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Kojima: "PS3 is a monster machine"

In a recent interview with the BBC's Click program, Hideo Kojima, creator of the acclaimed Metal Gear franchise, has revealed that the first few years of development on MGS4 were "trial and error".

"We started to work on Metal Gear Solid 4 four years ago, after finishing Metal Gear Solid 3," said Kojima-san. "At that time we really didn't know what the PS3 was going to be like, so the first two years was all about experimenting, developing and trial and error."

"In the last two years, we've known what the PS3 is capable of, the specifications of it and how we can utilise it," he continued. "PS3 is a monster machine. That's why it took so much time to create Metal Gear Solid 4."
Jack007 - contributor
Published: 522 days 14 hours ago | News | PlayStation 3
 
 

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Solid_Dawg - 522 days 14 hours ago
1 - God Damn It...
im sick of hearing its coming to the 360. it can never happen. i dont even want to get into specs and invite flamebait...even though the 360 cant handle the game...especially act 3...did i say something...? so ill just say that the game has apple and sony logos and some voices are owned by sony. so it will never come out on the 360.
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Shadow Flare - 522 days 14 hours ago
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Kojima never wanted it on Xbox 360. It won't come to xbox 360. I think thats why they spead heaps of Apple and Sony products throughout the game, because those companies have a contract with Konami to use those products in their game. And i somehow don't think MS will like Apple products and ps3's lounging about the levels. Let alone the 360 cannot even handle this game and Jack Tretton once again said MGS4 IS exclusive for the ps3 this E3 after the FF13 announcement. Anyway.........

When i look at games early in the ps3's life cycle like Gran Turismo 5: Prologue (another game 360 cannot do) then i just wonder what games will look like in years to come. Killzone 2 surpassed its trailer. Apparently God of War 3 looks practically as good as its trailer. The BBC reporter had to pick his jaw up off the ground after watching that 'mystery game'. Exciting times await. It's a good time to be a ps3 owner
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Tarasque - 522 days 11 hours ago
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In all honesty here, i think MGS4 is just average. There is alot of average game's on the 360 it doens't need another one. Kojima need's to stop with the flip flopping also, is he Bi-Polar?
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ucantbanme - 522 days 9 hours ago
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I find it sad that Ps3 fanboys are still using the terms the xbox 360 can handle X game.

First it was Motorstorm and then it luanched with 6 tracks : (
Then it was DMC and then you got punched in the mouth by the multiplat monster'
Then it was FF13 and then you got punched in the mouth by the multi plat monster''
Now the latest bastillion of hope is MGS4.

Face it both consoles are almost equal. any game the ps3 can do, the 360 can do. Face it. FF13 used to be the biggest defense of the graphicall power of the ps3 over the 360 and now it's multiplat. stop saying a game can't be done by system A. It makes you look stupid when it's ported.

The reasons why MGS4 won't come to 360 has nothing to do with the technical aspects of the game, it has everything to do with the funding sony has indirectly provided to Kojima( under the table or not). Rest assure, that this game is a PS3 exclusive and that Uncharted cannot be done on 360( lol).
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Bonsai1214 - 522 days 9 hours ago
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its pretty much one of the only next gen games that LOOK ridiculous and run at an above standard HD resolution. i do not doubt the talent of Kojima and his team. I just gotta beg them for ZOE3 now..
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The Mikester - 522 days 9 hours ago
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Of course it's not coming out on the 360 b/c Metal Gear Solid 4 is a PS3 game and will always be a PS3 game. The 360 can't have the game so thats that.
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KLEPTOMANIAC - 522 days 9 hours ago
1.6 - i feel this quote in the article sums up the idea of MGS4 for 360 nicely
"Since we're developing only for the Sony format, of course Sony has given us a lot of advantage before the actual release of the hardware"

only for sony huh? sorry xbox fans maybe next time
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GRRiMREEAPeR - 522 days 8 hours ago
1.7 - Hes Right! it is a MONSTER
Its SCARY how few games are available on it!
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DeadIIIRed - 522 days 8 hours ago
1.8 - @1.3
So because Dead Rising is coming to the Wii, does that mean that both the 360 and Wii are equal? Just because you're getting FFXIII (not versus) doesn't mean the machines are equal.
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ucantbanme - 522 days 8 hours ago
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DeadIIIRed -
The Wii version of Dead Rising is not a port. It's a totally different game with Wii graphics and less zombies. It will not look like the 360 version. It's a different game and it's not a multiplat game.

Now if you are trying to say that the 360 version will be a scalled down version of the ps3 version, I will like to laugh in your face. It's a multi plat game and honestly of all the multiplat games so far the 360 has the edge. There are a few exceptions but the difference between the two are not noticable really. The fact remains that MGS is do able on the 360. You may not like it but it's a fact.
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FPS nut - 522 days 8 hours ago
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I'm sure the other side are tired of hearing Halo 4, Mass Effect 2, Bungie's next projects, Left 4 Dead and Gears of War going to the PS3. Get over it or don't click on the link if your "tired if hearing it"... oh and the reason you won't "go into specs" because you don't know any or you will just copy and paste some others forum post.

Console fanboys are so annoying when they get emotional.
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thePatriot - 522 days 8 hours ago
1.11 - its true, a real monster
it killed my father and raped my mother :)
(sorry, I like dark humor)
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IdleLeeSiuLung - 522 days 7 hours ago
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What stood out to me, is I didn't realize that Kojima had spent 4 years on the game. Two of those years expirementing and preparing for the machine. That is crazy!

To all you fanboys, it took 4 years to create as someone would say "HD" game. I would rather have a slightly sub HD game and get one every two years!

Also, what is up with the mess of frequent installation between levels? MGS4 is a great game, but an odd for sure.

With the success the MGS4 has, the cost of development probably negated it and made the profit margin average. A game like MGS4 should have raked in a lot of cash for Konami.
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GarandShooter - 522 days 3 hours ago
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Do you believe this crap? The article is about Kojima's respect for the hardware, and of course, the author has to end it with following paragraph:

"Metal Gear Solid 4 is currently a PlayStation 3 exclusive, but the recent announcement that Final Fantasy XIII is coming to the Xbox 360 has ignited rumours that it won't be long until MGS4 is also available for the PS3's rival platform."

Doesn't have a damn thing to do with the body of the article, just some flamebait this jackoff decided to write to generate hits.

And what are most people speaking about...?
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TheDeadMetalhead - 522 days 2 hours ago
1.15 - Dude.
It will come to WII before it comes to 360!

I joke, I joke. XD
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rexor0717 - 521 days 21 hours ago
1.16 - 2 years from now
We will know what can and cannot be done on each system. If GeoW2 can't be beat on the 360 in the next 2 years, we will see. If Uncharted 2 comes along and blows it out of the water, we will know.
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mattnz - 521 days 16 hours ago
1.17 - ok, here we go.
@ Tarasque - this game is above average, come on!
@ucan'tblameme - Graphics will always be comparable within a generation, 360 had it at first, lately it's been PS3, it's up for grabs now, from the upcoming games it looks like on screen action will be a bigger differentiator.
@idleleesiulung - So spending time making a game is bad?
@grrimreeaper - you suck (I can't think of anything else to say to that)

Come on people we can talk about a game/console without falling into these old traps.
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SoulessSnake - 517 days 3 hours ago
1.18 - your correct
the 360 cant handle it, thats that.
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KobeT24 - 522 days 14 hours ago
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In other words, the PS3 is BEAST!
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The Mikester - 522 days 9 hours ago
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In other words THE PS3 IS BEAST AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE BEAST.
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JEDI WOLVERINE - 522 days 14 hours ago
3 - Hmmmmmmmmmmm
The PS3 is rather powerful what with its chip set up and all.......massive potential for the future.

As regards MGS4 - nice but overhyped and overrated thus not to bothered if it came to the 360 or not.
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Shadow Flare - 522 days 14 hours ago
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Tell that to all the 360 fans who are convinced it will still come to the 360. And all those articles that 'confirmed' MGS4 for the 360. A little begging going on right there. MGS4 is for ps3. If you want the game, buy a ps3.
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tweaker - 522 days 13 hours ago
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If MGS4 is considered overhyped and overrated, what would one call GTAIV?
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spandexxking - 522 days 13 hours ago
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what about halo3? way overhyped but the best 360 game to date imo
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Cellypower - 522 days 12 hours ago
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all I can say MGS4 was worth the 60 dollars.
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Bubble Buddy - 522 days 9 hours ago
3.5 -
I don't see any pop cans with Snake on them...
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ThatArtGuy - 522 days 7 hours ago
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And I don't see any cell phones with Master Chief on them.
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Figboy - 522 days 5 hours ago
3.7 - cell phones
actually played a role in MGS4 (characters realistically used them to communicate).

did Mountain Dew play a role in Halo 3's campaign mode?

was the Master Chief chugging the Dew before going on a mission?

i don't think so.

actually, Mountain Dew probably would have been some good product placement in MGS4, since Drebin and his monkey are addicted to soda.
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mquirozz - 522 days 4 hours ago
3.8 - Bubble Buddy
Thats the thing, Halo 3 needed to be marketed like that because Halo 2 didn't break any ground so people figured Halo 3 would be a half-assed game too. Then look at Metal Gear's marketing(hardly any). It has LOYAL fans not a bunch of casual playing drones. Besides MGS4 speaks for itself. Halo 3 needed others the sing their song for people to pay attention to it(failed).
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Wolf873 - 522 days 2 hours ago
3.9 - @ 3
Just as your over-rated Halo series, which is no different than any shooter that I have played in all honesty.
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StephanieBBB - 522 days 14 hours ago
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MGS4 may come to the xbox720 if it has blueray ofcourse... but by then all the PS3 owners will enjoy mgs5 so whats the point?

@Jedi wolverine
The game is a masterpiece and the best game i've ever played. It was very overhyped but not overrated but everyone is incline to having his own oppinion and thus I can't speak for you.
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bumnut - 522 days 13 hours ago
4.1 - it was ok
not the best game i have played, it was let down by frequently loading the next scene.

the game did not seem to flow like uncharted does.

i loved the style of the motorcycle chase but again it was let down by frequent loading screens.

can someone explain why bluray is so good even though it is clearly not fast enough to run mgs4 from disc?
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Kaneda - 522 days 7 hours ago
4.2 - bumnut
I think it was the best game I had play for a long time. Act3 made me duck when the car flew on top of you. I don't think any other games did that where my body react while playing...
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SoulessSnake - 517 days 3 hours ago
4.3 - I agree
Steph right on i couldnt have said it better myself
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THUNDERMARE - 522 days 14 hours ago
5 - I curious
What will the dialog say when the "Swapping to 2nd Disc" appear.... since its obvious that Kojima is poking fun of the older DVD tech....
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Shadow Flare - 522 days 14 hours ago
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That was actually in reference to swapping to disc 2 on MGS1 on ps1, if you look at when/where Otacon says that. I'd imagine if the game were on 360, they would just have to change the dialog to, "Snake, it's time to put in disc 5". It won't happen though lol
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bumnut - 522 days 13 hours ago
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id rather swap discs in 15 seconds than wait a few minutes to install the next chapter.
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Shadow Flare - 522 days 13 hours ago
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bumnut, in my life i have had to buy Final Fantasy VII 3 times because i have lost the 2nd and third discs and the first was majorly scratched. I have had to buy Gran Turismo 1 twice because i lost the disc. I have lost about 5 albums because i have lost the disc and alot of my demo discs are unplayable because they are too scratched.

I would rather take 2 minutes to install each chapter (each chapter took me like 2.5 hours play time the first time i played) then having to get up and change a disc, and risk losing one of the 6 dvd's that MGS4 on the 360 would need, therefore meaning i can't complete the game. I actually hate installs myself, but i only hate the installs which take half an hour. 2 minutes, for each chapter. Plus bluray is scratch proof. I am so glad FFXIII on ps3 will be on 1 disc. PS3 is just, a better built machine, end of.
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bumnut - 522 days 13 hours ago
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i suggest you are more carefull with your optical media in the future

as for ps3 been better built... i agree 100% and am on 360 number 3.

but that is off topic
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spandexxking - 522 days 13 hours ago
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pwned!
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three304 - 522 days 9 hours ago
5.7 - agreed
also the meaning (it can't be done on 360)
I think it can be done, if the 360 fans are ok with last gen, not hd.
it won't look as GOOD and play as GOOD
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Charmers - 522 days 14 hours ago
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Hm he thinks a machine is a "beast" because it can render his game at 1024 x 768 with 2 x AA. He better avoid the PC's then because it would blow his mind even a midrange PC can render games better than that. I haven't used such a low resolution in 5 years on my PC.

Once again we get an inaccurate picture from a stooge that gets most of it's money from Sony. Yeah he is gonna be a totally unbiased opinion on the "power" of the playstation isn't he boys and girls.
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Kantraz - 522 days 14 hours ago
6.1 - PC is not a Console!
You can't compare a PC with a console, when will people learn?

Kojima is saying, that PS3 is a Monster Console...
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CrazzyMan - 522 days 14 hours ago
6.2 - 768p is BETTER then 720p(1024x768 is BETTER then 1280x720), Kojima is a Genius
and horizontal resolution is MUCH MORE important, then vertical.

But, you are noob, and probably don`t know that, bad for you.))

To run MGS4 on pc, you would need something like 8 core intel processor and GF9800GTX, since the game was optimized for PS3, and on mid range pc it would just go below 10 fps.
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Charmers - 522 days 14 hours ago
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LOL I love the disagree's already. Which fact do you guys disagree with ? The fact that it uses a low resoluton of 1024 x 768 or the fact that PC gamers ditched such a low resolution years ago ?

As for not comparing a PC with a console, I dunno you have a chat with your PS3 buddies and tell them to stop comparing the PS3 to the PC all the time. I do see an odd pattern though, they only compare the PS3 to the PC when it is "favourable" to the PS3, hm strange that.

Look Kojima is a paid stooge to put this into perspective he is the PS3 version of CliffyB. You probably won't like me saying that but it is the truth. Sony is paying his wages so of course he is going to say "blah blah PS3 blah blah wonderful blah blah and Monster" when in reality it is anything but wonderful and monsterous.

@6.2 - Yeah I must be a noob I have only been at this for 25 years. I think you are the noob if you believe a PC would need 8 cores and a 9800gtx to run MGS4 on the PC. If the game needed those specifications the PS3 wouldn't be able to play it you idiot. The GPU in a PS3 is barely a 7800gtx yet you claim it can outclass a card like the 9800gtx, please get an education will you.
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tweaker - 522 days 14 hours ago
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I'd like to see a computer rated at 3.2 ghz with a total memory of 512mb produce a game as beautiful as MGS4 or any other PS3 exclusive. What about a brand new $400 PC vs a $400 PS3?

Well enough about comparisons, of course a PC built with gaming in mind surpasses graphics seen on consoles but this is not about PC's. PC gaming will and always be above console gaming in terms of graphics. Too bad all the good games with good gameplay are first seen on consoles or exclusive on the platform. If that wasn't the case I'd get serious with PC gaming all over again.
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Charmers - 522 days 13 hours ago
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Yeah and of course the PC can't use blu-ray can it .......... Oh wait yes it can. All we need to do is shove a cheap blu-ray drive in there if we want. We could even install the whole game to the PC if we were bothered, 50gbs wouldn't even make a dent in my 1TB hard disc.

To be honest I don't actually care for MGS I always found the games boring myself. However I cannot stand typical rubbish propoganda like this. It is quite clear that Kojima is about as unbiased as CliffyB. Now PS3 owners are quick to attack CliffyB the minute he says something (I think he is a moron too), yet the minute Kojima opens his gob apparently he is being totally truthful. The guy gets his money from Sony, USE your brains of course he is going to talk glowingly about the console.
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