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EDGE: MGS4 Review 8/10 (Scans)

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EDGE pt 2 - b.imagehost.org | By: Superfragilistic
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Published: 568 days 6 hours ago | News | PlayStation 3
 
 

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pharmd - 568 days 6 hours ago
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wow.... and they gave GTA4 a 10/10?

are you kidding me?
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Violater - 568 days 6 hours ago
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wow just wow, thats it I'm out before the sh!tstorm starts.
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el_bandito - 568 days 6 hours ago
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Bad reviews, low scores, or whatsoever. They won't stop me from getting the game day 1.
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Time Lord - 568 days 6 hours ago
1.3 - MGS2 & MGS3 both got 8
Bishock and gear of war got 8, Mario Kart got SIXfrom Edge! So to fan this mean jack S..t
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Fishy Fingers - 568 days 6 hours ago
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To everyone says... "they gave GTA 10/10 ZOMG!!!" Remember that they have played both GTA and MGS, have you?

While I'm super hyped for MGS, slagging off a reviewer that's played the game when you have NOT is ridiculous.

It's opinion... nothing more.
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CrazzyMan - 568 days 6 hours ago
1.5 - SOMETHING FISHY HERE.
Eurogamer:
MGS4 - 8
GRID - 9
EDGE:
MGS4 - 8
GRID - 9

GRID brings more to a genre, then MGS4? LOL.

THEY, PROBABLY, JUST DON`T LIKE MGS.
MGS 2 - 8
MGS 3 - 8
MGS THE TWIN SNAKES - 7
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pharmd - 568 days 6 hours ago
1.6 - @ fishy fingers
yeah, you make a good point, my whole thing is... i didnt think GTA4 deserved a 10/10 so....

a. i question their cred as compared to my own opinion

b. i just cant fathom Kojima making something worse than GTA4

@violater
LOL
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Violater - 568 days 6 hours ago
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looks like I need to go back and play grid.
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Alcohog - 568 days 5 hours ago
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Its Edge, they are a joke!
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Fishy Fingers - 568 days 5 hours ago
1.9 - ^pharmd
Well there's the opinion.

After you have played both, and you give GTA 8/10 and MGS 10/10 will that make you right and EDGE wrong? Nope, that's just your opinion and at the end of the day, it is only your opinion that should truly hold weight with you.

Edge have always been harsh and hard to please, that's why I like them, because they don't buy into hype. But regarding scores, some of my favorite games have been canned by the reviewers, I don't care, give it 5/10 or give it 10/10, doesn't effect what you get in the box.

MGS4 has been made for the fans, not everyone's going to like that, but fans will love it.

@Superfragilistic, Thank You :)
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Superfragilistic - 568 days 5 hours ago
1.10 - @Fishy Fingers
I agree wholeheartedly.

You deserves bubbles for a reasoned and sensible argument. If I could give you more I would. :)
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AllroundGamer - 568 days 5 hours ago
1.11 - pharmd
whoever pays the reviewers more - wins, don't you know that?
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HighDefinition - 568 days 5 hours ago
1.12 - First off.
10 for GTAIV
9 for GRID

From edge is rubbish.

8 from EDGE seems realistic, considering normally a 8 from them is a 11 from someone else.
1.13 theKiller | 568 days 5 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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LastDance - 568 days 5 hours ago
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this is what happens when they dont buy out reviews....another gaming trait the east is yet to pick up...
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callahan09 - 568 days 5 hours ago
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Yeah all these "critics" who give a game like MGS an 8 are a bunch of ignoramuses (ignorami?). Game development is a high-risk business, criticism is extremely low-risk. The people who poured their hearts & souls into making MGS 4 a competent game that runs smooth and is fun to play, the powerful & creative minds who invented this story and tell it with such cinematic flair... these people are the real heroes of our industry. The critics who undermine their creativity and efforts are just jealous weaklings. They exercise all the creativity of a rat, if that much.

I find it personally offensive how they mistreat the fruits of these brilliant peoples' labor. MGS4 has had more put into it than any game coming out this year, with a deeper and more meaningful story and running on an incredible technology that never slows down and always looks pretty. It's a fun game with high replay value. These critics need to learn to appreciate the efforts of their biological superiors (and by that I don't mean Japanese versus European... I mean literally that the folks who developed this game have powerful, intelligent, intuitive creative minds the likes of which these critics couldn't even dream of having)
1.16 kindi_boy | 568 days 3 hours ago - comment has been reported as SPAM -
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Gamingisfornerds - 568 days 3 hours ago
1.17 - Credit for Fishy Fingers indeed.
It's nice to see some gamers in here with a common sense of reality.

@kindi_boy, lol...that's just pathetic, seriously.

I see people from all sides whining about reviews. And it always boils down to the same thing, whichever "camp" you're on:

If the review score doesn't match your expectations, the reviewer/reviewing site is rubbish and are biased/payed off. Once the score does meet your expectations, they're the holy grail of reviewers!

I'm not a MGS4 fan and am not impressed with what I've seen of this game so far, not one bit. Perhaps I decided to play it anyway and came to the conclusion that I recognize the quality present in the game, but just didn't enjoy it. In that case I could give it an 8. I'm I wrong then? Should I give it a 10 because others do enjoy it a lot? No. It's my opinion and that's all that matters.
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PistolPumptMonk - 568 days 2 hours ago
1.18 - @theKiller
HA totally just made my day. best comment ever.
1.19 theKiller | 568 days 2 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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Gamingisfornerds - 568 days 2 hours ago
1.20 - @theKiller:
You can review a game by set aspects, but even then the score can differ greatly from review to review.

Graphics is highly subjective. One game can have all the technical bla bla, but may have horrible art-direction and design. Should the reviewer then just say: It has that much AA, good AF and high draw distance and give it a 10? That's just silly.

2 different reviewers can for instance point out 5 aspects of a game in their review. But one reviewer will put more weight into one aspect than the other. One might think graphics are more important than the other. Another reviewer might think story is where it's all at. I myself almost always agree with Gametrailers.com reviews. I mostly agree with their points and arguments in their reviews. Except, I often totally disagree with the score...see where I'm getting at?

You see, it doesn't make sense to go by each and every aspect of a game and determine the score by the sum of those parts. It's about the overal experience...FUN...you know? I think that's something gamers tend to forget, expecially this generation. It's all about "my d*ck is bigger than yours" and completely overlooking what games are all about in the end.
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illizit - 568 days 2 hours ago
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@fishy fingers
If they didn't buy into the hype, then why did they give GTA IV a 10/10? IMO, NO GAME should EVER get a 10/10 unless its absolutely perfect. GTA IV is not one of those games; it's not perfect. It has bugs, etc. It has been the best game this year however it still doesn't make it perfect nor a 10/10.
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LJWooly - 568 days 1 hour ago
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This is the same EDGE that gave Halo 3 10/10. Hard to please, my arse.
1.23 theKiller | 568 days 1 hour ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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darkpower - 567 days 20 hours ago
1.25 - @Fishy
How do you figure that MGS4 got more hype than GTA4? GTA4 had the entire DLC argument attached to it and Microsoft wouldn't shut up about it. It had ALL news outlets talking about EVERYTHING about GTA4.

Has anyone done THAT kind of thing with MGS4 just yet. Yeah, it's being hyped, but not as much as GTA4 was. So your argument fails, and how Superfrag could blindly think that was a good argument is beyond me.
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bishop-br - 567 days 16 hours ago
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We all know MGS is a love or hate case.

Some people hate the long cutscenes, the stealth gameplay (you can't just go out of cover shooting without die sometimes...) while many others just love all of it.

I can understand people that like more GTA than this, so for one side I can understand those rates. But, looking for the other way, they should make the review showing the qualities of the game, not their personal opnion.

Said that, I don't have read. I can't say if they made a good or a bad review without reading it... The rate? It's just opnion, taste, personal.
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Mark 1 - 567 days 12 hours ago
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Be happy that EDGE gave it an 8. I would have given a 5 for the cutscenes, framerate and load times.
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darkpower - 567 days 12 hours ago
1.28 - @Mark 1
So...you've already played the entire game before it comes out on June 12th? Wow, Kojima must've been EXTRA nice to you!
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LeSouteneur - 568 days 6 hours ago
2 - I usually never agree with them
I felt none of their scores ever factored in how I liked the game. Bioshock and Gears of War an 8, while Halo 3 and GRiD get 9s and 10s.\

Still, don't be discouraged, EDGE usually gives out the lowest score a game can get (Check out gamerankings, edge is normally found at the very bottom of a game). Bioshock had an 8, yet its average is still one of the highest any game could have
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solidt12 - 568 days 5 hours ago
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Yeah that's just Crazy. They gave Gears and Halo 3 a 8 but a Racing game a 9. I wonder what they gave GT5 Prologue?
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morganfell - 568 days 5 hours ago
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who is discouraged? look what i had to say about ng2. mgs4 is not a mainstream game. it has had mainstream press but it is still a game, as has been repeatedly stated by kojima, made for the mgs fans. i am proud to say it is my favorite series. i did not be come a fan in the past 6 months. i am not a rpg gamer that is going to try it. i have been a gear head since 1987.

i have a hard time buying into a review and the first thing i see is the fact the release date in the article is the 16th. if you can't get a fact straight how can i trust your opinion.

regardless as a gear head i am far beyond the mere opinions of some rpg gamer writing a review in a booth half way round the world. this is what people do not get. as gear heads we could care less what some non gear head has to say about it. it isn't that i don't play rpgs. i have played a few. but gear heads know that the mg series is a genre unto itself and you either get it or you do not.

if you think people laugh at gear heads then you have no idea the ridicule and derision they have for people for whom the mg series is just quite beyond.

you can easily spot a gear head. when someone says 90 minute cutscene they say "great!"
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ape007 - 568 days 6 hours ago
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this is a complete consparacy against the ps3,no other way to figure this out
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urban bohemian - 568 days 5 hours ago
3.1 - Really?
Gears of war got the same score. We'll have to wait and play it before we can decide how good it is mate.
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ape007 - 568 days 3 hours ago
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do think that gears of war can touch mgs

I know gears of war is great but nothing can beat the boss.
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Area_51 - 568 days 2 hours ago
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i'm telling you -2 off the top for not being on the 3fixme
there is so much corruption in gaming buisness right now, it makes me sick to the stomach.
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SteveUrkel - 568 days 2 hours ago
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this is the same score they gave other MGS games in the past! not corruption/conspiracy; freedom of expressing opinion! can you honestly claim corruption when they have a history of rating the series as an 8? if you're a fan of the series its a 10/10 and day one buy already. screw the reviews : )
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ape007 - 568 days 1 hour ago
3.5 - @3.4
reviews should be a product review not an opinion review,the word review doesn't mean an opinion,it means how good is the product,for example:graphics quality,story,gameplay,lengh,o nline mode,any bugs,framerate issues,replay value,etc....
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ice_prophecy - 568 days 6 hours ago
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I dont really care anymore. MGS4 is a genre which some people may not like. I am ok with that. Super Smash Brawl, as much as people talk it up - to me its SSB /w different characters.

The game is pre-ordered and paid for in full. I am going to pick it up and play it regardless of what people think! Why? Snake is probably one of the very few, if not only, character that ages over the game's time period. That just happens to rock my world.

Edit: The monkey makes me laugh for some reason. I just have to know its story.
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solidt12 - 568 days 5 hours ago
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You didn't know! the Monkey will be the main character in MGS5 with octo camo. LOL
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Organic_Chemistry - 568 days 2 hours ago
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What monkey? You mean the keropi frog in mgs3 ?
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Ghoul - 568 days 6 hours ago
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There is a hidden rule reading edge eviews

read the review ifnore the score, ecge reviews are great they way they write about the good and the bad in each game is very good, the scores have never been very good.

an 8 from edge is a 9 from massmedia.
a sure buy for me no matter what who when says you really gotta relax a little about review scores, me personaly couldnt care less what joen doe in chigao thinks about a game, its me who rates if he likes a game and how much.
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shine1396 - 568 days 6 hours ago
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didn't they give halo a ten? so what what did mass media give halo then...eight means that its a good game, nothing special, i reckon...
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Ghoul - 568 days 6 hours ago
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yeah thats what i said didnt i ?

for get the 10 ratings i give a fl***g f**k about 10s they are mostly made out of hype i liked halo 3 and i love gta4 but they do not deserve a ten in normal criteria, maybe in momentum and style (for each customer class) but not in technical or gamedesign superiority
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kingOVsticks - 568 days 6 hours ago
6 - sigh
"shakes head" just "shakes head" -_-
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hotshot127 - 568 days 6 hours ago
7 - wait a minute
before 360 fanatics come in here. remember.......they gave bioshock a 8 also.

so i could care less. it just sickens me that games like gta get 10's. oh man, it almost makes me not even want to go pick up gta anymore. i only rented it at first but i think im going to be sick knowing im playing overrated sh!t
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ape007 - 568 days 6 hours ago
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am I dreaming or somthing,gta4=10,mgs4=8
????????????????????????????? ???????????
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shysun - 568 days 6 hours ago
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Sooooooo, Grid is ranked higher? That mag never agrees with me.
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The Wood - 568 days 5 hours ago
9.1 - nail on the head
they are not us. We know what we like and expecting them to be clones of us just wouldn't be right. Im sure i love some games that you hate and vice versa. Its just their opinion. grid on the other hand getting 9 is just corruption lol;) *wink wink*
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Infinite-Ammo - 568 days 6 hours ago
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Another 8, aint gonna stop me from buying it.

I think this just maybe a way of lowering the hype, we were all hyped up for GTA4, reviewers saying this is the best game in 10 years, but when it was released it didnt live up to it at all. Same with Haze, turned out dreadful after all the hype.
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