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PS3 BioShock Apparently Looks BioShitty: 2K Responds to 'Bioshock' PS3 Pixel Problem

via Ripten:

"Some screen grabs from the recently released demo of the PlayStation 3 version of BioShock show some rather pixelated textures when compared to the Xbox 360 version. While this is just a demo, the retail release is just over two weeks away. Is that enough time to fix this issue?

Elizabeth Tobey, 2K Community Manager, had the following to say about it..."
Alternative Sources:
BioShock PS3 Texture Issues? - gamestooge.com | By: Cyrus365
2K S****y Port of BioShock ... - theplaystationshow.com | By: Columbo
2K: PS3 BioShock demo issue... - computerandvideogames.com | By: SUP3R
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Published: 439 days 5 hours ago | News | PlayStation 3
 
 

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Silogon - 439 days 5 hours ago
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Not true at all, I just played back through the demo for my 4th time and can confirm that their are worse sots than the downed Big Daddy. Evaluate the steps leading down into the vessel going to rapture. Check out the putrid textures of I don't even know what color to call it.

Then, check out the bathroom wall before you enter into the main lobby before the demo ends. The textures on the stalls and toilets are Ps1 quality to the extreme. the, pop any one of the guns into aim mode and check out those nice textures. hahaah, this game is an eye infection waiting to be played. They say the worked hard on the ps3 version, well they didn't work hard enough.

Push the game back and ask Sony to open up their pockets for more dev time. All I gotta say cause this is junk bunk.
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Jamie Foxx - 439 days 5 hours ago
1.1 - MAKE BIOSHOCK 2 USING KILLZONE ENGINE...
i would say its the old,overused unreal3 engine for bioshocks problems but then mirrors edge etc run perfectly so it must be 2k not getting used to the ps3 architecture which is a shame
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xhi4 - 439 days 5 hours ago
1.2 - seriously mate i'm tired of this...
"Push the game back and ask Sony to open up their pockets for more dev time. All I gotta say cause this is junk bunk."

what the hell man?

are you that obsessed with a game that's been out for over a year now?

get it on the PC and be done with it man give it a rest jeez. I've played it on the 360 AND PC so maybe I'm just used to Bioshock but seriously its a fantastic game but not the end and be all of games now that Killzone 2, Resistance 2, Crysis, Cod 4, MGS4, Uncharted etc. and shooters of the like are coming out.

So please Silogon, we all know that UE3 and PC code ports don't do well with the complex cell architecture, thats why we get ultra-realistic games like Gran Turismo, Killzone 2 and the like specifically designed for the PS3.

It's come out for the PS3, which a few months ago was impossible to many but it is, so just be happy with that. It's a port from PC code running on the UE3 engine and it's old news, so please, just give it a rest.

You have 2 bubbles for a reason.
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Panthers - 439 days 4 hours ago
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Do you go through evrey game analyzing the pixles up close? I mean I know what this site is about and people love to compare but seriously.
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pixelsword - 439 days 4 hours ago
1.4 - I say this:
Get the Textures right; the PS3's fall lineup is too strong, and this game will get crushed like HAZE did if it's not up to par. I so far only saw a few flubs, but if they can iron it out before the due date, then fine; if not, release it in '09, because that'll give some relief to out pocketbooks this winter, and we'll have a better game for it.
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Eddie20101 - 439 days 4 hours ago
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Look at those same textures in the Xbox 360 version, they are exactly the same, no difference. you can BS all you want, all the texturs are the same except for the Big Daddy textures, which anybody with half a mind would know that the extremely low rez Big Daddy textures were put in by mistake.
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Twizlex - 439 days 4 hours ago
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I don't get it. Why is this "via Ripten"? The story is on the Ripten site, the only thing "read full story" links to is the forum post. Just curious.
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barom - 439 days 4 hours ago
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lower the price and i'll forgive.
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Kuest - 439 days 4 hours ago
1.12 - Siligon, you are an extremely proficient writer...
Indeed, i'm quite impressed with the level of effort you put into your blog. I'm quite jealous, to be honest.

Of course, I have my own reservations concerning your "PS3 review"; however, I was too enthralled mulling over the suprising wit and pacing, by which you constructed your argument. A job well done sir, and bubbles.

Your user bio is equally humorous, by the way. Hopefully, we'll debate soon.
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Ghoul - 439 days 2 hours ago
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Silogon

Every single comment you make is crap, seriously dude please switch the webstite or something, go out meet real persons and stuff. You comments are a waste of bandwidth.
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Anton Chigurh - 438 days 22 hours ago
1.15 - @ Jimi Foxx
MAKE BIOSHOCK 2 USING KILLZONE ENGINE...

Rofl

then, I expect to see Bioshock 2 in 2012
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poet215 - 438 days 21 hours ago
1.16 - in respects to bioshock & all other hyped FPS's
First off, I don't intend to offend anyone. Secondly, I've been a member here for over a year, I hardly ever post. Maybe I'm from the video game golden era or something, but things just don't seem right anymore. I grew up playing classic action/adventure/rpg games: Rygar, Metal Gear, Goonies 2, Zelda, Metroid, Bionic Commando, Sonic, almost every game you can mention from Castlevania to Super Mario Bros. I had most of the systems, NES, SNES & Genesis. Great games are great games, no matter what system they're on. Why is it that almost every other game has to be a first person shooter nowadays? I think the genre is good, but personally I've never taken a liking to them. Back in the days since Operation Wolf, FPS's were never my cup of tea. I'm not knocking FPS's, I just wanna know where are the good 'ol adventure games hiding at? There are plenty of AAA FPS's out there, don't get me wrong. I think developers should look back to the 8-bit & 16-bit libraries to see why the industry is as large as it is now. I speak as an adult gamer/consumer, I just want good games. I'm very tired of stuff that looks extra pretty, but plays extra ugly. They've become too pre-occupied in worrying how games look, instead of they play. Or as the case with the oversaturated FPS genre, developers put out a game that's very successful & they flood the market with reiterations of the same style of game. Damn near every coming soon hyped, anticipated game is a FPS. Like I said from the start, I mean FPS fans no harm. FPS's have actually grown on me a little bit, but still, I wish they'd stop forcing them on us. Give us a little more diversity, like we used to have it. Please, don't think I'm bashing FPS games. I probably never mentioned before that I own FPS's. I have way too many games, but never play them. I gave Resistance some play, Halo 2, Hitman 2, & Call Of Duty 4. I must now admit that, I can easily see for myself why this genre is so popular nowadays. The stories and the games themselves overall, were great. I think it's better for me to say that I just don't like the first person camera view. I can only imagine what those games would be like in third person. I wish developers would add a camera view option (ie. Hitman series). Maybe I'm being greedy! Lol Lol. But seriously though, an optional 3rd Person View would be a great way to introduce these good games to a broader audience, that otherwise wouldn't play them because we dislike the 1st person camera view.
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Xbox is the BEST - 438 days 21 hours ago
1.17 - @ Jamie Foxx
yes they should used the Killzone 2 engine in the next Bioshock. Maybe it will quiet the fanboys that said 3fixme can't push KZ graphics. If they get that engine I can bet money that the 3fixme will be able to push the KZ engine better that the PS#3.
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Armyless - 438 days 20 hours ago
1.18 - CSol
You must read Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
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play_b3yond - 438 days 18 hours ago
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QUANTITY > QUALITY, remember. As you xbox fanboys always say.
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Genesis5 - 438 days 17 hours ago
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What part about PC code not working well on cell arciticure do you people not understand. This is why more developers are starting to lead with the PS3 so they don't have to listen to this crap.
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IaMs12 - 438 days 16 hours ago
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I was very surprised when i saw that this game was useing the Unreal Engine, it looks amazing.. why cant other games using the unreal engine look as good as this one..
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sinncross - 439 days 5 hours ago
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Wow, seen some of the screens and so forth and it snot just that.. the ps3 version also doesn't look quite as sharp.

Whats up with that... I expected 2k to handle this job well, not muck it up.
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RoidRage - 439 days 4 hours ago
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It's not about mucking it up, the ps3 is just overhyped. 2K is far from the first developer to get mediocre results from the ps3. They are just the latest.
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Grooski - 439 days 4 hours ago
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Roid if you're gonna troll, troll properly - that was pathetic
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Franklinstein - 439 days 4 hours ago
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From what I've read so far Grooski, Roid Rages comment is probably one of truest things said so far. It must have just hurt your feelings.
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LeonSKennedy4Life - 439 days 4 hours ago
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"get mediocre results from the PS3"

Try telling that to Naughty Dog, Kojima Productions, Guerilla, Polyphony Digital, Sony Studios Liverpool, Media Molecule, and Quantic Dream...

Uncharted
Metal Gear Solid 4
Killzone 2
Gran Turismo: Prologue
Wipeout HD
Little Big Planet
Heavy Rain

I dare you to combat Killzone 2 or Heavy Rain with any game released or releasing on the 360.
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Grooski - 439 days 2 hours ago
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@2.3

So an Xbox fanboy praising another xbox fanboy's anti-ps3 post... Who would have thunk it?
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y0haN - 438 days 21 hours ago
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Guys, it's the Unreal Engine 3. It sucks on the PS3. It was designed for DirectX, and all games ported with it suffer from poor framerates and awful texture problems. That isn't opinion, it's fact. Wait for better games which have real effort put into the PS3 architecture-wise and play BioShock on the PC/360 (preferably PC).
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DaTruth - 438 days 20 hours ago
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I'm glad this is not what the 360 version looks like because when I played the demo it looked like crap and very claustrophobic. I would wonder what 360 owners were hyping if this is what the game looks like.
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likedamaster - 438 days 18 hours ago
2.8 - What's up with 2k?
I thought 2k handed this project off to another Dev.? Why are they responding to the people, shouldn't it be the actual Devs?
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Blip Blip - 438 days 17 hours ago
2.9 - LeonKennedy
The 360 games or the 360 versions of the games below look as good as any of the games you listed.
http://www.gametrailers.com...
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Here are the games you listed-
http://www.gametrailers.com...
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http://www.gametrailers.com...
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http://www.gametrailers.com...

Those PS3 games don't look bad. But they DEFINATELY do not look any better than the 360 games I listed. PS3 fanboys need to get over it, and stop lieing.
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TeeJay - 438 days 17 hours ago
2.10 - @Blip
Thank you! Pay attention peeps, there it is for you to see. I'm a duel console owner, and this rumor about the PS3 doing better graphics is fanboy deception. I see games on both consoles everyday, and I don't see one topping the other in the visuals department.
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Xiphos - 439 days 5 hours ago
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Why does it say I've been IP banned from that site? I've never even been to 2k's website before. Can someone please post the response for me?

As for the textures, most of the metals look good in typical UE3 fashion, but then other things like the I-beams and stone columns have really horrible textures. Like... launch PS2 status. Don't know whether to chock that up to being a demo or not. I still really enjoyed it either way, played through the demo several times. I'm probably gonna buy this, but it's not at the top of my list for the fall. Might actually end up getting it for PC if I buy the new computer I've been eyeballing.
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swinesucker - 439 days 4 hours ago
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It's a dynamic IP (DHCP) you are using, and many people overlap and use the same IP

one of the reasons it is very hard to track people on torrents is because of this

it is a safety measure for you and you just got a banned IP from someone else not behaving on the forums

go to your network unplug your router reset make sure your IP is different
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Xiphos - 439 days 4 hours ago
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Thanks for that. I'll mess around with it later.
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LONEWOLF231 - 439 days 4 hours ago
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"The texture in the PS3 demo of the downed Big Daddy does not match our level of quality either. This slipped by. We admit it. However, I want to assure you that this is an exception, and not a rule, and while I regret this oversight, we put a lot of love into making this game look amazing for the PS3 and I'm sure that when you play the rest of the demo you will agree that the textures are not all like this one instance."

As i have stated before the downed big daddy isnt the only one affected! The Big Daddy that shows up right after your first plasmid injection is also plagued by pixelaization and there is word that the Kitchen has nothing but bad textures!
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xhi4 - 439 days 4 hours ago
4.1 - Yeah even OPM said....
that if your a graphics whore, the PS3 version isn't for you.

but if it's just gameplay and a good story then it's fine.

But personally, a souped up heavy PC would be the best option for me with Bioshock!
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Eddie20101 - 439 days 4 hours ago
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Your full of bolony.

Like I said in another post they would only use one set of textures to represent the Big Daddy character thats why all the Big Daddy's look the same. The Kitchen textures are exactly the same in both versions, the carpet textures are exactly the same, the stair textures are exactly the same there all exactly the same on both systems except for the Big Daddy textures, and those were obviously a mistake.
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likedamaster - 438 days 17 hours ago
4.3 - Huh?
To be honest, I didn't see any MAJOR defining difference between the PC's and the 360's. Looked exactly the same except I have my PC resolutions @ 1920 x 1200 (opposed to the 360's 1080).
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Fruit Loops - 439 days 4 hours ago
5 - Well they they're sorry
and i hope its just the demo in this case
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Firstkn1ghT - 439 days 4 hours ago
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The 360 version is just better. Get over it. Seriously stop with the excuses. This is a masterpiece of a game. Do yourself a favor and buy it day 1. It will be one of the best games on the ps3.
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Jamie Foxx - 439 days 4 hours ago
6.1 - ^^^THERES PLENTY MORE GAMES THAN BIOSHOCK
R2,FALLOUT,M2,PES all come to mind and probably game of the year LBP

u3 engine is notorious for not being perfectly compatible with the cell,then you look at games like uncharted,killzone and it makes you thankful sony have many 1st party studios *ahem*
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ICUP - 439 days 4 hours ago
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MGS4 said hi.
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Whoooop - 439 days 4 hours ago
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Funny thing is, Bioshock is the best game the 360 has.... lol
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Fruit Loops - 439 days 4 hours ago
6.4 - Whoop
When you think about it, it really is the 360's only "AAA" game
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LeonSKennedy4Life - 439 days 4 hours ago
6.5 - guys
Firstkn1ghT says something intelligent for once and you diss him. Real mature, guys.

I'll even go as far as to give him bubbles just for your ignorance. This game is amazing and would be one of the best games for ANY system it released on.

It's got the same score as Half-life 2 on Metacritic. That's impressive.
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indysurfn - 438 days 22 hours ago
6.6 - jealous
Wow all the jealous people where saying see its coming to ps3! Hurray. Now that it does like multiplatform games do on ps3(have inferrior graphics and frame rates and AI) they are saying it's not that great except on 360! Why was it game of the year for ALL systems? Why did it barely just make 1 million sold on 360 if it is the best game there? Why are there many games with many times more sales than bioshock on 360? Just get the game and don't sacrifice yourself this time. Did you not get madden? NBA? hockey? assasins creed? Call of duty 4, GTA IV? blah blah blah? Well they had the same issues so if you are missing out your just hurting the sales of the ps3 not of 360. In fact your hurting chances of more games going ps3 if they have to develop for a extra year and then dont get enough sales. This game barely sold 1 million on 360 it sold about the same amount on pc so it is critical that ps3 fans buy this. Or we will have another standard. It has to sell more than a million on 360 to be profitable to translate to ps3 (according to Konamis numbers).
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Twizlex - 438 days 19 hours ago
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^^^^^^^
Actually, it sold 2 million on 360 and a million on PC. Just thought you should know so you don't keep making a stupid argument.
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Some_One_Plays - 439 days 4 hours ago
7 - The one benifit multiplatform comparisions have...
They put the developer right where they stand because their goal is to make every version the same. As for users it does nothing for us unless there is a significant difference. Examples major bug problems, major frame rate problems, or broken controls.
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