Did Microsoft Rip Off Miis? - And Other Hard Questions We Asked At E3

BulletToothtony - 523 days 18 hours ago

MS should've definitely should've tried to come up with something cool.. some spore type avatar or something.. it wouldn't had looked like the miis and wouldve been cooler to create.

But now it looks like they just copied nintendo..

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panasonic23 - 523 days 18 hours ago

did sony copy ms xbl did sony copy ms achievement

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ICUP - 523 days 17 hours ago

Is this a trick question?

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name - 523 days 17 hours ago

Did microsoft rip off singstar with lips?

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Fernando8777 - 523 days 17 hours ago

where have you been these past days

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Smacktard - 523 days 17 hours ago

Great, I can't watch the video cause I live in Canada. What the hell is the deal with that, anyways? Is it uploaded to Youtube, or can someone summarize the responses to the questions for me?

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panasonic23 - 523 days 17 hours ago

Karaoke Revolution: November, 2003 (PS2, Xbox, GameCube)
- Xbox Music Mixer: 1st December, 2003 (Xbox)

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- Singstar: 21st May, 2004 (PS2)
- UltraStar: July, 2004 (Windows, Mac, Linux)
- Get On Da Mic: October, 2004 (PS2)
- Boogie: 9th August, 2007 (Wii, PS2, DS)
- High School Musical Sing It!: 26th October, 2007 (PS2, Wii)
- LIPS: TBA Holiday 2008 (Xbox360)

It's worth noting that the Sega Saturn can read Karaoke CD+G and has a STANDARD, inbuilt ability to adjust pitch and mute vocals (quasi-karaoke feature) of any present music disc.

Microsoft ripped off the EyeToy as much as Sony ripped off the:

Dreameye:
- Released 14th September, 2000 for Dreamcast
- Able to be used as a stand-alone camera (3 Megapixels)
- Bundled with a microphone headset to be used for webcam/chat
- Planned games were scrapped due to the early demise of the Dreamcast.

As for Avatar's, there is no denying their origin, but they improve upon the function of Mii's tenfold. As for gamer profile personalisation ?

Dreamcast VMU Icons > Gamercards > Mii's > Avatars

Let's clear some repetitive bullshit up because without expanding upon previous ideas we'd all still be playing Pong and Space Invaders

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harry190 - 523 days 17 hours ago

Lips: Singstar
you're In The Movies: Eyetoy
Dashboard: Look at Apple interface.

But that does not mean it's bad because in the end they are bringing those features which are considered 'good' to their faithfuls.

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wicked - 523 days 17 hours ago

Isn't the same a Sony putting Miis in HOME? or are they some how different?

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Xi - 523 days 17 hours ago

avatars are the personification/characterizati on, and logical step, of one's gamercard first and formost.

However in the cartoony and "childish" design, then yes.

It's loose loose for MS though. Had they decided to show more realistic characters it would've been considered ripp-off of sims/second life... like home. Now they're branded as ripping off mii's.

Honestly, I wont care as long as I can dress my avatar up in a spartan outfit.

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dro - 523 days 17 hours ago

YES. But u should all no by now that in the world of competition people copy each others idea and make the different, the ps3 copies achievements but made it different just how ms copied wii miis and made it different. its just like the games we by every games copy ideas from other games but make it different battle filed had the ranking system then cod4 changed it and added it to their game just like many fps would be doing in the future. when ur in competition competition that is how it is so ps3/360 fan bois dont be bias and blind to see that ur company u support does not copy other companys.

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sidar - 523 days 17 hours ago

Define: ripping off.
The whole bizz works like this, else we would not see any improvements at all.

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Iceman100x - 523 days 17 hours ago

Yes do you think they would have come up with it if nintendo didn't?

"Microsoft didn't invent online gaming or achievements, even though they try to make people (you) believe they did."

Of course the users created their own achievements...anyone remember the mario bros speed runs?

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themyk - 523 days 16 hours ago

he said they didn't have to talk about bungie. and he was worried about keeping people in their conference for too long.

but they had enough time to show all the big third party games. what a slap in the face to bungie. you could totally tell he wasn't expecting that question. and he looked like a complete idiot.

that was awesome.

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FantasyStar - 523 days 16 hours ago

Pretty much. I have little problem seeing them do this because it adds a taste of Miis to every 360 out there. It's always good for a system to have more features cause it makes the system better. You can say that Sony copied Microsoft's Xbox Live, but don't we as gamers benefit from this? It's not like Sony covered up the fact they copied off of Xbox Live, hell back before PS3's release they even said they're going to try and aggressively compete with Microsoft's Online Service with something similar of their own. It's called "respecting the competition" and even though Sony did copy from Microsoft, Sony respects Microsoft as proud contenders and ever since the race for the best online service has begun.

BUT according to that link, Microsoft is sounding they came up with the idea long ago. That's disrespect for Nintendo and it's that kind of trash that's not ok and is a problem outright.

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Tyrael - 523 days 16 hours ago

I don't think Miis, or anything along those lines, deserve anything beyond a second thought.

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Hellangelzx - 523 days 16 hours ago

And This my honest opinion.

Microsoft did make a rip off of miis.

They look too eerily alike.

It's nice to hear though that the decided to add customizable clothes to the Ms avatars.
SO that makes it a bit more original in its own.

Even though it seems that Home will be doing that.

Who cares, if all the consoles have a version of it, We should all be effin happy.

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CrizzleC24 - 523 days 14 hours ago

All success is measured in originality and innovation. Good artists borrow,great artists steal. All artistic theft is measured in time and distance from original product. If sony made a game like halo 2 and called it halo 2 then it'd be illegal. If you change sony's game to killzone and change the aliens from convenant to helgast then its legal.

Its all within realms of separation, If sega made a game called mario, it'd be illegal, even if it changed the name to sonic it'd still be illegal. But when you change the character from a Italian plumber to a fast moving hedghog then its legal (despite all the same mechanics and styles including but not limited to same brick powerups, spikes secret areas bright vivid areas and instant death if not at full power).

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Greedy Genius - 523 days 14 hours ago

my speakers are kinda messed up(blew out) so can sum1 plz tell me what they said

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350ZRunner - 523 days 12 hours ago

Does Microsoft look at something successful and attempt to emulate it? Of course they do. They've only been at it for just about as long as they've been making software, why should their console be any different?

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Hellraizer - 523 days 9 hours ago

there were 3d avatars before the miis, even from Microsoft themselves (for the live messenger)

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kewlkat007 - 522 days 21 hours ago

I remember getting one of these before the Wii was out...

http://www.meez.com/

so many sites started with these and even on AIM...

Every Core Function of anything is always there when someone else tries it.

Take a look at Sony's HOME and you will see Second Life and similar to the Sims cept on Consoles. Sony didn't create 3-D interactive world.
Do I care no but the core function is there from other things.

To me a rip-off is like an Exact Model of something made to resemble that same product it copying but cheaply made.

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juuken - 523 days 17 hours ago

Is this a trick question?

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power of Green - 523 days 17 hours ago

They forgot to ask about Sony's movie service and Wii multiplayer and store etc... the fucin list goes on and on. The bottom line is MSFT is leading the way in innovation and Sony has yet to come up with something that has or forces the competition to follow suit. lol

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power of Green - 523 days 17 hours ago

Online console Multiplayer
Online console video/stores
Console HDD's
Console features
Console Guid/interface

On and on Who asks about all these things?.

Looks like everybody can "copy" but MSFT despite MSFT's competition modeling their platforms based on the Xbox design lol.

Just grumping because they forgot to ask about Sony's online features and services seeming simular to MSFT offerings as Avatars seem simular to whats on the Wii. That goes for Wii too; it also has things at its core software offerings modeled from the Xbox lol.

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Atomic - 523 days 17 hours ago

this is a proof the 360 is for 10 years old little kids. lol
we , PS3 owners we won't have kiddy gimmicky characters in HOME.

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power of Green - 523 days 17 hours ago

Hmmm... Dissagree's....

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shikwan - 523 days 16 hours ago

Did Sony rip-off Nintendo??

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MainEventX - 523 days 15 hours ago

I think microsoft should have done a lil something different since sony and nintendo both had customizable avatars.

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NegativeCreep427 - 523 days 14 hours ago

LOL!!!

Does a bear sh*t in the woods???

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jlytle1234 - 523 days 4 hours ago

no its not a rip off. they took the concept and implemented them much better than nintendo did.
They took the casual gamer kid friendly look and combined it with serious gamer features like the 8 person party feature.
And as im hearing they left the gamer pic for those who dont like the avatar system.
Its not a rip-off when its something that people are going to expect their console to offer. Like online services, hard drives, and movie stores.

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DFresh - 522 days 17 hours ago

It totally copying from the other competitors.
Just like MS ripped off the iPod w/ the Zune so does this new XBL Update.
Avatars = Copying Sony's Home
Characters = Copying the Mii
Dash Board = Resembles the PS3 Dash Board
MS = no innovation just copying others to gain a profit.

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