Burnout Paradise to Become Downloadable through PlayStation Network

Tomdc - 501 days 5 hours ago

yh ill probably buy this now, especially if its going so cheap. very smart idea I think, to get more buyers =P great news!

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NO_PUDding - 501 days 5 hours ago

Same TomDC

That's awesome. Smaller overhead and persuade Criterion and EA in general to support PSN.

And apparently it's awesome.

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Hellangelzx - 501 days 4 hours ago

What I want to know is, what's the difference between the disk version and the downloadable version.

Will there be graphics differences? Will the DL one be less graphical?

I want to know all of these things, I'm on the border of buying this game with my remaining money.

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Hellangelzx - 501 days 1 hour ago

I asked a question!

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the4time2doctor0 - 500 days 23 hours ago

it was a dumb question.

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scottie2521 - 500 days 20 hours ago

it would be really great if this was playable through remote play

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shakka - 501 days 6 hours ago

i think that`s because of the file size limit on xbox live marketplace.

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LossTheEarthbreaker - 501 days 6 hours ago

That's for XBLA. Xbox Live Arcade. That's not true for the entirety of Xbox Live. For example, many movies and even TV shows are larger than 350 MB. Furthermore, there are around 20 or more Xbox 1 titles that are available to download onto your 360, all of which contain more than 350 MB. They are still available.

This is not to say that I expect them to release Paradise as an Xbox Original, as it is clearly not an original Xbox game. My point is that it's entirely possible and that no one has said it isn't going to happen.

They removed that extremely low limit early on in XBLA's life and since the inception of Xbox Originals (original Xbox games available for full download), many very large games are available to download through Xbox Live.

I wouldn't be surprised if we do see Paradise downloadable on both XBLA and PSN.

The original xbox live ARCADE (read: Arcade games, games released on XBLA) was actually capped at 50 MB. They upped it to 150 and again to 350 MB. This only applies to ARCADE GAMES and nothing else. Original Xbox games that you can download on Live are all far larger than 350 MB. They are definitely available. It's astounding that so many people are disagreeing with this.

But then they also added Xbox Originals, which are full Xbox games you download onto the HDD. I guarantee the size of the file (in this case, Burnout Paradise) is not the problem with it coming to Xbox Live, if that's even a problem.

No one has said it isn't going to be downloadable on Live.

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Marceles - 501 days 6 hours ago

350MB is the cap for XBLA...it was 150MB, and I'm pretty sure the game is much bigger than that

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LossTheEarthbreaker - 501 days 6 hours ago

That's for XBox Live ARCADE. ARCADE GAMES. NOT XBOX ORIGINALS.

XBOX Originals are ALL far larger than 350 MB.

You damn PS3 fanboys need to stop disagreeing just because you don't like to hear that you might not be the only ones who will have this.

Christ.

And the limit was actually 50 MB, not 150 MB, when Arcade first launched.

Stop filling this post with blatant lies.

@below: I know that Xbox originals apply to Xbox games. Do you really think I meant to say Paradise is an Xbox 1 game?

No.

My point was that the 350 MB limit you ignoramuses keep spouting is a limit on XBLA (Xbox Live Arcade) games ONLY. There are plenty of files, including Xbox Live Originals (my point for why this is completely possible) that are entirely larger than 350 MB.

Stop acting like it won't happen because of something completely unrelated. You can download Burnout 3 on Xbox Live. It's not available in the Arcade. It's an Xbox Original. It's bigger than 350 MB.

See my point?

And you are right that it was moved to 150 before being upped to 350. My point was that it was even lower beforehand and that had no effect on and has no effect on anything other than Arcade games. Not xbox originals and especially not 360 games.

My point isn't that it will be released as an Xbox Original.

My point is that the limit that was posted about is related to ARCADE games. The example for games that are larger than that limit is Xbox Originals.

This is not to say that Burnout Paradise would release in Xbox Originals.

Please try to read this again.

@marceles and barom who said "In other words X360 has no place for full fledged X360 games."

And so therefore it isn't possible for them to add it in? Did the PlayStation Network have some kind of method setup for downloading PS3 games prior to this?

No. Please shut up. Fanboy.

Furthermore, it's even more likely for this to happen on Live than on PSN before this was announced since Xbox Live actually has a method for downloading large titles (Originals). You cannot download PlayStation 2 games on PlayStation Network. Yet. Clearly, it is possible for them to set this up, just as it would be for Xbox Live to setup something for 360 games.

Stop making vast and ignorant generalizations and assumptions that you clearly are not knowledgeable about to keep any kind of side of your argument valid.

@beoulve who said "full games on PSN..hmmmm tell me why XBOX Live is better again? "

Well, Xbox already has full Xbox games up for download. Maybe you meant PS3 titles, but neither PS3 nor 360 have that option, yet.

Also, in regards to the producer claiming this as "another" PlayStation exclusive for burnout paradise, what is already exclusive to PlayStation, other than the Eye? Even in the case of the eye, we have xbox live vision, so mugshots are not exclusive to either system, either.

Please do tell.

@Vicophine who said "LossTheEarthbreaker = Troll, no where in the article does it say it's coming to XBL via download. GTFO"

And you're not trolling by simply coming in here and stating that I'm trolling? I'm not trolling for 360, either. I was trying to remind people that the game is just as good on 360 as PS3, and everyone should have it. Why is that so bad? I was responding to people commenting about Xbox Live and this game prior. Please get your crap straight and try to actually contribute.

Nowhere in the article does it say it ISN'T coming to XBL via download. You GTFO.

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Marceles - 501 days 5 hours ago

Xbox Originals apply to "original" Xbox games, and the cap was formerly 150MB until it was moved to 350 in May...I know it was originally 50 when it first came out.

Edit: Burnout 3 was also on Xbox 1...but fine fine, if it'll make you feel better, they'll release it as an Xbox Original because it's too big for the XBLA cap...they can only release it as any of the 2, so either it's a full xbox 1 game, or it's a 350MB XBLA game, they're not gonna make a separate category specially for Burnout Paradise...not to say it wont happen in the future, but I'm sure they'll have a bigger game than Burnout Paradise to debut the first full 360 game available for download...now calm down sheesh

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macalatus - 501 days 5 hours ago

@loss the earthbreaker,

Dude, chill down! What they said wasn't anything too negative except what they thought it really was.

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ukilnme - 501 days 5 hours ago

@ LossTheEarthbreaker

Skadoosh is right. It's a lost cause. Trust me, I know.

Edit: I love the disagrees. Click ignore while you are at it, I love those too.

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barom - 501 days 5 hours ago

First off this wouldn't apply for Xbox Arcade (cause it ain't an arcade game) OR Xbox Originals (it's not an Xbox game, it's X360 game). In other words X360 has no place for full fledged X360 games.

Second, if you read the playstation blog which is written by the producer of the game he states "Today we’re proud to announce another PLAYSTATION EXCLUSIVE for Burnout Paradise."

Maybe you should take a second look before calling everyone fanboys no?

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Fat Princess - 501 days 5 hours ago

@ Skadoosh: It's you're*

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beoulve - 501 days 5 hours ago

full games on PSN..hmmmm tell me why XBOX Live is better again?

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ZeroBlitz - 501 days 5 hours ago

Your point makes no sense. Sure they have Xbox originals above 350MB; and sure they've raised the cap on XBLA games a few times. That doesn't suggest that they'll immediately raise the cap up to several Gig. And they obviously won't add a separate category just for Burnout Paradise - a game that's already sold on disc.

Of course, if some high up guy in Microsoft gets annoyed that it's only online on PSN then they'll add it just to make the point that they aren't behind.

"Give it up man. Your dealing with people with no smarts here."

Horrible wording + bad spelling = smart person?

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PirateThom - 501 days 5 hours ago

Defensive much?

Face it, Microsoft are talking about downloads. Sony are doing it and still offering the discs as options, third parties are just the next step.

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LuvBurger - 501 days 4 hours ago

This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with XBL.

NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!

Why can't a bit of good news NOT turn into a useless flame war?!?!?!?!

You fanboy's from both sides make me want to &%^#$*! puke sometimes.

For those that disagree, you can come by and hold the bucket.

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clintos59 - 501 days 4 hours ago

Nailed it. And that is the reason PSN is pure bad a$$. I dont give a crap what people say about file sizes, but to deliver games like this and warhawk and Siren and Socom. Its something u will never get on live. I am amped.

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AKIronMaiden - 501 days 3 hours ago

I'm pretty sure, the "XBL Arcade" title applies to all 360 games that are downloadable. Therefore if this game was to be downloaded on the 360 it would be an XBLA game, meaning that there is a cap limit on the size of the game. Just my thoughts though. I'm sure that if it was gonna be on XBL they would've announced that as well as becoming available on the PSN.

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rexor0717 - 501 days 2 hours ago

Its right on the PS blog.

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drdre74 - 501 days 2 hours ago

there is no way the game would fit on LIVE. M$ has a size limit and sony doesn't. i see more and more games doing it this way on psn. I'm sure LIve will try and answer back once they see sony doing well.

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barom - 501 days 2 hours ago

"Nowhere in the article does it say it ISN'T coming to XBL via download. You GTFO."

Since you're obviously not intelligent enough to find the info by yourself (even though I've mentioned it in my reply). http://blog.us.playstation....

The quote
"Today we’re proud to announce another PlayStation exclusive for Burnout Paradise. This fall, we’ll be making the entire game available for download via the US PLAYSTATION Store."

Also regarding your statement "You cannot download PlayStation 2 games on PlayStation Network. Yet. Clearly, it is possible for them to set this up, just as it would be for Xbox Live to setup something for 360 games. "

Are you totally clueless about the PSN? Need I mention that PSN ALREADY has full fledged PLAYSTATION 3 titles (indeed they skipped PS2)? Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection, Warhawk, GT5P and now Burnout Paradise.

It's quite obvious whos the fanboy here really. You are arguing for something that hasn't been announced (making it seem like it will) and from the producer's statement seems likely that it's not gonna either. I'm not saying it's not possible for XBLA to have this. I'm saying CURRENTLY XBLA has not made room for that possibility.

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Fat Princess - 501 days 6 hours ago

Why not?

I highly recommend Burnout Paradise to anyone that's into arcade racers. Can't wait for the bikes and night settings. They're bringing us trophies too. ^__^ I love Criterion.

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Xiphos - 500 days 23 hours ago

Not sure if it's set to become a GH right now, but it's already $30. Picked it up last week myself, fun game.

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mfwahwah - 501 days 2 hours ago

? It's been $30 at Best Buy and Gamestop. Probably in more places as well.

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Ben1054 - 501 days 6 hours ago

because its on PSN or that its $10 dollars cheaper?
why not buy it not instead of waiting a few months by the time you download it we'll have resistance 2 and motorstorm 2

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trancefreak - 501 days 6 hours ago

i bought this game last january and its has an extreme rush too it. Cool game but i prefer the disc too.

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LossTheEarthbreaker - 501 days 6 hours ago

You prefer the "disc too?"

Could you inform us as to what that would be in comparison to the "extreme rush too it?"

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Vicophine - 501 days 5 hours ago

LossTheEarthBreaker = Troll

Ignore.

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LossTheEarthbreaker - 501 days 6 hours ago

Every PS3 and 360 owner*

fixed.

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The_Firestarter - 501 days 5 hours ago

Seriously, chill! This is in the PS3 section, why come in?

It's unnecessary for you to try and "correct" Majors. We ALL know this game is on the 360, but since we're in the PS3 section he's referring to PS3 gamers.

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Vicophine - 501 days 5 hours ago

LossTheEarthbreaker = Troll, no where in the article does it say it's coming to XBL via download. GTFO

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AlterEgo - 501 days 6 hours ago

The reasoning behind it I believe is to slowly cut out retailers and make a direct profit.

Death to GameStop...coming soon, courtesy of PlayStation 3.

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Ju - 501 days 5 hours ago

Might be also a way to squeeze out a bit more for a title which is available since a while now. Putting a "Best Of" version on the shelfs for $29.90 does not reduce the production costs, but lowers the margin. Maybe they try to cut the loss by simply reducing the production cost thru the download offer. I personally prefer a disk, though. Some time (yeah some time), I might get another PS3. Having the game on one HD doesn't really help here (don't know how often you can download that with the same account, and even if you can, how do you play it with another one ?).

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trancefreak - 501 days 6 hours ago

if its like steam were i can re download my games at anytime i will do it in the future. For now i need a 320gb hdd for my 40gb ps3.

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LossTheEarthbreaker - 501 days 6 hours ago

It'd be nice if you guys could stop posting blatant lies.

360 owners have been able to download full Xbox games on their 360's already. I don't believe PS3 has been able to download PS2 games, however this is a step in the right direction.

That said, I think it's highly likely we'll see Paradise downloadable on XBLA, too.

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Cajun Chicken - 501 days 6 hours ago

Yeah, I like putting 'WOW' in my comment titles.

But this is unexpected and HUGE. Hope this follows to all regions soon. I own it already, but...WOW.

This is some future for the PSN now.

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juuken - 501 days 6 hours ago

This is incredibly badass. Now they need PSN cards!

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Sir_Ken_Kutaragi - 501 days 5 hours ago

...When is the Inferior xBox 360 Version coming out on 'xBox LIVE' then anyone???
;-D
Oooooops!!!;)

inferior (adjective) of bad quality
14 SYNONYMS
cheap
crappy
cruddy
crummy
debased
flimsy
inferior
lousy
poor
second-rate
shabby
shoddy
slipshod
trashy
= xBox 360!!! ;-D

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Thoas - 501 days 4 hours ago

I need to update my HDD from 160gb to 320gb now. Siren: Blood Curse full game is 9gb, now this good news.

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syanara - 501 days 1 hour ago

is an awesome game and they seem to really like the PS3 this is very cool and if microsoft is saying oh we didnt think Hd-DVD would win we are going direct to download then why is it sony the first ones to have a third party game downloadable?

@2.4 yea I recently upgraded my hard drive and heres something for every ps3 owner UPGRADE OUR HDD because it feels really good having over 300 gb of Space lol same to you 360 fans wait... u cant thats right well anyways yea ps3 owners espically 20gb owners u cant really do alot with 20gigs

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trancefreak - 501 days 6 hours ago

i think they both can coexist the market is there for both depending on access and preference???

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doshey - 501 days 6 hours ago

no ur wrong u stupid ass blu ray is the future and this is to show how crappy live is. why aint this coming to live cuz there is no way it can with its file limit at what 1 gb. this is not to show off dd its to show the power of the psn

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Cajun Chicken - 501 days 6 hours ago

Uses the full disc for a game on any format these days, its one of those things.

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bruiser81 - 501 days 6 hours ago

Um i dont think that we will be downloading MGS4 any time soon, so no it wasnt BS. Downloading games would be a convenient pain cause eventually you run out of space and its not like to can just swap hard drives in and out of the ps3 "WITHOUT REFORMATTING IT FIRST" I dont think sony will do this for their first party games cause they tend to be bigger

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Jackthepwnsaur - 501 days 5 hours ago

this title is not an ambitious title that was built to take the PS3 to its fullest advantage. In other words, this game does not push BD to its limits like HOW MGS4 does. Thats why its going to be downloadable. Now when it comes to games like "Rage" for example, you wont see it become a Downloadable title becuase its taking advantage of the whole BD.

This is a great step in the Right Direction though because it shows the PSN's stengths. hopefully this would become a new way for Developers to DIstribute their retail games on the PSN.

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PoSTedUP - 501 days 5 hours ago

these are quality PSN games without blu-ray, blu-ray is needed for HIGHER QUALITY such as blu-ray movies and games, you cannot get blu-ray quality through digital distribution cause blu-ray isnt a file, blu-ray is a disc read with a blu laser. this is just showing off the power of the PSN : P

blu-ray is needed, blu-ray is the future.

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rhood022 - 501 days 5 hours ago

It's simple:

Multiplat games = can be downloaded from the PSN because, well, they tend to be less than 9 gigs.

Sony First and Second Party titles and third party exclusives = blu-ray is needed because they can be technically more impressive than multiplat titles.

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pwnsause - 501 days 5 hours ago

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL why would i want a pirated version of the Dark Knight if I can get that on BLu-Ray? just give it to the BOts, thats possibly as close to HD as they can get LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOL

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Shadow Man - 501 days 5 hours ago

You are going to download a 10gb game thats gonna take you around 5 days with a 112kb connection? Is bad enough that you have to install games in your hard drive but now your going to download them too. People are gona run out of space.

I thought Sony fanboys said Digital Distribution will never take over.

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pwnsause - 501 days 5 hours ago

i thought i had a cable connection LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL it would of made more sense if you said 20gb LOLOLOLOLOL Keep Spinning BOT. Installs decompress certain parts of the game you dumb BOT LOLOLOLOLOL

SOny Fanboys know that DD is going to happen. but for it to happen you need a connection that can download 20+gbs stuff fast. 10gb is not a problem. in terms of movies. DD cant do what what BD can do. 50gb of uncompressed video and Sound cannot compare to DD until internet speeds increase in the future to allow 50gb movies to allow you to download it fast within hours and not days dumb bot LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Shadow Man - 501 days 4 hours ago

You have a cable connection good for you how about the rest of the world? Games like GT5 are over 25gbs so do you expect some one with DSL to download a 50gb game.

Installs do help loading times but takes alot of space in your hard drive.

Thank You for calling me a dumb BOT T_T.

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Thoas - 501 days 4 hours ago

Lol Burnout Paradise is not even close to 10gb tard. They had to dumb it down to fit on you last gen DVD disc.

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robbo918 - 500 days 23 hours ago

PS3's can easily add a very large hard drive unlike Xbox 360 owners who have to use only the ones approved by Microsoft. The size of the hard drive is something that doesn't matter to PS3 owners.

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LossTheEarthbreaker - 501 days 5 hours ago

You may not have to pay for the service, but you still have to pay for the games.

360-only users don't have to pay for the service to buy games, either, just to play them online.

I, for one, buy the titles I'd like to play online on my PS3.

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pwnsause - 501 days 5 hours ago

350mb download cap on XBLA. Not possible. maybe 4+ years from now when they swap the HDD for a bigger one or when the xbox 720 comes out and allows you to swap for any HDD, say 150+, which PS3 owners are enjoying right now lolololololol

@Shadow man

GT5p is not 25gbs lol, its 2.4gbs LOLZ. how have you been estimating this? via a Abacus? LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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ice_prophecy - 501 days 4 hours ago

Look i've read your comments and such on both zones. You may or may not be right. Either ways, what you feel is yet confirmed.

I honestly think you need to settle down. You are getting fairly angsty hahahah

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LossTheEarthbreaker - 501 days 4 hours ago

Haha.

I know it's not confirmed, but it's a clear possibility, which no one seems to want to accept.

Also, pwnsause, I responded in the original post with an edit but I'll say it again:

You do realize there are plenty of things available for download over 350 MB on Xbox Live that aren't in the Arcade, right?

And that there are already many much larger Xbox 1 games available?

Why is it not possible for XBL to do something that PSN is planning? Why is it not possible for PSN to do all the things that Live has already done and has?

The answer is simply that it IS possible, in both cases. ]

@Vicophine who said "
I didn't know I could download a case too... "

You can't. I'm not sure why you made such an idiotic response to my Siren explanation, which wasn't exactly logical itself.

Point with Siren is that you can't just load up Siren and play through all the episodes.

EDIT: I wasn't aware that you owned the Japanese BD-ROM, if that's what that is. Siren is being released in Europe pretty soon, I think, though.

So, I guess I stand corrected on Siren not being in a box. I still disagree as to whether it's deserving of being a "full" PS3 game, but whatever. Congratulations, PS3 has an actual PS3 game on PSN. Still, why does this negate the possibility of 360 doing similar things?

Also, the more I talk about this the more I'm positive that you'll see Paradise on Live probably at the same exact time as PSN.

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Vicophine - 501 days 4 hours ago

^
"Siren is episodic. If Oblivion released all its content digitally, similar to the downloadable content, as opposed to an actual boxed release, it would be a much larger game, but it would also be entirely downloadable in episodes, meaning you could just download a questline at a time. When you want to play a different questline, you have to start up another episode. It's not all-in-one. You can download all the Siren episodes together at once, but you have to play them seperately. If they release them all in a box you can call it a full PS3 title."

I didn't know I could download a case too...

http://s313.photobucket.com...

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ice_prophecy - 501 days 4 hours ago

I doubt its a question of the live services being capable of doing it.

It is a question of whether Microsoft is willing to bend their policies to null the advancement of PSN.

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pwnsause - 501 days 4 hours ago

there are no games that are available over that 350mb size limit. Microsoft Pushed the cap the other day to make room for Bionic Commando Rearmed and Street fighter 2 HD Remix.

In terms of Original Xbox games, i know they allow it to download. but think about this, does that make sense? you know that is really dumb. they set a double standard there which is stupid.

Edit:

No it doesnt. They imposed a size limit on XBLA games. they should be removing that limit and allow devs to do whatever the hell they want with downloadable games without imposing such a burden at them.

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LossTheEarthbreaker - 501 days 4 hours ago

@pwn - Perhaps not on XBLA, but we're not talking about XBLA anymore. We already know that over 20 xbox live titles are downloadable, all over 350 MB.

Why is it so hard for you to believe that Paradise can be released on Live if PSN is already going to do it?

Yes, it makes perfect sense for them to allow Xbox original games to be downloaded and for them to let Paradise be downloaded.

I'm not sure which you thought didn't make sense, nor do I see how it's dumb or the double standard you seem to.

@ice-prophecy below:

A lot of those things are movies and such, yes, but also there are many Xbox games, all of which are pretty large, many over a GB. I honestly don't see them having to bend much at all to put the game up.

They probably will release other best-selling titles along with Paradise on both PSN and XBL. I think it's inevitable to see 360 titles appearing as downloadable content. The problem you're going to see with XBL is that 360 doesn't have an upgradeable HDD beyond Microsoft's 120 GB or whatever it is.

ALSO: In regards to people mentioning that they say this is PlayStation Exclusive, I'd take that with a grain of salt because the way they word it is not necessarily that of something truly exclusive to PlayStation.

Either way, this affects me in no way. I have both and I already have the f'ing game.

EDIT 2: I think your idea about HDD expansion or add-on of some kind is very good and will most likely be necessary for MS to get past their small HDD sizes.

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ice_prophecy - 501 days 4 hours ago

Those things are movies and tv shows I thought?

I thought those limits applied to games and such?

I really have no idea how the live system works tbh.

I dont doubt that LIVE is more than capable of hosting Burnout Paradise on its network. I just wonder if Microsoft are willing to bend their policies to do it.

As we all know how the responded to other developers that wanted to get features in and couldnt.

edit: Well if microsoft is going to seriously pursue selling full disc based games on the LIVE service seriously, then they should consider selling a HDD Caddy unit, so people can put their own hdd in. Microsoft still gets a sale, users are happy because they aren't bound to size limits.

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zo6_lover27 - 501 days 4 hours ago

I said this in the gamerzone and I'll say it again
It WILL NOT come to Xbox live, not because of size restrictions but have you seen a 360 game for download yet? No, and we are NOT talking about Original Xbox games either, PSN already has 5 full titles available to download, and we would no doubt see a first party title do it before a 3rd party title. It would also be pretty stupid since the majority of 360 owners only have 20GB(13GB) hard drives, and some with NO hard drive at all, and I dont think anyone in there right mind would pay $180 for a measly 120GB, hell I can get 500GB(external) for $140 for my ps3. While the majority of ps3 owners have 60GB or higher.

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Sevir04 - 501 days 3 hours ago

when it comes to online network offerings this game has been clearly stated to be a PSN exclusive by both EA, Criterion, and Sony, that automatically puts this out of the xbox live availabilty in the future as a no go never happening.

thats the publisher, the developer, and the platform holder telling you it's exclusive.

now you say that xbla offers games bigger than 350mb, i'm sure they do because of the xbox originals, but these are HD games we are talking about full fledged retail disc based games for xbox 360, not xbox, so have we seen a game to do what sony has been doing? no.

Tekken:Dark Ressurrection, Warhawk, GT5:prologue, Siren:Blood Curse, Fatal Inettia EX. these are all games that have a disc release as well.

next on the list, is Ratchet: Quest for Booty
Socom:Confrontation, Wipeout HD, and now Burnout:Paradise.

this is showing the strength of the PSN and the versatility of the Network platform as it's unrestrained and unrestricted, as many developers have said from their own mouths, Sony facilitates freedom and creativity, the biggest game availible on the PSN right now is Siren:Blood Curse, coming in at 9.4 gigs with all the episodes and thats under compression because it ships on blu-ray in japan. so if devs are free to launch a game on the scale of a dual layered DVD on PSN, do you think they are going to go with an unrestrictive network or one that a platform holder has all these road blocks, and restrictive policies.

Epic proved it with mods, LBP is proving it with user content, and now another 3rd party game, the second to launch on PSN exclusively BTW is showing yet again that Sony's online network is the way to go.

i still dont see a full fledged 360 title like gears or halo3 or forza 2 availible for download. not even an episodic game like siren which you can even download all together is availible on a "superior" online platform thats been revamped and updated and in market for now 6 years?

I've said this before, in this world there are trend setters, and trend followers. MS ins't the setter.

Come back when the xbox360 and MS has finally launched a game on the scale of 2gbs-9.4gbs in it's life cycle and we'll have this discussion yet again. till then The PS3 fanbase can gloat as Sony puts on the maestro suits and directs the choir that MS assembled. they've put their money where their mouth is, Whats MS doing?

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Shadow Man - 501 days 4 hours ago

I don't know where you live but here in the U.S. Verizon provides you a 700kb speed connection. Now I have a 4mb speed connection but not everybody has a 1mb download speed.

Thank you for calling me a douche T_T.

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DJ - 501 days 4 hours ago

Sony must've attended every MS conference, because they're doing the big thing that Microsoft promised to achieve (but hasn't).

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Sevir04 - 501 days 3 hours ago

fatal inertia ex, ratchet and clank: Quest for Booty, and Wipeout HD

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LossTheEarthbreaker - 501 days 2 hours ago

And, I definitely will be toning it down. I could have done it a lot better. I think I even got negative feedback and lost a bubble.

Which sucks because all I was trying to do was correct the situation and provide some thoughts on why it very well could and probably is coming to 360. Not to say it was going to happen, either, just that it's possible.

It happens all the time, but people blindly spew misinformation that I just like to see stopped as soon as it starts. It's a pet peeve of mine. Either someone misunderstands me or they misunderstand something that I understand and I then feel compelled to inform them.

This isn't to say I don't have my own opinions, either. You guys will be surprised to know a lot of this crap, too, because it seems I've been deemed a 360 troll in a PS3 section.

I don't pay attention to sections, first of all. I pride myself on not being biased towards any one console. I own all 3 and have a pretty kickass PC. I wish I had an HDTV, but I got a monitor last near that I really like, nice little widescreen 22. I like and seek information relating to games. That's why you'll see my comments everywhere. I come off very abrasive in many of my comments and I apologize. Now, moving on.

I go to the "ALL" section and look through every damn thing for anything that interests me. Even with my most recent 2nd RROD (will have my third 360 soon), I still feel like Microsoft's 3 year warranty with full service is real f'ing good compared to the PS3. I didn't have to deal with any bullshit poorly paid customer service madness last time, nor pick up the phone. I pray I don't have the kind of problems I had with my PS2, because Sony's customer service was hell. I don't know if it's improved, but it's something I've dreaded and I don't think I've heard fantastic things.

However, it seems like the hardware is a hell of a lot more dependable. That's probably not the most important thing necessarily, but I'd rather not have to deal with sending in my console in the first place (let alone twice or more and not having it to play in the meantime twice or more).

There are a ton of great XBLA games I love and really very few on PSN in comparison, with most of the really good ones on XBLA, many of which are arguably better games, and some that are on both PSN and XBLA. Sony needs to open up their service a little more to really get some more new fresh content out than they do.

I love not having to pay for online play on PSN. The additions of Trophies was a good move and a mechanic that I think really adds a competitive and very challenging aspect to a lot of games. Achievements. Replay value, basically, which is something I always dig. It needs to be adapted by Nintendo, too.

I really don't play my Wii much, as you can tell by my focuses in this. :p

PS3 is a little lacking when it comes to the online portion, but I really don't notice much difference anymore when I think about whether or not I want to pay for the same thing.

I'm starting to lean more and more towards it, especially because I feel like I'm going to be playing it more when I look at the titles on both systems and on either system. Once some of these big titles are released on PS3, I just feel like there isn't a whole lot exclusive to the 360 anymore.

It helps that I have more confidence in PS3 developers now. Developers have gained a lot of experience in PS3 development finally, so the games exclusive on PS3 are more attractive to me. Multi-platform games with online play I try to go to PSN, because I don't like paying for Live and because these games are usually equal on either system. GTA looks a little better on PS3 to me, mostly because it doesn't have that weird oil-painting effect, but I got it on 360 because of downloadable content because the game is equal to the PS3 version, for example.

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GoldenBoy - 501 days 2 hours ago

This download is a PSN exclusive. It could appear on XBox Live as MS could just waive any restrictions if there were any. It is there prerogative but it won't happen anytime soon because Criterion announced it as an exclusive. Here is the link (read the first sentence):

http://blog.us.playstation....

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