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Gamervision Hands-On Killzone 2

Gamervision:

''Yes, Killzone 2 is beautiful, that shouldn't be shocking at this point. Even in its "pre-alpha" state, which is unfinished, glitchy, and has plenty of graphical issues, the game has the best visuals this console generation. When compared to games like Far Cry 2 and Crysis, Killzone 2 stands tall and has amazingly high-resolution textures and character models.

Gameplay is another story. Killzone 2 doesn't feel bad, exactly, but it also doesn't play much better than the original. The controller has a strange layout which feels off, and while the game looks like it should be amazing, shortcomings in pacing and gameplay prevent it from being anything but mediocre.''
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Published: 522 days 14 hours ago | Preview | E3 2008 | PlayStation 3
 
 

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PooPooPlatter - 522 days 15 hours ago
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Hilarious! Another teenage Xbox fan's blog with the standard "yeah KZ2 looks amazing, but what about teh gameplay' talking points.

This game must absolutely terrify them.
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Kyur4ThePain - 522 days 13 hours ago
1.2 - Really?
And your original name just happened to be "Nasim Detective"? Talk about multiple accounts.

As wrong as he sometimes is, at the very least he's on topic this time.
Something you couldn't say, now could you?

On Topic:
The truth of the matter is you (maybe) froze a playable "piece" of a game. We're not even really sure what stage of development that was from.
Oh, and why is there not a single video cut from before the freeze? Just wondering...
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decapitator - 522 days 13 hours ago
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Another Hey look, "Isn't my blog teh awesome !1!!!!1" site. I think people(haters) are just scared that, their worse fears are coming true and that is, Killzone 2 becoming a really good game whiles retaining its beauty through out.

Ahh, whatever Fanboys will be fanboys.

EDIT: The sites names is gamervision ??? Orly ? More like fanboyvision.
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xJxdOggyStYLe - 522 days 12 hours ago
1.4 - hmmm
great we got another "haze" and "lair" on our hands
hyped to death by sony fan fellas....and...well...as always a big let down..BUT BUT its still way to early to tell if this is goin to be great or a let down..so we should just leave this alone until its closer launch time..will there be anything other then mgs4 thats good on ps3...ugg...little big planet i hope u come through
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C_SoL - 522 days 12 hours ago
1.5 - Haters everywhere..............
Let em hate......We PS3 owners know what to expect.....

One of the greatest FPS's of all time.

http://www.gamespot.com/vid...
1.6 Spydiggity | 522 days 11 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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CrazzyMan - 522 days 11 hours ago
1.7 - What can i say.. PUBLIC beta is Coming This year))
so, in next 5 months, people will be able by themselves to decide is gameplay great or not.) Well, atleast they will know, do they like multiplayer or not.))

And if people will like it, then KZ2 will sell 10 mln. on PS3, no matter what reviewers will say. =)
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sonarus - 522 days 11 hours ago
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Multiplayer will be awesome but everyone really seems to be hating on this game. Some will say level design is crappy but A.I. is good. Others will say A.I. is crappy but level design is good. Overall i really don't see anything wrong with the level design but the A.I. just seems too easy. I love a game with a challenge but its still only the first level so its too soon to judge. Worst case scenario the game will end up with a couple of 8's and 9's but it will certainly be better than the original
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Dino - 522 days 8 hours ago
1.9 - Looks amazing
I can't wait to get my hands on the final version.
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TheExecutive - 522 days 14 hours ago
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From what I understand of the controls, the shoot button is R1, L2 is the iron sights, to take cover is L1, the run button is L3, and the jump button is "x". (Can I get this confirmed? Sev?)

The control layout doesnt seem too "strange" to me? anyone else think thats a strange layout?
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PooPooPlatter - 522 days 14 hours ago
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Of course not. This is just another 21 year old Xbox fan trashing Killzone 2 in his blog.

Report this garbage and keep it off this site.
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Fishy Fingers - 522 days 14 hours ago
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I imagine most would prefer to have the fire and the iron sights as apposing triggers, ie, R1 & L1. Still this is why they have "controller configuration" in games.
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BulletToothtony - 522 days 13 hours ago
2.3 - yep that's true fishy
in Killzone1 you can custumize ALL of your buttons... i believe this has been confirmed as well in the Killzone forums...

you can change any buttons.. you can shoot with L3 if that makes you happy.... so the whole the controller feels weird well.. it's not an issue...

And i think we can all agree that every time we watch a killzone video the gameplay looks pretty good... if watching it looks good i don't know how playing it would be worse.

To me this is just another blogger with nothing else to do than try to trash a game that is not in his console of choice.. i mean even the sites that hate the ps3 are starting to change the way they preview games.. eventually the hate for the ps3 will stop.. it is inevitable.. and will completely stop when it hits around $ 250.
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mfwahwah - 522 days 11 hours ago
2.4 - Controls
Ooh, Iron sites with L2 and fire with R1, that sounds so crazy but I just picked up my controller to see how it would feel, and it's not all that bad. I can't wait to try that in-game to really know though :D.
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Meus Renaissance - 522 days 14 hours ago
3 - Dumb Previews Deserve to be Named & Shamed.
I welcome criticism but some of the words used, such as "mediocre" was over the top - your basically saying the game looks great but plays horribly beyond belief. I read the preview a few times and genuinely got the impression that whoever wrote this game was just looking for faults in it to hype about.

"But I’d like to think that an entire day’s worth of press and media missed out on recording footage of one of the PlayStation 3’s biggest games because I FROZE IT"

What's he trying to say, he kicked and dismissed the game because it wasn't good enough for his hands? Raw. Someone should tell him Gears of War 2 crashed on stage, but that doesn't matter. Why should it? It's in development yet this preview seems to mock the entire game because of how "mediocre" it is.
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NintendoWTF - 522 days 14 hours ago
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"your basically saying the game looks great but plays horribly beyond belief"

That is the standard Xbox fan Killzone 2 meme that gets posted every single day in every Killzone 2 thread.

I guess it is an attempt to say hey look if I say nice things about the graphics I can go right ahead an rip apart the game and I will still appear balanced.

I don't know why Xbox fans are so damn scared of this game that they feel the need to put so much effort into trying to trash it. It isn't going to stop anyone from enjoying or buying the game.
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silverchode - 522 days 13 hours ago
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nasism=kira
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Light Yagami - 522 days 13 hours ago
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Yes, Nasim is Kira...
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Jinxstar - 522 days 13 hours ago
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DAMN YOU NASIM!!!!

On topic this game looks good. Can't wait for full details.
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NintendoWTF - 522 days 13 hours ago
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It is a sickening blog posts from diehard Xbox fans scared out of their minds over Killzone 2 that makes you think of what an incredible console generation this would be if there were no 360 this gen.

You don't see Sony/Playstation fans writing blogs, getting jobs at review sites so they can rubbish Nintendo Wii games, you don't see Sony fans making fake sales sites like vgchartz to inflate PS3 sales and undercount Wii sales.

And you don't see Nintendo/Wii fans from doing likewise.

Sure PS3 fans make fun of waggle and the fact that the Wii is essentially another GameCube but they are perfectly happy with Wii owners playing their games and getting high review scores when deserved.

And Wii fans make fun of the high price of the PS3 and that you don't need all that power to have fun playing games. But they are likewise perfectly happy to let PS3 owners enjoy their games and feel no need to get jobs rubbishing PS3 games.
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Kruzitu - 522 days 13 hours ago
6 - lol
Wow, such a great blog, nice try, attach a 'YOUTUBE' video of a pre-alpha state demo of Killzone 2 crashing, too bad it wasn't the only game crashing.

and wtf is Gamervision, first time i've heard of it, its not a big site, so no worries.
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SUP3R - 522 days 13 hours ago
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I got a bunch of lulz from this story.

ZOMG!!! I KILLED ZILLZONE 2!!! RED SCREEN OF DEATH LULZ!!
Can you believe it?!
Who would have thought a pre-alpha build would have problems?!?!?
That's unacceptable!

/sarcasm

Then went onto say the gameplay is broken, but the game is visually amazing. lol

It's ok Gamervision, after IGN, GameSpot, 1UP, GamePro and others all gave great impressions of the game, your opinion just went 6ft under.
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Kruzitu - 522 days 13 hours ago
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not only 6 ft under, but inside of my toilet, where I will take a huge dump over it, and flush it. The End.
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mistertwoturbo - 522 days 13 hours ago
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after seeing this video http://www.gamespot.com/vid...

I seriously doubt gameplay is going to be an issue with Killzone 2.

What people fail to understand, is all the hate and criticisms of Killzone 1. Guerilla Games are taking every bit of it to the heart, and are adressing it to Killzone 2.

The only people who continue to hate on this game are not true gamers. And if you guys truely hate it that much, then avoid everything Killzone 2 related then. I don't see why some people bother to make a whole article about how much they hate something.

Instead, go make some useful articles of games you do like. Like Gears of War 2. Make another article about how Fable 2 could change the way we see RPGs. Make an article about how the next Zelda could blow our minds.

Enough with these "wahhhhhhhhh" articles please.

(BTW I'm referring to the media outlets when I say they are not true gamers)
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thor - 522 days 13 hours ago
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This site would probably say about that video, "yeah great graphics, good gameplay, but the AI is HORRIBLE". Then they would own themselves right there because it's multiplayer footage ;)
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Adropacrich2 - 522 days 11 hours ago
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It's surely a bit of a worry though when you need to be told what's not working in your games.

Killzone 1 wasn't as bad as people make out though apart from being rather shoddy - i enjoyed it

Fingers crossed for Killzone2 but it worries me when a developer needs to listen to it's fans in such a way as to bypass what as designers they should already have a sound grasp of

Many devs try to make the best FPS experience and many fail time after time - it's a hard thing to achieve and i'd say less than 5% of FPS are of any real worth

Certainly the graphics are beautiful though and i hope they pull it off
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jcfilth - 522 days 13 hours ago
9 - So....
He is bashing on a pre-alpha code demo? and that the game freezes(once again, pre-alpfa code demo)? do you relize how many retail games freeze??
btw..the game freezed, just start it again. When those 360s get RRODs on the show floor... well, you all know.

It's a pre-alpha code for gamers sake!! and it's already looking f@cking amazing!!!!

Report this ppl.
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thor - 522 days 13 hours ago
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I can see this game being another MGS4 - lots of sites give it 10/10s (and whilst I prefer some of the sneaking in MGS2, MGS series in general is miles above anything else, so 10/10 is deserved) and there are those sites which will say 8/10, "bit of a letdown", "mediocre", and other non-descript words which basically just means they are an xbox fanboy.
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NintendoWTF - 522 days 12 hours ago
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I think Eurogamer is the only site still going with full bore trashing of PS3 exclusives.

1Up has gotten better after the worlds most pathetic Xbox/Halo/Gears of War fan Dan Hsu was fired, but there are still quite a few hardcore Xbox fans there as it use to be a place to get hired away to Microsoft.

Gamespot has gotten much better after the hardcore Halo fan Gerstmann got fired.

If you are a Xbox fan at a gaming site your goal is to get your review trashing the game out early as possible so that it can establish a tone like they currently are with 'bad AI' or 'looks generic' stuff.

Sony and Guerilla just need to be careful that their marketing people make sure that the resident Halo fan at various sites isn't allowed to review/trash KZ2. Or at least not send out pre-release date review copies of sites like Eurogamer.
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poeo - 522 days 13 hours ago
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Guerilla Games has like what, 6 or 7 months to hone the gameplay? I think they'll manage to make an FPS game playable...
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mgbass13 - 522 days 12 hours ago
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Anyone with a strong affection for Microsoft is going to be highly skeptical of anything PS3 related, no matter how good it is. It works the other way too. Try not to get too mad about this nonsense, that is this person's goal. Last time I checked, gamervision had absolutley no cred whatsoever, so this is obviously a biased opinion. I think I'll trust the multitude of reputable sites that have been praising the game this past week, which, ironically (or not), are the same sites that have been kicking Sony around for the past couple years.
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Ninja-Sama - 522 days 12 hours ago
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Who is this noob?

"That’s right, I am the first person to beat Killzone 2. Eat it."

This guy can't be older than 12.
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RAM MAGNUMS - 522 days 12 hours ago
15 - don't wait
get yer ps3 & breathe free.
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xg-ei8ht - 522 days 12 hours ago
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360 man's mindset: If your names not gears your not coming in.
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TheHater - 522 days 12 hours ago
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This guy/girl claim to be the first person to complete Killzone 2. HHHHHMMMMMMMM.... The game isn't coming out till February of next year. How did you finish the game, when The developers themselves didn't even finish developing it.
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Close_Second - 522 days 12 hours ago
18 - KZ2...
...certainly looks fantastic however, until I read some actual reviews of the final build's gamplay then I will be holding off on making a purchase.

In all the videos I have seen of the single player campaign I have been blown away by the visuals but I (I repeat "I") have not been as impressed by the enemy AI or gameplay.

Look back at the gameplay and enemy AI of a game like (the original) Halo and I have not seen anything of KZ2 that looks better (or even as good). No, I'm not a fanboy but just a gamer who has realistic expectations.
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NintendoWTF - 522 days 12 hours ago
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Close_Second - 522 days 9 hours ago
18.2 - NintendoWTF...
...All you did was show that no game has perfect AI and I never said that Halo did. What I did say is that I have seen nothing from the KZ2 footage that makes me think that KZ2 AI is any more advanced than Halo's...and should'nt it be more advanced given that Halo 3 will be over a year old when KZ2 comes out???

Why not show some side by side Halo and KZ2 AI and see if KZ2 AI looks any more advanced. Tell you what, why not do the comparisson against Halo 2 (and not the glitchy AI but the AI when its actuallyworking as it should) and if the pre-alpha KZ2 AI looks better then you can say I told you so.

Final comment, if you were to base your opinion and subsequent purchase of a game based on the occassional glitch or two then you would probably own no games at all. You certainly wouldn't have owned the original KZ. I have yet to play an FPS where the AI convinces me that I'm playing an intelligent enemy.
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tako2000 - 522 days 11 hours ago
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It's "pre-Alpha"...not Beta, not even Alpha, it's "PRE-ALPHA"!!

Of course there will be problems and more works need to be done.
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sak500 - 522 days 9 hours ago
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They have been showing pre alpha since last 2 years what give? This year just 7months away and still alpha?
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Adropacrich2 - 522 days 10 hours ago
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Halo AI can indeed be a bit hilarious on easy level setting

Halo's AI is mostly convincing though on a harder setting and provides quite the challenge if you step up to it
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AcidHorse - 522 days 8 hours ago
21 - Get the f---k out of here
Its a pre-alpha demo, of coarse it will freeze. Gamervision better get thicker glasses, because they are make this a bigger deal then it really is. These professinal fanboys are just reaching at anything to hate the PS3. Now that 360 has nothing left, it just looks like a sad pathetic attempt.
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idontcare - 522 days 4 hours ago
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KZ2 looks really good but very very generic.

let's wait and see. if it plays like the 1st one .. damn, that would be really bad.
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achira - 521 days 23 hours ago
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lol. to me geow 2 looks very generic. and the a.i in geow 2 is non existant. and now ?
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The Kingslayer - 521 days 20 hours ago
23 - You know what
Everyone judges games at events like this blogger did. They have done it with so many games through out gaming history. It is not done! You are playing a game in pre alpha? WTF?

The other thing also is, the graphics granted are really good looking. Yet what kind of experience are we going to get with the game? What locales, vehicles, challenges, and enviornments are we going to get? That's what concerns me. I will not even compare Killzone 2 to Gears of War 2 as games, because they are in different categories. Gears has proved itself to be a stellar experience, and Killzone 2 has yet to prove that it holds weight as a good game. Especially after the first was horrible. As a FPS it has to compete against the likes of Call of Duty 4, which is the penicale of console FPS games. That's how high the bar is.

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