Killzone 2 Developer - "A.I Was Toned Down Quite A Lot"

HighDefinition - 535 days 20 hours ago

F**k off w/ all the hate.

GG is one there way to creating a masterpiece of a FPS, @ this point I personally think it looks and moves better than Crysis, I didn`t think that would actually happen.

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sonarus - 535 days 20 hours ago

Thank God. I was getting scared the game was looking mega easy. The multiplayer is looking crazy nice. My hype level for this game shot thru the roof after E3. Game heavily upstaged R2 for me

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The Wood - 535 days 20 hours ago

a) never been to any gaming trade event, played there and pwned, played the same game once released and GOT pwned

b) A hater

c) a little naive

People wouldn't like it if they kept getting their fudge packed every time plus it wouldn't make much of a spectacle as people would just give up and the later parts of the maps might not be shown to the onlookers.

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TheExecutive - 535 days 17 hours ago

A Sony rep said they were playing it on normal so...

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decapitator - 535 days 16 hours ago

Yeah...and the developer *working* on the game says it was toned them. Who are you going to believe ?

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n4gzz - 535 days 11 hours ago

i wish it was releasing for august!!!

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TheExecutive - 535 days 7 hours ago

I am not saying i dont believe mother hen because I do, i am just saying what a sony rep told people.

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The Lazy One - 535 days 11 hours ago

just for mentioning that the game might (MIGHT) not be the best game next year.

Killzone 2 won't be the best game next year for this simple reason. I heard another developer say that they're game would be the best game next year, and what developers say is always 100% truthful. AMIRITE?!

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Halochampian - 535 days 18 hours ago

I think it was kinda dumb to do that. Let players enjoy the graphics?!?! Graphics don't make a game good, The gameplay is. And AI is a VERY important part of that. Why numb down something so important?

Now... it is good if it is true... because the AI looked terrible in the demo.

They could have done others things to make it easier yet still have a great AI. Like making you have more health or whatever.

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solidsnakus - 535 days 20 hours ago

mag isnt coming out till 2010, and so is GOW3. watch GTTV and he asks jack tretton if gow3 is coming 2009 and he says "well try getting it out 09"

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Wildarmsjecht - 535 days 20 hours ago

MAG is rumored for a spring release, which means there is more than enough time for people to enjoy KZ2 in it's February launch.

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solidsnakus - 535 days 20 hours ago

and you actually believe them? all theyve shown is a cgi trailer.cgi trailer means its too early to show gameplay footage. therefore years more to go.anyways theyve only started working on gow3 since gow2 finished.

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SRuN4 - 535 days 19 hours ago

The VP of Product Development already said MAG was in internal beta tests. At the 1:15 mark.

http://www.gametrailers.com...

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mfwahwah - 535 days 18 hours ago

The reason GoW3 in-game footage wasn't shown was already commented on by Jack Tretton and Steven Rohdes. They've both said that they just wanted to give us a taste of a game and to formally announce it. They want to keep is in suspense.

Same with MAG since they've toyed with the idea since they put 150 people in R1 to see how it would work. They are now beta testing internally, so those games can come out in 09. Not saying they will, but you should understand what a teaser is. It has a purpose and has been used for it before: hype and suspense.

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King_many_layers - 535 days 5 hours ago

Motorstorm cgi and Resistance cgi, both shown this year and both titles due out this year.

explain that against your cgi theory.

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Fishy Fingers - 535 days 20 hours ago

No demo, but a public beta :)

Oh, how to gain admission is yet to be released. Hopefully completely open, just DL from the PSN.

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gameraxis - 535 days 17 hours ago

totally agree with u... best example of such, is fallout 3... teaser right up until e3. it amazes me how individuals can't put 2 plus 2 together and figure this out on their own

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RememberThe357 - 535 days 20 hours ago

I say crank it up, and let those journalists get their asses kicked. When they can.

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beavis4play - 535 days 20 hours ago

if they turned up the AI to proper levels- journalists would say the learning curve is too steep.

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mfwahwah - 535 days 18 hours ago

There's been talk going around about the higher AI levels. Your partner's AI was so high that he could single-handedly beat the level, so they had to tone that down a lot. Also, people have reported that the AI has done some pretty clever things, such as using grenades and flanking maneuvers in advanced tactics.

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tako2000 - 535 days 14 hours ago

@mfwahwah
Now you mention it, I do recall see magazine preview prior to E3 shows state that enemy AI is quite clever to drive player out of cover by using grenade, spread bullets to destroy cover and switch around cover to flank players.

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bishop-br - 535 days 8 hours ago

Making a beard man cry like a little girl because he got pwned right after he started in front of all other journalists would be a hell of a way to get bad publicity... Then again, making it as a surprise to atendees would be so funny! LOL

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thor - 535 days 20 hours ago

Yes but you _always_ have to do that, because the easiest thing to do in a game is to make the AI shoot perfectly accurate shots 100% of the time, and because the info about the enemies is stored on the console, the AI can "know" where exactly each enemy is, without having to look at them. That was just them boasting - ALTHOUGH I think IGN was impressed by the friendly AI...

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QuackPot - 535 days 16 hours ago

I enjoyed Killzone1 very much. The AI was not bad. The graphics/physics and very restricted linear gameplay is what annoyed me the most about the game.

At least the graphics/physics have been sorted with K2. Please, oh please open up the gameplay more GG and give more choice to the player...and vehicles.

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mistertwoturbo - 535 days 16 hours ago

Well with Killzone 1, playing that game. I truely felt they were limited by the hardware. You can almost sense as if there were tons of ideas they were trying to do, but couldn't materilize.

They did the best they can with the PS2 hardware. But the PS2 is what held it back from being a really good game.

And I guess to elaborate what I mean, is the chunky frame rates, unresponsive controls, and dumb A.I.

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decapitator - 535 days 20 hours ago

Nah, actually they revealed that it was on normal HOWEVER, it was tamed down as well. If all the pieces were in place, the press would not have been impressed with the game at all because, it might have become a little frustrating dealing with the A.I.

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THC CELL - 535 days 20 hours ago

easy normal ok

mp alone has sold this game,

people call it cod4 Get a life man
i dont see transport in cod 4 ( would of been if ps3 exclusive)
if anyone calls this call of duty 4 you are not a gamer u are just here for the sake of no life and x box fans gears of war has nooo chance
it will sell yes cause all of u are that dumb to buy game that look the same run the same and well never look better at all just some dlc that could of been added or patches maybe do what GTA is doing with ur episodic content but to be called gears of war 2 Cough 1.5 well

i would like people to look at games like operation flash point
that makes gears look bad i mean its all done before battlefield etc
Mag done before but without the 256 players no lag

talk about little big planet That game people say its for kids
come on....

Killzone is going to kill x box games
hell even R2 has killed the x box
Little big planet
Home

What The F is x box doing Copy and paste ideas and buy out games like ff

Halo best fps for xbox gears great but nothing will ever stop them going to nintendo or sony whatever
just like bioshock did and NG square running to xbox
who says money cant talk

People will be happy that xbox are getting sony games but i am happy u are getting sony games why cause u have F all else on
x box... developers are thinking up new ideas now and i will tell u now only the pc and ps3 can use em.....

The ps3 is future proof
x box is limited
almost dead

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PoSTedUP - 535 days 20 hours ago

hes right. they dumbed it down for the press. meaning they made them dumb on purpose so they could get through the levels with ease to show off to the press. im sure having good AI is impressive but what good is it for a beginner just wanting to see the whole demonstration? he would have a hard time with it ya know.

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thor - 535 days 20 hours ago

thc cell, I agree except I don't think killzone multiplayer has vehicles, the ship in the video is just like the helicopter in COD4 (I think!), except you can only call it if you are a particular class. But saying that it is as different to COD4 as any other FPS is, and how many people does COD4 support online? I've only played it on PC and it's up to like 64 players :)

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silverchode - 535 days 17 hours ago

wow halo looks like sh!t compared to kz2

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Montrealien - 535 days 2 hours ago

So the Fanboys want a game that comes out over a year after the launch of Halo 3 and well over 4 years into dev to kill it? Is it just me or is that a little sad?

They are both great games in their own right however for Killzone 2 to kill Halo 3 I think it would have to hop in to a time machine travel to the past and stop Halo 3 from selling 8 million games....

and thC Cell, learn to comment, your posts are nearly incomprehensible, they are just fanboy gibberish in my book.

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Kruzitu - 535 days 20 hours ago

uh your wrong, if you read this 'DEVELOPERS' forum post, he clearly said the 'ENEMY AI' was toned down for the press and public showing of the game.

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Kleptic - 535 days 19 hours ago

yeah...it was also said this was the first time the game was playable in non God-mode...which was causing ridiculous AI twitches in the past...

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PoSTedUP - 535 days 19 hours ago

the TEAM AI WAS TONED DOWN for the whole game cause the team AI was really smart and killing everyone for you. so they did dumb down the team AI all together. which is what dkgshiz is trying to say. and this also came out the devs mouth.

@ dkgshiz- this this article is saying the enemy AI was toned down ALSO so it was not that difficult for the PRESS to play. it was toned down JUST so the press could enjoy it with out frustration. ya know. thats all. not for the main game, just for the press and the demonstration.

everyone relax....

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jack who - 535 days 20 hours ago

this "A.I Was Toned Down Quite A Lot" "AI was turn off" "AI wasnt on"....have been said at e3 08 07 06 tgs..for lack of good AI in killzone 2....hope this helps

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Jamaicangmr - 535 days 15 hours ago

Listen you don't need to try to comment on every PS3 article. I don't know if you lost a bet or your just tryin to get acceptance from the rest of the Xbox360 loyalists but you need to chill with that mess.

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PoSTedUP - 535 days 14 hours ago

yea isnt that sh*t corny as hell. how pathetic...

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juuken - 535 days 14 hours ago

Guyz...he's a n00b. What did ya expect?

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