 hours ago
1.11 - wow ur brave breakfast
here u go.. bubbles
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sak500 - 396 days 23 hours ago
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Even though breakfast is more sony fan than ms and just plays around with comments ;) here bubble up
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Wiimaniac - 396 days 23 hours ago
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People please, stop arguing about things you know sh1t about. Stop the freaking predictions and try to see the the situation as it is right now.

Wii = #1
X360 = #2
PS3 = #3

What's the point in arguing? I know there are a couple of people that like to stir the gas to make a bigger flame but calm down. Relax and enjoy your system. Sales or not every system has amazing features and games and Sony's not going anywhere, they are a pretty aggressive company that will continue supporting the PS3 until the end (where's the HD-DVD now when everybody was saying that Blu-ray was dead?).

The PS3 has an incredible line-up right now and 2009 is looking even better so, forget about the haters. Don't worry, be happy. =)

==BTW what's the point in having two sections here if the majority of fanboys are commenting in the Gamer Zone anyway?
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Danja - 396 days 22 hours ago
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hmm I thought the 360 outsold the PS3 by a 3:! margin on Black Friday so why is the almighty VGchartz saying other-wise....ohh yeah...these are just guesstimates as usual...and im surprised you ppl are flaming over this again...

The 360 had a price cut...the PS3 is twice as expensive...which will sell more.....?

PS3 fans should have already expected this...im a PS3 owners and I already knew M$ would have outsold Sony....even Sony knew this...
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PimpDaddy - 396 days 22 hours ago
1.15 - Danja
These sales estimates are for the whole week ending Nov 29 2008. So for all we know the 360 may have indeed outsold the PS3 3:1 in the US on Black Friday.

This is going to be fun. I can see the SDF invading this thread as I write my comment. Everybody hide the children and bubbles.

Oh and since you want to put your spin on this. Here is mine. How could the 360 outsell the PS3? The PS3 is more powerful, hasnt been on the market as long, the Cell, Blu-Ray, wifi, bigger standard HDD, can surf the internet, run Linux, cure cancer, and has the strength of the Sony Playstation brand name.

Oh whats that people actually like to play games and seem to find more value in a 200 dollar videogame console with HD graphics vs a 400 dollar console with HD graphics that doubles as a movie player. Wow who would have thought. People actually buy videogame consoles to play games instead of watching movies.
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FF7numba1 - 396 days 22 hours ago
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I dont know whats worst...the fact that breakfast comment is full of fail or the fact that people are actually supporting him. Even funnier their giving him bubbles but more people take them away.
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Danja - 396 days 20 hours ago
1.17 - @PimpDaddy
I hope you know that all I was doing was pointing out was how wrong VGchartz numbers when I said that M$ stated that the 360 outsold the PS3 by a 3:1 margin yet the figures posted by Vgchartz dont reflect that...

and secondly I wasn't trying to spin ne thing...I admitted that even I expected M$ to outsell Sony by a huge margin they had just had a price cut plus there were some really good bundles are low prices available...

no-where in my post was I bad mouthing M$ or the 360 but I see you took the high road and went all fan-boyish.....
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jaysquared - 396 days 20 hours ago
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Wait I dont get it! I thought the PS3 was going to sell more than the 360 or at least sell on par? What happened with its awesome 2008 holiday line up that had Motorstorm 2, Resistance 2, MGS4, and of course it has the new mario in LBP... What happened here? No way this is correct! I mean the 360 exclusive doesn't even compare to the PS3 exclusive that just had Banjo and Gears 2. Also the price cut wasn't suppose to make a difference because with the economy so bad people want something that is future proof in the PS3?

Gotta love PS3 fans!
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Genesis5 - 396 days 19 hours ago
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Did anyone look at the source? It's VG chartz. They have never even been close to giving accurate numbers before. There is always a big difference when the NPD come out. Sony's numbers go up MS comes down. If you go back and look you'll notice it happens every single time.
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vega75 - 396 days 18 hours ago
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this is vgchart. i think i will wait for the officail numbers from NPD.
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Beast_Master - 396 days 15 hours ago
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As a PS3 owner I just want more PS3s sold here in the US, so I don't have a problem playing multiplayer games. If 360 out sells it I could care less. I just want the install base to increase, 6.5 million consoles in the US is just not cutting it right now for me. I would like to see it around 10 mill by March. So I hope Sony does cut price and I hope to see you all in the KZ2 multiplayer on Feb 27th!

Plus, Sony has the games I want in 09 and MS has yet to show me a reason to buy a 360 in 09. I would like to play Gears 2 but I know eventually every 3rd party game will have Gears cover system.

PEACE!!!
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chasuk08 - 396 days 12 hours ago
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I said it before, people who are buying 360s now are dumb american parents who are looking for a cheap way to keep their kids happy at christmas.

Lets face it all hardcore gamers already have their system(s) of choice, and PS3 clearly has the better games coming. Its just a battle of the casual gamers, which means its not about the games, its about the price. And for Sony to say they have a strong enough line up to win the christmas season is crazy. They need a price cut to make these stupid parents who buy the cheapest console buy a cheap PS3.
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darkride66 - 396 days 12 hours ago
1.23 - Wow. Looks like the 360 might actually tie the PS3 this year at this rate.
I thought it was a done deal that the 360 would come in 3rd in sales for 2008. They might still be able to claw their way to second place this year, but it's going to be close. They still have to sell about 400,000 to 500,000 units more than the PS3 worldwide to save themselves from 3rd this year.
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IdleLeeSiuLung - 396 days 11 hours ago
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VGCharts has proven to be off by up to 20%.... However, this means that PS3 sold in the 200k's and the 360 in the 400k's.

Bottom line is, people can give reasons for one way or the other and spin numbers. Bottom line is, total units sold so far matters and what the future hold is uncertain (unless you are Nintendo). Meaning the tide can turn really quickly....

My bets are on the 360, that will hold it's low price for a long time while Sony is getting in a worse financial shape while having a product that is hard to reduce cost.
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Bubble Buddy - 396 days 10 hours ago
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If the 360 was $400 or higher without any game bundled it would be a different story...
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Tiberium - 396 days 9 hours ago
1.26 - @beast master
there is only one gears of war franchise.

maybe when the npd releases the sale figures you sony fanboys can quit trying to talk off R2 and LBP selling like AA games. then again, R2 is a AA game.
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pav2323 - 396 days 5 hours ago
1.27 - Everyone above this post
is retarded. I don't mean Carlos Mencia retarded, I mean drool stupid. Listen to yourselves!!!! I am going to start referring to everyone on this site as Timmy from now on. See ya Timmy.
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Halochampian - 396 days 3 hours ago
1.28 - @Danja
Week is different than weekend.
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tatotiburon - 397 days 2 hours ago
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i just post my previous comment in the same article that didn't approve:

esus LBP couldn't even enter to the top 10, so much innovation wasted, nobody is buying it and Resistance 2?, wich games are buying PS3 users?

Gears of War 2 in #6 continue to sell very well after, the game will reach 4m units sold easily by the end of the year, good to see L4D selling well too, the game rocks! Activision must be happy with the COD5 xbox 360 version, second place.

Sony is losing NA very fast.

EDIT: holy f*** is worst than i thought, R2 and LBP couldn't get in to the top 20, less than 90.000 units sold?? WTF?

blablablabla yes i know is vgchartz, but do you really think that when NPD comes out will be a huge diference?
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silverchode - 397 days ago
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do you own a ps3?
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mikeslemonade - 397 days ago
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Your stupid if you think that the sales aren't due to the price drop. The 360 games don't sell the system. If people buy the system because of the games then people wouldn't be buying Wiis and be buying PS3s because it has the top two rated exclusives. Please learn what a system seller. L4D and Gears 2 aren't system sellers. I hate to break it to ya. Next year when the PS3 drops in price the PS3 and 360 will switch places and you zealots in here will be all gone. Enjoy your fluke win right now.
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Fernando Rocker - 397 days ago
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"If people buy the system because of the games then people wouldn't be buying Wiis and be buying PS3s because it has the top two rated exclusives."

Sorry, but you are wrong. The highest rated exclusive game this gen is still Super Mario Galaxy, according to both Metacritic and Gamerankings.

And if you are talking about exclusives only, the Wii has 5 titles with an average score of 90+ and the PS3 has only 2.

And each of those Wii games have sold a lot more than the best selling PS3 game.
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mikeslemonade - 397 days ago
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According to metacrtic PS3 has 10 90+ games and most of them are from this year which shows good PS3 growth. And there are 8 90+ games for the Wii and most of those games came from 2007+2006 so those games have aged and cannot be viewed as 90+ games. And back to my main point the PS3 multiplatform games do count when you talk about PS3 vs Wii because they are not on the Wii, so therefore PS3 has more quality games than the Wii.
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ArmrdChaos - 397 days ago
2.6 - "L4D and Gears 2 aren't system sellers"
Interesting...because one of my friends just within the last week decided that he is buying a 360 specifically due to L4D and time he had playing it...and I am sure he is not the only one.
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FF7numba1 - 396 days 22 hours ago
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lol sony will drag out console war. nintendo does care but Ms wants to hurry and close it. At the end of the day who is know for supporting their console the longest?
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jaysquared - 396 days 20 hours ago
2.9 - CONFIRMED!
"Interesting...because one of my friends just within the last week decided that he is buying a 360 specifically due to L4D and time he had playing it...and I am sure he is not the only one."

CONFIRMED L4D IS A SYSTEM SELLER. UNLIKE LBP WHICH HAS SOLD NO PS3..LOL

@MIKE
" And that's fine because you guys will be eating your words next year when they do drop price. "

God a i love your quotes! Man i'm pretty sure you were saying these last year too! And I bet you will be saying this next year as well! lol

Edit- I was just reading Mikes past posts and made me LOL! Seriously if anybody wants to see an idiot post on N4g check out mikes previous comments!
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green - 396 days 20 hours ago
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People tend to forget that it's the most undesirable 360 skw that is at a sweet price point.What do they think the sales increase will be like when the Pro follows?
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Captain_Sony - 396 days 13 hours ago
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Yeah he is a complete idiot. Wil ldo or say anything to make Sony look better.. Just look at his previous posts where you cant count year old Wii games but he can count year old PS3 games... Its sad when people like him who are die hard Sony fans have NOTHING to make the PS3 look good beyond the stiff the spin and flat out make up..Its as sad as that one article that used Sony's japan sales numbers for worldwide numbers trying to show that Sony sold the most games then any other console. Sadly only the Sony fanbase was stupid enough to buy it.
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Bubble Buddy - 396 days 9 hours ago
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Better question: What do you gain from more sales? If you only care about more sales to brag then that is pretty sad. The only thing I care why people buy more is that you have a larger install base for people to play with.
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mikeslemonade - 397 days 2 hours ago
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360 is cheaper than the Wii, but gets outsold by 2x. That is pathetic if you ask me when you factor in the money Microsoft Gaming Studios has invested into there games and marketing. Lets face it the people don't believe in the 360. The 360 sales are a fluke because the only system this year with the price drop is the 360.
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tatotiburon - 397 days 2 hours ago
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ok so you actually believe if the PS3 was cheaper than the wii it will outsold the wii? hahaha lol!, spin it all you want, a lot of people who buy a Wii never played games before.
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Breakfast - 397 days 2 hours ago
3.2 - haha...
...look at you, all grumpy and stuff.
It sucks to be on the losing team.

:)
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mikeslemonade - 397 days ago
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PS1 outsold N64 and and PS2 outsold gamecube. It's proven that if Sony is within $100 it would outsell Wii. The 360 on other hand is a weak brand and therefore despite being cheaper than the Wii it has no chance to outsell it.

360 is 2nd place and losing. "1st is the best 2nd is the worst". I own the Wii so technically i'm on the winning team. Breakfast is the one who is losing because he is getting more delirious whenever he loses his bubbles.
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caliblue15 - 397 days ago
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Right now the Xbox 360 is at Sweetspot price point. I will say this. If the Xbox 360 did not get a price cut, would the quantity demanded be that same right now. The answer is no.

Microsoft was brilliant to cut the price right before the Holidays, and they advertise like crazy.

The PS3 is the better console for your money, but most parents do not see that, or know about that, and therefore go for the cheaper console, since most games kids want are on both platforms.

(Coming from a PS3 Owner. I like the 360 just hate Microsoft as a whole company, but I will never bash them for quality economics and good advertising.)
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lowcarb - 397 days ago
3.5 - caliblue
"The PS3 is the better console for your money, but most parents do not see that, or know about that, and therefore go for the cheaper console, since most games kids want are on both platforms."

You fail right there because the PS3 is not and has never been the better console for your money. 360 by far is the better console because it offers more for cheap as well as better games and better looking games and services. Some of you are so blind and in denial that it's obvious why Sony is going to loose this console war.
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cayal - 396 days 23 hours ago
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It doesn't offer more for cheap fool.

The Blu-Ray alone makes PS3 more bang for your buck than the 360.

360 - Pay for Online. PS3 - Free.

Blu-Ray vs DVD players

Rechargeable controller - PS3. 360 - battery powered.

PS3 - Wifi built in. 360 - $100 more.

Do you even release how much more you pay in little extras for the 360?
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Willio - 396 days 23 hours ago
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"Some of you are so blind and in denial that it's obvious why Sony is going to loose this console war."

Really? Did you really just say that? Thank you Micheal Pachter for your informative opinion.
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