PS3 outperforming 360 in PAL territories

Silogon - 401 days 13 hours ago

Actually, you're wrong... Ps3 launched more than 16 months after the xbox 360 did in Europe. So it's even more amazing than we thought.

March 23 2007 to be exact. Xbox 360 was released november 22, 2005...

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IzKyD1331 - 401 days 13 hours ago

Europe has always been PlayStation crazed, but all hell will brake loose in Europe once GT5 releases

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TOO PAWNED - 401 days 12 hours ago

I am from Europe and i love Sony and especially Playstation brand BUT i feel like they are milking us. Hardware is to expensive, not to mention software. Also we get stuff way late, Resistance 2, Soccom are both coming on 28th November, what a joke! resistance 2 price is 10usd(when converted) more than other titles, a joke!
They know they can get away with it.

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aebriscoejr - 401 days 12 hours ago

Yes the PS3 did lauch over a year after the PS3 so congrats Sony.

One thing I don't get is if the PS3 is doing it's best in Europe then why is it we Americans get most of the Sony love (not that I don't appreciate it). I would be catering to Europe the most while trying very hard to also cater to American and Japan if I were Sony (Japan not so much they want RPG's and when their ready then Sony will have Japan again).

Anywho I wish I was there they showed off Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, and God of War 3 *shed tear*.

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IzKyD1331 - 401 days 12 hours ago

^^ Yes, I have to agree with you too_pawned, SCEE needs to show more support for Europe, I have buddies in PAL territories that have to wait weeks(even months) to play the same games NA gets earlier......but there's (rumored) to be a price cut in march so.....

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mikeslemonade - 401 days 11 hours ago

Before a smart ass comes in here and said PS2 sold 120 million. We are talking about the state of the PS3 not the state of Sony. The state of the PS3 is doing well. Next generation I can very well buy the other system if I think it has the potential.

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Bathyj - 401 days 11 hours ago

aebriscoejr

The reason US gets most the love is simple. They are used to getting everythingearlier and cheaper. Its always been like that, and maybe it was warranted at a time because they were the biggest market. But lets face it, and I say this NOT to insult any of our American brother here but if Europe got the preferencial treatment and USA suddendly became the Red Headed stepchild, then they would sulk, big time. No offense guys, but your know its true. You're so used to the presidential treatment, if it was suddendly gone, you would not be happy and USA would backlash against Sony badly, and Sony cant have that. They need to keep pegging even in the US knowing Europe tips them over.

Besides, its not always the way. R2 is American, of course we get it late. Sometimes we get games like wipeout early.

And TOO PAWNED
Where the hell are you shopping? Since when is R2 more than other games? Australia is the biggest ripoff for games (except maybe New Zealand) and our RRP is either 100, 110 $120, but I haven't payed that for the last 6 games I bought in the last 2 months. Someone always has it on sale, and I've payed $79 or $89 for all my recent games and thats what I'm getting R2 for next week.

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arika - 401 days 11 hours ago

i definitely agree with this post. ps3 is already leading in the pal and japanese territories this year, but come 2009 ps3 will be widening the gap all over the world, making xbox 360 eat dust because of seven reasons. namely:

1. GOD OF WAR 3
2. KILLZONE 2
3. UNCHARTED 2
4. WHITE KNIGHT STORY
5. FF 13 VERSUS
6. GRANTURISMO
7. PRICE CUT BY MARCH

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yanikins111 - 401 days 7 hours ago

for the people asking why Pal territories get things later I was told it has to do with europe having alot of countries and therefore more laws that have to be met, more approvals, more paper work and while ntsc is pretty much only english, pal is ever other country under the sun so they have to do stuff like sub titles and dubbing.

what i was told, makes sense.

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King_many_layers - 400 days 17 hours ago

Agent VX...

you need to look at this from the point of view of the casual gamer or the parent.

with any other product you are more likely to go for the cheaper one because it is just that cheaper, not better, cheaper. The Ps3 is the most expensive console out and is still up at the same level as the XBOX360 in europe. The XBOX360 has been out for 17 months more than the Ps3 and yet it's still only marginally ahead if we are to believe microsoft. It is infact now cheaper than the Wii in the UK atleast ( on the cheapest model in which they advertise to atract the casual like mad ) and yet it's still being outsold by it.. that to me is somewhat of a failure.

When Ps3 is cheaper it'll be much more appealing than it currently is. Hardcore audience is getting smaller as more is sold and that price cut is getting nearer, then all of a sudden we'll get more casuals jump and it'll be a hugely desirable electrical product.

( this is an opinion in which I like to think is based in a down to earth manner )

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pain777pas - 400 days 7 hours ago

RROD failure rate is higher that 33%. I have not met one person not one who has not had an RROD seriously not one.

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zuesholmes - 401 days 12 hours ago

The PS3 sells more in UK on average over the 360, the only place the 360 sells more on an average is in the US.

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chaosatom - 401 days 14 hours ago

MS STATED THAT THEY BEAT PS3 IN UK.

GET IT? NO!, ok I understand.

EDIT: Oh no, 360 beat ps3 for 1 week, what will SONY Ever do.

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Omega4 - 401 days 13 hours ago

MS: "In Italy, we were double PS3’s sales last week. In France and Germany we are at or better than PS3 consistently now. We dominate in Russia and the Nordic countries and in Spain – a traditional Sony stronghold – we’re now outselling PS3. It bodes incredibly well for our Christmas prospects."

GET IT NOW!! NO? WELL GET SOME READING GLASSES!!!!

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ultimolu - 401 days 12 hours ago

Omega...do you think MS's comments hold any weight?

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Why o why - 401 days 12 hours ago

"Reeves then went on to say that the PS3 has a bigger install base than the 360 in PAL territories, and that the install base gap will significantly increase in 2009."

is that clear. You notice MS did NOT say this. Out perform (price cut spike) vs Bigger install base (more ps3 consoles sold in Europe than 360's)

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Lucreto - 401 days 12 hours ago

Omega

That was from a blog you are quoting and it was dismissed as fanboyism. Anyway we have no gauge in Europe MS says one thing and Sony can say another.

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Omega4 - 401 days 12 hours ago

Im guessing you believe Sony's does then, even after the unnatural amount of lies that have sprayed out of their mouth and splattered them back in the face

4 HDMI ports?, Killzone CGI?, 1080p games?, rumble last generation tech? the list could go on :)

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ultimolu - 401 days 12 hours ago

"Im guessing you believe Sony's does then, even after the unnatural amount of lies that have sprayed out of their mouth and splattered them back in the face"

...And Microsoft and Nintendo are saints?

Your hatred for Sony is really disturbing. The software sales in Europe don't lie Omega. Those software sales in Italy and especially Germany don't lie as well. Sony must be doing something right that they're doing extremely well.

predator: Is Sony's software doing well in Europe or not?
The PS3 has been outselling the 360 for nearly the entire year. I don't think there's any leg room to spin those numbers.

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predator - 401 days 12 hours ago

what makes you say Sony's word is worth anything?

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Why o why - 401 days 12 hours ago

RROD, HDMI not needed. HDD not needed. Seems they al lie so whas ya point other than you cant find ANY article from a SONY spokes person that say the ps3 would come with 4 hdmi's

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zuesholmes - 401 days 12 hours ago

I don't remember reading 4 HDMI ports and the KZ2 CGI? give me a break that's old news and look at how close they got and 1080P games? they have 1080P games just not every game is 1080P. Why you even post that comment? it has nothing to do with the topic, you sound like such a fan boy to post so far off topic :P

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CrippleH - 401 days 9 hours ago

It's 2 hdmi dumbass. At least troll right.

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Jenzo - 400 days 20 hours ago

Why should we trust any of them?

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devilhunterx - 401 days 11 hours ago

I wonder if piracy has anything to do with it ... hmm

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elorm9 - 401 days 8 hours ago

I think piracy is probably the reason. In developing countries, pirating is quite common because games are usually too expensive.

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pixelsword - 401 days 5 hours ago

High console sales versus low software sales in a region is usually the prime indicator.

It's why the Wii is blowing up, I suspect. It's basically last gen hardware, so cracking an old console would be easy as pie.

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cpt_kaos - 401 days 11 hours ago

Microsofts Call centre is in india so they probally get discounted repairs when they break.

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DeathroW22 - 401 days 13 hours ago

Microsoft had to say was that they were outselling them in the uk, sony have been saying that they are outselling them in EUROPE as a whole.

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N4PS3G - 401 days 12 hours ago

actually..no ..MS said UK and across the continent..same thing sony says..thats why i ask ..who should we believe?

"After revealing that Xbox 360 had topped the seven million sales mark in Europe, Microsoft has claimed that the console is outselling PS3 – both in the UK and across the continent."

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/3...

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facepalm - 401 days 12 hours ago

I'm seeing a "404 Missing Page" error in the link you just posted...

EDIT ADDED: Here's a working link if any of you are getting a "404 Error" like me... http://www.mcvuk.com/news/3...

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Gamedudefan - 401 days 11 hours ago

Well, seeing as all sales data supports Microsoft's claims I think I'll go with them tbh.

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Gamedudefan - 401 days 11 hours ago

It's not true, all sales data had them passing 360 sales sometime in the next few months, however with the 360 price drop the weekly sales have now overtaken the PS3's and the 360 is slowly pulling away again.

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ps3king - 401 days 5 hours ago

I agree. Sony is doing a kick ass job in PAL territories. I gave my PS3 an extra pat today. I'm thankful for this, had the PS3 had done poorly in PAL countries, I probably would of just actually ignored my PS3 and not play its games until the PAL territory sales started picking up again. Thank god PAL TERRITORIES LOVE THE PS3

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N4PS3G - 401 days 12 hours ago

actually...MS said the same thing...someone is lying

"Microsoft has claimed that the console is outselling PS3 – both in the UK and across the continent"

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/3...

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facepalm - 401 days 12 hours ago

Once again.. "404 Missing Page" error...

EDIT ADDED: Here is a working link if you're having the "404 Error" like me.
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/3...

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PirateThom - 401 days 14 hours ago

PSN includes PS3 and PSP owners, why is that so hard for you to understand?

It's not a PS3 exclusive service, just like Live isn't a 360 exclusive service.

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chaosatom - 401 days 14 hours ago

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Wiimaniac - 401 days 13 hours ago

the PSN is "FREE" to sign in and there are like 17 millions PS3's sold.

what's so difficult to understand?

i mean if you have a PS3 and a broadband connection why you wouldn't connect it? the PS3 comes with wire and wire-less connections out of the box and the procedure to make an account is easy and "FREE!"...

is this so hard to believe?

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Sir_Ken_Kutaragi - 401 days 11 hours ago

So the CHEAP 'xBox 360' can't beat the 'Wii' or the 'PS3' in Europe???
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What a F-IN FAILURE the xBox 360 is!!! ;-D

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Aquanox - 401 days 11 hours ago

Interesting how he claims that yet he doesn't give any numbers. The PS3 would need to have more than half its consoles in PAL territories for this to be true... pretty hard to believe.

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Wiimaniac - 401 days 12 hours ago

wrong again PP.

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Gaara_724 - 401 days 13 hours ago

europe we dont use $ well the places ive visited dont

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heyheyhey - 401 days 12 hours ago

£300 in PAL - $100 price cut = someone from marketing needs firing

EDIT: sorry i meant £300... the comment was a joke based on Lightning's currency inaccuracy

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Gaara_724 - 401 days 12 hours ago

is it really £400 because in arbroath,scotland the cheapest you can buy it for is £280 (just the consul )and the dearest is £300 (2 games included)

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Arsenal4Ever - 401 days 12 hours ago

i know you love PS3. Oh wait you can't afford one. Sorry.

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zag - 401 days 6 hours ago

In Australia they are giving LBP for free with all the 80gig PS3 plus what ever extras you also get with the PS3.

Some places have 2 free games or a game plus dual shock or just a dual shock on it's own prices for a PS3 in Australia is between $650 and $750 it just depends on where you go and what you get in a shop's pack/bundle.

360 doesn't have these sorts of packs just what ever MS tells them to hand out at the time.

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Magic_The_Celt - 401 days 12 hours ago

Yeh, but you know what man?

SCEE treat us like crap, everything is SCEA even though SCEE has so much more loyal customers.. p*sses me off

one of the good reasons im so proud of LittleBigPlanet, and Home, both come from the UK branch of SCEE and specificaly LittleBigPlanet made by british devs. oh yeah baby.

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dkgshiz - 401 days 12 hours ago

Look at the 360 sales there. Very poor.

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Arsenal4Ever - 401 days 11 hours ago

exactly. 9.2 million v 7 million to be exact :)

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zag - 401 days 6 hours ago

You do know... that PAL countries aren't just UK?

all all of them it equals to more overall sales than the 360 base.

Sony only has to drop the PS2 and that would rise the sale of PS3 remember Sony have 3 products out in the market not 1.

So all combined Sony would be doing the best out of all the companies.

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zag - 401 days 6 hours ago

It's not just the UK.

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Boty - 400 days 13 hours ago

How is your rear been doing lately, you know with your GeOW 2 Friends?

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