TGS08: Final Fantasy XIII Live Premiere...Underwhelmed

Tomdc - 432 days 2 hours ago

I Want Kingdom Hearts 3!!!!

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xhi4 - 432 days 2 hours ago

hell to the yes my friend! Bubbles for you sir!

I swear Kingdom Hearts better come out soon for the PS3 exclusively and take as much of the consoles power as it possibly can and be announced SOON, otherwise my hearts gonna be broken =(

lol well if this guy is right looks like White Knight Chronicles is the definitive RPG, its breaking so much new ground which is what I really like about it!

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ShinGino - 432 days 2 hours ago

Aslong as Nomura isn't pressured by Square-Enix people to make it multiplatform, then it'll sure be PS3 exclusive.

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juuken - 432 days 1 hour ago

...*facepalm*

That premiere sounded awful. o.o

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ExcelKnight - 432 days 1 hour ago

Things got impossibly bad since they started all of their secretive "Mega Theater" events. This really sends the wrong message about their development status: What's going on and what is it going to be like?

Having all of these events just gives off one message time and time again, especially as more and more people get out of them with "meh" faces: They're not taking things seriously.

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Daz - 431 days 23 hours ago

People need to get out in the real world and understand competiton properly.

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SL1M DADDY - 431 days 22 hours ago

This is truly a shame. I was looking forward to FFXIII and now I feel that they have handed the series over to mediocrity. I only dread what they would do for Kingdom Hearts...

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Milo Garret - 431 days 22 hours ago

FFS, what a bunch whining little babies you all are. Did MS rape your mother or something? Do you people have the slightest fücking clue how business works? Do you understand the concept of competitiveness? Seeing you pansies cry about this game and how unevitably bad it'll be just because MS is even involved makes me happy, beacause at least I know that some of the lowest and most ignorant forms of human beings on this planet are unhappy.

On a sidenote: FF sucks, has always sucked, and will always suck no matter on what system it comes out for.

(bye bubbles, we had a good run!)

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ExcelKnight - 431 days 21 hours ago

This honestly can't be Microsoft's fault.

Square Enix announced FFXIII back when the PS3's technical specs were coming out. There were even interviews with 3D designers showing off one of the massive full cities in the game, with most of the outdoor areas completed. Unless the PS3 (and subsequently 360) can't handle what work they did with the city, that's a humongous amount of work already done.

This game better last well over 200 hours. The wait for FFXII gave me at most 65 hours to nab most of what I wanted and 100 hours for the complete experience.

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Panthers - 431 days 18 hours ago

Just like GTA4 DLC and DMC4 and a bunch of other games. They havent bought one sony game yet that turned out great.

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Harri4444 - 432 days 3 hours ago

(:MS:)

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PirateThom - 431 days 23 hours ago

I was watching that live.

As soon as I saw Wada on stage, I knew Final Fantasy XIII was multiplatform. It was the crappy way they did it though, where he pretended to walk off and then "suddenly" remembered.

I actually felt annoyed that the game had been presented as multiplatform with such a slap in the face, pretentious attitude. That turn was basically a slap in the face to Sony and people who are fans of PlayStation and it was wrong. If it was just showed, fair enough, but to turn it into theatrics? What's the point of that?

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squallheart - 431 days 20 hours ago

i say everyone vows to purchase white knight chronicles :) i know i will to make them the number one rpg studio

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soul899er - 432 days 1 hour ago

actually its been about 3-4 years since this has been announced but i usually say 5. :/

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BobDog - 432 days ago

well said

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Sarick - 431 days 23 hours ago

Most people don't realize despite FFXI being not as popular as WOW they are getting a lot of monthly revenue from subscribers. After the Squaresoft bailout FFXI brought them back. Once they got profitable they merged with Enix.

The Sony platform keeps getting set back.
First the long delay for the HDD
Then the removal of the HDD on new slim PS2's
Positive PS3 lauch that supported the game but never updated to next gen. Followed with Sony removing BC yet again screwing over SE.

360, Now you have 360, a Microsoft product rowing in more users with fully developed 360 clints. Supporting full achievements.

PC. Then you have the PC version supported by Microsoft.

This cash cow is mostly dominated by a Microsoft install base that feeds SE millions every month. You think SE is going to ignore the negatives and positives their main steady cash cow is earning them.

Not only that, but when MS pays for a product they pay to promote it as part of the deal. That's why you see commercials for multi-platform games only show the 360 logo at the end. It's because MS pays for them not the developers.

The way I see it is Sony and SE where married and MS came along and seduced SE with sexy deals and opportunities. SE when confronted with a better partner decides hay, I don't need this one as much anymore this one treats me special. This more deals are made exclusive or in Microsoft's favor.

The truth is Squaresoft (before merger) through it's life almost went out of busyness and companies like Nintindo and Sony saved them.

The whole situation just makes me sick to my stomach that I reluctantly support all the companies mentioned above. If they didn't monopolize the market with product that interest me I'd not support any of them.

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dem0n - 432 days 2 hours ago

Didn't stop Grand Theft Auto IV.

The only people who care about a game being on multiple consoles are fanboys. Fanboys aren't the masses.

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hazbaz - 432 days 2 hours ago

Can't believe I'm saying this, but I totally agree with Silogon, for once.

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juuken - 432 days 1 hour ago

I'll have to agree with you as well.

I don't know what the hell is up with Square Enix but they're unbelievable.
I only want FFXIII Versus now, and that BETTER stay exclusive. Never mind we probably won't see it until 2014.

Thanks Microsoft.

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soul899er - 432 days 1 hour ago

Agreed. I think we deserve some more footage and gameplay, especially from the almost non-existant list of Multiplat games that are timed exclusive on 360. -_-

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Sarcasm - 432 days ago

"Didn't stop Grand Theft Auto IV. "

Is that so? San Andreas sold 13 million.

GTA IV, what? 6-7 across two platforms?

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elitewh0re - 431 days 23 hours ago

"Is that so? San Andreas sold 13 million."

///just so you know that one platform had a userbase of about 90 million or so at the time compared to...

"GTA IV, what? 6-7 across two platforms?"

///around what 25 million split between the ps3 and 360?

it's done *italics* preeeeeeeety */italics* well concidering...

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Daz - 431 days 23 hours ago

This shows prove nothing and your hating on the game, becauser its not exclusive how sad people think this way. Something goes bad and they hate it all of sudden.

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karlostomy - 431 days 18 hours ago

I dunno why that is.

I have to disagree with silogons' comments about going multiplat.
I think the facts would indicate that for ANY company, the benefits and potential audience is greater for multiplat titles, than exclusives.

Can you imagine how many extra millions would have been sold of MGS4 had it gone multiplat?
WHat about bioshock? Even paltry sales on ps3 will improve the bottom line sales overall, won't they?
So, really, going multiplat gets MORE sales for the developer.

Ultimately, this is what needs to be considered:
FFxiii is coming to the ps3 is it not?
Development is being led on the ps3 is it not?

This is what ps3 fans have wanted all along, but the whining continues!

I just don't get it.

Sour grapes, methinks

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meepmoopmeep - 432 days ago

waaaaaay too early to tell, mate

i like Vs because it's "darker", i like that stuff.

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Cellypower - 431 days 20 hours ago

FinalFantasy-XIII would prolly made its money back in japan alone.

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Common Sense - 432 days 2 hours ago

SE made FFXIII for 1 of 2 reasons. Maximize profits due to larger install base or they were paid by MS. If it was the first reason, then why wasn't Infinite Undiscovery multiplatform. Plus Square lied to their fans and haven't revealed much details about FFXIII and they could possibly delay one of the most anticipated Ps3 games in North America and Europe.

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dem0n - 432 days 2 hours ago

Microsoft needed to change the tide in Japan. Japan just loves RPGs. Microsoft wanted multiple JRPGs to release ONLY on 360 to win over more consumers. That's why Infinite Undiscovery was exclusive.

If Microsoft paid off SE for FF13, you would be seeing exclusive DLC or something exclusive to cause people to want the 360 version.

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ICUP - 432 days 1 hour ago

So you're saying SE release JRPGs for 360 because they love M$ and not because M$ pay them to?

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juuken - 432 days 1 hour ago

Right.

So Square just said 'Okay, we'll make this game multiplatform just to kill the hype surrounding it'.

Seriously, it's not the fact that it's going multiplatform that pisses people off. It's the fact that this was said to be an exclusive, and PS3 fans have been waiting for what seems to be FOREVER for news concerning this game. And then on top of that, the North American/European releases will have to wait until the 360 version is finished.

That's bloody stupid.

And then PS3 owners are forced to wait even longer for FFXIII Versus.

It's very clear what Microsoft wanted to do. If FFXIII stayed on the PS3, it would have definitely change the tide for Sony in Japan. MGS4's success (and could have been even better if Sony advertised!) pissed them off alright.

If Microsoft truly wanted to break into Japan. they should have been using more than just jrpgs to do so, not 'steal' Playstation franchises.

The Japanese love more than just jrpgs.

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dem0n - 432 days 1 hour ago

Did I ever say that Microsoft didn't pay for Infinite Undiscovery? Like I said, 360 wants Japan, so Microsoft pumped out money for exclusives.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't FF13 for Japan exclusive for the PS3 still?

EDIT: Juuken

Yeah I agree with you. But Microsoft didn't "steal" a franchise. FF has been on Playstation for a long time, but it's not exactly a playstation franchise. Just because a game is on both consoles automatically makes it bad? Look at GTA4, even with it being multi, still had hype all to hell. Fallout 3 is multi, and it's going to sell great as well.

All I'm saying is this: Sooner or later, more will go multiplatform. Not all companies can afford to keep titles exclusive, and risk all the potential money.

Yeah, Square in a way screwed PS3 fans, but it's still going to be a good game, and refusing to support it just because the competition has it, is a dumb reason. Just enjoy the game, you know? Let business be business.

EDIT 2: ICUP

Because paying for an exclusive is different. Yeah, Microsoft loves to toss money. That's pretty much a fact. But a lot of you spout off theories about Microsoft paying off Square for FF13, when it has been stated offically otherwise. All I'm saying is get some proof. That's what starts rumors, didn't you know?

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juuken - 432 days 1 hour ago

It may still be exclusive to Japan but Square are unpredictable these days.

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ICUP - 432 days 1 hour ago

"Did I ever say that Microsoft didn't pay for Infinite Undiscovery? Like I said, 360 wants Japan, so Microsoft pumped out money for exclusives."

Then why post this comment, look below

"And just so you know, you sound like a bunch of hippies with the Microsoft payoff theories. Wow..just wow. I thought gamers were better than this."

Do you think M$ didn't pay SE time exclusive for Star Ocean: The Last Hope.

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Daz - 431 days 23 hours ago

People always think they know everthing behied close door.
ms done this ms done that they are just bunch of haters because they dont know proper compition when they see it. This site as got so bad .

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juuken - 431 days 22 hours ago

Oh yes they did.

And then they bragged about it.

And then asked if MGS4 was still up for grabs.

Microsoft doesn't play clean. They always take the dirty route out.

Daz: I could say the same thing about people hating on Sony. Sony did this, Sony did that. Sony failed, Sony sucks, Sony was only lying about Home, Home will never come out, they're losing exclusives, etc, etc.

If you want to take that route, then it goes both ways.

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Daz - 431 days 22 hours ago

You could but ms gets more of it on this site and you cant deny that.(

ITs obvious it goes both ways. ive been on this site a coule of years but there more fanboys in one group then the other and you know which is which. ANd everything a company do to give customes the best possible games and content some starts hating the company because they went mutiplatform. Its just sad.

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dem0n - 432 days 1 hour ago

Theres something I will agree on. But really I think it's because they have so many projects in production at once. They may have the manpower, but it's still not healthy. They're turning into EA.

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meepmoopmeep - 431 days 23 hours ago

well, i don't know about you guys,

but i've enjoyed all the FF games, (except XI, never played that) i've played.
XII wasn't great though.
X was great so were 7-9.
the remakes of 3 and 4 were great on the DS

i have high hopes for XIII.

if they muck it up, then damn. i'll have to wait for VS to heal the wound.

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karlostomy - 431 days 19 hours ago

It could be a more effective way for MS to use their resources! By closing down some inhouse studios and instead investing those funds in proven former ps2 franchises.

That's SMART business!

Of course some of the SDF would argue that MS is simply not playing fair and hitting below the belt....for confirmation of this, check out the posts in this very thread.

It's kinda funny though how not a single one of those blinkered souls complained when SONY bought out movie studios to the tune of 600+ million, essentially blackmailing movie studios...

Sony.... what goes around comes around.
Karma, in fact.

sweeeeet!

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