Nintendo, Microsoft stumble while Sony cruises

StephanieBBB - 533 days 7 hours ago

Die is alittle bit overstated but I would frase it more like "get your lazy ass together before it's too late" Nintendo is spending too little money compared to making so much imo.

@ucantbanme
I admit that MS had a good conference but you like many others need to see thru the bullshit that they spew out. MS are fighting a loosing battle and does whatever it takes to sabotage for thier opponents, FFXIII announcement for 360 say anything about this?

Imo Sony had the best montage overall even though they focused more on the core gamers, thier exclusives look much more fun and massive than the 360's. Just look at the beginning of Sony and Microsofts conference. It's clear that Sony is the winner just by doing that.

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thebudgetgamer - 533 days 3 hours ago

but what happens in the next round without their loyal hardcore fanbase that they continually throw under the bus these days

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pixelsword - 530 days 17 hours ago

Not a "lead console" like the 360 or PS3... I think that's it's popularity; when you have parties, you pull out the Wii; when you want to seriously game, you pull out the PS3 or 360... not that it's a bad thing.

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ucantbanme - 533 days 8 hours ago

Thats because you are a Sony fan. Different people see different things out of each conference.

I still think that MS conference was the best of the three. Everyone should know that MS does not show games for the following year off at E3. It's the same arguments people used against them for 2007 and they ended up having a great year of games. Then it's the argument that was made for 2008 and 2008 is going to have an awesome line up of games. If you tune into the MS conference for 2009 games you will always be disappointed.

I rather focus on
Netflix streaming... Huge
Additional movie contracts and tv shows... medium announcemnt
Updated to the dash....huge( never done before in a console)
2008 games.....medium

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crazy25000 - 533 days 8 hours ago

you could already strem netflix for free, but MS is just making money off of those who didnt know that

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KingME - 533 days 7 hours ago

I completely agree with you. But it doesn't surprise that this article was written. Give it a week, and the "PS3 skimmed, 360 slid, Wii overwhelmed" article will be out claim an E3 victory for the wii.

It's just a matter of prospective with it tad bit of fanboyism mixed in.

@2.3 (crazy25000 -) please explain how this can be done by the massed, how does my 14 yr old sister or my grandpa stream movies for free. Besides, I didn't know netflix movie streaming was free, even to a PC. I thought the priced began at 4.99. But, perhaps you know something that I didn't know. And for people with gold memberships, nothing is going to change anyway. So, please explain it to the mass, if you actually know how to do it yourself, and are not just repeating what you have heard.

Thanks in advance.

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crazy25000 - 533 days 7 hours ago

we have all 3 consoles here and you can stream Netflix using WMP, the quality is awesome

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jtucker78 - 533 days 6 hours ago

ucantbanme - You are right that "Different people see different things out of each conference."

But based purely on GAMES (as in the reason we are here, N4G anyone?), what was shown at E3 and completely disregarding any other games that are in the pipeline for the various companies. I.e. the ones that weren't shown at E3.

Best for the casual audience and members of the public is between Nintendo and Microsoft. Wii Music, Animal Crossing (sorry Reggie I guess that is actually hardcore), Lips and some multiplatform games etc.

Best for sensationalism - Oooh we get FF too = Microsoft.
If E3 is all about sensational story's for you then I guess Microsoft wins it for you.

...BUT, If you're a gamer, then Sony wins hands down.

Nintendo comes last - The closest they came to gaming was Miyamoto saying that a new Zelda is in the works BUT one that will also be accessible to casual players (don't like the sound of that!)

Microsoft - showed no new gamer-games (sorry, Lips doesn't count). Although I will admit that Gears2 (already announced) is looking pretty sweet. I'm looking forward to that one.

Sony won on Gamer Games, undisputedly. There is no argument.

Now Microsoft may have more and better games in the pipeline - none of us know do we? BUT as far as E3 went we didn't see any of them and Sony showed us more.
Perhaps Microsoft will win Leipzig with a better showing of games than Sony, we'll have to wait and see, right?
...but for all us "Gamers" (News4Gamers) we know that E3 was Sony's.

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Dareaver1 - 533 days 6 hours ago

well, why don't you tell me how someone without a windows based pc is going to stream it on 360, or even a person without windows media extender.

better yet, someone without a pc....

please inform me.....

Edit:@JTucker....

you say real gamers think Sony won, then Wouldn't "Real Gamers" appreciate that FF13 is coming to MS. Saying it's "ooh me too" just shows your clear and obvious bias. I guarantee you that Sony gamers are happy that Bioshock is coming to PS3. I have the game, it's awesome and a game that should be played by any mature "Real Gamer". FF13 looks like it's going to be awesome. "Real Gamers" can appreciate the fact that the game is going to be experienced by more "Gamers".

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funkysolo - 533 days 6 hours ago

So is the 360 a gaming machine or a movie machine? Isn't that what you 360 fans said about bluray? And about games in 08, RE5 and FF13 are not coming til 09 and 2010. So what great lineup did you see of exclusive content for gamers not movie goers? M$ conference was mostly about multiplatform because they don't have anything exclusive besides gears2 to talk about....I guess the 360 now is the movie goer machine, how funny

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jtucker78 - 533 days 6 hours ago

I'm just as happy to say "Ooh me too" about Bioshock for the PS3.
...BUT that isn't my point.

Yes, I agree that FF coming to Microsoft is great news for 360 owners and I think it's great that both systems can enjoy the game.

My contention is that the actual "poaching" of FF was the big news rather than: great we can all enjoy a great game.
It was all the fanboys stirring themselves into a frenzy that made the FF news so fantastic.

I'm quite happy for 360 and PS3 to share games as long as neither console has to take a bad port.

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Monchichi025 - 533 days 5 hours ago

News to Me! Every other analyst and internet poll on the web says MS did a better job. But if THIS guy says it, it MUST be true...

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ucantbanme - 533 days 4 hours ago

jtucker78 -
I understand your reasoning but honestly, almost everything shown for Sony is playing catch up.

Honestly, the Heavy hitters Ms promised this year are coming out(Sans Halo Wars).

In Jan i tried to tell people it's a multi plat year, while everyone was screaming it's Sony's year of Killer apps. For the reminder of 2008 Sony has LBP and Resistance 2. I think the combo of GOW, Too human and Fable is too much for those two properties to claim victory.
E3 is about wrapping up 2008 for MS.

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Leathersoup - 533 days 8 hours ago

you mean one that validates your delusions? ;)

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crazy25000 - 533 days 8 hours ago

they said that because most ppl wanted new announcements, im guessing though

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funkysolo - 533 days 6 hours ago

In your lineup there is only one AAA title and that's gears2, everything else is just quanity. Sony is about quality, resistance2,Lbp, motorstorm, infamous,Kz2, fat princess, locoroco2, patapon2 are all AAA titles...I like sony because it's about quality not quanity...You can't compare exclusive content between SONY and M$ because Sony has 10 times the studios M$ has. M$ studio suck and can't release a good game? Gears3 is going to the PS3

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Dareaver1 - 533 days 4 hours ago

well first off, he said games that will be coming out this year, duh? Exactly how many did you list that will come out this year?

Next, Sony known for quality vs quantity. What world do you live in. Until the PS3, all Sony was known for was Quantity. You are either oblivious to reality or new to gaming. That is not necessarily a bad thing, the PS2 and PS1 had a whole lot of garbage games, and then it had it's diamonds in the rough. Please stop with your inaccurate praises....

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Grown Folks Talk - 533 days 7 hours ago

Jak & Daxter, Ratchet & Clank, Kingdom Hearts, Katamari, & PaRappa the Rappa though huh?

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va_bank - 533 days 7 hours ago

Except I don't think Nintendo is focusing on the core gamer at all. "Casual Gamer" is a fad and like all fads, will be dead overnight when the next craze comes along. It may not be tomorrow, it may not be a year from now, but it will happen.

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MIAMIFROST - 533 days 7 hours ago

Thats what MS is doing by creating those little kiddie avatars. I mean how many hardcore gamers want to represented like a Nintendo Wii character. MS is so busy copying everybody they might end up forgetting what got them here in the first place, which was MARKET THE HARDCORE GAMERS FIRST !! ..Now that they got'em , they dont care as much about them and are trying to focus on "family fun", which is good and all for business, but DONT LOSE FOCUS! The Harcore is what made you number one. Sony is catching up pretty quickly. The 360 days are numbered.

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Xiru - 533 days 7 hours ago

Diversifying your portfolio is great, and MS should do just that. But when people speak of broadening the games on the 360, I doubt they mean with Movie Maker games and Singstar clones. I want more RPGS, more fighters, more strategy games, etc... Making Avatars and redesigning the dashboard are not things that I want out of my 360. They seem to be moves targetted specifically at the casual gamer. It just feels like MS has seen the exceptional sales of the Wii and want a piece of that market. I mean who can blame them, it is easy money. MS has been doing great. Sales are great everywhere except Japan, and there is little they can do about that. They don't need to split their fanbase right now. Nintendo promised that they wouldn't abandon the hardcore when the Wii launched, and it looks as they have done just that.

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Grown Folks Talk - 533 days 7 hours ago

they would be going backwards. Could be more fighters, but again, how many have there been in general this generation so far? Technically they have more of those too because DOA is out & Tekken isn't. The rest are multi-plat. You've got Sid Miers, Command & Conquer, LOtR, with End War & Halo Wars coming. Their biggest current hole i'd say is platformers. They have basically every corner covered in some way. People just still don't want to admit it. ///On a side note, I appreciate the fact that you can actually state your differing opinion without being an @ss like so many others. + feedback ensues.

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Steven Colbert - 533 days 8 hours ago

*takes out flamethrower*

Burn Nintendo!Muahahahahahaha!

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juuken - 533 days 8 hours ago

Lol @ Colbert.

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Sir_Ken_Kutaragi - 533 days 7 hours ago

*throws on flame suit* Why??? Did you buy a xBox 360!!! ;-D

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juuken - 533 days 7 hours ago

C'mon Ken...you know what's going to happen when the 360 fanbabies wake up from their slumber.

EDIT: True, true MAiKU.

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MAiKU - 533 days 7 hours ago

when they wake up?

I think they'll wake up to another new xbox(insert number combo here) and lose support for their 360's.

but they'll buy the new system anyway.

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Sir_Ken_Kutaragi - 533 days 7 hours ago

They are like RATS in the sewers!!! ;-D When they smell Bad PS3 News they follow King RAT(You know who he is)up to surface, and come on this!!! ;-D

@MAiKU ;)
Yeah it will be called xBox 4(something) Because they want to fool the public that it's their 4th Console i.e because PS4 will be called erm PS4!!! ;-D Like xBox 360 sounds like their 3rd Console because of the '3' in it, so it sounds like the PS'3'...The xBox 360 still failed!!! ;-D

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Shroomy - 533 days 8 hours ago

Tssh*

Real gamers? only on PS3?

lol!

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Lord2008 - 533 days 7 hours ago

"ps3 innovates"

Innovates what exactly
Online – PC/ Dreamcast
Rumble – Nintendo
Dpad – Nintendo
Analog – Nintendo
Achievements – Microsoft
In game music – Microsoft

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Mr Fancy Pants - 533 days 6 hours ago

PS1:
first console to have two analogs to play better your precious FPS's
first console that did real 3-D not like the sega Saturn
PS2:
first console to have DVD as the storage media and that could play DVD movies

free online on top of all that counts?

innovative?
LittlelBigPlanet and Singstar are good examples don't you think?

So good examples that MS it's now making a game called LIPS that it's exactly the same sh1t as Singstar.... just wait until MS copy LittleBigPlanet too. LOL

PS3>X360

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