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Killzone 2: Issues raised about the Preview code

Motherh666 Writes: "Hi folks, I am getting a bunch of complaints about some things in the preview code and just wanted to clear this up for everyone."
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Published: 392 days 9 hours ago | News | PlayStation 3
 
 

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chaosatom - 392 days 9 hours ago
1 - "The dialogue and voice-acting was not yet final and was placeholder for that build. Has since been improved a hundred times over.
Natko
Natkos face had a shading glitch in that build making him look a little weird and plastic. Has been fixed since.

Grain filter
The grain filter is still there. But the video compression is removing it. Looks better on screen."

haha. People are like Sh*t, they Can make improvements even in Beta. LOL. that's What Betas are for.

Sadly some people like OMEGA who pretend to care, come here and Bash the game.
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Panthers - 392 days 9 hours ago
1.1 -
Its sad really. This game is going to be picked apart to hell and it will still be AAA.

Some people just love to see things fail, even if they are great.
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Violater - 392 days 8 hours ago
1.2 - To those people i say
HI HATERS
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Cwalat - 392 days 8 hours ago
1.3 -
so basically, the "preview code" is an older code...

and the voice acting is improved...

knew it.

KZ2 is still goin for the goty award... and i seriously believe.. it will get it.
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thor - 392 days 7 hours ago
1.4 -
Bubububu teh AI suxxorz!111
Bubububu there iz only 1 environment!111
Bubububu teh grafix r not impressive!111
Bubububu teh gameplay is generic!111
Bubububu control scheme suxxorz!111
Bubububu recoil iz 2 much 4 mah poor skillz!111
Bubububu teh game is no fun!111

Haters are getting OWNED at every turn. They have nowhere else left to hide. The only way this game can truly suck now (as they hope), is if they admit to themselves that every other FPS before it also sucked. If KZ2 is generic, what does that make every other FPS out there? Give me reasons that KZ2 is generic, and then give an example of an FPS that is NOT generic. Go on, try. Betya you can't.
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Why o why - 392 days 7 hours ago
1.5 - thor
ha ha

'they' will try. Im gunna set up a site for the most asinine but imaginative downplay/diss/nitpick i can find when kz2 is released. Too much variety still takes the biscuit in my books. What a douche
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thor - 392 days 7 hours ago
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I will admit I had my reservations at first. It was only caution though because I hadn't seen enough of the game to pass judgement. I still have some concerns; but every time I see the game another one of my concerns disappears. AI, for instance, whilst I have seen a couple of glitches, is at times seems VERY intelligent, and can overcome the player by sheer tactics alone.

I honestly believe they've played this wonderfully. Aside from that trailer way back when, they've shown Killzone 2 in little chunks and each time we've seen it another bunch of haters shuts up. At some point I'm going to have to keep myself spoiler-free though :( I've already seen too much :S
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Traveler - 392 days 3 hours ago
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I wouldn't be so sure that this game will get picked apart. I mean, obviously there are going to be some reviewers that do that, but I am willing to bet that it will get mostly positive reviews.

I love Killzone Liberation on PSP and even enjoyed Killzone on PS2 and I can't wait for Killzone 2. All my questions and concerns about the game have slowly dissolved over time. The more that was revealed about it, the more and more certain I became that it will be an outstanding game.
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Th3 Chr0nic - 392 days 9 hours ago
2 - WTF is preview code
preview code WTF is that, do they mean beta or aplha? whats up with that
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Fishy Fingers - 392 days 9 hours ago
2.1 -
Yeah it's a rather new one on me to. I guess the core work is complete and like they ran a beta to gauge and respond to gamers feedback they probably want equal input on the single player front from those who will be grading it come launch.

This way they have a month or 2 left to attack those complaints. Remember, they would have had feedback from these journalists a while ago, it's just been under NDA until today, so it could only just become public knowledge. Like Seb says in the post, some of these complaints from people watching online have already been removed from the latest build.
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WANNA GET HIGH - 392 days 7 hours ago
2.2 - Why o why
U dont need to wait till killzone2 comes out before u make a site.Funny enough i was thinking of a site like that but my web site making skills is not good.If u make that site now u have %100 of my support.I think its time for some one to stand up to reviews that downplay a game for the dumbest things.
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CrippleH - 392 days 6 hours ago
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Don't you know by now?

GG does not follow traditional game builds.

It goes from Pre Pre Alpha, Pre Alpha, Pre Beta, beta, preview, and then final.

Traditional game Pre alpha, beta, final.
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WANNA GET HIGH - 392 days 9 hours ago
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Im in the beta and the only thing i ask is that they remove motion control for sniper.Other than that i love it,and YTF are people complaing bout a preview.This is not the final game also i dont know whats the beef.I noticed the voice acting problem but the first thing that came to my mind was that its a demo and not the final game so i just ignored it.When the game is finished and it still has this problems(which im sure it wont)Then u can complain,but for know all u need to do is just STFU and enjoy the new videos which is AMAZING.
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Th3 Chr0nic - 392 days 9 hours ago
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nicely put. also u get bubbles for the name and avatar!1! ';..;'
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Max Power - 392 days 6 hours ago
3.2 - i actually...
want to play the game with the motion control sniper, but if they could make it optional for people who would prefer it on or off that would be perfect. Wish i were in the beta:(
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Fishy Fingers - 392 days 9 hours ago
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Quick reply to the criticism, and rather strange for a dev to be so prompt. They're obviously very protective over their baby and rightly so.

Still, good to know a few complaints have already been address and resolved, and moaning about a hair cut? Come on, you know the game is great when a major complaint is the characters hair style.

Bane of the internet, give some a few videos from an uncomplete build and they can tell you everything you could ever want to know about a game.
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solidjun5 - 392 days 9 hours ago
4.1 - yep, bane of the internet.
How much you want to bet that someone (Omega4 probably) is going to post a story from some random internet blog that reads "will the new haircut from Killzone 2 affect the sales projection?"

If it's true, then I'll walk away from my PC in shame.
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jackdoe - 392 days 9 hours ago
4.2 -
I chuckled at the hair cut comments as well.
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Marceles - 392 days 9 hours ago
4.3 -
This game is going to be looked at through a microscope when it's finally release to the point where people will just start making stuff up, since people really want a flaw in the game so bad
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WANNA GET HIGH - 392 days 8 hours ago
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This is alerday a sign that this game will be bashed for the little of things.If they are complaing about hair cuts what makes u think they will not find some lame a££ thing to take point from when reviews comes out....

Its sad but its going to happen,EDGE,GAMETRAILERS,EUROG AMER,GAMEDAILY...E.T.C Will all go out of there way and look for something bad to say.Well i dont give a F about review scores,i have played the beta and i love it so im buying the game day1.Edge can stick the 6/10 they are gonna give this game up there A$$.......
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Bathyj - 392 days 7 hours ago
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This is funny. I didn't even read the story, I cant be bothered with such nitpicking drivel, but I was thinking to myself someone would write, "One of the soldiers was a redhead, and I hate redheads."
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Fishy Fingers - 392 days 6 hours ago
4.6 - ^
Dude it's a forum post by Seb Downie - QA Manager for GG addressing peoples concerns.
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WANNA GET HIGH - 392 days 9 hours ago
6 - solidjun5
LMAO..... XD

U get bubbles for that....
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cantfindaname08 - 392 days 9 hours ago
7 - Ofcoarse they already fixed everything.
Why you ask? Remember that the journalists have had this game(preview code) way before December 4th. KILLZONE 2..FTW.
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LeShin - 392 days 8 hours ago
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Well every reviewer better be careful how they review the other fps's that come out after this.

That is if they want to be seen as unbiased and consistent that is....
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LevDog - 392 days 8 hours ago
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Just by videos alone.. GRAPHICS, GAMEPLAY, STORY, and MULTIPLAYER all look better than GTA4.. By a HUGE MARGIN.. If this game doesnt score higher than COD4 or GTA4 Ill be surprised.. Im not a huge fan of FPS.. Ima Socom addict (yes even with its server issuses).. But Every time I see Single player vids or Beta multiplayer vids.. I cant help but think.. I might put Socom away for awhile, maybe a long while. Once this comes out..

Its looks absolutely amazing.. Theres no denying that, I dont care what console your a fanboy of
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Th3 Chr0nic - 392 days 8 hours ago
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I dont think people should compare GTA4 with killzone or any other FPS. its a completely different genre. U can talk about general game scores but still thats not very good comparison for 2 different genre of game
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LevDog - 392 days 7 hours ago
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Why cant I??.. Its a vid game.. People compare GEOW2 and R2 all the time.. Why cant I do the same? Both games have graphics, gameplay, story and multiplayer.. Why cant I compare those? I didnt say anything about genres, Im talking OVERALL game..
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Th3 Chr0nic - 391 days 12 hours ago
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yes geow2 and r2 are both in the same genre so that doesnt really counter my argument much. but if you are just talking about general overall quality of the game then i can accept that i guess. to me the most important thing to think about when comparing any games is the Fun factor and that really comes down to personal preference. what i may have a blast playing may be boring to the next guy/gal
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LevDog - 391 days 7 hours ago
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Your joking right?... If your talking genres as Alien shooters than yes.. But I was talking about (and what I thought you meant) was comparing a TPS and FPS.. In which case GeoW2 and R2 are different..
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Spike47 - 392 days 8 hours ago
10 - I hope Sony advertises K2 like no other game before on the PS3, because it can appeal big time to the hardcore
shooter fans that seem to be drroling over Gears of War 2 and Halo 3.

They have a great opportunity.
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joevfx - 392 days 8 hours ago
11 - and just so peopel stop complaing about the "flame thrower" look...
...Its not a flame thrower, its a Napalm thrower, big differnece. and thats what a napalm thrower looks like, it spits out a steam of liquidy looking fire, not a big flaming blast like a flame thrower.
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Bathyj - 392 days 4 hours ago
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Exactly.

When I first heard people complaining the "Flamethrower" looked thin I thought, sounds realistic to me. As long as the flame actually splashes over stuff like liquid fire and clinges to anything and then burns, at least until the fuel burns out if not on a flammable surface, then it sounds great.

I'd love a secondary fire where you spray liquid without the flame, and then you can ignite it. That would rock big time.
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SL1M DADDY - 392 days 8 hours ago
12 - Leave it to fanboy journaists to mock a game characters hair in a preview build of a game...
Good gravy, who cares what the hair looks like. The game is way to sick looking to worry about who cut who's hair no matter the fasion. Good gravy!
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smurfie4 - 392 days 8 hours ago
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Keep in mind people that this is not the most recent build even though it looks incredible.
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bviperz - 392 days 7 hours ago
13.1 - Wait
There's a chance for it to be even better? No way!
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Arsenal4Ever - 392 days 7 hours ago
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OMG WHAT A DAY. I just got back from Leicester square. KZ2 is sooo awesome. Only the face glitch i noticed eve3rything else was fine. PM me if you want me to ask anything?
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THE_BATTLERAGER - 392 days 7 hours ago
15 - This is the only Playstation game I truly want to play
It looks utterly astounding, I envy you PS3 owners.
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Peow - 392 days 7 hours ago
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I wish there were an option to tone down on the language. The part with the dude and the minigun, heavy suit etc... "Oh F@CK I CAN'T MOVE IN THIS THING!"

This will be interesting come my birthday.... lol....
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GlibGamer - 392 days 2 hours ago
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Oh I totally agree that they should tone down a sure to be M-Rated game so your mom and dad don't flip when they hear the bad things being said over your speakers...

*shakes head sadly*

I'm an adult, and I prefer my war games to be gritty. If the Devs can work in a language filter, great. If not, don't delay this game any further to cater to a demographic that shouldn't be playing the game in the first place.
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Peow - 392 days 2 hours ago
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If it means a delay, f@ck that. I'm 16 years old but my parents are jesus freaks. If they hear that word or any cuss word in the game, they'd ground me for months saying "You should've known that there was cursing in this game!"

It's sad, my parents don't care if there's intense violence and blood, drugs, beer, etc, but if there's a hint of nudity or a cuss word then I can't get it.

makes absolutely no f@cking sense to me. Like I said, though, if it means a delay then forget the whole idea. I'm sure I can try and convince my already gullible parents that I'm mature enough to "handle it" and that the game is most definitely not "the devil"

They took away San Andreas because they thought I could do that whole "hot coffee" thing, and because theres lots of cussing it. Yet they failed to mention that you could chase people down with a chainsaw and saw them down. Or just gun down random people...
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Figboy - 392 days 5 hours ago
17 - it's a real shame that this game is going to be
DESTROYED by the reviewers.

it's funny, reviewers and gamers alike pine endlessly about wanting something DIFFERENT in gaming. they're sick of the same old sh*t. then, when they get it, they complain.

here's a wonderful example:

many reviewers have stated that the FPS genre has gotten tired and stagnant over the years (it has). they want something new.

but then, when a game comes along that at least TRIES to be different, for example Resistance 2 with it's unique weapons (which DOES make the game feel different; how many other FPS titles have you played where the Magnum has an alternate fire of explosive rounds? or a weapon that shoots out buzz saw blades that ricochet off walls, decimating the enemy. or even 300 foot tall bosses?), or Killzone 2 with it's unique feeling controls (your characters and weapons feel realistically "heavy," and it changes the feel of the gameplay, because you have to think more carefully about your movements; it's not a twitch, "floaty" shooter, where you can do a 180 in half a second to get someone attacking from behind), they b*tch and complain that it's not like a game we've ALREADY played before (ie, Call of Duty 4).

so which is it, gaming media? do you want something new (ie, Killzone 2 doesn't feel like any shooter on the market), or do you want the same thing we've had before (ie, "Killzone 2 doesn't control like Call of Duty 4, wah wah wah!")?

also, why is it that games like Call of Duty 4, great game, by the way, gets a free pass for having weapons that are, for lack of a better term, "generic" (i simply mean real world, "normal" weapons), but Killzone 2 is ALREADY being dinged for having "real" looking and feeling weapons as well?

double standards and lack of consistency are what is killing the gaming industry.

while i don't think it will happen, Killzone 2 could BOMB commercially, and it could be entirely because of the media nitpicking it into 6/10 scores over things like "no identity," "you have to fight waves of enemies," "the weapons are too normal and real," "the Helghast don't have any personality," (they're like the Nazis of the future, what more motivation do you need to destroy them?) and any other number of nitpicks that get overlooked for other titles (like Halo and Call of Duty to name only two).

i don't care about reviews, but a lot of gamers do. a lot of casual gamers, who may have had a passing interest in the game will take those review scores for what they are, and most don't even bother to read the body of the review at all, and just look at the score.

here's another example for you, about why i think scoring shouldn't be a part of the review process:

say you're looking at a review for this movie you are interested in. you glance at the score, and the reviewer gave it a 2 out of 5 stars. you think, "oh, that movie isn't very good then, i'll pass on it."

now say that you're reading the body of the review, and the guy says, "i hate the actor who played the main character. i hate the genre the film is in. i hate that the story isn't complex enough. 2/5."

now, what if that actor was your favorite actor? what if the genre of the movie is your favorite genre? what if, for that genre, you don't CARE if the story isn't complex? chances are, you'd rate that movie a bit higher, and go see it. but if you just took that arbitrary score for what it was, without reading the body of the review, you'd miss out.

i urge ALL gamers to read the body of the review, and learn to be more discerning of what are legitimate complaints (ie, "the controls are bad," "the camera is problematic,"), and what are nitpicks (ie, "i don't like the main character's hair," "too much variety," "the game is too short, but i'm having fun with it, but it's too short and the reason why i beat it so fast in the first place is because i'm a reviewer who has a bunch of other games to review before deadline,").
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WANNA GET HIGH - 392 days 5 hours ago
18 - Figboy
Its been a while i saw ur "LOOOOOOOOONG"commen ts... LOL
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Figboy - 391 days 22 hours ago
18.1 - lol. really?
i've been going ballistic on here the past few days! believe me, i've posted some monster posts this week. lol.
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steck67 - 392 days 5 hours ago
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Great to hear.
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Traveler - 392 days 3 hours ago
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Well, as some have already pointed out most reviewers have had this preview code in their hands for quite some time and I am sure that Guerrilla have had plenty of time to already fix many issues and will no doubt be able to fix even more in the next two months. Even if they shipped it now, though, it would still be an amazing game.
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cactuschef - 391 days 21 hours ago
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Cool update. Thanks Motherh666
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