The Bourne Conspiracy PS3 Requires 5GB Install

drunk pandas - 573 days 16 hours ago

If they're small, it's not that big of a deal. But so many games now requiring 4-5gb of data is just insane

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fenderputty - 573 days 16 hours ago

but I'm not really all that concerned. You can delete install date without affecting game saves. Just reinstall later. It's a pain, but whatever. I'm thinking of getting and external HDD for my PS3 anyway.

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crck - 573 days 16 hours ago

I mean the whole game fits into 9gb. And they have to do 5gb installs? Somethings not right there... I have a 120gb hard drive in my Ps3 with about 70gb free. But most casuals don't.

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fenderputty - 573 days 16 hours ago

=D

I'm not casual and I don't have that much space.

Why it's so large? Sounds like a shortcut to me. Who knows though.

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Genesis5 - 573 days 16 hours ago

So why is my hard drive going to fill up? After I've played the game and beat it and then mess around with it a little bit after that. I just delete it off my hard drive. Why would I leave it on? If a while down the road I want to play it again, I'll just reinstall it.

I honestly do not see why this is such a big issue to some people. Believe me the load times are way quicker and the over all performance of the game is much better when the data is streaming from the hard drive.

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colonel179 - 573 days 15 hours ago

So you have to install 5gb so what? That is for the Game Data Utility, so whenever you finish the game you can delete it. It is not like if you delete it your game saves are going to get deleted too. People are making this a big issue because they need to find some reason to hate the ps3. If this gets resolved, I can bet a million dollars that they will find another reason.

I have 24 games, and I just have 4 games in my "Game Data Utility" folder, because I don't play most of the other. I also started playing DMC 4 again, so i installed it again and there was no problem. It's not the end of the world

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JasonXE - 573 days 15 hours ago

why do you need to 5gb install everything when the blu ray is so big???

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CrazzyMan - 573 days 14 hours ago

HDD was made to remove loadings, not for install of soem average games.
I hope sales will suck, people should support install for every AVERAGE game, i can deal when the game is MASTERPIECE like MGS4, FFXIII or GT5, but some average sh1t? No way!

p.s. though you can change anytime HDD to 250GB, i still don`t support when average game takes so much install.
Is that so hard to be like Naughty Dog or insomniac? Ratchet and Uncharted says hi!

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Real Gambler - 573 days 12 hours ago

When the specifications for the PS3 came out, one of the nicest selling point was: "They will ALL have hard drives, so devs will be able to use them since it's not an option"

Now, devs use the hard drive, and they shouldn't????

What's the point of having hard drives in all the PS3 then??? Just for the look? Nah, you cannot even see it? You would think they put a hard drive in ALL the PS3 so devs could use it, but I may be wrong. Ya, those nasty devs should not use it. Heck, the PS3 also come with a game controller, but they should not use it either. Shoot, I just thought that it comes with a bluray drive too, but they should not use that too. They should ship their game on a USB key. That would be totally foolish to use the hardware provided! Yep, doesn't make sense to use something available on all the consoles. I'm sure the hard drive was not designed to hold games stuff. Those Sony engineers likely had something else in mind for it. Likely put your numerous recipes on it? Or maybe it was just for Linux... Yep, that's it, they never thought somebody would put games data on it. Dang I hate those devs : )

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mikeslemonade - 573 days 12 hours ago

I can fit 20 5gb game installs on HDD in the PS3. Do I really need to be playing 20 games simulataneously. Just delete the install when you are done playing the game.

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bakasora - 573 days 11 hours ago

This might represent bad coding. I played the demo, the loading is so slow.

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Sev1512 - 573 days 16 hours ago

Agreed. 5GB for MGS4, perfectly acceptable. 5GB for Bourne... Nope

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scottie2521 - 573 days 16 hours ago

agreed

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Mr_Showtime1 - 573 days 16 hours ago

Greed & Lazyness

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pegger24 - 573 days 16 hours ago

@mr_showtime1

Do you usually do more work for the same result? I am sick of everyone always calling people laze and greedy when they do installs or take any short cuts, My guess is when you go to work you do just enough, like everyone else, and I also bet you have never said to your boss, I am going to work harder todaythan I normally do but I would like to make less money for the day.
Get off your god **** high horse, at least Sony included the option to up your hard drive, so what does it even matter

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Coheno - 573 days 16 hours ago

Unfortunatly it also takes more time and costs more money... I think that's why many 3rd party studios choose the easy way and make a 5 GB install, which is ridiculous!

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Jenzo - 573 days 15 hours ago

Not all developers have $60 million to play with like Guerilla.

If Sony(or whoever is responsible) gave them better support maybe they could.

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Mr_Showtime1 - 573 days 15 hours ago

firstly, Im at still at school so I dont work and secondly, when developers like Naughty Dog can make a came like Uncharted or Insomniac with Resistance and Ratchet and Clank with no installs or and on some occasions basically no load times, then games like this and Haze come along, which are below par games which eat up our harddrives on our PS3's and charge £40 for it then I for one am not going to accept it.

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Nostradamus - 573 days 16 hours ago

quote: "what happend to the good old days of stick a disk in and of you go"

Those "good old days" are still around, its only the PS3 that does this, the 360 and even Wii do not require installs.

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jojo319 - 573 days 16 hours ago

from what i understand BR players are not fast enough to stream the data efficiently. So the "installs" are really just cache's. I would imagine the PS3's we see 2 or 3 years from now won't require installs because the stock drives will be faster. Just a guess.

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GutZ31 - 573 days 15 hours ago

@jojo

The Blu-ray drives are on par, if not faster then DVD drives from both Wii and Xbox 360.
The issue is that architecturally, it takes a different approach to handling data, and in that, data is all read in a one sweep fashion.
The higher the speed a DVD and CD drive goes, the more errors, or "misses" in information gathering occurs.

This by no means makes Blu-ray the better format by far, it actually makes it pretty much a level field if you ask me, as Blu-rays have much more data to read in the first place as apposed to DVDs.

The biggest problem plaguing the PS3 is in fact, Sony, and 3rd party developers that don't know what the hell there doing.

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Pornlord - 573 days 16 hours ago

SHENANAIGANS!!!!!

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jackdoe - 573 days 16 hours ago

Lol. Wii, not the 360, is the best/closest example of the way consoles are supposed to work (for the most part, don't even get me started on Nintendo's horrid wi-fi). Quiet, reliable, cheap, and no installs.

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Nostradamus - 573 days 16 hours ago

So I do care.

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princejb134 - 573 days 16 hours ago

i dont think its the developers fault
i think it was sonys gamble by adding the blue ray drive which has slow reading speed
but if developers also wanted faster reading speed might as well duplicate the files since they should have enough space on the disk to do it

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mariusmal - 573 days 12 hours ago

i dont think it's only the read speed. the architectures of the consoles are very different. some publishers just want to capitalize on their products without caring about the quality. then we have the real devs.... infinity ward etc etc. that made a great game on all 3 platforms.

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waseem335 - 573 days 16 hours ago

Halo 3 and Gears 1 was 3 hours long lmao hahaha

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TheFART at XfagKings - 573 days 16 hours ago

B!TCH

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Thoas - 573 days 16 hours ago

LOL we can get a 320GB HDD for $140, but Xbox 360 owners have to pay $170 to upgrade to 120GB, Damn that must suck to erase things all the time on your 20GB?? Right now I have a 160GB HDD with 101GB left. So bring on those 4GB installs. PS3 FTW!

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Mr Fancy Pants - 573 days 16 hours ago

-"having to wait 5-20 minutes for each game you want to play for the first time"- In my opinion that's the real problem with mandatory installations, the long time they take.... If the installations were fast then all would be, perfect?

every console have their pros and cons, nothing new but for me the PS3 has all the pros i am interested! like FF games, blu-ray player, free online...

at the end the mandatory installations is just one of the many cons of the PS3 but that's not something as serious as reliability problems? ok that's bad.

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Light Yagami - 573 days 16 hours ago

They're also not suppose to break down and scratch your games. I'm glad I am able to upgrade my HDD for cheap unlike another console.

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Aquanox - 573 days 15 hours ago

@ Thoas:

So PS3 users will have to spend $150-$200 bucks more just to be able to play a wide variety of games at a given time?

I honestly prefer just plugging and play them. After all, it's true that Xbox 360's HDDs are more expensive, but at least you know they will be full by worthly stuff instead of Game installations just to make up for the slow drive speed of the console (In the case of the PS3 blu-ray)

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juuken - 573 days 13 hours ago

...And that's why it's outdated.

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ravinshield - 572 days 19 hours ago

oblivion...4.6gb required
sony may cry 4...4.7gb-20 min install
full auto 2...1.7gb required
spider man 3...2.3gb-five min install
hot shot golf...5gb-five min install
skate...2.5gb--five min install
rainbow six vegas 2...3.4gb required
wwe smackdown vs raw 2008....2.3gb required
F.E.A.R...2.5gb required
NBA 07....3gb-ten min install
lost....3.6gb---six minute install
conflict denied ops...2.5gb required
beowulf---2.5gb---five minute install
GT prologue--5349MB..13 minutes install
Quake=4.1 GB install
GTA 4...5 min install.
battlefield:BC...300mb required
Bourne Conspiracy..5GB Install required

.hope you didnt buy a 40 gig
WEll all i got to say is
WAIT B3YOND or INSTALL BEYOND

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juuken - 572 days 18 hours ago

Wow ravinshield...you're actually proving how outdated the 360 truly is! Those installs don't even take that long! Surely, a gamer cannot be THAT impatient to play a game!

Your list fails and so does your argument.

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Aquanox - 573 days 15 hours ago

Yes, that forum was PS3forums.com, and they of course WANTED TO BELIEVE that those pictures were edited since the difference in quality and detail was so abysmal in favor of the Xbox 360.

The proof that the comparison was 100% real, unedited is here:

http://www.ps3forums.com/sh...

In addition, this is a summary of what the voice in the IGN video said:

Xbox 360 Disadvantages

"This is a matter of preference, but gamers will notice that the camera comes in very close to Sam's back on the 360 version."

PS3 Disadvantages

"The PS3 versions has overall brighter environments, however the lighting is less dynamic causing things to look washed out and loosing the blackness of the shadows.

The textures and character models on PS3 suffer from a decrease in quality. For example the first prison guard that Sam assails is completely different on 360 than it is on PS3. In the included video you can see that the 360 version has an open mouth and more details in his face and clothing.

The PS3's frame rate is not as smooth as the 360's. In the very first level this is evident when simply rotating the camera around Sam.

Some small effects have been dropped from the 360 version. Like the special distortion that occurs when he puts on his night vision goggles. On PS3 the screen simply turns green instead becoming wavy and heavily outlining every thing."

So, sorry, the comparison was REAL. =)

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TheFART at XfagKings - 573 days 16 hours ago

says the idiot that cannot afford a real PC and instead buys a cheapman's PC called X360.

Nearly All X360 exclusives are way better on PC.

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heyheyhey - 573 days 16 hours ago

yeah except only 4 games have a 5gb install so far

and there's like 6 games that have tiny installations

no big deal, hundreds of games don't have one

what are the odds thats someone would want every game that requires an installation on their PS3

and that person could have an upgraded HDD

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TheMART at Xboxkings - 573 days 15 hours ago

@ one of the countless mini-me's I have

First off you sound sad over buying a PS3. Second: you have to admit, console gaming is ment to be put in and play. Not to put in and install. And certainly not put in, install with many games having no room on the HDD anymore.

That's just plain sad.

BTW I own a great PC setup, but I prefer playing on the 360 with controller on my HDTV instead of PC at the desk and a keyboard thats meant to TYPE on

@ heyheyhey

1. Bourne Conspiracy
2. DMC4
3. Hot Shots Golf
4. GTAIV (3GB install but still a lot)
5. Lost Planet
6. Haze
7. MGS4 (will have a 5GB install)

That's already 6 x 5GB = 30GB + 3 = 33GB and more games will follow.
Just to speed up the slow BluRay game loading times.

25 minutes installs. It's a PC. This is no console gaming anymore.

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heyheyhey - 573 days 15 hours ago

yeah.... but do you know anyone who has all those games and intends to play them more than once and who DOESN'T have an upgraded HDD?

no, i didn't think so

those installs have advantages too you know- less strain on the BD drive and improved performance (well obviously, why else do they exist?)

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Aquanox - 573 days 14 hours ago

You're spending even more money on the already expensive Playstation 3 just for the ability of playing various games at a given time? Something that the Xbox 360 does by default.

I don't see the good deal here.

By the way, very few people is able to spend so much money on a console, especially now in times of recession.

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heyheyhey - 573 days 14 hours ago

and i shall use it to store hi-def pr0n :)

besides, i can get them mega-cheap

and im not getting it because of the installations, im getting it because i can and you can't and that makes me feel big and clever

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Aquanox - 573 days 13 hours ago

How exactly does that level of reply make you feel big and clever? lol...

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juuken - 573 days 13 hours ago

Aquanox, may I ask why you're making such a big deal about this? Installs go by very, very fast. They don't take up that much space either. I installed GTAIV on my PS3 and it was done before I could snap my fingers. Installs improves the game's overall quality.

Stop spinning damage control for heaven's sake. Once MS makes a system that's more reliable and it's cheaper, I'll consider it. But for now? PS3 FTW.

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Aquanox - 573 days 13 hours ago

False. That's because the 12x DVD is capable of keeping up with good loading speeds whereas a 2x Blu-ray isn't.

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juuken - 573 days 13 hours ago

...And I'm wondering why you have so many bubbles at the moment Aquanox.

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juuken - 573 days 12 hours ago

What kind of facts may I ask?
The one that makes the PS3 sound really bad when it's one of the best systems anyone could own?

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