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Features Firmware 2.5 needs

TalkPlayStation.com writes:"Firmware 2.40 (or 2.41 for some people) was a fantastic upgrade, in fact, it's the best firmware release we've had so far (apart from a few problems, so lets call it 2.41). Lets identify whats missing and needed in the next Firmware upgrade presuming its firmware 2.5 if there are no small updates in between."

In game web browsing
Send voice messages
Access the XMB no matter what

To name a few.
daparky - contributor
Published: 518 days 23 hours ago | Article | PlayStation 3
 
 

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Fishy Fingers - 519 days ago
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"In game web browsing"

Why? It's not really something I imagine most need, also that would be a huge resource hog.
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GVON - 518 days 23 hours ago
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you can do it in MGO, but only in the menus which I think would be workable.
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Ben1054 - 518 days 23 hours ago
1.2 - Yep
from that list we dont need
in game web browsing
access playstation store ingame
appear offline (i hate that)

And he said that you cant delete all messages at once but you can
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Alexander Roy - 518 days 23 hours ago
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Well, it would be useful to have access to cheats or FAQs (both online, think of gamefaqs.com) while gaming... but yeah, the ressources needed would be pretty high. Besides, my Laptop is on pretty much all the time, so I don't need it. Still handy, though.
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Tempist - 518 days 22 hours ago
1.6 - Is not being satisfied a requirement for owning a PS3
Seriously, 2.4 / in-game XMB and people still want more features they're probably not going to use to their full extent.

I just want to say I'm 100% happy with the current round of changes, but I don't know why people want to try and get fame and infamy with writing complaint and desire lists over what features you get with the PS3.

Do people really spend all that much time on it that they can make lists about what they think other people need who don't spend as much time on it? Why have voice messaging when people don't even have microphones in the first place. That's a lot like demanding instant messaging to others without an internet connection at all.

And lastly give it time people. We get updates like once every two months, way more than both the Wii and the XBox360. I for one would be fine if no other updates came out.
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whoelse - 518 days 22 hours ago
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I want in-game web browsing because i can be playing a game and i want to check my emails or i want to check the latest news quickly without walking to my laptop and turning it on.

Also for me, Display Settings so i can quickly switch TVs when my dad wants to watch the TV in the lounge instead of me shooting people in GTA.
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Scarfy - 518 days 22 hours ago
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"I want in-game web browsing because i can be playing a game and i want to check my emails or i want to check the latest news quickly without walking to my laptop and turning it on."

Dude, seriously, are you really f cking thick? Do you not know the first thing about computers and how they work?!! They do not have an unlimited source of memory and resources!

If you COULD browse the internet whilst playing a game, the PS3 would have to start using tons of virtual memory to accomodate the needs of the browser. This in turn would mean that the system could become slow and unresponsive and maybe even unstable.

So what that you have to walk a couple of feet to a laptop to check the news??? Boo hoo.

Maybe you should consider going for a jog at the same time, lard arse.
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Bubble Buddy - 518 days 22 hours ago
1.9 -
In-game music and In-game chat.
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Real Gambler - 518 days 22 hours ago
1.10 - I guess people want a................ PC!
Common guys, we are talking about gaming consoles here.

If you want to surf the web while playing, then play on your pc and hit alt-tab
If you want cross game chat, do it on your pc, and use MSN and all those crapy virus magnet chat softwares.
If you want to send voice message, wait for the PC to do it... (not even there yet)
Change setting in games? Wow, that's something PCs are really good at. Sometime, you don't even have other choices.
Custom soundtracks? Run winamp or your favorite program at the back.
Cross game invites, any avatars, delete messages, appear offline? PC,PC, PC, PC....

Common guys, drop the $400 consoles, and just buy a $800 pc with an hdmi video card! Don't forget you also have to upgrade that PC every 2 years, and change it after 4 years. Consoles are just great for what they are. And you're saving $400. They are simple gaming and entertainment machine that can play very nicely in 1080p on your hdtv. Don't expect them to be like $800 to $1200 pc, they won't...
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Electricear - 518 days 21 hours ago
1.11 - Here is a feature I would like to see...
The ability to turn off friend notifications while watching a movie. IMO the single most annoying thing to me is sitting down with the wife and kids to watch a movie and in the middle of it up pops a message that one of my friends is online... I realize I could sign out to resolve the issue, but why not simply give people the ability to prioritize what points the system should alert you when a friend logs on. They could even add a feature to set it up so you can see a basic who's online list when you hit your ps button. That way if you decide to take an intermission at some point you could quickly check and see if some one is on or not with out having to quit the movie and navigate all around the xmb.
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Chester Bennington - 518 days 20 hours ago
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Wonder when 2.5 is coming out
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Rob0g0rilla - 518 days 20 hours ago
1.13 - I agree with everything but
Accessing the store and web browser. I rather see them get voice messages, custom soundtracks, and cross game invites in first.

Those are way more important.
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whoelse - 518 days 19 hours ago
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@ Scarfy

Whats up with you....

All i said is that i would love that to happen. If Sony can do that, i dont know but i know MGO can launch the web browser so.
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Scarfy - 518 days 19 hours ago
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"All i said is that i would love that to happen. If Sony can do that, i dont know but i know MGO can launch the web browser so."

Konami obviously made it as light on resources as possible.

However you would still get some moron who would complain bitterly that he is unable to watch a youtube video whilst in the middle of an intense battle of Killzone 2.

Do you how much memory a web browser consumes, without loading and running plugins such as flash?

Seriously people, let's dispense with the stupid feature requests.
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Lifendz - 518 days 19 hours ago
1.16 - in-game web browsing?
no thanks.

Just let me use a custom avatar for PSN and I'm happy. More games with trophies and custom soundtracks but that's a different matter.
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IC Weiner - 518 days 15 hours ago
1.17 - Dude
Chill, he just saying that it would be a nice feature to have in game web browsing. No need to blow a gasket
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rickjames - 518 days 14 hours ago
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theres already a way to appear offline... go to your avatar andm press triangle then select not available dum dum
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Sarick - 518 days 9 hours ago
1.19 - It could be done.
I'm sure a lot of these features that use large amounts of ram could be done. Figure it like the PC going into hibernate mode. The core system memory is reserved for the XMB etc.

What would happen is the memory would be frozen then all 500 megabytes stored on the HDD freezing the game state.

The web browser etc could then load up with full resources available to browse etc. The games state is stored as data on the HDD. When you switch back to the game it does the same with the browser and restores the stored state from the HDD.

Unfortunately, this wouldn't work with multi-player online games. it'd also be slow as %$&! every time you swapped from game to web browser or virsa because the memory would need swapped out every time.

Honestly imho, if this much effort is required to open an ingame web browser, I can see why it'd be better just to save the game, quit. then load it after collecting the web info.

You could be like me and have laptop or a Wii on 24/7 with an A/V switch. Just swap the video every time you want to check the browser.
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jamesrocks3147 - 519 days ago
2 - agree with most but
WE WANT VOICE CHAT OVER ALL GAMES! as default for god sake

and who needs web browser in game? and psn store not me not anybody really

in game voice chat is number 1 most have and then along with game invites would be good
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jlytle1234 - 518 days 23 hours ago
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in game web browsing is good for having a faq up and switching back and forth to read it.
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jaysquared - 518 days 23 hours ago
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What PS3 games don't support ingame voice chat?
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riddlesticks - 519 days ago
3 - 2.41
I doubt i am the only person who is experiencing problems with FW 2.41. I was able to get 2.4 before they took it down and i had absolutely no complaints with it. There was nothing wrong with it (for me anyway). Then when i got 2.41 my xmb seems to be responding ALOT slower. Its really lagging and i don't have that annoying little orange box (wtf is with that) open either. Its really annoying. Not just whilst i'm "in game" but when using it normally.

Also when i am in a game and receive a message, when i go to open the message i get the gray background which normally displays a message but no writing and my ps3 just freezes, nothing i can do but turn it off. Ok that dosent happen everytime but i'd say atleast once every ten times i open a message, which is too much anyway (shouldn't happen at all)

I don't know if any of these problems are directly associated with FW 2.41 or something else maybe wrong with my ps3. Hopefully the problems will just... go away?

I was wondering if anyone else has experienced problems like this?
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GVON - 518 days 23 hours ago
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no mate I haven't heard of that problem, you should backup your save and things to your ipod then restore ps3 in the system settings and reload your data and see if that helps
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ystrandz - 518 days 21 hours ago
3.2 - Yup
Same Problem .. Happens Once Every Ten Times And I Get The 3 Beeps When I Turn It Off .. As Your Case It Only Happened When I Got 2.41 .. 2.40 Was Doing Just Fine
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cLiCK_sLiCK9 - 518 days 19 hours ago
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Same here.
Xmb has been slower...for me. And At times it freezes and i get 3 beeps and turns off.

Do your Web Browsers Work fine? My Web browser doesnt work anymore,or atleast not as good. It freezes and when i turn it it off i get the 3 beeps again...idk if its just my PS3 or the firmware.
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flambeau - 518 days 23 hours ago
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"So you send/receive a lot of message but you have to delete them one by one. It would be nice to select all and delete." We can do that already.
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themyk - 518 days 23 hours ago
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we all can do it. just not this guy. i mean what a moron.
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flambeau - 518 days 22 hours ago
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Either that or he just got a PS3.
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jlytle1234 - 518 days 23 hours ago
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I just want a web browser with up to date flash and smaller more transparent alerts for friends and messages.
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bigcheda - 518 days 21 hours ago
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now this is something that actually makes sense
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FPS nut - 518 days 23 hours ago
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Sony loses so much money on all this, by trying to keep it free. Everything they add just comes out of thier pocket, they wan't somthing to equal Live so bad they are willing to pay out the a$$ to get it. It does work, to a point but with each new update they are still a step behind. What they need to do is stop with the updates for about 6 months and come out with one big bang.
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DJ - 518 days 23 hours ago
6.1 - Well not everything needs to be done for immediate profit.
These firmware updates add a lot of value to the hardware, as well as the software that runs on it. Can you charge your users for firmware updates? No. These were features that we were demanding for over a year, and it's in Sony's best interests to keep their userbase appreciative.

"with each new update they are still a step behind"
-I'm a bit confused by this statement though. It's arrogant to believe that the 360's firmware is superior to the PS3's, or vice versa. What matters is that we're getting the features that we want.-
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FPS nut - 518 days 23 hours ago
6.2 - They are one step behind
MS has a universal friends list, later Sony adds one.
MS has in game messaging, Sony adds one.
MS has video marketplace, Sony adds one.
MS has achievements, Sony adds tropies.
MS has in game guide, Sony adds in game XMB
360 owners have in game voice chat, PS3 owners wan't it.
360 owners have custom soundtracks, PS3 owners wan't it

I wan't these things on my PS3 to, but lets face it, it's the $50 a year people pay for Live that pays for the features first. Nothing I have said isn't untrue, there is only so much money Sony will be willing to lose before they start charging somehow. It may be through advertising, higher price for DLC or video content or charging for demos. The servers they run are also expensive, when Resistance 2 comes out (day 1 for me) where do you think they are going to get the servers from? thats right from Resistance. Everyone that works on adding these features from designers, coders, advertising, sound, mo-cap, server maintenance, testers even the janitors need to get paid. All that is being paid out of Sony's pocket, thats some of the contributors of why the PS3 loses money, it's not just the high price of the PS3.

IMO... (this part you can rip me apart for) Sony needs to start charging a fee, I know many hate hearing that, but if PS3 owners wan't the latest features before everyone else then thats what has to happen. Maybe Sony should charge $30 a year, which would force MS to lower it's fee.
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jlytle1234 - 518 days 22 hours ago
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it is want. not wan't.
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Real Gambler - 518 days 22 hours ago
6.4 - You may think they should charge a fee....
But for many people including myself, we see "free" as a huge bonus. It's one extra free game every year. Or simply,I already saved $100 on my PS3 in online fee since I bought it, so basically, it costed me the same price as if I would have bought a 360 then, yet, I got the extra bluray.

As far as copying others, I remember when the biggest argument 360 fans had was: "The 360 is a gaming machine and that's it". Over the years, I saw the 360 becoming an entertainment hub. At E3, that was the big buzz for the 360 (casual even copying Miis!, and entertainment). Everybody is copying everybody else. It's simple business. You could say that Microsoft was really late with the Miis no?

But trust me, last thing I want for the PS3 is copying live as far as cost! I really plan to use this console for at least 6 to 8 years, so that's $400 in my pocket. It's $400 for my next console!
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FPS nut - 518 days 22 hours ago
6.5 - jlytle1234
Thank you, my grammer and punctuation is bad, not my best class. Will remember the tip, and BTW thanks for not being a d!ck about it.
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DJ - 518 days 21 hours ago
6.6 - But you see, all the items you listed
Were already on the 360 a year before the PS3 even launched, so Sony would have inherently been behind anyway. There's features that the 360 lacks that the PS3 has, for example:
-6 way video chat rooms
-Printer functionality
-Deep Color output
-24FPS video conversion
-Trophy System
-Support for 7 wireless devices.
-Native divx support.
-Upscaling and video cleanup of all video files.

As you can see, it goes both ways. I can't imagine the PS3 without background downloading, for instance. If Sony hadn't put that feature in, the haters would have criticized them for not having background downloading. But once they put background downloading in, the haters switched over to "Well ____ console had it first."

It's not a Me First contest.
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devilhunterx - 518 days 5 hours ago
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Software updates are free, Hardware updates arent. e.g. HDMI
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911 Gaming - 518 days 23 hours ago
7 - MUSIC
I just want to listen to music in-game. NO MATTER WHAT. Almost every game has the feature to turn off its own soundtrack of music in-game. Sony, I thought you wanted the PS3 to be a Media Center/ Gaming Console. Where is the inbetween? Xbox 360 certainly can. I want my custom soundtrack!
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Armyless - 518 days 22 hours ago
7.1 - Can someone please help me understand
why you wouldn't just wear your Ipod or play a stereo instead? Why is it absolutely critical that the music must come from the PS3?

I don't know about you but I hear my music CONSTANTLY (driving, biking, at the gym, working, etc) maybe it's just me but I don't really need to hear my music playing a video game. I like the fact that games come with great soundtracks to explore.
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FantasyStar - 518 days 22 hours ago
7.2 - It's uncanny.
I understand your argument but people just want to listen to music in-game rather than find a makeshift method. I prefer in-game music support because it eliminates the hassle of using my MP3 Player everytime I play MGS4 when the PS3 is perfectly capable of doing it.
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unbiased - 518 days 23 hours ago
8 - going to far?
how about in game bluray movies, voice chat, web browsing, in game PS2, in game popcorn maker, in game PS3 GRILL!

I would rather them tweek the speed of the inter browser and add more codec support.
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Scar 360WA - 518 days 23 hours ago
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Cross game voice chat and voice messaging. Add those two things and I will never say a bad thing about psn again.
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DJ - 518 days 23 hours ago
10 - I just want cross-game voice chat
And possibly cross-game video chat (as long as the video feed is unobtrusive).
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Gitaroo - 518 days 23 hours ago
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it needs

-custome music player in every game, I dont care if I have to mute the bgm audio in the game myself.

-in game xmb with full voice chat support.

Those are the the two features they have to have or it will be another crappy update.
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KnaveX - 518 days 23 hours ago
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music in all games
cross game voice chat and voice messages

thats all for now

maybe video chat cross game later :D
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heroman711 - 518 days 23 hours ago
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i just wanna be able to chat with my friend while im on mgs4 and he is on idk, w/e the fuk he is playing
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