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According to the writer, Stew Shearer: "Having spent some time with the game, I can affirm that indeed, it is rather solid. (At least the portion I got to play.) But sadly, that is probably the biggest compliment I can give it."
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ThePimpOfSound
- 391 days 12 hours ago
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Not surprising. The videos looked great, visually, but gameplay seemed like the same old FPS junk. However, this was interesting:
"Something else that surprised me to no small degree was how unimpressed I was by the visuals. I in no way mean to say they were bad; they just weren’t what I had been led to believe they would be by the countless screenshots floating around the web. "
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sonarus
- 391 days 8 hours ago
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lol this guy shouldn't say anymore after the comment on the visuals or he will just embarrass himself
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WANNA GET HIGH
- 391 days 8 hours ago
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I am in the killzone2 beta and i can assure u this reviwer is chatting air....
First of i did not see the lackluster textures he saw.If u are in the beta go and use ur sniper to zoom in o the floor and u will see the rock shaped out crisp,and to think it is a compresed beta(about 400mb) u can still see the detail on the gun sharp.And bare in mind the game is still a couple of months away,if it is lookig this good how will the finish game look like on CD.This guy has not played the game.If u are in the beta u will know why i said that.Yes they are glitches but its only a MULTIPLAYER BETA and yet people are talking like its the finished.This is the stage were people who have played it gives the devs feedbck on whats good and whats not.The only thing i dont like is the sniper using motion control,its a nice idea but it dose not work very well,and throwing frags need to more smooth.That is the only thing i can say bad about this game, the rest is solid and fun.
I dont care what negative press this game gets whe it comes,from what i have played i am buying it.I dont let review scores stop me from buying a game.The 7/10 EDGE has alerday got waiting for this game dose not mean sh1t to me.
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TheSadTruth
- 391 days 8 hours ago
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I wonder if you realize saying "Just beta" is exactly what Bungie said about Halo. How did that turn out?
Let's be honest, not much is going to change, if the game isn't stellar now, it's not going to be stellar at launch. I haven't played it so I cannot comment, but you are setting yourself up for a huge letdown it sounds like.
I don't know how you people can discredit his opinion on the graphics, he said they were too drab, which is a reasonable complaint, just like it is with GoW. He still said they were excellent and had the best lighting he's ever seen...
edit: lol @ disagrees, I feel sorry for you kids
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- 391 days 8 hours ago
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TheSadTruth, you usually tick me off because of your hatred against the PS3. I usually find it to be pretty damn irrational, in all honesty. That said, I find myself actually agreeing with your comment here. It all seems on the up and up to me.
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Ramzadel
- 391 days 7 hours ago
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Once you are in the beta you will take back what you said 10 fold, the graphics are the best I've seen, I played COD4, Halo3, and Gears of War
You are not going to have everyone say this game isn't great, but majority says it is, this is the first time I heard anything negative about it, a very good time to get hits on your site is to go the other way just a thought
Anyway the badge mixing just add to multiplayer and the way they organized it just makes you want to play more, please stop making assumptions from these reviewers and try to get the REAL review from us, the people that have the beta and then sum it up and average it out to what you think is right, there is a lot of politics going on among these sites so you have to be wary, I just hope everyone can d/l the beta so they can experience how realistic the gameplay is, I mean the guns have different heaviness to them and the sniper rifle is by far the hardest gun to use you have to be dang gone accurate
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fishd
- 391 days 7 hours ago
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KZ 2 bring the worst out of 'the other console's fan'.I rike it:)
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Genesis5
- 391 days 7 hours ago
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Yep. It sure brings out the sour grapes doesn't it.
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callahan09
- 391 days 5 hours ago
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Wow. I'm surprised with all of the disagrees on my comment.
Let me clarify:
The thing I agree with fundamentally is that the beta is basically the final. I played the Halo 3 beta and then the final game, and there was literally no difference between the two. I agree that if you don't like the Killzone 2 beta, you're almost guaranteed not to like the final product.
That said, I think the game looks like it will be high quality and good fun, and I'm very excited to play it.
Also, I think Killzone 2 looks gorgeous and I can't wait to play it. But it doesn't have nearly the range of color that Resistance 2 has (as an example), and so I think it is fair to compare its color-scale to that of a Gears of War, for instance. It's a touch on the gray side, you can't deny that. It's gorgeous, it's impressive, and it's gray.
There, I said it.
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theSadTruth...exactly right...
beta tests are not run to fix visuals...Resistance 2 had arguably bad visuals in the multiplayer beta...the final version does too...halo 3 had 'wtf srsly?' visuals in the beta...and so did the final version...
what visual problems anyone finds in the beta, aside from obvious glitches (seeing through a wall, lighting flipping out at a certain spot or something) will be there when the game releases...
but that isn't a problem...this guy sounded misleading by being 'unimpressed'...because he certainly was by the lighting and animation...but didn't prefer the art direction...which is fine, as its simply an opinion...I happen to love it, but understand why some would prefer more cartoony styles of resistance or halo...actually I don't understand why, but thats a different matter altogether...
now GG did confirm the textures to be heavily compressed in the beta...and would be streamed fully uncompressed from the BD for the real game...that will make textures appear better than they do now, but its unknown just how much...
but at the same time...I have no clue what he is talking about with them looking bad in the first place...as the ground in the game looks real...no other way to put it...you stare at the ground, and you don't know you are playing a video game...Resistance 2?...doesn't have a comparably good texture in the entire game...he has no idea what he is talking about it if he thinks resistance 2 has great textures, and killzone 2 doesn't...that is the exact opposite of the truth...
its obvious overall that this guy doesn't prefer realistically grounded shooters, as he apparently had more fun in the incredibly average Resistance 2 competitive mode (co op is great, competitive?...come on guys, its pretty lame)...so it was pretty much a no win situation from the start for him...but he also makes glaring mistakes with comparing the game to others...as in: 32 players 'only'...only?...very few shooters overall, and ZERO with this visual caliber have 32 players...3 shooters this generation have more...R1, R2, and Frontlines...and you could count the titles that have 32 players on one hand most likely...with how intense this game can be, 32 players is more than enough...when you see 31 other players on screen at once and the same ridiculous lighting and particle effects all going off in your face...you simply have to smile...because if that doesn't impress you...I guarantee you won't be impressed until the next generation of consoles arrives; and that nothing has made you grin yet this generation...
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ultimolu
- 391 days 4 hours ago
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That guy is on crack. I'm in the beta too and this game is nothing short of AMAZING. The gunfire...it was ultra realistic. The best game I have ever laid eyes on.
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- 390 days 22 hours ago
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Being in the beta myself, that guy can't possibly say anything bad about visuals. That's just pathetic.
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- 391 days 11 hours ago
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2 - Dang it...
I was just about to submit this :(
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WANNA GET HIGH
- 391 days 8 hours ago
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Sadly ur chatting air also and ur not the truth.This game graphics/lighting is amazing.I dont care if they say its to grew or what ever, the point is the art style the use of the graphics is mind blowing.And they is colour, the market stage has plenty of colour.If u play the the stage that is not dark u will see the best light ever ona console.When u stare into the sun the reflection on the gun is so smooth and u can actulay see the sun ray reflect in ur eye in a very realistic way.The destruction is amazing, just shoot a rocket luncher on one of the pilars and u will see how it breaks apart leaving crumbs deflecting of the floor.And the game play s FUN.Once u have unlcoked all the ranks and have every body to use u will find mixing it up at different stage never gets repeatative.Yes there is friedly fire but u can create ur own game to set it off so u dont get points taken.
Every one that is hating on this game will get owned in every way,what i have played has made me look at other FPS differently.I dont care if the game dose not inovate, look at mirrios edge,it was packed with innovation but see how it turned out.The game dose what every one who plays FPS is used to which is a good thing ot a bad thins,but it dose it beta.the game play is free moving and smooth, not many things get in your way;u can jump over almost every thing.The guns sound is simply ammazing, just shot a shotgun and u wull feel it so hard, the kick back they used for the guns is one of the best ever, and u dont need to aim down the sights %85 of the time like cod4,the guns are accurate enough that u can shoot freely and still kill them with a few bullets.
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WANNA GET HIGH
- 391 days 6 hours ago
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LOL....
Have a bubble ;-D
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TheReclaimer
- 391 days 11 hours ago
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I enjoyed the first Killzone, but I don't have a PS3 to try this out for myself. It is rather disappointing, though, that it hasn't been as polished as I would have liked.
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Kleptic
- 391 days 5 hours ago
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this is why pointless bloggers with zero credibility hurt the gaming community...
that may be your opinion now...which isn't your fault...you haven't played it, and this guy said its not up to what he expected...but I encourage you to go read the 20 other previews of this beta if you are interested in the game...not one of them had anything to say other than its the best looking console game ever made, and the gameplay might even be better than the visuals...
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DeZimatoR
- 391 days 11 hours ago
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4 - "Something else that surprised me to no small degree was how unimpressed I was by the visuals. I in no way mean to say they were bad; they just weren’t what I had been led to believe they would be by the countless screenshots floating around the web. "
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA HAH
LMFAO
Sorry, this is just TOO funny, HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Uninmpressed by Killzone 2's visuals?!
REALLY?!
HAHAHHAHAHAHA
These people try to hard...if it was a 360 exclusive he'd be fapping over it. Sad sad sad. To this moron Stew Shearer or whatever: next time, take off your green tinted glasses before you say anything about a PS3 exclusive.
kkthxbye
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stewie32887
- 391 days 10 hours ago
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Actually, I don't even own a 360. I love my PS3 and think it's a great gaming machine. It's nice to see though that you'd rather have someone further hype something instead of giving their honest assessment. And if you actually read the impression, you'd find that I complimented the graphics in more than a few areas, I was disappointed by a few elements, but overall, I agree it is a great looking game.
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- 391 days 9 hours ago
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if you were the one that wrote this beta impression, then I must ask you; what game on the market, or even in production for any console, looks better then Killzone 2? Can you name a game? I don't think it can be done, and for that sir, you are owned. Go play resistance 2.
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- 391 days 7 hours ago
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poor Stewie doesn't have an answer.
shame.
His beta impression goes down with the fat prick from 1up, but even he said its the "best graphics on any console game".
So stewie, even the fat prick from 1up is more honest than you......that's saying something mate.
Sad.
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ultimolu
- 391 days 4 hours ago
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And stewie is rendered speechless.
*crickets chirp in background*
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- 391 days 10 hours ago
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wow, first time to read an impression that is neutral or kinda like negative. the important thing is that IGN.com gave this beta a positive impressions.
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- 391 days 7 hours ago
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yeah they seemed to be close to what actually game players think
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- 391 days 10 hours ago
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Apart from the amazing graphics i dont see why this game is being hyped to the sky because when the reviews hit i dont see it scoring higher than an 8.9-9 on most sites and while thats not bad its not as good as everyone is making it to be
I mean there is absolutely nothing about the gameplay what is unique, the environments are all the same (buildings, buildings and more buildings), from what i've seen there are no unique weapons that Killzone can call their own, barely any videos show people using the cover system which give the impression that the feature is more of a gimmick, the story seems non-existent i mean what are the names of the main characters and what are they fighting for?
There is just too much which could go wrong for this game for it to become a AAA shooter i mean just look at Killzone 1
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ThatCanadianguy420
- 391 days 10 hours ago
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Careful ! You're jealousy is showing :)
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TrooGamer
- 391 days 8 hours ago
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Wait until after Dec 4th when the embargo ends and single player can be talked about. Your a fanboy and everyone knows it so trying to come across as intelligent is failing.
You take the views of one person when pratically everyone else is saying the game is amazing. Every FPS needs a story and no doubt this has it but if you cant talk about it until Dec 4th how can you judge?
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- 391 days 8 hours ago
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-you're no psychic.
-apart from point and shoot what other elements of gameplay a FPS offers?
-this is a beta showing only one map.
-there's no cover system in the beta.
-since when the multiplayer of a FPS has a story?
-Killzone1 was a good game, you should play it before starting to make opinions about it. i'm 100% sure you haven't played it...
-guerrilla games hasn't talked anything about the game besides the graphics and believe it or not the first Killzone had a great story that could rival the one you find on your precious Halo.
=here's your comment completely destroyed piece by piece.
::more info about the story of Killzone1 here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
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- 391 days 7 hours ago
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@ Omega
There is no cover system in the Multiplayer, just the Single Player and the cover system itself isn't a "gimmick". No other FPS game has a cover system like Killzone 2's.
And as far as the Environments go, you've only seen areas from the Beta and obviously the full game will have different environments. There's only like 2 or 3 levels that are even in the Beta, the full game will have many more.
The main character is named Sev. and other characters in the game are Garza and Rico, but you wouldn't know that Omega because you don't even keep up with the info in this game because you don't have a PS3. Just because YOU don't know much about the game doesn't mean anything because it's your own fault that you are so ignorant of Killzone 2.
What are they fighting for? The ISA are taking the fight to the Helghast on their own home planet. In Killzone 1 the Helghast came to the ISA's homeplanet and wreaked havoc on their own turf and now it's the other way around. The main story objective of Killzone 2 is to take down the Helghast leader Emperor Visari.
You take one guy's "opinion" of the Beta and spin it. One guy's opinion of the game will not affect the overrall reception the game. You FAIL Omega.
Killzone 2 day one purchase for me.
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WANNA GET HIGH
- 391 days 6 hours ago
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Please can u stop it...ur cracking me up... :(hahahahaha) XD
I know ur not a fan boy but the comments u post sometimes are shocking!!!!!!
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ultimolu
- 391 days 3 hours ago
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...You really wouldn't be asking that question if you were in the beta. :/
Even a female gamer such as myself can't resist this game.
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"but there are many other games out there which have more to offer."
Name me One, ONE game that has:
64 Player Clans
Dynamic Missions (R2 only one that comes to mind)
In game Tournaments (256 clans per tournament)
Valor Points (Or any other type of clan currency)
Customizable classes
KZ2's level of Graphics (Crysis only tops it barely)
"The weapons are about as generic as they come, featuring the expected array of pistols, assault rifles, shotguns, sniper rifles and explosives that most any game with a military theme is expected to boast."
So... i guess CoD4, RB6 and RB6V, BC, BF2, and Halo 3 are as generic as they come aswell?
"Even the player cap, set at 32, falls into the fine, yet unremarkable range."
.... *Looks at Halo 3s 16 cap and Gears2 10 cap* /Facepalm
"Something else that surprised me to no small degree was how unimpressed I was by the visuals."
Wow... just goes to show that this guy jumped onto the Beta Wanting to hate the game, and i find it funny that the only thing he can say thats wrong with it visually is that its "gray"... wow, just wow...
/facepalm
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ahnonamis
- 391 days 8 hours ago
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Is that really any different than people hating Gears of War 2 for being "the same game" and hate on its graphics for being overly gray? While I think the graphics engine in KZ2 is phenomenal, I'm really enjoying seeing people who have made comments bashing GoW2 for being gray laughing at someone who makes the same claim about their own system's title.
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- 391 days 7 hours ago
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no, gears 2's graphics aren't interesting because its unreal engine, and it hasn't changed for the better since UT3 was released.
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gears of war 2 and resistance 2 looks good, but killzone 2 looks better. killzone 2 has the best textures ive seen on console.
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guys, i wasnt saying gears is bad or kz2 is bad because they are gray. i prefer the gray color for war games like that, it shows the mood. war isnt colorful, its a dark, horrible, gruesome and a very sad thing. Thats why i prefer darker feels to war games.
And my above post wasnt a bash against Gears or Halo, i love both games, im just asking the author WHAT games offer more content that i had posted.
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He wasn't as impressed as he felt the hype was. How does that make him an idiot? It's his opinion and everyone has the choice the read his opinion or not to. He never forced anyone to read the article. Who cares what one person thinks? Wait till the game comes out, it's YOUR opinion that matters most.
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8 - i am in the beta and i feel sad
y doesnt ny one mention the new innovative squad system which allows players to stick together and how fun it is when you are playign with a medic and a sniper backign u p and how balanced the teamplay is is
this game is no R2 or halo3 it is a highly tactical game liek counterstrike even more tactical say a cross between counter strike team fortress and cod4 with uber realistic grahics and awesome weapons and classes
i think sme ppl have the wrong expectations this is not crazy cod4 style stuff
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OMG you couldn't be so correct, it is so realistic when you are battling it out, I remember I accepted a squad invite in the game and everytime I died I choose to respawn next to the squad leader wherever he is even while moving
You can't just run and shoot you have to hide behind any piece of cover, sometimes you can die one hit if they get a head shot off so you have to be very careful
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ultimolu
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I agree and that's what I have to get used to. This game actually uses strategy. If you run around like a fool, you will get mauled.
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- 391 days 9 hours ago
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Ive been in the beta from the private phase and now the public phase, the original poster must be playing a different game to me.....
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proves that anybody can have a voice on the net. lots of times someone goes completely off just to get hits and we keep falling for it.
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ahnonamis
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10.1 - Hater?
So it's impossible to not enjoy something because most other people do?
If everyone enjoyed the same games the world would be a very, very boring place.
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This person has not even mentioned any of the unique features and squad based game play Killzone 2 offers, and you expect any one to take this as anything else but drivel...?
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So Easy I Can Do It
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11 - people need to put their fanboyism aside
and give credit where credit is due.
He sounds like he's FUD of Killzone2.
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13 - So wait a second...
This 'article' was written by some random dude? That's awesome!
So yeah, random dude, care to tell us all which console game looks better than Killzone 2? I'm really interested to know, honestly.
Oh, and a tip: when you post your impressions about something, don't start out by saying 'its not as good as it was hyped to be'. Cause you know what, your job is to talk about what you are seeing and playing, the game itself, not what the PR people or other people told you it is/would be.
Oh, and one more thing: the first persons to 'hype' games are...you guessed it, the media!
Remember, Killzone 1 was deemed the 'Halo killer' by EGM, not Guerrilla, not Sony. Everyone seems to forget that, however.
P.S. Its not a great looking game. Its the best looking console game, period. And thats not a matter of opinion, its a fact. ;)
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Bubble for you!
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- 391 days 7 hours ago
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13.2 - thank GOD i'm not the only one
who remembers that neither Sony NOR Guerrilla Games hyped Killzone 2 as the "Halo Killer."
my issue of OPM that had a cover story of KZ1 had blasted across the cover "Killzone: The Halo Killer??"
not a single quote from Guerrilla or Sony in the stories i read about KZ1 called it a Halo killer.
but hey, the gaming media influences gamer opinion. this is simply FACT. and it has been proven time and time again since this latest generation of consoles began.
i'm in the KZ2 beta, and it's damn impressive. much better than the first.
people also dismiss Killzone: Liberation. maybe because it was actually GOOD, and folks would much rather think of the Killzone franchise based on the performance of the FIRST game in the series, instead of later iterations that fixed a lot of the issues that hampered the first (mainly technical issues that the PS2 hardware just couldn't overcome).
i like the feel of Killzone 2. i LIKE that it's different from games like Resistance 2 and Call of Duty 4. i mean, if it looked, controlled, and had the same atmosphere as those games, why the flying F*CK would i WANT IT?
so many previews i've seen have unfavorably compared it to COD4, with the most recent being the latest 1up Show.
they b*tch that the game isn't like COD4, but if it followed the COD4 template, they would b*tch that it's "too much like COD4."
Killzone 2, like the original, is it's own shooter. it's a gritty futuristic war game. sorry it doesn't have laser pistols and ray guns, or alien enemies that jabber in their high pitched alien language. sorry the game isn't flooded with color and rainbows like Uncharted or Ratchet, or even Halo 3.
the very things i LIKE about the Killzone 2 beta is how different it feels from ANY other shooter on the market, PC, console, or otherwise.
i LIKE the realistic, heavy feel of the guns and character. i LIKE that it's not a "twitch shooter."
the game feels very deliberately designed, and i think if Guerrilla Games wanted to simply emulate Call of Duty 4, Halo 3, or Resistance 2, they COULD HAVE, and WOULD HAVE. but, got forbid, they want to do something UNIQUE.
no, i don't think the GAMEPLAY of Killzone 2 will redefine the genre for decades to come, the fast, twitchy nature of other FPS titles have sealed the genre's fate, but i DO think that Killzone 2 will be the benchmark that all other console FPS games will be judged by in terms of presentation (which includes MORE than just the visuals). it's a fantastic MP game, that's for certain, and i can't wait to see the single player, or, better yet, get my HANDS on it myself.
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I have to agree with you Fig, on everything you just said.
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again as in you must get another tissue? because you know youre going to be missing this awesome game? ha
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1.2 - "Killzone 2 isn’t looking to me like it will stand out enough to earn the status its hype has been demanding. "
*OUCH* Get the plunger ready for ANOTHER TURD that is about to clog Sonys toilet!
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guy must be on some type of unknown drug.he was practicaly trying to find something negative to say about a game thats unpare with the target trailer,plus is so much fun to play.and he said he didn't of much time to play the game to get a feel for the game,but judge the fu*k out of it.....give me a break this guy is a prick.
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yeah like littlebigplanet would be a flop
WOOPS! whats that? its higher rated than any exlusive on the 360, EVER
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I look froward every day to see how many stupid comments you make. AND YOU NEVER FAIL ME MY FRIEND!
How old are you anyways? You must be 7 or 8... amirite?
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whats there to complain about? its a mix of all the best multiplayers
to me so far it looks like a mix of TF2 and COD4/5
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Please people.Let the full game come out and then we can see.Personally I can't see what the big deal is about Killzone 2 but I prefer the opinions of people who have played the full game not just a 6 month old beta
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wait, "lackluster textures" wait a minute... lets here that again "lackluster textures!"
what a f*ckwit, he's blind and stupid, no console game on the market can compare to the graphical prowess of KZ2
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haha totally agreed, i read the preview until he basically said Resistance 2 had textures that 'pop', and killzone 2 didn't...
run_credibility- out the window.exe
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ho ho ho
no hits for you, thegamereviews.com.
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Shows what a non fandroid person thinks of KZ2. He is a reviewer and comes across games from all platforms unlike the SDF which live and die for sony's ps3 only. They refuse to acknowledge success of any other platform or game and see that every flop game of ps3 as a console seller.
Take of the sony fan glasses and smell the coffee, 2 years down the road and you are still spinning around to kyle minogue.
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