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Killzone 2 environments: "not just grey urban wasteland"

It appears that dark city slums and warehouses are not the only locations players will visit while exploring the world of Killzone 2.

Speaking on the Official PlayStation forums, Guerrilla Games Q&Q Manager Seb Downie promised users, "[Helgan] is not just grey urban wasteland."
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Fishy Fingers - 402 days 17 hours ago
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Well I've read quite a few posts on GAF and similar from people who claim to have played the SP campaign (impressions due Dec 4th) and they all state people will be very surprised and happy about the amount of variety in KZ2's levels. Aside from the betas three levels, we've only seen one from the single player.

Can't wait to see what GG have in store for us in Feb.

But like the article, I don't expect to see anything to colourful or "pretty". Helgan is a dirty, nasty place, as is war, a washed out, dirty palette conveys that feeling to the gamer, like Gears this is a choice made by the Devs.
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WANNA GET HIGH - 402 days 15 hours ago
1.1 - DUH....
The only people that were saying this game will be all grey and not have different type of stages were 360 fan boys and people that hate sony.Every gamer like me knew kz2 will have different stages and it will not be all grey.

All ur greayzone2 comments will be owed next year....
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PistolPumptMonk - 402 days 15 hours ago
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I could play this game on a black and white tv, and it would still be freakin amazing.

Can't wait!
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Tarasque - 402 days 14 hours ago
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While i am for the art direction the Dev's are taking. You comment is just stupid Fishy. Saying the real life war is washed out and dirty, that comment is beyond me. Yeah cause i know once you step into war all of the sudden it becomes dark and grass just dies and everything loses it's colors and it becomes washed out. But onto the article at hand, there will be no jungle type setting or anything of that nature. It will all be buildings more buildings and buildings, sure they might do snow. But it will be snow with buildings. I just want to play the multiplayer, sure it might be more buildings upon more buildings but it still looks fun. Could care less really about single player, run through buildings and beat it in about 8-10 hours blah blah blah
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Fishy Fingers - 402 days 14 hours ago
1.4 - ^
LOL... What? Perhaps you should re-read?

"Helgan is a dirty, nasty place, as is war, a washed out, dirty palette conveys that feeling to the gamer"

I said War (like helgon) is a dirty, nasty place. I then proceed to say a washed out, dirty palette (colour scheme) can help convey that to the player.

Who's stupid again? Please READ that which you reply to in future.
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PistolPumptMonk - 402 days 14 hours ago
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Wow Tarasque, I feel so informed after reading your insider information. Could you please provide a link so I too can read about every last second of the single player campaign, including the design of each of the environments located throughout the entire game?

I just feel really left out and would like to have a more complete understanding of games that don't come out for 3 more months.

But seriously, how about canning it until you have something legit to form an opinion with. Like the ACTUAL GAME.
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acedoh - 402 days 14 hours ago
1.6 - I am really looking forward to this game
I don't know why the only argument is the color. I like the darker color tone just as I like the bright colors of Uncharted. It fits the mood of the game. If any of you read books then you know how important it is to establish mood from the get go. Creating an environment whether it's a book, movie, or game is the most important thing when telling a story.
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FantasyStar - 402 days 11 hours ago
1.7 - Agreed Acedoh
Presentation is more important than graphics. Any game can achieve a high level of graphical prowess like HDR, Dynamic Shadows, 4x AA, and streaming high-res textures. But Art-Direction and Presentation is 70% more important as it takes the tools and draws an atmospheres for the gamer. The games that we love today all had great art-direction and presentation. KZ2 is hyped the way it is because the presentation is that of hollywood style HUD-less, and a gritty war-torn atmosphere. Something I thought that KZ1 accomplished very well for its time.

Hell, in CoD2: the landing at Normandy was probably the best representation of art-direction and presentation ever. The engine could've been running the old CoD engine and I probably wouldn't care.(Youtube link below)


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jammy_70 - 402 days 11 hours ago
1.8 - welll...
i think we all new this already.. i mean look at mgs4, that was all the middle east til the game came out, then 5 totally different enviroments
its all part of the surprise, they aint gonna show all the levels and ruin the surprise for us, ay? ..i cant wait for this flipping game!
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Kleptic - 402 days 9 hours ago
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the strongest part of Killzone 1 was the level design and diversity...this 'its too grey' is 100% caused by fanboys and media members that simply can't find anything negative to say about it...and if they can't find anything negative to say, then they feel stupid for doubting the game for so long...

there was never any question in my mind that killzone 2 would have a lot of diversity...its not going to have purple mountains or green suited hero's in a paintball outfit...but will have very different areas of the planet from level to level...as they were praised for exactly that in Killzone 1, and would most likely not drop that for the second game...

imo the muted tone is fantastic though...the iconic 'red vs. blue' plays out extremely well, with friendly soldiers having blue glow sticks dangling off thier armor, while the 'ghast have the glowing eyes...as well as the way blood pops off the environment...its all extremely immsersive, which is what the entire point was...

but the 3 maps in the beta alone are all pretty different...one is a tight canal ridden cement fortress, with catwalks and stairs linking everything...all encased under a violent lightning storm, with some of the most impressive environemental effects to date (you could stair at the rolling clouds in that level for days)...one is a wide open industrial zone, with most engagements taking place out in the open...with artillery going off everywhere, making awesome effects in the smoke filled sky...and one is a gorgeous modern military academy, which is clean and new...with bathrooms, kitchens, class-rooms (complete with desks and tables that can be splinterd), full libraries, and lots of gorgeous lighting (as its the only map in the beta to take place during the day)...

you can't see the details of this game in little videos on youtube...there are so many subtle things, as well as some major ones, that push this game so far ahead of the competition its not even worth arguing about...its already confirmed without question to be the best looking title on a console to date, and possibly ever all things considered (animation, lighting, and particle effects all rival crysis, its the physics that we haven't seen much of yet...which will be the deal breaker, but there are surprinsgly large amounts of physics in the multiplayer alone...which was the only place they had to 'significantly cut back' to reduce lag)...

the killzone 2 engine is a complete beast...there is no question that they are going to string it out to show all kinds of impressive situations...no one should be concerned about killzone 2...it will deliver...and if you keep being negative about it, it'll just make you look even more stupid come february...
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JBaby343 - 402 days 8 hours ago
1.10 - How People Can Still Hate on This Game Is Beyond Me
You can still find people who want to try and dis this game for whatever reason but it gets more impressive the more we find out about it. Even if it was all urban wasteland the presentation of that wasteland is such that I wouldn't have cared. The game just looks amazing and seems to do everything right. Can't wait for this game. GG is about to shut all the critics up for good.
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DaTruth - 402 days 8 hours ago
1.11 - @tarasque
Now you can never comment ever again. Professing to know what's in a game before it is released and not even media know. There is no way for you to proclaim you know and forever brands you a fanboy who spews off at the mouth without any substance.
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shazam - 402 days 4 hours ago
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tarasque = fail
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PS3 FTW - 402 days 1 hour ago
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It's funny how all the 360 fanboys are bashing KZ2 and saying "Blah Blah It's all gray blah blah blah" yet their only good exclusive this year was Gears 2 and there's only 1 color and 1 texture in that game - GRAY metal.

Armor - Gray Metal
Environments - Somehow all Gray Metal
Vehicles - Gray Metal
Everything else - Gray Metal

Gears 3 will probably have metal water and robotic/metal people

KillZone 2 is gonna pwn
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Hellsvacancy - 402 days 17 hours ago
2 - @Fishy "Helgan is a dirty, nasty place, as is war, a washed out" - That is how i would expect Helghan to look like
I REALLY REALLY hope heres a chapter in the snow there was in the 1st game but not sure if there will b in the 2nd game - i am hopeful
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Fishy Fingers - 402 days 17 hours ago
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Well Helgan is to me, a totalitarian empire, ruled by an oppressive leader. A planet ravished by war and environmental catastrophe. I don't expect to see people running about in sandals and grass skirts. Atmospherically, I think GG have nailed it.

Plus I love the rays of colurful sun light, cutting through the overcast skies, a small glimpse of serenity, against the harsh grey industrial exterior of Helgan.
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yanikins111 - 402 days 17 hours ago
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id love to see some random level in a vr training simulator (think jason x) where all the enemies wear neon green space suits and dorky helmets. you have to blast your way through a colourful yet poorly textured canyon (there is even a giant rainbow arching across the sky)killing retarded midget oompa-loompa type aliens that sound like carebears, and when sev gets out of the simulation he shakes his head and comments on the retardedness of the whole thing.

should shut up the halo fanatics.
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Hellsvacancy - 402 days 16 hours ago
4 - I can see that theres a Sad little excuse for a human being trolling this page disagreeing with every 1
GET A LIFE OR A PS3
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Zip - 402 days 16 hours ago
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im sure that must be Nasim ^^ !!!
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spandexxking - 402 days 16 hours ago
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awww but me liek the grey!
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ultimolu - 402 days 15 hours ago
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Of course it isn't. Whoever said that is an idiot.
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Ashton - 402 days 15 hours ago
8 - I m not gonna watch the new levels after the media blow out
I wanna be stunned when i play the game my self,,,,btw is there a limited edition for this game?
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Fishy Fingers - 402 days 15 hours ago
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Nothing official, but I imagine they'll have a limited/special Edition. Expect details closer to release.
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ultimolu - 402 days 12 hours ago
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I'll try not to either. I might spasm and pass out if I do. O-o
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JBaby343 - 402 days 8 hours ago
8.3 - I Don't Want to Watch Either
I want to be amazed by this game come February so I'll try to resist checking out the SP info come Thursday and beyond. I even stopped watching MP videos because I've seen enough and I just want the full experience.
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DaTruth - 402 days 8 hours ago
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I will come to the comments section to talk about it and take notice of the conspicuously missing 360 trolls who were in every other article saying it is just grey buildings and more grey buildings. But, if it turns out to be just grey buildings I will still be here to take it from them like a man.
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Anton Chigurh - 402 days 15 hours ago
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It looks really good
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thelastawakening - 402 days 14 hours ago
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I think this game will have me consider buying the LE. I mean seriously a game thats been in development for this long and looks this good.. omg omg omg omg KILLZONE 2 FTW!!!!!!
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AngryHippo - 402 days 14 hours ago
11 - Thats good to hear....
....after being in the beta, i was a little concerned on the map variety. Anyway heres hoping that after all the waiting, that its worth the wait. Soon we will find out, not too long to wait now.
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condemmedman - 402 days 13 hours ago
12 - On Order
I'm down for this one :} Hope it better than Rfom 2 :~{
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AngryHippo - 402 days 13 hours ago
12.1 - i know exactly what....
...you mean. I personally prefered the original. Enjoyed the mp more too. Co op is good fun though.

On topic, i am sure this game will turn out great, the beta impressed me with how many effects are happening on screen at once and the lighting is very very impressive. It was good fun, takes a long time to rank up though on mp. I wonder whether they will make it easier to rank up in the final version. Hope so.
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Bits-N-Kibbles - 402 days 13 hours ago
12.2 - I liked original Resistance competitive.
R2 seems a little loose or something.
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Jeebus - 402 days 13 hours ago
12.3 - Aw man
I posted a reasonable explanation of my distaste for R2 and got all kinds of disagrees.

Check my post history if your curious, but I LOVED the first Resistance, and I picked up the second one, but just can't get into it like I did the first one :(

Bubbles ^
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JBaby343 - 402 days 8 hours ago
12.4 - Both Resistances are Great
But I do think this will be better overall. All 3 games are excellent titles though.
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xg-ei8ht - 402 days 13 hours ago
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Hellsvacancy

From what i've heard there is:)
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Bits-N-Kibbles - 402 days 13 hours ago
14 - Oh thank god!
I was hoping they would say something like this. The original had a lot of different environments. Similar to starwars where each planet was a different climate. In KZ1 you went in space at the end, but that level kinda sucked. But I hope you get to go to other places they havent shown, maybe space station or even to another planet. If you go to killzone.com and read all of the story/timeline stuff its very interesting and goes in depth on the history of helgan and the people.
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AclayPS3 - 402 days 13 hours ago
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I remember reading an article and the developers stated that in Killzone 2, there would be levels that would show "Helghan's Natural Beauty", and when I read that I automatically knew that KZ2 would have a lot of variety in the environments.

Can't wait for Dec. 4th for new info on KZ2's Single Player, and of course, Feb. 17th couldn't come soon enough. Hater's be damned, Killzone 2 is mine!
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JBaby343 - 402 days 8 hours ago
15.1 - I Remember Reading That
I though the exact same thing. There will definitely be variety.
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Hellsvacancy - 402 days 13 hours ago
16 - @Xg-ei8ht
I real hope so theres summin very appealing about snow and blood that

The games gonna b massive i dont mean in sales i mean in QUALITY

Not long to go now

Off topic. Im listening to Unearths new album and its incredible, thought ill share my happiness with u all
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bmatthews - 402 days 12 hours ago
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cannot wait for Dec 4th, Killzone 2 is already on Pre-order for me...

its a fantastic title, and really deserves absolutely no hate from any group of gamers, as it is a masterpiece in FPS gaming and a milestone in console gaming graphics.

First Person cover mechanic is a first and it should Rock!!
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Ziggi - 402 days 10 hours ago
19 - They are late..
I asked a dev this as im in the beta..

Me:'I know the helghast control the weather but vary the maps, like a grassy area, jungle anything!'

Dev: 'Yes, Helghan will be more than what you see in the beta:)'

The rest of the convo is disclosed :)
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aggh im on fire - 402 days 9 hours ago
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I have to say although the beta footage looks amazing i was a little worried the enviorments would end up being similar so im very happy to hear this is not the case.
although i spend more time on my 360 than my ps3 this is shaping up to be a stunning game. The feel of the guns and enviroment damage is simply stunning and this good well be the fps Playstation fans have been waiting for.
Belive me if you haven't seen it running for real your in for a treat.
360 fans youreally have to but your fanboyism aside and try this game or you might well be missing out on a milestone of a game it really is shaping up to be that good.
It can't come soon enough. There are plenty of great games on ps3 but i have a feeling this is going to be there Halo: a game worth buying the console for.
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Hellangelzx - 402 days 8 hours ago
21 - I hope
That the game isn't all grey grey and grey.

But what I don't want, is cute little fields with pretty ponies and flowers.

This is Helghan, this planet is so rough, and tough, and horrible that the citizens need life suits and masks just to keep from becoming distorted.

Why do you guys think all of the Helghasts wear masks? It's so survive the planets harsh conditions.
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zonetrooper5 - 402 days 7 hours ago
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Well its good they will have different environments, I'm kinda getting sick of alot of games just being grey, brown and bloom to achieve this realistic look.
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phosphor112 - 402 days 6 hours ago
23 - Bu bu bu but...
I'm teh phanb0i wanting to say SuckZone2's grafX sux =[

...sad thing..there are people like that.
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xwabbit - 402 days 6 hours ago
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I knew this from beginning :)
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Narutone66 - 402 days 4 hours ago
25 - Just like to ask the
Killzone experts out there. Won't the atmosphere affect the human who came to Helgan since the Helgan were once human? As I understand the Helghast have to wear mask to prevent them from being distorted or something. Sorry for asking a noob question, but I'm interested in this game from seeing all the reviews and video.
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Lykon - 402 days 3 hours ago
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Cool it's going to be like Jak and daxter colours with waterfalls and greenery.
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darkdoom3000 - 402 days 1 hour ago
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I would like it to have a lot of color. dark colour. lots of dark reds, etc, bright colors in forest enviroments

and btw, the first Killzone had lots of enviroments, so i expect no less with this one
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