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"The addition of local multiplayer is an essential addition to make Motorstorm Pacific Rift a successful sequel, but there are always sacrifices when adding that much action to the screen. I asked Paul Hollywood, the Executive Producer, from Evolution Studios about this and what cuts would be made to allow four people on screen at once. The full interview is in our last podcast but here is a small snippet."
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pwnsause
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i dont see how thats a big deal. Motorstorm is a graphical powerhouse. for such a game to run at 30fps with that level of detail is an acheivement.
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True but I don't think anyone sees this as a problem. The tracks are absolutely huge and for it to be locked at 30 fps even in multiplayer Split-Screen modes is just awesome.
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- 501 days 3 hours ago
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1.2 - So why wouldnt they try to get 60fps when playing by yourself?
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Maddens Raiders
- 501 days 3 hours ago
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1.3 - 30 FPS is all that's needed -
MOTORSTORM is the zenith of off-road racing & fun on any home console.
There is no other game like it - period.
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ConanOBrien
- 501 days 2 hours ago
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1.4 - We believe in 30 FPS
..and not 120 FPS. Respect teh CELL Broadband Engine!!! my ass.
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Fox01
- 500 days 23 hours ago
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1.5 - ha MtorStorm....
... my first next-gen game.
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jaysquared
- 500 days 21 hours ago
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1.6 - What's the big deal?
Sony made it a big deal saying that all PS3 games were going to run at 60fps minumum and some at 120 fps.. Saying how 1080p will be native resoultions for all PS3 games. So another case of Sony over promising and under delivering!
Fox01- How can you consider Motorstorm next gen when it didn't even a last gen feature which was MP splitscreen.. LOL!
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jtucker78
- 500 days 19 hours ago
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Hmmmm.... How can Motorstorm be considered Next Gen when it doesn't have Last Gen features?
Clever.
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Stagerman
- 500 days 8 hours ago
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how many next gen games can you name that don't have splitscreen. The list doesn't end
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The graphics in motorstorm 2 are amazing. I never quite picked up on that the first time i saw this game. I'd rather pick this up then resistance 2 tbh
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Why is it news that a game runs at 30fps thats the standard for game, i could understand 60fps or below 30.
The fact that its only 30 is kinda a dissappointment since a lot of exclusive racing games like GT5:P and Forza 2 run at 60fps
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Bombibomb
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You obviously have no idea what Motorstorm games are like. Destructible environments, nice textures all over the place, huge tracks, lots of vehicles on screen, etc... It's not like your typical driving game.
And change your avatar. You're getting a crappy port.
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It's nothing like Forza or GT both in style, gameplay or even what it is. They're both "racers", but they're by no means the same.
Motorstorm has a lot of track deformation, a lot of racers at once and really amazing level of detail in what is essentially an arcade racer.
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Forza doesnt run at 60fps...
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juuken
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...You know nothing.
Don't even try.
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mistertwoturbo
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Cahill, NBA Home Street Court is full 1080p on the 360. As well as Virtua Tennis 3. And FIFA Street.
Granted though, they are also full 1080p on the PS3 as well, and are just sports games that don't even have too much going on anyway.
Here, just look at the list. PSN games are mostly 1080p though which is great.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...
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Scotracer
- 501 days 3 hours ago
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3.8 - @ 3.6
But GT5P doesn't run at native 1080p...it's anamorphic 1080 (1440x1080 or 1280x1080 -- I forget which).
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- 501 days 6 hours ago
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4 - Splitscreen is what hurt the first one...
when friends came over we wanted to race each other but couldn't
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- 501 days 6 hours ago
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I love the first Motorstorm and since this one has split screen it's a day one purchase for me..
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Infernus
- 501 days 5 hours ago
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4.2 - Same here...
Big problem though, Resistance 2 comes out right on top of it, not much of a rest for the wallet really lol
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beavis4play
- 501 days 5 hours ago
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4.3 - infernus, pay for 1 of them now,
then you only need to pay for one when they release. just a thought.
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Nice to hear that...I'd be worried if they were trying to run it at 60 fps...it's not like environments are static as in a normal racing game like GT5P and similar
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Also encase if people complain, they had to completely rebuild their engine, so yeah they made some major improvements over the first one, it is not even close to being optimized as it should be.
Edit: I know because they had specifically stated that their code base in the first game was built for single screen only. Which means that they had to recode and rebuild their engine since they could not modify MS1 engine. Therefore they have not had as much time improving the engine compared to say Insomniac would.
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darkequitus
- 501 days 6 hours ago
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6.1 - How do you know?
How do you know are close their engineis to the finished article?
psn/xbl/x-fire/steam/wow : darkequitus
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Wha...? This news is saying that motorstorm 2 will hit 30fps solid EVEN in 4-player split screen, not bashing it saying "it's only going to run at 30fps". There is litle difference between 30fps and 60fps, in fact, IMO it only makes a difference if there are frame rate drops anyway (i.e. you won't really notice a drop from 60 but a drop from 30 would be more pronounced). I feel the same way about 720p/1080p - it only makes a difference if you are close to the screen (say on a computer screen, you can clearly see the difference between different resolutions in games), or if you have a mahoosive television. If they hit 720p with a locked 30fps I will be more than happy.
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Isn't 30 fps the norm for games?
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Infernus
- 501 days 5 hours ago
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Yep it is.
Usually only if a game can get 60fps as standard is it ever posted on N4G, but this looks like a flamebait article to me.
Motorstorm:PR will be awesome, with proper terrain deformation this time, not just the mud. The monster truck looks awesome!
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mistertwoturbo
- 501 days 3 hours ago
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Yes it is, but keeping it locked at 30fps with 4 player splitscreen is good news. However, some folks are right. Why couldn't they just have made it 60fps in single player, and then just downgrade it to 30fps in splitspcreen.
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They said they are having to limit the visual affects in 4 player split screen so as to keep the frame rate up. So in single player they are keeping the frame rate but upping the visuals.
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- 500 days 20 hours ago
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I thought the said that the visuals will look exactly the same in multi player and single player.
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y has a fan boi war started over how many fps motostorm runs at? is it really worth the fight.....when the game comes out if u like it by it and if u dont then dont by it,simple as that!!..leave the fps to the devs !!!!!
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10 - Motorstorm is better then forza!
Be afraid 360 people.
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That was a well thought out comment. I love the way you had some great details on why you think Motorstorm is better. :/
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- 501 days 4 hours ago
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they are not the same type of game.why are u starting a fanboy war?if your going to compare games compare gt5 to gorza 2.
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Running at a constant 30 FPS is hard to do!
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Yeah like Halo 3 with it's frame rate slow downs even at 640p resolution.
Go to the open zone already.
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- 500 days 22 hours ago
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I reckon you both need to spend some time in the open zone.
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Airborne for 20% of the track? That's awesome!
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- 501 days 4 hours ago
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13 - 30fps is fine for me
I don't usually have 3 people at my house for motorstorm anyways, 2 at most. I usually play online with my buds, so i get the whole screen to myself.
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i'm not a big racer but this will be the first racer i get, probably the only one i get this gen. if i like it alot and a 3rd comes out i might get that as well.
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- 501 days 2 hours ago
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16 - Add weapons
And we got a Twisted Metal Killer!!! >:D
Just playing. But they should add weapons. I loved Crash Team Racing because of the weapons.
They should also add other non-racing modes since its supposedly a "carnival". Add drifting modes, first one to get fully dirty mode, last one to get dirty mode, etc.
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Kratos3452
- 500 days 22 hours ago
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i wasn't saying forza 2 is better than gt5,i know gt5 is better but u have to compare the same type of game.u think i was just because i called out a ps3 owner?botyh systems have good games, but i like ps3 better.
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- 500 days 19 hours ago
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18 - Motorstorm 2 FTW
it will blow out the competitions(wannabe)like PURE and BAJA! I love the 1st one and the 2nd one looks promising! day one purchase!
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Viktor E
- 501 days 7 hours ago
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1 - Fantastic News
I'm looking forward to this Playstation 3 Exclusive AAA title
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1.1 - okay yea
how can they say that if the game isnt done yet? as far as I'm concerned the article is almost pointless cause the most changes happen to a game 3 months before release. odds are that it will probably run at 60FPS
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Snukadaman
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2 - "Motorstorm Pacific Rift to run at 30fps even in Splitscreen with Bigger Jumps"
The power of the cell cant bump it up to 60 fps???
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PirateThom
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Nahh 60 Fps, only for losers lol
I'm talking about 120 Fps cell,bluray , whatever
lol
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"Nahh 60 Fps, only for losers lol
I'm talking about 120 Fps cell,bluray , whatever
lol "
Ultimate Facepalm..
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Go and play some Too Human please.
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...You're an idiot.
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2.9 - Why do you care?
You won't even play it. Find me an off road racer like Motorstorm that runs at 60fps on any console and then we'll talk.
Lol, compare the Forza gameplay with Motorstorm gameplay. Motorstorm 2 is bigger, car damage goes a lot further, has less jaggies, looks better upclose, Motorstorm 1 looked better then Forza 2 graphically and GT5p runs at 1080p 60FPS and makes Forza 2 look dated. Forza 2 looked terrible and it had a mountain of jaggies. I can't believe what I'm hearing.
Lol, people aren't even bothering replying to you seriously. Your diss is a joke.
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2.10 - "Why do you care? You won't even play it."
And you droids will never buy a xbox 360 yet your so preoccupied with RROD...whats your point...
My point about the cell is if its so powerful why not show that power in a game that should show it...a first party game...a game you clowns would be proclaiming as the end all be all and will bring the next "judgment" day.
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2.11 - "And you droids will never buy a xbox 360 yet your so preoccupied with RROD...whats your point... "
Well, you won't find a post by me that brings up RROD like the spammers. I already own a 360.
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Wow Snuka...I love how you automatically assume that all *droids* don' own 360's.
You're stupider than I thought.
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Snukadaman
- 500 days 23 hours ago
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2.13 - "I already own a 360."
with no xbox gamertag though....save your act robodouche...trying to act like your a unbiased gamer only goes so far. junken acts like she is going to buy a xbox 360 all she wants...that SSI check can only buy so much doughnuts every month.
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2.14 - "with no xbox gamertag though"
Now you don't believe I have one? I already been through this. At then end of the day your the real douche bag/Microsoft leg humper and I'm an actual gamer who enjoys playing good games no matter what the console is. Your the 2nd person to say I don't have a gamertag/xbox. Step up to the plate. Message me if you want my gamertag. I probably own more 360 games then you, kid. You can't find any proof that I'm a droid and you resort to name calling. Good job.
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3 - @ Snuka Why?
If that's the case. Why not 80fps?
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you cant even tell a difference. 30fps is fine. Just go smoke you crack and get your RROD fix
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promised? i challenge you to find a single link from any site where i could see that quote. ;-)
it doesn't exist. so go away with your lies bot!
the x360 it's so crap that you need to even lie about stupid things to try to prove a point.
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It's quite possible to run a game on PS3 at 120fps. But pretty much every developer feels that is unnecessary. So instead they improve the graphics, maybe resolution as well - by running it at 1/4 of the framerate you can effectively increase the number of polygons on screen by a factor of 4. So yes, if MGS4, uncharted, GT5 had had the graphics of your bog-standard 360 game, they could, under the same engines, run at 60fps and maybe even at 120fps. But the devs made the decision to run those games at 30/60 fps instead in order to improve the graphics.
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"It's possible, says Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi; all that's needed is a TV capable of displaying it".
ok...where is it exactly that he promised that?
This article was in 2005, it also says:
"Never mind that even newer TVs aren't capable of refreshing the screen 120 times in a single second. Kutaragi said that when new technology comes to market, he hopes to have the PS3 ready to take advantage of it".
You can find those TVs since 2006 I think. Now, games at 120fps depend on the skills of the developers and how good they get to work with it. I am 100% sure that it will happen and that game will be developed by a Japanese company.
Please! cut the crap with the "they promised 120fps" bs, he said it was possible he never promised.
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Why does'nt Forza run at 120 fps?
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motorstorm1 was also 30fps so that means its still gunna be the baddest most raw intence off road dirt racing experience on earth. motorstorm was great the way it was, 60 fps would be nice though. my most anticipated game.
this is living.
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9.1 - @PoSTedUP ;)
Yeah;) MotorStorm 1 was brilliant! ;-P
Can't wait for the 4 player off-line mode!!! ;-P
+It's still better looking than anything on the xBox 360!!! ;-D
PS3 = This is Living
xBox 360 = This is Dying!!! ;-D
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Can't wait for this game!
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juuken
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Keep your zipper up please. We don't want to see that c*ck oozing with puss. :)
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11 - @ Zerodin
"SCE president Ken Kutaragi says he EXPECTS the PS3 to be capable of running games at a stunning 120fps"
You said he PROMISED.
Expects = promises in Zerodin's world.
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All these Sony "promises" are usually said to be "expectations".
If the PS3 gets one game that runs in 1080p, 120fps then it's expectations met.
Still waiting on those Toy Story 2 level graphics on XBox though.
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No, it wasn't Sony, it was Bill Gates.
http://wired-vig.wired.com/...
"Gates said the 3-D chips in the Xbox would be three times faster than anything on the market and offer nearly unlimited graphical visuals. "We're approaching the level of detail seen in Toy Story 2," he said, referring to the computer-generated kids film from Disney/Pixar."
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From your link:
"People have been overwhelmed by the graphical performance, but I haven't heard it described in those terms," said John Taylor, managing director and analyst for Arcadia Investment Co.
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maybe by the end of the ps3's lifespan a game will come out with 120fps, so its not really a lie. for example gow2 exceeded what was thought possible on the ps2.
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Also it was said here on stage with Bill Gates at CES2001. Look at what Seamus Blackley said onstage with Gates:
http://www.microsoft.com/pr...
"I mean, that's just stunning. These guys are achieving the level of visual detail that you really did get in Toy Story, and this is a real game, this is the way the game really plays."
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hey Zerodin well both the 360 and PS3 lost to a inferior system the Wii.
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Its runnin at 30fps because of all the sh1t happening on-screen. HDR lighting, havok physics, anti-aliasing, motion blur, d.o.p, particle effects, (etc).
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30 fps is plenty for anything. i think feature films only run at 24 fps. that's plenty.
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17 - Technically...
The game IS running at 120fps. 4 screens at 30fps each equal 120fps! lets go through it again slowly for the xbox 360 fanboys...
4 X 30 = 120
Seriously though why would anyone make a game at 120 fps when our eyes can (I believe) only register up to 60fps? That would be a gross mismanagement of processing power and resources.
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