Ubisoft: IGN's Haze review 'pretty rude'

pwnsause - 581 days 1 hour ago

this is damage control, but i agree that there should be a standard in reviewing games, like Famitsu's review standard

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Dlacy13g - 581 days 1 hour ago

Gamespy, Gamespot & Xplay were too low too? This game is getting hammered on by a vast array of sites now. I dont think this is just an "IGN" issue...this game just isnt that good.

I will say I like your idea of the 4 person review system....but...most sites usually arent going to have the kind of staff to put a review system like that in place.

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sonarus - 581 days 1 hour ago

The thing is the game may not be as bad as hour of victory and a lot of other crap games that share such ratings but we all expected a lot from free radical and they failed in so many ways. I have played the demo and the graphics are definitely not worth a 4.5 but i guess maybe ign over reacted. Everyone is pretty much disappointed in haze and what better way to tell them than with a big FAT 4.5

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Saint Sony - 581 days 1 hour ago

Ubi, if you want better score, give us better games.

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season007 - 581 days ago

if 4.5 is used to tell people how bad the game is, why don't they just do either a 0 or 10, what is the scale from 1 to 10 for...

I guess some of you just don't get it...

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rroded - 581 days ago

Sad as it sounds fact is that theirs been an anti ps3 slant on a lot of na media. IMO the game wasnt al that but certainly deserves a better score than turok... That and the recent gamespot ranking change really points to ms rallying the troops imo.

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rroded - 581 days ago

yep n after the gamespot score change who can say ms isnt rallying the troops...

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gambare - 581 days ago

then I linked the scores and the Ubisoft brand....mm.... suspicious uh? two rude scores in a row.

The game is not awesome, but is WAY better than titles like denied ops.

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Meresin - 580 days 17 hours ago

There are far worse games out there that got better reviews than Haze did. I have a feeling it was rated based on how it performed relative to the hype instead of how it performed relative to other products in the same category.

No, the game didn't live up to expectations. However, that doesn't make it worse than Blacksite. :P

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BrianC6234 - 580 days 3 hours ago

Wow, this game really is getting bad reviews. The best one on metacritic is a 71 and they say "So Haze, as a PS3 exclusive, is far from a reason to own a PS3.". That's from PSM3 UK magazine.

I have too many games to play now anyway so I'm passing on Haze. The played the demo but it didn't really get me to want the game. It looked like every other shooter game besides the part of injecting nectar.

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Condoleezza Rice - 581 days 1 hour ago

Agreed ^

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EZCheez - 581 days 1 hour ago

Blacksite:Area 51 scored 2 points higher in graphics than Haze on IGN, and I really don't see that much difference. And from what I saw of the demo, I would have imagined the scoring to be the other way around.

Anyway, it's just time to let it go. They are free to have their own opinion. Maybe they really, really hated that flamethrower.

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Breakfast - 581 days 1 hour ago

"the developers said its going to be better then halo"

Halo killed another game...lol.

When will people learn....just BE better. And stop talkin hype, to the hype king.

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VisibleSchlong - 581 days ago

"Halo killed another game...lol.

When will people learn....just BE better. And stop talkin hype, to the hype king."

Get a life guy...

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Breakfast - 581 days ago

@ visibledick

lol....you joined up, 17 minutes ago, and you already have an ignore (not mine by the way). Good job, buddy.

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Hatchetforce - 581 days ago

I picked up the game today. While the vehicular portions need refinement I have had a very enjoyable time with the rest. I had Army of Two and returned it and I almost never take a game back or trade it in. Haze is easily superior to that. Not in the graphics department but in overall gameplay and value of time spent. And none of my AI team mates have been responsible for my death the way they constantly were in AO2.

The core of what the devs were trying to produce is a good story and idea. The execution however isn't perfect. When you are riding in on the second mission and the news chatter is reporting the atrocities of the rebel leader you begin to see how Mantel is slanting the intel to suit their goals and the idea of PSYOPS on your own personnel gets a decent treatment as subject matter.

For all of the idiocy of the comments of the AI they are no different than Marines I have been around on occasion. Juvenile and sure of their invincibility. Those of us that are older knew we were only bulletproof on our good days and then only if we were very very careful.

The game isn't a 4.5 and IGN should be ashamed considering the scores they have given some other titles. They stated they give a 10 not because a game is perfect but because it pushes the bounderies. That is a lie. They awarded GTA4, which I own, 10s across the board. Is it a 10 across the board? Hardly.

Let's look at graphics. To push the bounderies graphically means they would certainly have to be going beyond anything from 2007. This means the graphics in GTA4 have to go beyond Bioshock, beyond HALO3, beyond Uncharted, beyond Heavenly Sword. Quite frankly if we are honest about it GTA4 has some damn ugly graphics in it and collision detection that is a sin.

At the end of the day the big issue I have with those bunch of scabs over at IGN is this. A game that rates a 4.5 is a pretty shameful title. Issues must be quite glaring. I mean literally jumping out of the game and punching you in the face. Yet in the past 3 previews conductedby IGN those shameful glaring issues are where? Where are they mentioned? Nowhere. Why not? Politics and money. IGN is ever bit as guilty as Gamespot.

Frankly Ubisoft should consider cutting IGN off completely. Ordinarily I would not be for such a move but sites like IGN, Gamespot, and 1up have become so corrupt and influence motivated they have no right wielding the sort of influence they do. Suddenly game makers are having to cater to reviewers rather than gamers and our experience as consumers is all the poorer for it.

Regardless if you are a 360 fan, PS3 fan, or Wii fan, or window fan these type of actions hurt everyone that loves this hobby we all share. In the midst of all of our bickering in which I and everyone here participates, at the end of the day we all share the same hobby and the same desire. To enjoy that title alone or with friends that transports us to this other worldly experience. And companies like IGN damage that experience and are thieves of the past time of us all.

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juuken - 581 days ago

Hatchet, that was very well said.
Because of your comments, I think I'm going to give this game a chance. I'm glad Gamespot kicked me out. Their site is corrupt, just like IGN and 1up.

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Breakfast - 581 days ago

Thanks for the write up. One question though.

Is the multi-player any good?

EDIT: @ Below

pm me, when you think you've played enough of the multi-player, to were you can base your opinion on it.

thanks for the write up again, both this time :)

Im on edge of whether or not i should try this game.

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Hatchetforce - 581 days ago

@ Breakfast. I have been in the game about 3 hours and haven't jumped into MP. Co-op though is the king's biscuit and well worth it. I am going to catch a movie here at the house but I will get into MP later tonight. I will be happy to let you know what I think.

The game isn't perfect. It has some holes in it. Noticeable 'some one drove a truck through that wall' type of holes. And it isn't a HALO killer. No game is a HALO killer because HALO which I really like is unique. just as Splinter Cell doesn't kill my favorite series - Metal Gear although I like Splinter Cell.

But for all of IGN's talk of pushing bounderies, they fail to mention Haze does break and set some new ones. The Co-op drop in drop out is quite an achievement. The best yet and a mark on the way this needs to work.

Also the cutscenes move in and out of the game quite well. No more set levels, just checkpoints through the entire game. The story which some have criticized beats several other recent military shooters with one gun behind it's back. The game is flawed for sure and perhaps I look more to what the game might have been but there is no denying I do not regret having spent the money or more importantly, my time. I am looking forward for some versus MP later tonight.

As I stated in a prior thread, the game doesn't hold up well on Easy or Normal. But as soon as you move to Hard the combat on foot comes into it's own. It has the frantic nature to it with just enough of an element of control. As in the demo, the Hardest level is locked likely until you complete the game once on Hard.

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nightmare452 - 580 days 12 hours ago

I think you might have convinced me to try this game (and by try, I mean buy).
I love FPS's, the last 6 reviews here in N4G have been 6 and 7s, not a 4.5 like IGN. One bad review might not be indicative of a game (heck, my ultimate proof, I liked Dark Messiah!)

The reason you convince me is your arguments, and the fact that your story could have been told by me if a had bought the game. I also played Army of Two and enjoyed it, but returned it in days; my favorite series is MGS, and I love Halo because of the 4 player coop, which finally Haze is the second game to feature that.

I might just buy the game today when I get out of work. Good job guys.

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Voiceofreason - 580 days 2 hours ago

Sony fans will hype any and every PS3 game to be announced as long as its exclusive. HS,Lair, and now Haze. All games said to be reason to own a PS3, and now look at how those games turned out. HS was the only decent one, and thats only because it ripped off so many other franchises.Check around at how many PS3 owners are talking about killzone2 as a reason to buy a PS3. They claim its a system seller already.. Why would they think that though? What proof do they have? The first one was not a good game, so it has a bad track record already. The only reason they are hyping it is because its an exclusive to Sony.I swear a game with Pong like graphics could be announced for PS3, and as long as it was exclusive it would be hailed as the greatest game ever created.

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VisibleSchlong - 581 days ago

It is hilarious that people just have become accustomed to reviewers trashing PS3 games and somehow are offended that IGN somehow went too far.

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juuken - 581 days ago

I'm not offended, but IGN has been giving PS3 games low scores as of late. If they're not within the 4.5 or 6.0 range, they're between the 8.0 and 9.0 range. I have yet to see them actually praise a game without being...idk douchebags?

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Kigmal - 580 days 23 hours ago

They are giving low scores maybe because those PS3 games actually suck? Did you ever stop and think that might be it? Oh no wait, you haven't.

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solidjun5 - 580 days 22 hours ago

and yet you don't think what you just wrote isn't invalid garbage. you didn't think about that did you?

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juuken - 580 days 21 hours ago

So, going by your logic Kigmal Resistance and Killzone are both bad shooters as well?

Don't talk if you don't own a PS3 kthnx.

You'll do everyone a huge favor.

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Amnesiac - 580 days 3 hours ago

Didn't realize that disagreeing with someone and explaining yourself is considered flaming/trolling.

I'm sorry that your psyche is as fragile as an egg. Mommy will tuck you in and read you a story later.

Oh, and for the record I do enjoy arguing with myself since I'm obviously a flamer and a troller. LOL. Nerds will be nerds.

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resistance100 - 581 days ago

Im picking it up also, simply because Gamestation have a 7day full refund return on all new games, so if it really is that bad, i will just take it back!

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juuken - 581 days ago

Do let us know. I'm not sure about buying it yet but if it's good, then I may give it a rental.

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Bubble Buddy - 581 days ago

take one for the team eh? Ahaha, u deserve a bubble for that :)

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Bazookajoe_83 - 581 days ago

Im expecting some good online and average campaign, i doubt haze is worse then conflict denied or turok.

But ill guess i have to wait and see.

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Breakfast - 581 days ago

Im not so sure it was a half-assed attempt...i think its a game that just went bad...lol.

They had a bunch of ideas, but it didnt all come together.

Edit: Hype should have nothing to do with a review. You should review a game based on its merits and other games of the same genre. Not because it didnt live up to some dudes hype.

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littletad - 581 days ago

Can be a factor in a review.

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actas123 - 581 days ago

Hype can be a factor when a fanboy does the reviewing. Even if a certain game did not meet the high expectation this doesn't give the reviewr a reason to kill the score. This is bullcrap if u ask me. Games should be rated according to what they offer not on hype and what have you. This game deserves more than a 7. Face it, IGN screwed up.

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RacingX - 580 days 9 hours ago

If hype is indeed a factor, why didn't Halo get slammed somewhat? The single player was mediocre, the graphics were no better than Gears or Bio. The multiplayer was good but we seen it in Halo2. Yet it was hailed as the second coming.....why?? Halo was a 6.5-7 /10 tops, but everyone gave it 9.5 & 10 BULL. Bioshock took a hit for not having multiplayer.....does every game NEED deathmatch?? Can't we just play a great single player experience? People said Uncharted was great but had no multiplayer. In Uncharted??? come on. Maybe a co-op mode but thats it. People complain that all these games today need deathmatch or multiplayer, yet I never see anyone playing the multiplayer in these games, except COD4, Halo, and sports games. Reviewers I think have lost the original point of games...they're GAMES, fun is the #1 factor. When I was a kid I loved monopoly, my sister hated it, not ALL games are for everyone. Why do you think the Wii is so popular???, why is Rock Band, guitar hero, DDR so popular??? THEY'RE FUN! IF you're having fun and enjoying your game, then mission accomplished for that game. Peace.

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RacingX - 580 days 7 hours ago

If you're going to disagree, at least respond. Am I getting disagrees because I ruffled someones feathers saying Halo isn't great??? Is another 12yr old mad? please don't take it out on live by yelling homophobic racial slurs about someones mom during a match thinking you're "too cool" because you're a level 620 trillion and everyone else is such a "noob" for you to "pwn"

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Jason 360 - 580 days 23 hours ago

There have been dozens of reviews now all pointing to the same thing, "Haze sucks" Of course pro playstation mags and sites will give it a high score. So... your game f**king sucks, get over it. What do you think b!tching about it here is going to magically change the game from "sucky to AAA", and will it suddenly just change the minds of "EVERYONE"?

Haze = Turd

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Fat Bastard - 580 days 23 hours ago

Jason 360 = poontard anushead cuntmuffin douchewaffle

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mightydog01 - 580 days 10 hours ago

Well i'm getting Haze and my buddys. And then I will give a review. jason360 you sounding very bitter why hate. just by reading your comment I can tell that your very bitter.....Whys that, Is it because mgs4 only coming on ps3 or R2 or Killzone2 and your just bitter because HAZE was multi then changed to ps3 only......LAIR was underrated and if you can take your blind specs off.....You can tell that microsoft is out to throw sh1t at the ps3 with there smear campaign by controling most of the media and web sites to fool you and gamers. Try and do some research then you get the bigger picture.

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mightydog01 - 580 days 21 hours ago

Well you do get average games on every console that includes the xbox360 and wii......But fanboys being fanboys they act like little kiddies......but there's great games like mgs4 then R2 then killzone 2 that are coming on great. Then theres little big planet bringing somthing new and different, like being creative' sounds very promising, plus other great games coming to the ps3.....You get good games and adverage games poor games on every type of console...So a game gets a low score why use it to smear the ps3 when its how you use the ps3 thats what counts.....This is free radical first game outing on the ps3 maybe there where other factors like haze was multi platform at first so they where using multi platform engine which effected how average it turned out....free radical will learn from there mistakes like every other company, and hopfully when timesplitters release they will use a ps3 engine to get the best out of it......like killzone2 and R2 engine thats my thoughts.

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THC CELL - 580 days 23 hours ago

judging a demo u thick clown
it was a unfinished game fool

anyways u are right its not better than call of duty 4 but this game is something different

love it or hate it your choice

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PoSTedUP - 580 days 23 hours ago

it cant compare to cod4, its too unique. their is nothing of its kind and thats were people are hateing on it, they are jealous that its only 4 sony...i can tell you that i am happy i went with my instincts, and the reviews are full of sh*T. the graphics suck? are the gunfights not extremely intence? is the online not good in any way? give me a break, this game sh*ted on halo all around....but the one sided reviews say other wise : ) (off to play some haze) and if you were thinking about getting this game....trust me ubisoft made a great 1.

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PoSTedUP - 580 days 23 hours ago

lol.....right...people hate too much.....haze is badass. Fing with reviews isnt going to stop sony. i gaurentee it.

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Closing - 580 days 23 hours ago

I think Halo is extremely overrated, and just plain boring, but Halo is 10 times the game Haze is if only for dialogue alone. Haze is the most retarded cliched parody of the western soldier I've seen. One that only those with grammar comparable to Postedup could enjoy.

By the way Postedup if the game is so damn good then where are you finding the time to make a million posts about it?

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PoSTedUP - 580 days 21 hours ago

i find the time cause its extremely important that my fello gamers do not miss this game for what a review says. you havent played it, its nothing like the demo. i was just playing it, i take breaks so i dont play it out all in one sitting. im not retarded, and i know when a game is good. i was having second thoughts after reading the reviews. but famitsu is always accurate, so i went with his review. its an awesome game, one of the more intence fps out there. im glad i bought it. but you know something is up when it gets a 4.5 as a review...thats just ridiculous. this game is the bomb. fo real

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Baka-akaB - 580 days 22 hours ago

i dont like haze neither , but you're full of crap ...
actually yes the demo isnt flattering to the game , later parts are actually far better .

Sure i till find the game sloppy and not awesome , and its their damn fault to begin with , pick an exciting level for your demo morons ...

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n00bPwner - 580 days 21 hours ago

lmfao. don't try and drag halo 3 down with the sh1t stain that is Haze and the PS3. Halo 3 is f*cking godly.

haters? die.

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n00bPwner - 580 days 16 hours ago

HAHAHAHAHAHA. owned.

Maybe that's why they decided to make it a PS3rd exclusive. They knew it would get CREAMED by true hardcore FPS games on xbox.

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n to the b - 580 days 1 hour ago

because didn't haze get unanimously poor reviews? ...and no one hears any of it, none of those mags come forward and say 'microsoft offered me $$ to score haze low'? no leaks whatsoever? do you see how this is ret@rded if you just think about it for a bit?

and then of course you might ask yourself, if microsoft were in the business of buying reviews, wouldn't it be enough/easier to just pad their own games reviews, rather than worrying about trying to lower their competitions' reviews?

if microsoft could truly buy ALL reviewers like that then they deserve their victory, that's some pretty impressive sh1t!

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