Sony: We haven't fallen behind in social gaming

chaosatom - 427 days 9 hours ago

what position are they in?

They are doing fine as far as I can see.

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badz149 - 427 days 9 hours ago

you needed to start somewhere. maybe it was the mistake from their part at Sony to expect huge sales from the get go with that $599 price tag and that was actually quite a bitter start for them. although the PS2 also launched at a high price tag last gen, PS3 was not allowed to do such stunt this gen because of the existance of 360 and Wii at a much lower price! PS3 is dubbed to be a flop especially last year but people tend to ignore the fact that it's being sold at a similar rate as the PS2 last gen although this is not at all a guarantee for it to be the 'PS2' of this gen (just yet!)! for now, we just have to watch the progress and so far, PS3 is doing just fine (but maybe not quite in Japan) and the lineup and features are getting better.

in terms of casual games, it was never a big buzz last gen eventhough there were a lot of games available in that genre. it was never mentioned as widely as now because no console were casual-centric last gen but props to the Wii for highlighting the crowd this gen while being overpowered heavily by the other 2. but seriously speaking, there are more CASUAL CRAPS on that thing compared to the good ones! I like the PS3's and 360's approaches better in terms of casual games because they offers casual games while still heavily focus on more serious games! those 2 crowd can coexist well, right?

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chaosatom - 427 days 9 hours ago

If they didn't include blu-ray, then Ps3 would win easy because they would have launched early with a cheaper price tag.

But they decided to include blu-ray so that games could be bigger and developers could use that space to make big games.

was that wrong for Sony to do?

If Sony launched blu-ray alone than could it have stand against hd-dvd? probably not.

So Sony decided to attach it to ps3. Ps3 suffered, but ultimately blu-ray won.And now Ps3 is gaining ground in gaming division.

So Sony is now winning both ways because of the decision.

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badz149 - 427 days 9 hours ago

actually I was replying to dro but you have good points over there. Sony sure did taking the long shot with the PS3 and I can see it starting to pay-off!

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DJ - 427 days 2 hours ago

The first 8 months after launch were so bad that I wasn't sure if it would even survive this generation. Now it's hugely successful, and looks to outsell the 360 on hardware for two years running, and in software as well (which is insane).

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ultimolu - 426 days 23 hours ago

Everyone makes mistakes, even companies. You know, people expect Sony to be so perfect that they couldn't possibly make a mistake. They made mistakes and are learning from them.

I used to be so pissed off at them last year and barely played my PS3 because I felt they screwed up so badly. Now, I love my PS3 and buy as many games as I can afford for it.

They're coming around and that's something to applaud for.

I also love the fact that they see Nintendo and Microsoft as competition but in a friendly sense.

It makes me wonder why the hell Microsoft needs to trash talk Sony every five seconds when Sony sees them as a friendly competitor in the gaming industry.

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karlostomy - 426 days 20 hours ago

http://www.kotaku.com.au/ga...
http://au.ps3.ign.com/artic...
http://www.engadget.com/200...
http://play.tm/wire/315608/...

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ultimolu - 426 days 13 hours ago

karl...what can I say about you?

Read what I said again dear and open thy eyes. I said Sony has made mistakes but they're making up for them. That includes being arrogant! Sony has not really trash-talked Microsoft in a while. Why is it that every time I mention Microsoft, you have to imply 'b-but Sony did it too!' Microsoft has been trash-talking Sony for a good while now and they *still* haven't stopped.

http://computerandvideogame...
http://www.ps3forums.com/sh...
http://www.joystiq.com/2006...

I could go on and on about this but of course...I'm not you.

Your links merely made me laugh.

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karlostomy - 426 days 10 hours ago

well I guess the *slight* difference between my comment and your comment was that I never implied that MS did or did not do anything.

that was just YOU, babe.

Let me quote you: "It makes me wonder why the hell Microsoft needs to trash talk Sony every five seconds when Sony sees them as a friendly competitor in the gaming industry."

I never denied MS trash talks Sony.... after all they deserve it!

My comment was just setting the record straight. Sony trash talks like an angry hooker!
....a point which you were forced to acknowledge AFTER my post. :)

Thanks for your reply, snookums xx

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ultimolu - 426 days 9 hours ago

Lol, so they both talked trash.
Difference is, Sony learned their lesson.
Microsoft didn't.

Nice try sugar dumplings. :)

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karlostomy - 425 days 17 hours ago

grrrrr! am getting all excited!

(not)

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Action Bastard - 427 days 2 hours ago

Name them.

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cmrbe - 427 days 2 hours ago

and undeliver. At least you delivered soemthing.

If you don't promise anything new then you don't get anything.

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DJ - 427 days 2 hours ago

And I want them, dammit! Nevermind that i only have one HDTV. =P

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00 - 427 days 2 hours ago

"If you overpromise

and undeliver. At least you delivered something"

I'm sorry but that is the most stupid thing I've read on N4G in awhile, I would rather be kept in the dark and get stuff I wouldn't expect(FF13) Then get told all these promises only to experience half of what was promised.

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cmrbe - 427 days 2 hours ago

put it this way.

if you promise 50 things and delivered say 15 of them then that is better than promising nothing and you get nothing. How is that stupid?.

Edit: OO. I am sorry but 15 != 0 and i don't understand your logic with what you just posted. If you are talking about getting peoples hopes up then i agree but i wasn't talking about that.

Here are two pratical example.

1. Sony promised 2 HDMI ports but ended up with 1 port. The only console with a HDMI port until the elite.

2. Sony promised home which is something that hasen't been done before on console and is set to fuse online social community with gaming. Its free and its coming. What about MS and Nin?. No promise = 0.

I understand if you are talking about hype and the letdown from delays but i wasn't commeting on that.

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00 - 427 days 1 hour ago

Is just has as bad as promising nothing and get nothing, At least the other option you no your getting nothing then being tricked by all the will Have or will get.

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ultimolu - 426 days 23 hours ago

...When has Sony promised anything?

Nobody seems to be answering this question. I would say in some ways they stumbled but they never promised anything.

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SL1M DADDY - 426 days 15 hours ago

They may have set the bar higher than they could reach but never once did I ever hear a press conference where they got up on stage and made a promise. Sorry, but the drama here is so thick you could spread it on toast. lol

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dro - 427 days 2 hours ago

1. Home, yes we know its still coming out but do u thhink people would have cared that much about it if they found out it would get delayed this much!!!!

2. killzone 2, yes we all know the game looks amazing even tho they did not match the trailer they showed but do u think people would have been excited for killzone 2 if they found out at e3 2006/7 that it will be getting relased in 2009(dont announce ur games to early if u know it is gonna get delayed)

3. psn, yes we know it has improved alot since it first came out but the truth is live is still better;i know u can argue its free but the people who pay for live dont complain about it not beign free, sony should have launched with all the things they updated throw firmware updates.

4.the cell.the cell is amaizing(i have mgs4 so i know y i said that!!) but with devs finding it hard to make games on do u think it is really worth it if it is only gonna get used by first party devs and not multi plat..!!!

5.motion control, u cannot act like the sixassis was not ment to have the type of impact the wii controller is having. i played uncharted and i can tell u that when i was using the motion control to throw bombs it was not good at all, and i tried to use it to drive in burnout but it controlled crap,i also tried it in lair which also controled crap, i also tried to use it in gta 4 to fly choopers and drive but it also controlled crap. in fact the only time i liked using that feature was in resistance1 when u have to shake the pad bcuz ur on fire.

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cmrbe - 427 days 2 hours ago

I am interested in why you said Sony have fallen behind this gen.

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shutupandplay - 427 days 1 hour ago

I`ll answer for him.
Last gen, ps2 was the standard. Everybody had one. (I was a loyal ps2 fan)
This gen 360 is the standard, and a huge chunk of ps2 owners made the initial switch and stayed there.

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cmrbe - 427 days 1 hour ago

1. 20 million x360 owners is only 16% of the PS2 userbase. You seriously can't claim that this is a big chunk of the PS2 userbase.

2. Do you believe that these 20 million x360 users are all former PS2 owners. What about the 26 million xbox userbase and what happened to them when the xbox was discontinued in 2005?.

3. The x360 is almost 3 years old and still 5-6 million behind the xbox userbase with a bigger game selection and twice as cheap compare to the PS3. 199 is mass market price.

4. The PS2 is still supported and still going strong. contrary to what you said. Most PS2 owners still haven't migrated yet.

5. The standard console won't be known until at least 60% of last gen gamers have migrated imo. If add all the PS3,x360 and wii userbase you would find that it only accounts to about 30% of last gen gamers.

Don't be to haste. Saying the x360 is the standard now is like saying the Dreamcast was standard back in the early stages of last gen console war.

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DJ - 427 days 2 hours ago

'Cause that's the only feature that XBL has over PSN right now. Everything else is identical and Free on the PS3's Online Network.

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DJ - 427 days 2 hours ago

=O

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Limos - 427 days 2 hours ago

bubbles to u as well and to Sony :}

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Lord Shuhei Yoshida - 427 days 2 hours ago

PP and Jolly1 have said stuff like that before

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JOLLY1 - 427 days 2 hours ago

I have never said anything bad about singstar at all. People were just saying that lips is copying singstar. I said that singstar wasn't the first karaoke on consoles. As a matter of a fact singstar is quite good and quite successful.

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Lord Shuhei Yoshida - 427 days 2 hours ago

Whoops I meant Jolly2 XD

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JOLLY1 - 427 days 2 hours ago

rriigghhtt...... Keep trying.

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GiantEnemyLobster - 427 days 2 hours ago

Sony? Social gaming?

Last time I checked, PStards were a bunch of nerds who sit in their mommy's basement til the wee hours of night playing their little shovelware games. Quite the opposite of social i'd say.

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nonAsianDroid - 427 days 1 hour ago

. http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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