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Report: Mirror's Edge Demo (PS3 VS Xbox 360)

Based on Unreal Engine 3, with PS3 allegedly lead platform Mirror's Edge is an ambitious attempt at merging Parkour, stealth and more traditional FPS elements into one glorious whole. It's like a more stylised, first person perspective Assassin's Creed, but without all the free-running bits done for you automatically. This seems to have attracted criticism in that the control system is rather complex, but I rather like the freedom the game affords you.

A quick analysis of the demo reveals that in common with most UE3 titles, Xbox 360 still holds the technical edge, but PS3 manages to hold its own. Both PS3 and 360 versions have their fair share of 'jaggies', but the overall experience is a little smoother on the Microsoft console, thanks to the inclusion of selective 2x multisampling anti-aliasing (MSAA).

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facepalm - 420 days 20 hours ago

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::shrugs shoulders:: Without really looking, I couldn't really tell the difference between the two versions and for that I truly applaud DICE and EA for their work.

Damn, EA sucking up all my money... First "Dead Space" and now this game.

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chaosatom - 420 days 20 hours ago

1.1 - All that matters is That PS3 version runs like

Butter.

EVEN after the unreal engine, which is quite amazing.

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El_Colombiano - 420 days 20 hours ago

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chaosatom,

The only thing that is amazing to me is how every other dev crys that the UE3 sucks on PS3, when in reality it is their fault for leading the development on the 360.

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morganfell - 420 days 20 hours ago

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Does it matter? According to 360 fans it matters. Although the PS3 version of GTAIV looks better, they said DLC mattered most. Wouldn't the same apply here?

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sonarus - 420 days 20 hours ago

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All that matters is PS3 has warm colors. Its winter time and now is not the time to be giving us washed out colors like that

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Peter Griffin - 420 days 19 hours ago

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only thing that matters is that websites have nothin else to talk about.

Lets now compare N4g wit a random blogger

see? no difference

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ApocalyPS3 - 420 days 19 hours ago

1.6 - morganfell

PS3's GTA IV runs without AA and in subHD (1152x640).

http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

X360's GTA IV runs with 2x AA and in HD (1280x720)

which ever looks best is obviously personal preference, but logically PS3's GTA IV is inferior. not by much, though having no AA is always noticeable.

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morganfell - 420 days 14 hours ago

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I have seen that before and I understand something you don't. You don't understand that none of that matters. Resolution doesn't matter. AA doesn't matter. The final question is, what does it look like? The fact is the you can quote tech details all day long and it doesn't matter. I am not trying to be an ass here but most reviewers said the PS3 version looks better. Look:

http://news.teamxbox.com/xb...

That is just one example. And the PS3 ran at a slightly lower res. When you get one person saying it then it is an opinion. When you get a lot of people saying it that idea goes away.

BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING, 360 gamers acknowledged the difference but most said that DLC was more important. Well if it is so important then it shouldn't matter what a game looks like. Who is getting DLC in this case? Personally I think all of this depends on what the DLC is but that didn't matter to 360 fans before.

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ApocalyPS3 - 420 days 14 hours ago

1.8 - morganfell

...if none of it mattered than why tout better hardware? What are all of those shader pipelines for?

Your statement fails.

"The final question is, what does it look like?"

What the phunk else do you think determines what it looks like? We're talking about what gets painted on screen. Pixels.

Without AA, or with AA, you tell me "what does it look like?"
HD or subHD, you tell me "what does it look like?"

GTA IV PS3 < GTA IV x360
Mirror's Edge PS3 < Mirror's Edge x360

(i'll tone down my comment a couple notches. i'm not trying to sound like a fanboy, i'm just an observer with exceptional knowledge of the industry. this is in no way meant to offend PS3 gamers. i am NOT calling anyone out...cept you morganfell)

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morganfell - 420 days 14 hours ago

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Why does it matter? Becuase none of that hardware, being easier to work with or harder to work with but more powerful, none of that matters at the final moment. And the final moment is where the images leap off the scree, the sound comes out of the speakers, and the controls are handled by the gamer.

Facts...are stubborn things and despite all of the technobabble, at the end of the day the PS3 version walked away looking better. I would ask you how you can sit there and say the hardware is more important when we know the experience is more important.

Also, you can have that opinion of GTA IV if you want.

Also if you notice I never stated above which version of ME looked the best. My entire point was the fact 360 fans lived and died over DLC. Well do that now.

And you aren't calling anyone since you didn't bother with the main point I brought up. DLC.

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kwicksandz - 420 days 13 hours ago

1.10 - Once again he lives up to his namesake

morganFAIL. Not sure what drugs your on to think more AA and higher res looks worse but i suggest you stop taking them.

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somethingSQUISHY - 420 days 2 hours ago

1.11 - Wow, everyone's jumping on morganfell!

Look, technical tidbits aside, the 360 version suffered from much more noticeable pop-in. AA and resolution don't mean a lot in a game like GTA IV which used a lot of dithering, which gave it a characteristic gritty look, and helped mask some of those shortcomings on the PS3 version. The rest comes down to color palette preference and rampant fanboyism.

By the way, I picked up the 360 version for DLC but my buddy left his PS3 version at my place, where we did our own unscientific comparisons.

Anyway, despite Deadspace being freaking great, the chances of EA going 2 for 2 here is something I wouldn't put money on.

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Cliff_BleSHITski - 419 days 20 hours ago

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360 has slightly better contrast as always which is not necessarily better.

Assassin's Creed on 360 looked like you were walking on a flashlight! The ground was so shiny got tan lines!

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thereapersson - 420 days 20 hours ago

2 - EA does a good job again

I didn't even realize this was made with the Unreal Engine - It runs so damn good on the PS3, and better than most "ports" of similar technical nature.

It just goes to show how good games can run if you make them first on the PS3 and then port them to the XBOX.

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El_Colombiano - 420 days 20 hours ago

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It is not only the UE3, there is no way the UE3 could even fathom doing this by its lonesome.

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Kyur4ThePain - 420 days 20 hours ago

3 - Did you guys read that?

1.6% here, 0.3fps there.
It's all a crock of fanboy sht.

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Omegasyde - 420 days 20 hours ago

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Any site that compares DEMOS is full of $^$#^$#^.

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OnslaughtX - 420 days 20 hours ago

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Comparing demos now?

Fanboys. Priceless.

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TheIneffableBob - 420 days 17 hours ago

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This isn't a fanboy.

It's Digital Foundry, a professional HD game capture solutions company.

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SL1M DADDY - 420 days 12 hours ago

4.2 - @ TheIneffableBob

From my take on it, it's not the site or the site owners in question here but rather their motives. They are comparing two Demos to one another and not the finished product therefore you will here people here say they are fanboys. I would say that it is just a lousey comparison of two incomplete products and makes for fanboy flame bait.

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ReBurn - 420 days 20 hours ago

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I'll reserve any judgement as to which is better when the retail versions actually ship. I didn't notice any discernible screen tearing in the PS3 demo. It ran solidly.

It is just my personal opinion, mine and mine alone, but I think that the controls are a bit overly complex. The game controls well, but the controls didn't feel intuitive to me. I'm used to doing more with my right hand than my left hand, so jumping, sliding and rolling on the left side were a bit odd to me. I don't play many FPS games, so if that type of control scheme is typical in an FPS then I can understand why it would be there. I haven't bothered to see if I can customize the controls, but if I can then that small argument is completely moot.

I'd like to give the retail version a shot. The more I play the demo the more it's starting to grow on me.

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VampHuntD - 420 days 15 hours ago

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Playing the demo added another title to my "To Buy" List. It's exciting, like running in the matrix. Lots of fun so far, hopefully that's true of the rest of the game.

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Bathyj - 420 days 20 hours ago

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Man, haven't EA turned their sh*t around?

I gave them lots of crap in the last year but I'm the first to admit, since their refocus, ie, leading with the PS3, because they found out its making them alot of money, things are looking better allround.

And its not just for PS3 owners. I wouldn't have though a game like Dead Space or Mirror Edge could come from them but there you have it, and it good for everyone. Well done EA.

Now if only you'd make a decent Cricket or Rugby game for us Aussies with the same production values Fifa and Madden get I'd be more than happy. You guys might even like it, Rugby is a much tougher game than Gridiron.

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Omegasyde - 420 days 20 hours ago

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Actually Madden this year for the Ps3 was smooth. Along with Battlefield.

I am also a hypocrite Bathyj, but I only bought 1 EA game this year. Don't know if I can hold off on Skate 2...

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SlyGuy - 420 days 19 hours ago

6.2 - Agreed

An improved cricket game will be MUCH appreciated. Usually codemasters cricket game would be better, but EA has been catching up.

I wish they would release their cricket games in the US as well (Especially with the growing popularity of the sport). I could have only played pirated UK versions before. :(

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Bathyj - 420 days 19 hours ago

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I know Madden was much improved this year, thats what I'm saying. EA has improved by leaps and bounds.

After the PS3 backlash last year over Madden, EA really had a good think. I still think it was just the finacial numbers that prompted it but who cares. If their motives were selfish but meant good news for everyone then so be it. Good times, Noodle salad.

PS
No one bit over the Rugby/Gridiron remark ey? Oh well. You guys dont know what you're missing. 80 Minutes of action. One break. No pads. All Guts. No defense team, no offense team, no special team. One team does it all. When theres a pause in the action, they go to commercial, not the other way round, (I still cant get over that.) And State of Origon is the toughest Rugby game on Earth because its the best 2 teams Australia can muster and even the losing side would beat any international side. State of Origon is the Creme de'la Creme.

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XxRoosterxX - 420 days 20 hours ago

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I loved the demo. It feels like the Matrix.

(The first matrix, not the stupid sequels) lol

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mazirjones - 420 days 20 hours ago

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You must have waxed them off or something.

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Max Power - 420 days 20 hours ago

8.3 - ::shrugs::

waxed off?

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mazirjones - 420 days 20 hours ago

8.4 - No takers?

Tough crowd, I like it.

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ps3freak18 - 420 days 20 hours ago

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Waxed off?! hahaha good one (not being sarcastic)

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Bathyj - 420 days 19 hours ago

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Maybe he was just shinning them on......

Heh? Heh?

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ps3freak18 - 420 days 20 hours ago

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HAHAHAAH ok so the 360 is brighter... that doesn't mean it looks better. It's pathetic the things that people say to boast the console they are in love with. Let's go with, they both look good.

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karlostomy - 420 days 19 hours ago

10 - Ok so this is a lead ps3 title

yet it looks better on 360?

Juuken? SDF? are you paying attention?

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celldomceen1 - 420 days 19 hours ago

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I have read a few articles that said the ps3 version looks slightly better, the thing is all this stuff is subjective, meaning for all you fanboys out there, that it is subject to the opinion of the person writing the article you guys act as if these peoples words are the truth or something. i swear you guys are funny as hell keep up the good work

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ApocalyPS3 - 420 days 19 hours ago

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ps3's architecture is very rigidly designed. devs must fit their workload into ps3's memory restrictions. on ps3 the frame buffer resides in the graphics memory. x360 has a far more forgiving memory configuration, with 512MB of system memory shared between Xenos and Xenon, and 10MB of EDRAM specifically dedicated to Xenos for the purpose of a tile rendered final frame buffer.

this is why most x360 games aim for a 1280x720 4xMSAA resolution, though pixels/samples are always the first thing devs compromise when trying to get their game work load to get acceptable performance.

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ultimolu - 420 days 19 hours ago

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...You're kidding, right?

THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME!

For the last damn time.

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karlostomy - 420 days 15 hours ago

10.4 - Hey don't shoot the messenger

"Xbox 360 still holds the technical edge, but PS3 manages to hold its own. Both PS3 and 360 versions have their fair share of 'jaggies', but the overall experience is a little smoother on the Microsoft console, thanks to the inclusion of selective 2x multisampling anti-aliasing (MSAA). "

Is it possible to be any more obvious?

Lead ps3 = better 360 game.
Lead 360 = better 360 game.

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ultimolu - 420 days 13 hours ago

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karl...you know what?
You're not a *true* gamer if you actually spend your entire day spot checking both versions of a multiplatform game. Since you want to fit your little biased attitude in here, here's what I observed with the PS3 version.

1. It has warmer colors and doesn't look washed out like the 360 version.
2. The textures are smoother, and I didn't see that many jaggies.

You're one of those 360 owners who have to use a game to claim superiority for your system.

That's really, really low.

Keep using the magnifying glass karl instead of playing the game. I'll be enjoying that game, along with R2, LBP, Valkyria Chronicles, Naruto, and many other games that caught my interest.

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karlostomy - 420 days 11 hours ago

10.6 - Will you quit defending the ps3 like a maniac, please?

I didn't spend any time comparing anything.

The above quote was in the article.
I am sorry it upsets you so.

sheesh

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ultimolu - 420 days 10 hours ago

10.7 - karl

Would you learn how to *read*...por favor?

How am I defending the PS3 only when I just said both versions look the same? Why would you *even* quote from the stupid article that's going to cause nothing but fanboy hatred once more?

Why *must* the 360 version look better than the PS3 version karl?

WHY?

And...aren't you being hypocritical? You're claiming I'm defending the PS3 when you're always defending the 360, no matter what the circumstances may be?

Keep it up dear, keep it up.

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karlostomy - 419 days 9 hours ago

10.8 - Come on girl!

You're smarter than that.

I always have and always will call out any and all cases of the ps3 underperforming against its 360 rival

Most especially when people keep saying that ps3 ports of 360 games look sh1t (they do) and then suggest that said games should have been developed on the ps3 first so they look equal (they don't)

In this case, the ps3 was the lead and the 360 STILL looks better!

I will continue to point that out, Juuken, because otherwise Sony will continue to tell you lies again!

Despite my provision of this free service to the n4g community i KNOW you will continue to deny everything I say and pathetically defend the ps3 - no matter what the facts.

You can't help yourself, can you... you're addicted!

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Silent - 420 days 19 hours ago

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Looks OK both is the same, geesh just adjust the colors yourself

I'm just afraid to try anything from EA.

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TheZink - 420 days 19 hours ago

12 - Funny...........

I played both demos on the same Tv with all the same settings and I thought the PS3 looked much better in details although it did have more jaggies. I also liked the PS3 controller much better for this game.

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MvmntInGrn - 420 days 19 hours ago

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Failed to mention lighting differences and texture differences. Both of which are in the PS3s favor.

I would have taken AA over them though.

It is a non-EPIC made UE3 game, it doesn't look all that great graphically. Might as well used the Bad Company engine which was the same across platforms.

It is close though, EA is doing well. Not as good as Dead Space but still good.

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smothtiger - 420 days 14 hours ago

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The reason why they didn't choose the Frostbite engine was because it still wasn't ready. Digital Illusion was still developing the engine together with Battlefield Bad Company.

To the next Mirror's Edge that will release in a year or two, we might see it running on the Frostbite engine. Possible that it will be even better than the Unreal Engine 3.

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ultimolu - 420 days 19 hours ago

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...*facepalm* Not this sh*t again...

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thereapersson - 420 days 18 hours ago

15 - What I don't get, is why console manufacturers don't put more RAM in their systems

I know that specs are designed a while before the actual systems are launched, but you would think that RAM wouldn't be THAT expensive to implement. If each console had a gig of ram, all problems would be solved, IMO...

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Snake Raiser - 420 days 20 hours ago

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Difference... but who cares which is brighter? I am sure they could have made the 360 darker or the ps3 lighter. No difference that should be cared about.

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chaosatom - 420 days 20 hours ago

1.1 - Yeah, only if other companies realized what Mirror's edge developers have done.

They made unreal engine game damn good on the ps3.

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GiantEnemyLobster - 420 days 19 hours ago

1.2 - I can confirm

That the Xbox 360 version is indeed superior, just as the article states.

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GiantEnemyLobster - 420 days 19 hours ago

1.3 - "but the overall experience is a little smoother on the Microsoft console, thanks to the inclusion of selective 2x multisampling anti-aliasing"

And to make up for the PS3's inability to use any Anti-Aliasing, It will actually be downgraded to a 640p game, then upscaled back to 720p, creating a blurred effect for fake AA, Just like in GTA IV LOL. Talk about major fail..

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GiantEnemyLobster - 420 days 19 hours ago

1.4 - "A quick analysis of the demo reveals that in common with most UE3 titles, Xbox 360 still holds the technical edge"

Not suprised. 360 always holds the technical edge.

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GiantEnemyLobster - 420 days 19 hours ago

1.5 - PatchStation 3 is reported to have major screentearing issues

While the Xbox 360 version maintains a tiny 1.6% of torn frames. Again, 360 wins in this category, as usual.

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snakeater3 - 420 days 17 hours ago

1.6 - hehe mr lobster

the differences are indistinguishable to the naked eye even if the 360 version is superior! id rather have a multiplat looking 0.1% worse than the 360 and a plethora of exclusives looking 20% better LOL!! (heavy rain, gt5, mgs and killzone say hi)

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jack who - 420 days 20 hours ago

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roflmywalfffls allegedly

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Arcturus - 420 days 20 hours ago

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isn't there already a story on here about this?

anyways, they did a good job at making them both equal, the differences can be changed by TV brightness etc.

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NBA09TheInsideFlop - 420 days 20 hours ago

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multiplatform even without being the lead is still better on xbox 360. what are the excuses going to be now?

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gambare - 420 days 19 hours ago

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fanboy eyes, the game looks the same in both versions.

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Max Power - 420 days 20 hours ago

5.1 - dude....

they are comparing a demo

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Shadow Man - 420 days 20 hours ago

7 - F' U Microsoft

Because of ur bullsh!t I have to wait a week until I download the demo. FU Microshaft.

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ambientFLIER - 420 days 19 hours ago

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You are complaining because you are too cheap to pay $4.16 a month? Nice...

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Ap3theBad - 420 days 19 hours ago

8 - mirrors edge is ok

the graphics overall arnt that good dudes... the UE3 sux ass anyways... every game that i can think of that has licensed the UE3 has pretty bad vsuals on there games... of course exccept Gears 2 becouse not only is that EPICS own engine they designed themselves but they get FULL usage of however they want to use it,unlike other dev companys witch only get to license portion of it depending on their agreement with epic.

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ReTarDedFisHy - 420 days 17 hours ago

9 - And...

...this is coming from a 360 fanboy blogsite? Oh. I'm impressed.

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psycho360 - 420 days 17 hours ago

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"Exlusive DLC for the PS3"

And yet you ps3 lovers have been downplaying the multimillion selling selling GTAIV's dlc for 360 just cuz its exclusive to 360. Comeon you guys have no shame? Dont tell me that you also own a 360 cuz having 700gamer score doesnt mean that you are a hardcore gamer.

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she00win99 - 420 days 17 hours ago

10.3 - @psycho360

because sony didn't pay $50 million just for exclusive dlc and it's already almost a year since GTA4 was released and we still don't know what it is..

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she00win99 - 420 days 17 hours ago

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a picture is worth a thousand words. it doesn't matter what the article said, we've already seen the videos and screen shots and the ps3 is definitely better but only a small margin..

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rob6021 - 420 days 17 hours ago

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Wow this article is BS, I spent almost 30 minutes flipping between the versions to check for differences, moving the person to the same spot, and if anything the PS3 seemed to have equal or better anti-aliasing than 360 - there's no difference.

Also worth noting the lighting used in the game is in-house it's not UE3, which explains why the PS3 shows better lighting when you look at the sun (funny he doesn't mention this if he was looking real hard for differences he would have noticed).

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Jenzo - 420 days 15 hours ago

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It uses UE3?? Wha-ha-hat? UE3 keeps amazing me. Mirror's Edge has some sick graphics.

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power of Green - 420 days 15 hours ago

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UE3 is a fantastic engine, it is the haters(due to UE3 being more compatible with 360) and UE3's user friendly nature that has devs taking the simple route in development unfairly earnsing the REP UE3 has.

(slapping games together because it's easy with this engine fools haters in thinking we have already seen the limit despite the engine always evolving).

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xtreampro_REVENGE - 420 days 12 hours ago

15 - @ PooStationLastPlace

at least the PS3 dont need a 1080p upscaler chip,.......

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if u understand what i just said right now, then u would know that u and every xbot that reads this comment will be OWNED!

have a nice !OWNED! Day

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xtreampro_REVENGE - 420 days 12 hours ago

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its funny how some bot a couple of comments above mine says that shared RAM is better, its not, hence why games like KILLZONE 2 are'nt possible on the dam 3Sh1tty the 3rd

Oh! and PooStation....i feel sorry for you, since you dont have enough money to buy any full games so u can only judge them by the demos......poor poor bot......

Am raising charity for PooStationLastPlace, please Donate kindly

his aleady poor as it is, so its best that you donate a towel to him, otherwise he'll loose his home TOO! (ps3 fans know what i mean lol)

Thank You..

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flopstation3 - 420 days 9 hours ago

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Hmm where are the droids now? They said the ps3 being lead platform will make ps3 games better than 360. Time to go back to your excuses classes at FONY HQ

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Zulwarn - 420 days 6 hours ago

18 - bs3 lead platflorm................

AND YET BS3 STILL!!........!!.......!!!!.. ......FAILED!!!!! AGAIN!!!!

LMAO!!

so much for lead platform

"360>>>>> bs3 whether its lead platform or not"

CONFIRMED!!

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CAPT IRISH - 419 days 21 hours ago

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grow up

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Frizzo - 420 days 2 hours ago

19 - for me

i played it on 360 and PS3 on a 42 inch 1080p LCD television, PS3 looked great because it seems more realistic lighting wise, plus i noticed there is a shine/blink when you look into something bright, making it seem like your eyes are getting used to the light like it does in real life(which only takes 2 seconds on game and in RL), it dosent do that on 360, its just darker, which honestly can be done if you just turn the brightness down anyway, but who wants that...

and whatever that dude at the top is saying about blurry upscaled 720p is just nonsense, it looks great both consoles, just more realistic brightness on 360

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Frizzo - 420 days 2 hours ago

19.1 - READ

that last comment i ment to say the brightness is more realistic on PS3, not 360

so change that last thing i said to PS3 not 360

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pixelsword - 419 days 23 hours ago

20 - I thought this was from a real website...

...get this blogspot bullcrap out of here; I should've known when I saw Eurogamer in it's "links of power".

If you look at the viddler file, the PS3 version has fuller colors, and even then, it's your own opinion.

The 360 animation rate is clunkier, or should I say clunky, because the PS3's animation is neigh flawless (I know, a multiplat AND an EA title looking this great on the PS3? I assure you, no drugs were taken during the writing of this post). Also look at :44-49 and 2:40 to the end of the clip for examples.

The 360's color is now the one that's a little washed-out; although I must admit that the monitor's adjustment makes "washed-out" a term only for the ignorant, as most color adjustments can compensate for such things.

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DFresh - 419 days 22 hours ago

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Sony needs to completely ban that engine from their console because it's making them look bad.
Same thing should be said too about the Half Life Engine as well.

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