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Mortal Kombat VS DC Universe just dumb..

A disgrunteled Mortal Kombat fan shares his disappointment at Midway's new venture.

'Does anyone else think that Mortal Kombat vs Dc universe is a dumb idea?
I' m trying to make sense of it but all i could think is…why?
I mean its just so stupid it sounds like a joke from a bad sitcom, "Hey man who do you think would win in a fight? Indiana Jones or Ted Koppel?"'

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Published: 536 days 23 hours ago | News | PlayStation 3 | Xbox 360
 
 

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Sangria - 537 days ago
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I though the same thing when Marvel vs Capcom 2 released on Dreamcast.
I was saying "wtf there's no way a red-dressed karateka can beat a mutant from the future with telekinetic powers, huge weapons and metallic arm. It's not the same universe, the same way of fighting or thinking!".

But as a result? In my opinion one of the greatest fighting games with Guilty Gear series. Sure, a fight with Cable, Magneto, Venom or Juggernaut vs Ryu, Ken, Dan or Jill Valentine is totally unbalanced but it does not matter if the game is well done.

Marvel vs Capcom 2 had great graphics, animations, fluidity, colors, super-powers, etc.... and could make some epic battles ( http://www.youtube.com/watc... ), so if Mortal Kombat's gameplay has completely been dropped and if MKvsDC is well shaped, no matter if the two universes don't fit together, if we have a big pleasure fighting, so it's a deal.

(but if the game keep the classical rigidity of 3D Mortal Kombat games, well... *ahem*)
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Omegasyde - 536 days 22 hours ago
1.1 - Your sorta on the money
I understand what you are saying on don't knock it till you try it.
It won't work here is why:

1)Ed Boon
2)Teen Rating
3)Ed Boon
4)Superman now magically "handicapped" with limited flight?
5)Midway hasn't made a hit since NFL Blitz
6)No Fatalities. Ed says but there is! Nope they are now "loss-of-Consiousalities& amp; quot; i.e. Little blood, and you can't tear off limbs in a T rated game.
7)Story will suck, because the same guy who wrote Mk:DA and newer penned the script. Crossing Dimensions?
8)Warner Bro's(DC Comics) gets the final OK on what happens to their Character.
9)Ed Boon.
10)Midway is broke.
11)Name a Decent DC comics game. Please. Try.

As you can see Ed boon is massively over rated. Him and John Tobias, the Creators of the Mortal Kombat Universe, were great when Mortal Kombat was Mainstream with its controversial gameplay, over the top characters and game play. This was pre-2002. Its 2008 and Ed still can't get 3d gameplay right.

Now Looking at the last 3 iterations, Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance which wasn't half bad with a interesting Story (lui kang dies?). It also introduced some incentives to unlock items. Return of the Dragon King However was utterly crap. The game play gets worse. # fighting styles were a bad idea. This made the series way too confusing, and the weapon styles were horrible. Why would having a weapon out Handicap the person by receiving twice the damage when the guy holding the sword gets hit?

Lets not Talk about Mortal Kombat Armageddon. Crap story made no sense, Allows only 2 stances (which made people use to 3 pist) And then Ed Boon executes this brilliant idea gone horribly wrong.

"Create-a-fatality"

WTf, seems good on paper but now everyone one has the same create-a-fatality with no real distinction of finishers.Sure you can rip a arm off and beat the guy with it, but everybody has the same moves? Lack of Signature finishers. Everyone finally figured out the truth:

Armageddon was a limited budget rush job.

No individual fatalities because they didn't "have" the time to incorporate it for every character. The Online was very gimicky with MANY exploits when people would "create thier own fighter. The Stock characters weren't balanced, the story mode was good but the ending and main character made no sense. So where is the balance? No one wants to fight a unfair fight.

In order for Mortal Kombat to survive and Midway make money off it, there are 3 things they need to do:
1)Replace Ed Boon.
2)Make a Fun Yet Challenging fighting engine. One stance, with maybe weapons coming out only in combo's ala Mortal Kombat 3.
3)Bring back Fatalities, Babitalities, animaltalities, "suicides", Stage fatalities, and friendships. Make them unique for each character with many unlockables items to get when people accomplish certain task.

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Baka-akaB - 536 days 22 hours ago
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I'd argue that actually it wasnt that uncommon to have martial artists compete successful against mutants or powered up heroes/villains , in the marvel (or even the dc) universe .

It fitted for the reasons you advanced , but also because nothing street fighter added was out of place in the marvel universe ...
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Sangria - 536 days 21 hours ago
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@1.1: i totally agree with you, Mortal Kombat perhaps should be dead and buried it became so much a crap, just like Sonic with Sega. Midway now tries to wash their hand incoming DC Universe.

It's a good opportunity to change everything that made Mortal Kombat a crap, with first of all the gameplay and the graphics. I mean, yes Mortal Kombat is a near-the-death license, but i see MKvsDC as an opportunity for Midway to erase years of crap.

But if MKvsDC is still a crap (90% of chances that can be), it would be a sign for Midway to take drastic decisions, even if it has to close the studio (i guess Midway is in a bad situation financially). It the best have to do if MK keeps being so bad.
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PirateThom - 536 days 23 hours ago
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It's just dumb from the point of view, DC characters are kind of lame, while Mortal Kombat just plain sucks and always had. 2D included.

I like nothing about this game. Absolutely nothing.
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yoshiroaka - 536 days 23 hours ago
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You have a point there Sangria. Marvel vs Capcom did sound stupid but turned really great in the end. But i dont think Mk vs DC is gonna share a similar success. Midway hasn't made a decent fighting game in years. They are just riding on their name. I cant see this game being any better.
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SmokingMonkey - 536 days 23 hours ago
4 - ?
can you do a fatality against superman? rip off his head and spine?
maybe everyone will have character based fatalities?
like superman will get kryptonite jammed in ass?
Mortal Kombat without fatalities is not Mortal Kombat.
Like always STREET FIGHTER will pwn any fighters (SF4 specifically)
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Tyler Durden - 536 days 22 hours ago
4.1 - im preatty sure that
they said this game had fatalities
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Fanboy Slaughter - 536 days 22 hours ago
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I feel the need to post this in a reply also:

http://www.gamespot.com/xbo...

Towards the end of the interview, it explains the fatality situation
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RecSpec - 536 days 22 hours ago
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Sub Zero grabs head, screen goes black, you hear a scream

Fatality.
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Omegasyde - 536 days 22 hours ago
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"I was actually impressed to see how much passion the MK fans still have for the series. "
-Ed Boon

Wow, The series is almost 20 years going on...YA THINK?

They understand that their universe isn't as violent as Mortal Kombat's and that there would be a lot of assumptions that the game would be a "watered-down MK." So from that standpoint, we know that is where a lot of player's concerns would be. With that, our discussions with DC are mainly based on individual items that may or may not be too violent or are not in brand with their characters"
-Ed Boon

So Dc is running the Show. No Fatalities

"Question: Have you made any more headway on the fatality versus finishing moves?
Yes we have. All of the MK characters and all of the DC villains will have fatalities. The DC heroes who don't kill that often will have brutalities that will function just like fatalities but don't actually kill the opponent."
-Ed Boon.

Ok Lets LOOK at the definition of a T-RATED game by ESRB.

Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.
http://www.esrb.org/ratings...

Hmm Minimal Blood.... but may contain Violence...? Yea Ed Is going to waterdown fatalities to push people off buildings, Freeze people + Upercut, "poison kisses", or discinerate to ashes.
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LastDance - 536 days 22 hours ago
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Like ive said before...if its what boon and hes team need to rekindle their passion...all the more power to them!
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Fanboy Slaughter - 536 days 22 hours ago
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Is anyone else sick of the sudden fad that's happening....all of a sudden it's cool to hate on MK vs. DC, A GAME THAT IS MONTHS FROM RELEASE!!

And as far as the whole "cutting out fatailites"....read this, and feel stupid:

http://www.gamespot.com/xbo...
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RecSpec - 536 days 22 hours ago
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Hating on a game before it releases? NO, IMPOSSIBLE!!!!

That's how things work, you can't change it.
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Omegasyde - 536 days 22 hours ago
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Read My comment above please.

and remember Ed Noob, I mean Ed Boon is killing off Mortal Kombat.
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DARK WITNESS - 536 days 18 hours ago
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its not just about hate for this one game...

come on man, read between the lines. what we " hate " is what has happened to one of the best fighting games. This idea is just anther example of how bad its all getting.

just when you thought they could not do anything else to it... they do this.

Ya, maybe we should not knock it till we try it. but,looking at the track record so far there is every reason to believe that this is going to be nothing more then a big pile of Sh%t !

on the flip side, reading this makes me admire what capcom have been able to do with the street fighter games.
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Baka-akaB - 536 days 22 hours ago
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I'm dissapointed , but in a completely reverse way . Here it was an occasion to have a potentially good DC fighting game , even the first one ever ... with some decent graphics , but it had to involve mortal kombat .
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yoshiroaka - 536 days 21 hours ago
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Mortal Kombat vs Killer Instinct!!
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Strife Lives - 536 days 21 hours ago
9 - @Omegasyde
Dude,you said EVERYTHING I wanted to say lol soo,let me end by saying. Mk1,Mk2,Mk3 still playd on my PSP everyday,got that Midway Classics treasure UMD just for them. But,Mk 4 (ps1 crap ! !waste of money) Mk deadly aliance. And Mk Armageddon never ever gets into my ps2 on the rare ocasion that I use my PS2.WASTED MY MONEY ON ARMAGEDDON.what stupid endings without an fmv to end a story.pathetic.now this. . .Midway,you guys need new blood working there !
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Deee187 - 536 days 21 hours ago
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Id rather have Marvel vs DC comics...
Spidey vs Batman
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Enterprise-E - 536 days 20 hours ago
11 - I just don't see why all the hate?
Maybe because i wasn't a die hard fan of the games. I mean if you call what MK a story then i must of missed something. People need to remember that this game is not going to make everyone happy and sometimes they have to just say no to the fans.

Same thing happened to the Resident Evil Fans when Capcom released RE4 which by the way had nothing to do we previous games and the fact that it was going be a third person action game. Now the end result was a game of the year title which spawned many awesome games today like Gears of War and Metal Gear Solid 4.

Which means sometimes they have throw out that handbook and start a new one. Me Personally look forward to this game because it represents something totally different and out of the box. Which is the kind of game this genre could use.
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xxBATTLECATxx - 536 days 20 hours ago
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i think the game could be really good ONLY if it doesnt feel like a mortal combat game. i think MK is one of the worst fighting franchises ever, the fighting animations are just too rediclous
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c0nnnn - 536 days 19 hours ago
13 - yo
i think this game while be alright. How can u not like brutalities,
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Dick Jones - 536 days 17 hours ago
14 - I'd rather have MK vs Thundercats
At least then, I'd know they still gave half a **** about MK. Teen rating = Fail
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shadow skill - 536 days 17 hours ago
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This is just sad, I mean honestly it is sad.
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bednet - 536 days 13 hours ago
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Nobody, and I mean nobody, not a single MK character or any other DC characters for that matter can take on Superman...without cryptonite...ok maybe Bane but that's it...You can't hurt the man of steel.

The guy can stop bullets with his eye, but scorpion's hook will somehow penetrate. Sub-zero will freeze him, but the guy lives in Antarctica for god's sake. And for some reason punches and kicks will hurt him.
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