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GTA IV Sales Not as Obscenely/Repulsively Huge as Expected, Barely 10 Million Sold

Companies, no matter how big or small, really like making money. This is no secret and, you know, God bless. Sometimes, though, their whining about not making enough of the stuff can be downright infuriating. A good example is Take-Two Interactive, makers of the overrated popular Grand Theft Auto video games. According to a recent report, sales of GTA IV are slowing considerably and not meeting the company's expectations.
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Published: 463 days 17 hours ago | News | PlayStation 3 | Xbox 360 | Industry News
 
 

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BigBaehr - 463 days 17 hours ago
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That's because it sucked.
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Skaterboy Tell Em - 463 days 17 hours ago
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agreed,gta sucked hairy donkey kong balls.
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TheHater - 463 days 17 hours ago
1.2 - agree
It did sucked if you compare to the other GTA games that came before it. GTA IV was a shell of GTA 3, and SA. You can't even compare GTA IV to those two GTA games.
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ChrisGTR1 - 463 days 15 hours ago
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gta sucked? how many other games can you claim to have played over 40 hours for the single player? this gta was a downgrade from san andreas but is still an amazing game.
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SCThor - 463 days 15 hours ago
1.4 - Hey look!!
50 million bucks going down the toilet!

*fluuuuuuuushhhh*
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ChrisGTR1 - 463 days 15 hours ago
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ohhhh... now i get it, you guys are all saying gta4 suckd cause your ps3 owners... >_<
well im defenetly gonna get the expansion pack coming out in 2 months.
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SilentShank - 463 days 15 hours ago
1.6 - pfff
I remember my first comment about GTAIV sucking hairy donkey balls way back during the first week it released. Ah good times... the funny part about it, I got so many disagrees. hahaha

I loved GTA1 and the London expansion, GTA2 was perfection, GTA3 changed gaming, Vice City perfected it, San Andreas took it to the next level, the PSP version were always played during my flights. GTAIV however is the unholy godsend from the desolate one who will remain nameless. GTAIV is a slap in the face to hardcore GTA fans, the gameplay sucked, the driving sucked, the radio sucked, the story sucked, the multiplayer sucked, the humor sucked, the AI sucked, and worst off all... it had those little quarks that should have never made it into the game... the cell phone, the computer, the alternate endings. UGH man just talking about this gam... uh... gh..

I just puked in my mouth a lil bit. :/
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Omegasyde - 463 days 14 hours ago
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Chris,

GTA4 really sucked. O and just because you can get 40 hours out of a game doesn't make it a great game all of a sudden.

I still to this day can't finish FFXII well dare I say it:
It was the worst Final Fantasy.

O and Chris here you go:
Reason why GTa4 sucked:
1)multi-player offered alot, however got boring fast.
2)The ending sucked
3)barely any sidejobs
4)Lack of rewards for sidejobs ( 200 pigeon for a helicopter?)
5)Radio selection was worse
6) Can't buy property
7)The missions were all the same:
Run to point A. Kill drug dealer. Run back to Point B.
The only mission that was really different was the mission that you were hanging on top of the Asian Mafia's delivery truck for dear life.

8)Nico Belic couldn't compare to Tommy Verseti or CJ
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Steven Colbert - 463 days 13 hours ago
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@Chris

Is that so? I have the 360 version and even with the achievements I still thought it was boring.By far the worst GTA game I ever played.It was good though.The game was polished,controls were good,online was interesting but it gets boring quick.

The DLC better be jetpacks or flamethrowers or something like that because the game is gathering dust.
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DaTruth - 463 days 9 hours ago
1.9 - @chrisGtr1
Well, we have better games on PS3. If I only had the 360 I would think this game was great too. It's practically the only game on 360 that qualifies as next gen.
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dro - 463 days 8 hours ago
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it did not only sucked, it almost made me break my t.v!! i almost threw the pad to the t.v in anger of how overhyped and downgraded it is. i hope r* hears all the feed backs by the people who bought the game and not the reviews that gave it 10/10.. i personaly will give this game 7.5/10.
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gaffyh - 463 days 8 hours ago
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chris - GTA4 just sucks and I have it for 360. It was a complete let down
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AAACE5 - 463 days 6 hours ago
1.12 - I don't get it....
What was so wrong with GTA 4 that it sucked?

Was it the fact that it wasn't arcadey and goofy as the previous games? GTA 4 just decided to take a more realistic approach now that we got alot more goofy sandbox games out like Saints row and Crackdown!

I liked GTA 4, and I hope the next one is as good as this one. I admit I had to go through an adjustment period, and at one point said it sucked. But once I got used to it, and realized why it was made that way... I was hooked and it became one of the best games I ever played!

Things have to evolve... Otherwise we would have never got Zelda:OoT or MGS 4! You may not understand it, but don't hate it!
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thebudgetgamer - 463 days 1 hour ago
1.13 - its the godfather three syndrome
on its own it wouldve been good but it had to follow the godfather two wich is one of the best movies ever made so it pales in comparison but only because of the greatness that is tgf2

if a company not named rockstar north made it people would have a different story but its not and it had to follow san andreas so only in that right did it fail
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El_Colombiano - 463 days 16 hours ago
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Only 10 Million? Damn...FLOP...

/sarcasm
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ChrisGTR1 - 463 days 15 hours ago
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it would of sold alot more if there werent cheap ass piraters like you.
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SCThor - 463 days 9 hours ago
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San Andreas had jetpacks,body building feature,lots of stats and customization for your character,etc but GTA4 don't!!, how is so?? Blame M$ for their cheap ass DVD9 and 50 million bucks.
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LethalToxins - 463 days 16 hours ago
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Ironic when a game outsells every single Halo made and is a flop...

Halo a flop? No. So neither is GTA. I don't really care for the GTA games anymore. How many times can you rehash the exact same formula and expect to keep hitting that fifteen million mark?

"Yo, man, 'dis ***** is fuqing mah ho! Kill 'dis b!tch n I pay you 'dis many dollaz!" Missions like that get old after a while... Try a reinvention of the series. Not saying Crackdown was better, but at least it tried something new.
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DaTruth - 463 days 9 hours ago
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GTAFuture, wouldn't change the core gameplay but it would throw in enough change that it could be refreshing. flying cars, jetpacks and hoverboards. Would add verticallity to the game it never had before.
And it should be a PS3 exclusive, if your gonna do it, do it right.
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DrWan - 463 days 16 hours ago
4 - GTA is still selling a healthy number on the PS3 though
If you check the top 10 charts.

it will sell more but it was pretty overrated and it scares them bc got all perfect 10's and still didn't sell more than 10 mil?

They were used to the high numnbers on PS2, beign multi plat and not selling more scare them though
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VF34EJ25 - 463 days 16 hours ago
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Never thought I'd see the day that people think selling 10 million is a flop.

For the record, San Andreas sold 13 million on PS2 and 2-3 million on Xbox. But that's over LIFETIME sales figures.

I'd expect GTA IV to end up at around 12 million on both consoles. And one thing to keep in mind, that it's $60 each for GTA IV opposed to $50 for the PS2/Xbox.

So either way Sam and Dan are rolling in money.
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PikkonX - 463 days 15 hours ago
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Not to mention that PS2 had a larger userbase than all of the current gen consoles combined. I think R* was simply trying to get the game's engine up and running and then create a good title. Now that that's been accomplished, each further installment in the series this generation can add more and more features until you get something beyond what San Andreas did. Things would be even better if they would concentrate on one console.
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Chuck Norris - 463 days 14 hours ago
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"each further installment in the series this generation can add more and more features until you get something beyond what San Andreas did"

You are forgetting one thing: DVD9.
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PikkonX - 463 days 13 hours ago
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That's why I mentioned, "things would be even better if they would concentrate on one console." GTA IV still didn't use the entire 8.5GB DVD, but it does come close. Though it doesn't have HD assets, look at all that San Andreas had, and that game was only 2GB. I think time was the reason GTA IV didn't have as many features, not storage space.
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DaTruth - 463 days 9 hours ago
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Games cost the same amount it's just that the dollars in the crapper. I paid as much for my Ps2 as my PS3 because the Canadian dollar was up.

And the 360 can only use 6.75 gigs of the disk, That's why they didn't use the whole 8.5Gigs.
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ape007 - 463 days 16 hours ago
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rockstar north

BRING BACK BODY HARVEST

body harvest has tons and tons of potential

cars,bikes,trucks,airplanes,h elicopters,ufo's,time travel,fear,mysterys,myths,dea th,aliens,boss fights,zombies,different cites different times,mountains,fictional weapons(I can't forget the the sun shield in greec level)

I REALLY CAN'T THINK OF ANY GAME WITH THIS SO MUCH POTENTIAL

BODY HARVEST 2 ON 50 GB BLU-RAY=BEST THING HAPPEND TO GAMING SINCE SUPER MARIO BROS
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LinuxGuru - 463 days 16 hours ago
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Wow only 10 million
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xionpunk - 463 days 15 hours ago
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im sure they are crying real tears as they wipe their asses with all the spare cash.

on another note, GTA 4 was the first one that I never felt compelled to finish (and I mean just the main story) even the online stuff was pretty boring.
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BabyStomper5000 - 463 days 13 hours ago
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Me too. I played it for two or three weeks then traded it in towards... something. I think GT5P maybe. Anyhoo I played all 5 of the previous games from start to finish and still play SA to this day. It's really disappointing when the new doesn't even compare to the old.
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TheDesperado - 463 days 15 hours ago
10 - PS3 GTA will outsell 360 GTA by the time this is done
PS3 GTA4 still sells briskly on the charts in Europe.

And no, it didn't suck, nor are these somehow bad sales.
Wii ___ games suck balls, and they sell tons. They cost nothing to make so I can't believe Nintendo has the audacity to sell them to you for a tiny bit less than regular HD game RRP or bundled with a peripheral to boost NPD chart status. They should be paying you $450 and kissing your @ss for even buying a Wii and one of these games.
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TruthbeTold - 463 days 15 hours ago
11 - Annoying.
This is just like Nintendo complaining about 6-7 million Super Mario Galaxy copies being sold as "Less than expected". SMG couldn't have cost more than 10 million to make, and that figure is probably far more than it actually cost. Figure in that they've made more than a quarter of a billion off of it, that the game has helped sell even more profitable consoles, and these kind of statements are just downright offensive. Even if somehow Nintendo only gets 100 million of that as profit, they've made a killing.

Same goes for GTA4. After the first 2-3 million copies sold or so, they were making pure profit even when you figure in advertising. The game has made somewhere around a half billion dollars, and truthfully speaking if people knew then what they know now, probably a third of the people who bought it would have passed on buying it and just rented it. Take Two should be ecstatic. And let's not forget that these games are still selling to a great extent.
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joydestroy - 463 days 15 hours ago
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yup! bubbles to you!
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chrisnick - 463 days 15 hours ago
12 - whether it sucked or not
how many games do u know that sold almost 10 mil in 4 months?
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LethalToxins - 463 days 15 hours ago
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Only franchise that competes with GTA's average sales (only talking since GTA3 and beyond...) is Gran Turismo.
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BabyStomper5000 - 463 days 13 hours ago
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There is another ridiculously over rated game... I can't seem to remember what it's called though. Something about Mountain Dew Gamer Fuel that tastes like gummy bears... oh well, it must not have been that good.
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peowpeow - 463 days 15 hours ago
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CJ from SA was one of my favorite characters, i'm not sure why but i finished that game so many times. Niko just didn't cut it for me, and they focused too much on realism. Saints Row 2 will probably be good
But yeah 10 million..$$$..
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SilentShank - 463 days 15 hours ago
13.1 - Exactly
After playing GTAIV, hardcore GTA fans can't help but look into other GTA-esque games like Saints Row 2 and APB, hoping those IP's will offer something remotely "fun"... something Rockstar simply forget about when creating GTAIV.
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Omegasyde - 463 days 14 hours ago
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Well said the both of you. I am thinking sooner or later GTA is going to go with having the lead character be female.

They should of had GTA4 with a better lead character. I think the immigrant view is cool, but it lacked story since you just hear about Nico getting screwed over in Eastern Europe for some unknown reason until about 90% through the game.
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badz149 - 463 days 14 hours ago
14 - GTAIV is in no way
the worst GTA ever but neither the best! but what makes it such a dissapointment is because it was higly rated but it's actually several steps backward from SA and the serious lacking of 'FUN' in the game really killed it for many GTA fans including me! the message is clear for R*. not everything should go towards realism! the crazy physics and crazy things we can do in the previous GTAs were the things that made them so good and realism killed them all in GTAIV!
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mirroredderorrim - 463 days 14 hours ago
15 - @ChrisGTR1
I have played Xenogears, import in 1998 for 246 hours, home slice.

Final fantasy VII, oh my, don't get me started. Maybe at least 1700 hours total time ever played, by a rough estimate?
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VF34EJ25 - 463 days 14 hours ago
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1700 hours...?

I... don't know what to say...
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BabyStomper5000 - 463 days 13 hours ago
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You're supposed to say "holy fuktard batman! 1700 hours?!".

If you wanna talk hours though I had over 1500 recorded hours on an online MUD when I was in middle school. Granted it's not the same it was still a gigantic waste of time.
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TruthbeTold - 463 days 12 hours ago
15.3 - BabyStomper
Was it Valhalla?
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Nervz - 463 days 14 hours ago
16 - GTAIV sucked?
f'en love it...the story/characters are much more loving and interesting. gameplay is addictive, IMO.
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clintos59 - 463 days 13 hours ago
17 - This is the risk u take of going multiplatform and doing your fanbase wrong...
I really think if GTA4 was timed exclusive for the ps3, it would have sold alot more then it has now. But dp to wanting more money and being greedy and wanting to go multiplatform and forgetting which system fanbase bought all those copies, it backfired on them.

Take notes from Kojima and be loyal to your fanbase and your game will sell very well. :)
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BabyStomper5000 - 463 days 13 hours ago
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If it's a good game it will usually sell very well no matter what platform it's on. Look at Call of Duty 4.
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Firstkn1ghT - 463 days 10 hours ago
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Take notes from Kojima? Yeah MGS4 sold around 3 million. That's much better than 10 million sold. :/
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skunkworx - 463 days 11 hours ago
18 - Multiplatform was wise on R* part.
Having played the game and thought pretty much what everyone on here is saying (was good but just not upto previous versions) i can see why R* delayed the game so the releases were at the same time, who would of rushed out and brought it if they had seen/played the 'other' version first on a friends console, far fewer than ran out and got it the first week i am certain of that.
Maybe R* realized this and held back what ever version was ready first until the other was ready. You wait and see the piss poor sales on the PC when it comes out, all those torrent sites are going to be overloaded in the first week of that versions release.

If R* want me to buy another GTA then they really need to look at GTA3,VC and SA and say 'What made these games great' i can tell them the answer just like many others on this site and that is FUN.
Forget the bullshit realism and put FUN back in it, when i wheelie a bike i want to see how far it was 'ON THE SCREEN', when the cops chase me i want to be worried i am going to get caught, not find the first straight road and leave them for dead, when i want deliver a pizza, go put out fire's with a fire engine or save some injured people in a ambulance i want to be able to do that. I WANT to drive across the city's because it's fun to drive not grab the nearest taxi and get a lift as the driving is so AWFUL i don't want to do it. I want to leap of the side of a mountain on a motorbike and the parachute down, i want to do all these things because it's FUN.

R*, wake up and do this for GTA5 or games like Crackdown 2,Saints Row 2 and many others are going to make 10 million sales look incredible and out of reach.

Phew Rant over. :D
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TruthbeTold - 463 days 11 hours ago
18.1 - Not to mention that
there was a race between PS3 owners and 360 owners to see who'd have bragging rights over which console sold the most. The simultaneous release shows an understanding of the market. I give them props, even though I don't personally feel that the game should have scored so high across the board.
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