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BioShock Rescued Shooters, Says Levine

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2K's Ken Levine has told Eurogamer he reckons BioShock has rescued the shooter genre by opening up a brand new market.

"I can pretty much guarantee to you that if BioShock wasn't successful, there never would have been another game like this," Levine told Eurogamer in an exclusive interview. "I don't even know how we convinced people to pay for BioShock. These games had never made any money - everybody told us when we were pitching BioShock, sounds like a great idea, you'll sell 150,000 units - next!"
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permutated - 509 days 21 hours ago
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F*ck yeah it did.
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coolfool - 509 days 20 hours ago
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2 - What is he referring to?
The FPS genre? If so then I think that he is completely wrong. Since when were people not buying FPS games? I'd say the genre is probably the one of or if not THE most popular genre in gaming.

Maybe he is referring to the more story focused puzzle/strategy element? If that was the case I still think I might disagree with him.

Someone care to enlighten me what, in reality, Bioshock did to resurrect shooters?
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Excalibur - 509 days 20 hours ago
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3 - Not sure what he is trying to say
But it seems like he is a little full of himself.

Granted BioShock was a great game but it didn't invent/re-invent or resurrect anything.
Shooters were doing fine when BioShock came along and shooters have be doing fine since it's release.

BioShock came along at a time when not many games come out, that is a good part of it's success.

Secondly, it's storyline was different than the normal War/Alien invasion type shooter and that helped with it's success as well.

If that is what Mr. Levine is referring to then I'll agree. BUT...

Ya made a good game, I'll give ya that but don't think you are king of the block now.

I can tell ya this Mr.Levine, if you get too full of yourself and run your mouth a bit too much you may find yourself losing sales.

Enjoy your success and shut your mouth.

Follow it with a few more good games then get back to us with your king of the block attitude.
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morganfell - 509 days 16 hours ago
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I agree completely. It is possible to observe on N4G alone the recent evolution of Ken Levine from game developer on the outside to pigheaded egotistical jerk on the inside.

"CAN YOU NOT SEE HOW I HAVE BECOME A GOD!"

This is the point where developers begin to alienate themselves. He is setting himself on fire and diving into a crowd yet is too full of himself to notice the damage.

I love fat headed egotards when they self destruct like this.

Bioshock didn't rescue anything. And last count it wasn't in the top 5 for the 360 - and the top 5 has 3 FPS titles, one Third person shooter, and a racing game. It isn't in the top 25 on the PC either.

Time for you to go Ken, we have had enough.
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SL1M DADDY - 509 days 20 hours ago
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4 - He takes what publishers told him...
And makes it sound like they were the end-all, be-all know-it-all's of the genre. Heck, did he forget how well System Shock did? Even before this type of FPS was around it did pretty well. Folks were ready for another great FPS and this one delivered. Maybe it's just me but this guy is getting a bit too much press lately and really needs to just shut his trap. What the world needs least is another developer that can't stop bragging about themselves. Yeah, I love his work and respect that but lets leave it at that, kay?
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Lord_Ash - 509 days 20 hours ago
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Ok this guy is starting to get on my nerve, you made one excellent game, Hurray, congrats, now make another great game and shut up...

He may be added to the list of "people so full of them self they can never get over it" along side Tomonobu Itagaki.
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SmarterThanYou - 509 days 20 hours ago
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6 - this levine dude is getting arrogant.
he went from "i didn't think bioshock would be so popular" to "bioshock saved the shooter market, b****es ".
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name - 509 days 20 hours ago
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I really think he's being taken out of context. I think he's saying that if bioshock didn't succeed, then people would have been hesitant to try something different with shooters. That's how I feel about games like Mirror's Edge. I want them to succeed so people will be encouraged to do different things.
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morganfell - 509 days 16 hours ago
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Except Mirrors Edge was in development long before Bioshock released and became a hit...
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ape007 - 509 days 20 hours ago
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will if acclaim remake turok 2 on a nextgen systems(which is in my wildest dreams)

bioshock will be a joke TBH

nothing beats the awesome old games

the river of souls,oh never forget this unbelievably epic level

the soundtrack of that level is pure epicness
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ape007 - 509 days 19 hours ago
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bioshock is one the best games today

I like it cause it;s more like the old games

NO RECHARGABLE HEALTH,CARRY A LOT OF WEAPONS,HAVE PLAZMIDS
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MazzingerZ - 509 days 19 hours ago
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"I don't even know how we convinced people to pay for BioShock.

Microsoft did, without that marketing the game wouldn't had reached as many people as it did which was good.

Personally, I liked The Darkness better... by the way, it came out first so didn't The Darkness also helped a little to refresh the FPS-story driven genre??
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Excalibur - 509 days 19 hours ago
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10.1 - Agreed.
The Darkness was a cool game.
I didn't get the recognition it should have.
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Meresin - 509 days 19 hours ago
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Yeah, The Darkness was a really great game. The shooting mechanics could have been better, in my opinion, but the powers you got from the Darkness combined with the excellent story kept me playing it through to the end. It's actually the game I was most looking forward to when I picked up a console, since it never made it to PC.

Reminded me a lot of Requiem: Avenging Angel. An FPS, plus a whole host of new and unique ways to kill people. What's not to like?

I really hope that they crank out a sequel. I'm not sure how they'd pull it off, but it's something I'd like to see...Especially if they can make it look better on PS3 than the first one did. That port looked pretty rough. ;)
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MazzingerZ - 509 days 9 hours ago
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Starbreeze is working on the sequel...they're kind of undergound people, don't like interviews and stuff like that...the game will show up just months before its release rather than years...they're also working on the chronicles of riddick next-gen remake...
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YogiBear - 509 days 19 hours ago
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Cool game but it was too easy IMO.
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Leathersoup - 509 days 16 hours ago
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You should have played it on something other than the baby setting ;)
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Lord_Ash - 508 days 22 hours ago
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Yeah I agree that it was easy specially the last Boss, he is such a weak ass, I didn’t even heal my self not even once, any big daddy is harder than him.
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Meresin - 509 days 19 hours ago
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Bioshock just looks like a reimagination of Requiem: Avenging Angel to me.
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morganfell - 509 days 16 hours ago
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Man you deserve a gold star. That was a kick ass game far far above Bioshock. And what a great story.
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faiizow - 509 days 17 hours ago
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He didnt save anything , he just revived the originality of it to a much more mainstream audience.

you can feel full of yourself for that anyday. quite an accomplishment.
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ElfShotTheFood - 509 days 13 hours ago
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I wish Levine would stop talking about this game; yes it was good, but what was so special about it?

And kudos to the person who mentioned Requiem: Avenging Angel. That was fun. As soon as I saw the "Insect Swarm" upgrade in BioShock I knew where they stole it from. ;)
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