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Microsoft and Square Enix are telling conflicting stories regarding the release timing of the PS3 and X360 versions of Final Fantasy XIII according to Gameplayer. Writer Chris Stead has clarified his reasoning for why Final Fantasy XIII will not see the light of day until at least 2010 on Xbox 360 which includes the revelation.
"Now as to Microsoft's claims that the game will release simultaneously alongside the PS3 version in English territories, well, unless they know that the English PS3 version will be held up until the Xbox 360 version is ready – which would suck balls - then that contradicts what Square Enix told us directly."
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B-Rein
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1 - true say gameplayer au
it totally agree what they are sayin there,
i think the ps3 shud come out first here in eu and us timed exclusive instead of both versiond relesed at 1s cus i jus cant wait for this game, if it gets delayed cus of xbox 360, then fans would be a bit angry
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Genesis5
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Well hope we don't all suffer because of MS and their damn cheque book. That would cheese me off.
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1.2 - SQUARE NEVER SAID FF WILL RELEASE THE SAME TIME AS THE PS3
version,they said the 360's version will release across europe and the usa simultaneously(BIG DIFFERENCE),people need to read whats infront of them and not what they would like to see
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1.3 - You can bet the money that MS dumped in SE's lap
includes a clause for a date and day release with the PS3 English version. And yes, I believe this does mean they will hold off the PS3 version until the 360 version is done. Of course they'll put out some bull reason for the delay like Bethesda did with the Fallout 3 DLC. I'm sure MS also makes them sign a NDA where SE can't publicly state the true nature for the delay.
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"available at launch in NA and EU", means available when they are launched in each territory... ENG 101.
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Exactly, this is what I've been saying from Day one of E3. Localisation does NOT take as long as porting a game
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If this is true then this confirms Microsoft payed for FFXIII. Square-Enix would have no incentive other wise to keep a finished game off the market.
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1.7 - Man oh man that would suck so bad
if I have to wait for them to make a 360 port before I could play it on my PS3. I'm not sure if Square is trying to wiggle some money from Sony to ensure that it at least comes out for PS3 in NA and Europe when it's ready or not, but if Square delays the game just to make the 360 version that's going to P off PS3 owners, FF fans, and anyone that wanted the game ASAP.
If you own a 360 it's not like you're not getting the game at some point. You can still not buy a PS3 to play it. But if you're like me and dying for the next installment in Final Fantasy, you just want the game.
I'll be following this closely.
Edit: Does this mean we may have versus in the U.S. and Europe before 13? If 13 gets delayed for a substantial amount of time due to the whole 360 thing, then maybe they just release versus, no?
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"Means available when they are launched in each territory." Fragment (consider revising)....MSWord
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it's only a fragment because you made it one. His sentence as a whole is not a fragment.
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1.10 - more then a bit angry
i will have a true hate for MS if them buying this game means PS3 owners will need to wait for the games release!
and tell the truth even the 360 fans on this site should hate this also if its true that MS is the cuase for FF fans to have to wait that much longer for the game!
I can care less because im not a FF guy but for the fans of the series this move by MS is indeed a sh!t move for gamers! If its true that it delays the PS3 version!
I was still thinking of buying a 360 after a real price cut on this new 60GB 360! If they delay FF for the PS3 just to deny Sony fans this game i will never buy anything from MS and i will spit much stronger venom anytime i post
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1.11 - Sorry Microsoft, but.....
lol
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That was what I said when GTA4 was held back because of PS3 developement. They should release the game on which ever console version is done.
However, 360 owners suffered alot on multiplatform games being held back because of the PS3. With this news, I see no reason why they shouldn't hold it back for us.
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I thought of that too, GTA4 was delayed cause of the PS3 version. But I guess the difference here is that FF Fans are going to want this game more, and Microsoft is holding them back because of their own business interest at the last moment. Back with GTA4, it was decided through contracts long ago that the 360 & PS3 Version would release simultaneously, so the world already knew that there could be delays to shape up both versions of the game. But a sudden PS3 Exclusive gone multiplatform and then the game is delayed because of it is just wrong because it's like being shafted at that last moment. Sure it's being very picky, but in this scenario it makes Microsoft look like dillholes for even making it multiplatform cause every FF fan loses out because of Microsoft's deep-pockets and some 'incentives'.
I really do agree that this is karma payin itself back for GTA4's release, but I really feel that unlike GTA4's release, Sony didn't suddenly jump out and force Rockstar to delay the 360 version. That was decided long ago in 2007.
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1.15 - GTAIV?!
Why are you guys comparing the development of GTAIV to FFXIII? FFXIII was announced as an exclusive for the PS3 ever since day one until just recently at E3 08. The game was in development for the PS3 for years and was more than likely supposed to release sometime in the near future. And now since SE wanted to develop the game for the 360 also, the release date of both version will probably be extended if it planned to release both version simultaneously.
But in GTAIV case, both versions of the game were announced and developed at the same time. Sure both cases involve with prolonging the release of the game due to development pertaining to a certain console, but the reason behind each case is different.
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1.16 - this would put MS in even a worse light for me
i'm not a FF fan at all so its just the principle of it all that upsets me. the thought of making fans of the game wait just because MS told them to pisses me off.
if PS3 owners have to wait longer because of MS, i'll just skip the game all together. i've never played a FF game anyway so it wouldn't be a big lost for me. i was just going to buy it to see what all the hype was about. but if Square doesn't care about PS3 owners and would have them wait just to please MS, then i don't care about them.
they can keep that sh!t
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1.17 - It will be released simultaneously!!!
"As Square Enix later clarified, the game is being finished for the PS3 first for Japan, then work will begin on porting it to the Xbox 360 for a simultaneous release in the U.S. and Europe"
http://www.1up.com/do/newsS...
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1.19 - If PS3 version gets delayed...
then even M$ boys should see what real piece of garbage that corporation really is. And as for people saying GTA-4 was delayed because of PS3, well so what...GTA was Playstation's exclusive game at one point and deserves a simultaneous release at the very least.
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The GTA4 delay was not the PS3 fault, both versions where not done. My friend works for rockstar and gave me the scoop way back when they first announced the delay. Blaming the PS3 was an assumption by many sites that seemed to become fact in alot of people tiny brains.
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perhaps he meant console exclusive? timed-exclusive?
gta1 was only available on the pc and ps1 (simultaneous)
gta2 was available on pc and ps1 (simultaneous) and 6 months later or whatever dc
gta3 was only on ps2, 6 months later pc, 6 months later xbox
gta vice city ps2 only, 6 months later pc, 6 months later xbox
gta san andreas ps2 only, 6 months later pc,xbox
don't take the 6 months period too seriously, it's just an "default" example i'm giving, i'm pretty sure it took longer every single time
edit @ megatron08: lol perhaps, now he knows when they came out =D
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Infernus
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Rockstar did say the delay was not due to the PS3 version. They put the game back and developed the multiplayer, there was an article on here a while before GTA4's release.
Blaming the PS3 version was a 360 fanboy concoction last year, the time when the 360 fanboyism was rife on this site (TheMart being the main culprit), now that that's calmed down and the PS3 is [seemingly] doing better in the news everyone assumes the PS3 fanboys have taken over (Like this site is some kind of turf war) when that's not the case, it's just things have calmed down a lot since last year and the PS3 has actually got better in the eyes of the press. Just because the PS3 is doing well doesn't mean PS3 fanboys run this site lol.
As for FF13, Square have said that localisation for the PS3 version starts at the same time as the development for the 360 version, I doubt that a port can be completed before localisation is done...
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1.25 - only 1 thing to say
im planning on buying a 360 for fable 2, but if ffXIII is delayed due to the 360, I'll be f'in pissed...FF13 was exclusive until recently, so if FF13 is done, it better release before the 360
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Honeal2g
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2.2 - The guy who wrote this Article has convinient amnesia
Dont know if they heard of this little title called Star Ocean 4 which runs on Crystal tools and for the moment is exclusive for the 360 and is scheduled for a march 2009 release and has already shown gameplay...other than that he makes some good points but i felt his main point was contradicted when he said
"So we know Square Enix hasn’t started working on the Xbox 360 version at all yet, a format to which they and the Crystal Tools engine are very new. We’re well aware that Square Enix is familiarizing themselves with the architecture of the Xbox 360 with The Last Remnant, but that runs on the super-box-friendly Unreal Engine 3."
Maybe the team makin final fantasy isnt involved while Star Ocean is a joint production between another division of square and tri-ace ..but the fact is 360 has long been exposed to the Crystal Tools engine plain and simple.
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@ E3 they said it would be released at the same time in USA & Europe. Major Nelson also confirmed this in his pod cast.
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Then all Microsoft are doing is making gamers wait for a game.
If this game is finished for PS3 it should be released, I have a PS3, I shouldn't have to wait for 360 to play catch up.
Just as developers didn't make 360 owners wait for PS3 versions.
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3.2 - @ Pirate
Pretty much what I wanted to say. Square-Enix have confirmed that they're finishing the PS3 version first before porting it to 360.
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3.3 - @ wicked
come on, it makes more sense to realease it when its ready, if the localised ps3 version of XIII is ready before the 360 version then release it, why should we wait? nelson saying it doesn't mean sh!t btw
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Same time meaning USA and Europe at the same time? Or Same Time in PS3 and 360, in USA and Europe?
See what happens when idiot websites who have the chance to ask good questions at PC's and intereviews fail to do so, to clarify a very pressing question? Nobody freaking asked them to clarify this. As Niko Belic would say, "Eeedeeeots!
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if they do come out simultaneously then well have to wait another couple of years :)
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2010? So what games do microsoft have to offer next year?
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Alan Wake and Halo 4. Probably.
Mass Effect 2. Possibly.
Multiplatform games.
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it doesnt look like very much from their e3 showing
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5.3 - @5.1
who here has even SEEN alan wake? I haven't heard any details or seen any videos. Tough to get excited about a mystery project with no release date.
Honestly, I don't know why 360 fans are so excited already about FF13. 2010 is a long way off.
We could honestly be out of Iraq by then. (just kidding)
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MS focuses their E3 on this years games. They haven't announced any 2009 games yet (except the delayed ones and Halo Wars).
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i doubt the PS3 version will be a timed exclusive for a few reasons:
-FF isnt coming out in Japan on 360 (keep Sony happy)
-If MS did pay for FF i doubt they would pay for it to be a timed exclusive for the PS3 since that would be a waste of money for them
-The trailer at MS press conference clearly stated it will be released at launch and SE have said many times its a simuatanoues release
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6.1 - ok
but im sure microsoft didn't pay, if they did the game would be released in japan. Alot of people just assume microsoft pays for anything and everything that gets released on the xbox 360 for some reason. Logical reasons like, xbox 360 owners buy alot of games and DLC go right out the window in these discusions.
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6.2 - kev
that is the problem with being a logical thinker on a site littered with crazy people, just go with it. Microsoft Pays for everything, every 360 RROd's, the PS3 is finished like the dream cast, HDMI is necessary for better picture,
why are these things true, because the fanboys on this site say so
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6.3 - @6 MS already wasted money with GTA4 DLC...
...so another million here and there doesn't matter right??... right??
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Kev, how can you be sure? MS's penetration is very poor in Japan and the return on their investment for that territory may not be worth it. It's also illogical to think every deal that is cut is of the all-or-nothing type. It has not been disclosed whether MS paid for FF13 or not and anyone who says they KNOW and isn't employed by either firms accounting departments is lying at worst and misleading at best.
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I agree, I don't think MS paid, I think Square decided to put it out on 360 in the US and EU because of the install base of the 360.
They actually said it themsevles, they felt the install base of the PS3 wasn't looking like enough in those territories to keep it exclusive. Which, imo, is a fatal business mistake by Square. If they'd have kept it exclusive in Europe and the US then you'd get those people who'd buy a PS3 for FF13 and thus increase the install base, then later on they could put it out on 360 and earn even more.
By making this multiplatform they've cut out the potential added income from the PS3 newcomers and also made the 360 crowd expect this on day 1 which won't happen. So they'll be taking a lot of criticism up until 2010, either by loyal fans attacking them because they moved to 360 as well or by 360 fans who expected it the same day as the PS3 version.
Right now, Square are aiming for a simultaneous release, but unless they can make a port as quickly as they can localise then I think the 360 version could be a few weeks (maybe even a few months) behind.
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7 - Square
have said that the PS3 version will be done first and released in Japan. During the time of the translation to English for EU and the US they will be porting it to the 360 and tweaking it to run it's best on that platform. So the PS3 Japanese version will have already been done and selling in Japan at this time, as it's usually been for all FF games.
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Good, if they're not holding up the Last Remnant release because of the PS3 development then they shouldn't hold up the global version of the PS3 FFXIII because of 360 development. Don't say anything about different teams, aside from programming those resources can be used on either side.
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not this again!! you all saw the E3 presentation. we ALL HEARD the guy say that they will release simultainously in the English speaking regions. I think many sites like to start a fire an fan it with nonsense.
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9.1 - read it
before you blast off. Teh article doesn't say otherwise. It merely talks about how in the proceeding FFXIII Q & A and the sites own 1hr long interview with Square Enix they said, or at least suggested, the opposite.
As in MS were lying.
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1.1 - 'Final Fantasy XIII will not see the light of day until at least 2010 on Xbox 360'
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Will the xBox 360 still be around by then!!! ;-D
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1.2 - poor xbot
poor xbot
poor xbot, square enix know that that the 4th microwave of the xbox brand will be out by 2010. poor xbot, square enix is saying they are delivering it in 2010 just to shut yous up. very very very poor xbot, they can see into the future and can tell us know through me that 20 million homes will be set on fire. poor xbot, from all us gods here on n4g.com we hope you enjoy your time in hell. very very very extremly poor xbot, BYE BYE;')
POOR XBOT
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1.3 - "Will the xBox 360 still be around by then!!!"???
yes in the form of XBOX 3...
but like the Zillions in the end....PS3 version please.
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very rich droid
very rich droid(like my self, you speak utter sence. how you got 1 buble i will never no. bubble up. i think the answer is that the poor xbots have to steel bubbles. shame on you.
very rich droid
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Oh no, i will try my best in makin the PS3 version of Final Fantasy timed exclusive, but micro$oft took my son captive, please im sorry Final Fantasy fans as soon as my assault group get him back i will do my best to make it timed exclusive.
Ps Im soo sorry Ken-san
Also you are right Sh*tbox 360 will definitly die by then, so i wont get attacked by Micro$oft anymore and ill only develop games for the best console of all time PS3
I, Yoichi Wada, say "PS3 is a MONSTOROUS machine with capabilites far superior to any other games consoles ever made, it has no limitations unlike the Sh*tbox 360 which has so many"
(This was done before he was bribed at the E3 conference)
Square Enix Company, Limited
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the word is spelled 'pinnacle', d1psh1t.
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1.7 - poor xbot
poor xbot
poor xbot, please reframe from that frame of mind. poor xbot it is obvious that you have comman sence at all. you attack mindlessly. poor xbot, that just shows how poor and pethetic you are you ver ver very poor xbot.
poor xbot
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1.8 - NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! ;-D
@Pain ;) xBox 3??? Er why bother??? ;-D
@Yoichi_Wada ;) Hope your Son is ok now! ;-D Hopefully you will have good News for us PS3 Fans soon;)
@pinicle of life ps3 ;) Good name you got there;)
@n to the b = n00b to the bUM!!! ;-D
Haven't a clue what he is saying because i got all the xBot Lemmings on 'ignore'!!! ;-D Not interested in their rubbish thay say!
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1.9 - lol
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Squre already confirmed it to be a simultanious release wtf is this moron talking about. I swear PS magazines are the worst peices of articles ever.
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2.1 -
How is this website a ps3 magazine when they showcase all consoles.
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2.2 - If you stick around N4G long enough
you realize most of what www.gameplayer.com.au writes is wrong and sensationalized just to get hits on their website.
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2.3 - you won't have to stick around to long though
to see how pumpkin here is a bit of a baby. duplicate story, are you serious... can you read dude.
In a couple of weeks that mag will be out saying the same thing as well. I have been lied to too many times by the likes of Sony and Microsoft (and 1Up and IGN for that matter) to just believe their stuff. This makes much more sense to me. But then again i can think for myself.
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@cellypower
(It was later revealed to us in an intimate hour long interview with the developer that will appear in the next issue of Official PlayStation Magazine Australia on sale August 13th)
Like I said this article complete fanboy bullocks. And the woest damage control ive eevr seen.
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Kage-Proxy
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WTF!?!?!
Some more biased droid sh1t that is being published as "fact".
Shinji Hashimoto already said in his interview with 1Up that there wont be a delay...
"Shinji Hashimoto: No, the development of a 360 version won't necessarily affect the PS3 version, purely because the PS3 game will be completed first. That's been in development for some time and is still on schedule. And, really, since we haven't ever announced any sort of release date...then it couldn't really be "delayed," right?"
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Kage-Proxy
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Wtf the "Disagrees" for?
It is not my fcking article! Check the 1Up site.
Droids should at least have the balls to back up the sh1t they spout on sites.
The author owns a ps3....
"...unless they know that the English PS3 version will be held up until the Xbox 360 version is ready – which would suck balls - then that contradicts what Square Enix told us directly."
How the fck is this unbiased???
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4.2 - ^^^^^
im guessing another multiple account from and xbox fanboy.
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WoW, you really care if you get disagrees? just post your opinion and who cares if everyone disagrees with you, stop being a baby.
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n to the b
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4.4 - looks like FFXII is a sore spot now for the droids
rofl at all the disagrees to Kage-Proxy. a little defensive about your former 360-killer sony fanboys...?
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The site isn't even working...o_o
But I could imagine Microsoft and Square telling conflicting stories. Ya never know.
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Kage-Proxy
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Hahahaha!
That was funny!
Even if smells like droid!
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Wii60Fan
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6.2 - You have
A really warped view of things.
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7 - I love
How butthurt you xboxers get.
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Kage-Proxy
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7.1 - Not as much...
...as seeing droids p1ssing their pants when FFXIII was made multiplatform.
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I HATE THIS WEBSITE! IT NEVER LOADS FOR ME. TAKES TEN HOURS TO LOAD!!! IM USING FIREFOX 3!!
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Not this sh*t again..
PS3 fanboys are fucin pathetic.
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Poor poggy woggy :(
Want a tissue little buddy?
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*chuckles* ha, poggy woggy
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11.3 -
And your any better?
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12 - Thank you SE
you have redeamed yourself for announcing FF XIII on the 360. I forgive you now sence the 360 version wont be around till 2010 :D I was hoping it would be a timed exclusive :D
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12.2 - ok thats the last thing I'm reading from you xbot
ignored :P have fun with your 360 RRoD on you while you try to play your 20 disk version of FF XIII
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13 -
Message to all bots: A Final Fantasy XIII port won't save your precious RRoDbox!! by the time 2010 rolls around the the Black beast will be done feasting on its rotting corpse.
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14 - 2010???
Forget it. 360 fanboys won't care about this game by then, they only care about it because its a stolen exclusive. Nothing else.
Have fun waiting...
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no cause final fantasy sucks ass now
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2010?...............HA!HA!HA!H A!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA !HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA! HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!H A!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA !HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA! HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!H A!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!
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FFvs13 should come to the 360, this version isnt that important
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