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PS3 outperforming 360 in PAL territories

Speaking at the Sony Computer Entertainment Staff Annual Briefing held yesterday in London, SCEE President David Reeves has revealed that PS3 is outperforming Xbox 360 in PAL territories.

Tipped off by an anonymous source in attendance at the briefing, D+PAD has been told that "PS3 has a bigger install base than the 360 in PAL territories, and that the install base gap will significantly increase in 2009." Apparently SCEE is the success story of the SCE divisions, generating more profit than SCEA and SCEJ.
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Published: 401 days 14 hours ago | News | PlayStation 3 | Gaming | Industry News
 
 

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chaosatom - 401 days 14 hours ago
1 - Quite Amazing because Ps3 launched a year after
and With a higher price tag than 360.

I guess Europeans are trying to tell Microsoft to Fix the RROD issue for Good and bring consoles that don't have 33% failure rate.
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Silogon - 401 days 13 hours ago
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Actually, you're wrong... Ps3 launched more than 16 months after the xbox 360 did in Europe. So it's even more amazing than we thought.

March 23 2007 to be exact. Xbox 360 was released november 22, 2005...
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IzKyD1331 - 401 days 13 hours ago
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Europe has always been PlayStation crazed, but all hell will brake loose in Europe once GT5 releases
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TOO PAWNED - 401 days 12 hours ago
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I am from Europe and i love Sony and especially Playstation brand BUT i feel like they are milking us. Hardware is to expensive, not to mention software. Also we get stuff way late, Resistance 2, Soccom are both coming on 28th November, what a joke! resistance 2 price is 10usd(when converted) more than other titles, a joke!
They know they can get away with it.
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aebriscoejr - 401 days 12 hours ago
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Yes the PS3 did lauch over a year after the PS3 so congrats Sony.

One thing I don't get is if the PS3 is doing it's best in Europe then why is it we Americans get most of the Sony love (not that I don't appreciate it). I would be catering to Europe the most while trying very hard to also cater to American and Japan if I were Sony (Japan not so much they want RPG's and when their ready then Sony will have Japan again).

Anywho I wish I was there they showed off Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, and God of War 3 *shed tear*.
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IzKyD1331 - 401 days 12 hours ago
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^^ Yes, I have to agree with you too_pawned, SCEE needs to show more support for Europe, I have buddies in PAL territories that have to wait weeks(even months) to play the same games NA gets earlier......but there's (rumored) to be a price cut in march so.....
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mikeslemonade - 401 days 11 hours ago
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Before a smart ass comes in here and said PS2 sold 120 million. We are talking about the state of the PS3 not the state of Sony. The state of the PS3 is doing well. Next generation I can very well buy the other system if I think it has the potential.
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Bathyj - 401 days 11 hours ago
1.7 -
aebriscoejr

The reason US gets most the love is simple. They are used to getting everythingearlier and cheaper. Its always been like that, and maybe it was warranted at a time because they were the biggest market. But lets face it, and I say this NOT to insult any of our American brother here but if Europe got the preferencial treatment and USA suddendly became the Red Headed stepchild, then they would sulk, big time. No offense guys, but your know its true. You're so used to the presidential treatment, if it was suddendly gone, you would not be happy and USA would backlash against Sony badly, and Sony cant have that. They need to keep pegging even in the US knowing Europe tips them over.

Besides, its not always the way. R2 is American, of course we get it late. Sometimes we get games like wipeout early.

And TOO PAWNED
Where the hell are you shopping? Since when is R2 more than other games? Australia is the biggest ripoff for games (except maybe New Zealand) and our RRP is either 100, 110 $120, but I haven't payed that for the last 6 games I bought in the last 2 months. Someone always has it on sale, and I've payed $79 or $89 for all my recent games and thats what I'm getting R2 for next week.
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arika - 401 days 11 hours ago
1.8 - agreed!
i definitely agree with this post. ps3 is already leading in the pal and japanese territories this year, but come 2009 ps3 will be widening the gap all over the world, making xbox 360 eat dust because of seven reasons. namely:

1. GOD OF WAR 3
2. KILLZONE 2
3. UNCHARTED 2
4. WHITE KNIGHT STORY
5. FF 13 VERSUS
6. GRANTURISMO
7. PRICE CUT BY MARCH
1.9 Fallen_Angel | 401 days 11 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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yanikins111 - 401 days 7 hours ago
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for the people asking why Pal territories get things later I was told it has to do with europe having alot of countries and therefore more laws that have to be met, more approvals, more paper work and while ntsc is pretty much only english, pal is ever other country under the sun so they have to do stuff like sub titles and dubbing.

what i was told, makes sense.
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King_many_layers - 400 days 17 hours ago
1.12 -
Agent VX...

you need to look at this from the point of view of the casual gamer or the parent.

with any other product you are more likely to go for the cheaper one because it is just that cheaper, not better, cheaper. The Ps3 is the most expensive console out and is still up at the same level as the XBOX360 in europe. The XBOX360 has been out for 17 months more than the Ps3 and yet it's still only marginally ahead if we are to believe microsoft. It is infact now cheaper than the Wii in the UK atleast ( on the cheapest model in which they advertise to atract the casual like mad ) and yet it's still being outsold by it.. that to me is somewhat of a failure.

When Ps3 is cheaper it'll be much more appealing than it currently is. Hardcore audience is getting smaller as more is sold and that price cut is getting nearer, then all of a sudden we'll get more casuals jump and it'll be a hugely desirable electrical product.

( this is an opinion in which I like to think is based in a down to earth manner )
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pain777pas - 400 days 7 hours ago
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RROD failure rate is higher that 33%. I have not met one person not one who has not had an RROD seriously not one.
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Fobuo - 401 days 14 hours ago
2 - Like I said:
Microsoft sells more consoles in UK,but not by an insane margin.

Sony sells more consoles everywhere else,you can dispute this but if you take one look at the recent PES sales numbers in Europe,it becomes clear which platform holder has more consoles in EU.
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zuesholmes - 401 days 12 hours ago
2.1 - PS3
The PS3 sells more in UK on average over the 360, the only place the 360 sells more on an average is in the US.
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Omega4 - 401 days 14 hours ago
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Interesting choice of words as outperforming doesnt exactly translate to outselling

I guess the 360 currently is outselling the PS3 in EU territories thanks to the pricecut becuase im sure Sony would have clearly stated otherwise
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chaosatom - 401 days 14 hours ago
3.1 - dude, Sony already stated that they are beating 360 sometime ago IN EUROPE.
MS STATED THAT THEY BEAT PS3 IN UK.

GET IT? NO!, ok I understand.

EDIT: Oh no, 360 beat ps3 for 1 week, what will SONY Ever do.
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Omega4 - 401 days 13 hours ago
3.2 -
MS: "In Italy, we were double PS3’s sales last week. In France and Germany we are at or better than PS3 consistently now. We dominate in Russia and the Nordic countries and in Spain – a traditional Sony stronghold – we’re now outselling PS3. It bodes incredibly well for our Christmas prospects."

GET IT NOW!! NO? WELL GET SOME READING GLASSES!!!!
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ultimolu - 401 days 12 hours ago
3.3 -
Omega...do you think MS's comments hold any weight?
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Why o why - 401 days 12 hours ago
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"Reeves then went on to say that the PS3 has a bigger install base than the 360 in PAL territories, and that the install base gap will significantly increase in 2009."

is that clear. You notice MS did NOT say this. Out perform (price cut spike) vs Bigger install base (more ps3 consoles sold in Europe than 360's)
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Lucreto - 401 days 12 hours ago
3.5 -
Omega

That was from a blog you are quoting and it was dismissed as fanboyism. Anyway we have no gauge in Europe MS says one thing and Sony can say another.
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Omega4 - 401 days 12 hours ago
3.6 - 3.3
Im guessing you believe Sony's does then, even after the unnatural amount of lies that have sprayed out of their mouth and splattered them back in the face

4 HDMI ports?, Killzone CGI?, 1080p games?, rumble last generation tech? the list could go on :)
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ultimolu - 401 days 12 hours ago
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"Im guessing you believe Sony's does then, even after the unnatural amount of lies that have sprayed out of their mouth and splattered them back in the face"

...And Microsoft and Nintendo are saints?

Your hatred for Sony is really disturbing. The software sales in Europe don't lie Omega. Those software sales in Italy and especially Germany don't lie as well. Sony must be doing something right that they're doing extremely well.

predator: Is Sony's software doing well in Europe or not?
The PS3 has been outselling the 360 for nearly the entire year. I don't think there's any leg room to spin those numbers.
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predator - 401 days 12 hours ago
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what makes you say Sony's word is worth anything?
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Why o why - 401 days 12 hours ago
3.9 - Omega4
RROD, HDMI not needed. HDD not needed. Seems they al lie so whas ya point other than you cant find ANY article from a SONY spokes person that say the ps3 would come with 4 hdmi's
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zuesholmes - 401 days 12 hours ago
3.10 - /sigh
I don't remember reading 4 HDMI ports and the KZ2 CGI? give me a break that's old news and look at how close they got and 1080P games? they have 1080P games just not every game is 1080P. Why you even post that comment? it has nothing to do with the topic, you sound like such a fan boy to post so far off topic :P
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CrippleH - 401 days 9 hours ago
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It's 2 hdmi dumbass. At least troll right.
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Jenzo - 400 days 20 hours ago
3.12 -
Why should we trust any of them?
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Fobuo - 401 days 14 hours ago
4 - "nteresting choice of words as outperforming doesnt exactly translate to outselling I guess the 360 currently is outselling the PS3 in EU territories thanks to the pricecut becuase im sure Sony would have clearly stated otherwise"
It's also an interesting choice of words on Microsofts part:Outselling doesn't mean they have a bigger install base in EU.For all we know Microsoft might have sold 2 more consoles than Ps3 in saaaay Russia,and then issued the statement.

But If you re-read the statement from Reeves,it clearly states that Ps3 has a bigger install base in PAL territories.And if you take a look at the software sales in EU,it's clear Microsoft are behind.
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Nike - 401 days 14 hours ago
5 - Funny...
http://www.split-screen.com...

India is a PAL territory and the 360 is doing leagues better here. Mostly because Sony isn't that enthusiastic, if at all.
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devilhunterx - 401 days 11 hours ago
5.1 -
I wonder if piracy has anything to do with it ... hmm
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elorm9 - 401 days 8 hours ago
5.2 - dang... man..
I think piracy is probably the reason. In developing countries, pirating is quite common because games are usually too expensive.
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pixelsword - 401 days 5 hours ago
5.3 - piracy is easy to spot:
High console sales versus low software sales in a region is usually the prime indicator.

It's why the Wii is blowing up, I suspect. It's basically last gen hardware, so cracking an old console would be easy as pie.
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Fobuo - 401 days 13 hours ago
6 - "India is a PAL territory and the 360 is doing leagues better here. Mostly because Sony isn't that enthusiastic, if at all. "
I'd like to know how many consoles the 360 is selling Vs the Ps3 in India,do you have the sell-through numbers?
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cpt_kaos - 401 days 11 hours ago
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Microsofts Call centre is in india so they probally get discounted repairs when they break.
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N4PS3G - 401 days 13 hours ago
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Sony says they are
MS says they are

wonder which one should we believe
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DeathroW22 - 401 days 13 hours ago
7.1 - Only thing though
Microsoft had to say was that they were outselling them in the uk, sony have been saying that they are outselling them in EUROPE as a whole.
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N4PS3G - 401 days 12 hours ago
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actually..no ..MS said UK and across the continent..same thing sony says..thats why i ask ..who should we believe?

"After revealing that Xbox 360 had topped the seven million sales mark in Europe, Microsoft has claimed that the console is outselling PS3 – both in the UK and across the continent."

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/3...
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facepalm - 401 days 12 hours ago
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I'm seeing a "404 Missing Page" error in the link you just posted...

EDIT ADDED: Here's a working link if any of you are getting a "404 Error" like me... http://www.mcvuk.com/news/3...
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Gamedudefan - 401 days 11 hours ago
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Well, seeing as all sales data supports Microsoft's claims I think I'll go with them tbh.
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bviperz - 401 days 13 hours ago
8 - Oh Joy!
Instead of comparing apples to oranges folks, read the article. Never mind who's sword is bigger, rejoice for all gamers. Sony is hinting at a price cut (competitive pricing is what was reported) from March 2009 and on, which coincides with Killzone 2's release. SWEET!

BTW, for those that don't know, The PAL region is a video game publication territory which covers Australia, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and varying European countries, along with Middle Eastern and African countries.
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ultimolu - 401 days 13 hours ago
9 -
That's a huge accomplishment if true.
Well done Sony.
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Gamedudefan - 401 days 11 hours ago
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It's not true, all sales data had them passing 360 sales sometime in the next few months, however with the 360 price drop the weekly sales have now overtaken the PS3's and the 360 is slowly pulling away again.
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ps3king - 401 days 5 hours ago
9.2 - Yes good job Sony.
I agree. Sony is doing a kick ass job in PAL territories. I gave my PS3 an extra pat today. I'm thankful for this, had the PS3 had done poorly in PAL countries, I probably would of just actually ignored my PS3 and not play its games until the PAL territory sales started picking up again. Thank god PAL TERRITORIES LOVE THE PS3
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mrdxpr2 - 401 days 12 hours ago
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i beleive sony MS said UK..SONY said pal territories so all in all sony is winning against ms...MS=USA sony=JP,Europe and others
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N4PS3G - 401 days 12 hours ago
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actually...MS said the same thing...someone is lying

"Microsoft has claimed that the console is outselling PS3 – both in the UK and across the continent"

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/3...
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facepalm - 401 days 12 hours ago
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Once again.. "404 Missing Page" error...

EDIT ADDED: Here is a working link if you're having the "404 Error" like me.
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/3...
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wicked - 401 days 12 hours ago
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These guys should get on with their job and promote Sony and stop putting down the competition. How does he know they are doing better, they do not have MS's figures. It is just guess work on his part, this is the sort of thing I would expect from Patcher. He should be telling us when products like HOME will be released, .
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leeger - 401 days 12 hours ago
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"Reeves then went on to say that the PS3 has a bigger install base than the 360 in PAL territories, and that the install base gap will significantly increase in 2009."
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