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"After reporting on the native rendering resolution of the Haze demo, some questioned my reasoning that the final game would sport the same resolution. This is despite there seldom being an example of a game's resolution differing from its demo. In visiting Free Radical's studio near Nottingham, creative lead Derek Littlewood confirmed our suspicions."
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Breakfast
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lol @ Free Radical...just delay it again....
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but seriously all the delays and now releasing it soo close to mgs4,its just one catastraphy after another
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1.3 - Quaz51 is RIGHT AGAIN.
Don't know why people keep doubting this guy. Actually, I have one good guess why.
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It is kinda funny that the whole community waits for one guy to tell them what resolution a game is running at.
What does it say if it's that hard to spot!
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1.5 - i knew that if radical released Haze past march they would shoot themselves in the foot
i wanted this game since november but i knew past may this game won't sell as well
why would they release the game between the 2 biggest hits of 2008? i still play cod4 quite a bit so i don't really need another shooter
and i'm sorry but i hate when devs don't put all the effort in games... and it would seem as far as i can tell from the haze demo that the grafx could've used more work, i mean what the heck it's 570p?? i think freaking halo3 started some bullcrap that is gonna be hard to end.. that's why i don't buy ports or mediocre games..
i think as ps3 owners we can agree that we want top of the notch games, and just so you don't hate i'll tell you what i do own
Resistance FoM
Warhawk
UT3
Heavenly Sword
Ratchet and Clank (great game)
Uncharted Drakes fortune
Grand Turismo
Guitar hero and about 7 psn games
i might still check out the game in the future but sadly if a dev can't even get 720p visuals it goes a long way to show how much they really cared about putting all their effort in accomplishing the best they could've, if someone disagrees which i know some will... tell me why and maybe i'll see some light into this game
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i don't think they were trying to rewrite the book on fps's. i'm sure it 's going to be a fun game with a good storyline. i think people pay too much attention to res and grafix. there is a bunch of good games coming with hi res and amazing grafix. they don't all have to be perfect. but if your not going to be perfect you had better make it fun to play and i'm sure this game nails that aspect.
besides what were you guys expecting anyways? this is free radical it's not like naughty dog made the game.
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their Creative lead didn't get the PR memo
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- 590 days 11 hours ago
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Someone will get fired...
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- 589 days 23 hours ago
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Meh. Better looking games on the PS3 run at higher native resolutions and run smoothly. You can't compare Haze to CoD 4. CoD 4 runs at a higher native resolution, runs at a higher framerate, and looks better to boot! There really is no excuse Free Radical. At the very least, they could have made the game look better and not as bland if they were going to stick with the lower native resolution.
-edit- If you disagree, say why. Give a logical reason por favor.
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CoD4 runs at 600p.
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Cod 4 looks a million times better, and runs at 60 frames. Free Radical is not very good at programming.
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That's higher than Haze, which runs at 576p at 30fps. CoD 4 runs at 600p native at 60fps (on consoles). As for why Free Radical didn't take the extra time to optimize, I have no idea. The game's geometry is basic as hell and doesn't look like it pushes any boundaries in terms of lighting or polygon counts so I have no idea why they'd only be able to run Haze at 30fps at 576p. Hell, the least they could do is add more lighting effects or post processing effects.
-edit- Again, if you disagree, comment why you disagree.
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okay....perhaps...there are many big big fighting sequences and other issues. No1 knows...so dont condemn them coz you played 5 lame minutes on 1 gay stage and think you know all about the game.
COD4 is amazing..but the scale of it isnt exactly booming.So just wait and see
Edit : Also...Haze has the option to play the entire campaign split screen.
Aside from the fact COD4 lacks ANY such feature(which was the biggest let down) As soon as you play split screen vs..The graphics turn to playstation 1 graphics. So theres another issue to think about.
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ok im getting less interested in Haze by the minute
at first i was jacked as hell for it because of Free Rad and the Famitsu score was excellent
but come on, this is getting ridiculous
unless the game gets good reviews from my favorite sites and mags im canceling my pre-order
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You know, I liked it when I read about it. Then came the demo. I admit, Oblivion and Gothic 3 kinda spoiled me when it comes to vegetation. If you can, start Oblivion at the best settings you can and go to the next tree you see. Look at the leafs. Look at screens from Gothic 3, or just stand next to a tree in-game and watch it. Now look at the Haze demo. The trees, especially the leafs (look at the palms in the beginning) look like 2D objects shaped to fit. Well, if you are assaulted by a group of enemies you won't care, but I feel this is a step back. Especially when they only had to do it for one console and had the extra time due to the delay. The overall gameplay may be solid (can't really tell from the demo) but the graphics disappointed me.
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6 - I dont get why the fanboys jump at haze because it isnt very good
its not a corner stone of the ps3 like MGS4 or resistance2/killzone2
its just a run of the mill FPS that happenes to be ps3 exclusive and we should be hyped for game because of the game not because of what platform its on IMO
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I prefer that 360 fanboys jump on Haze and ignore MGS4. Keeps the idiots away from MGS4 news which is always a positive.
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You mean the same way the Sony Fanboys jump all over NG2, Gears 2, Too Human and any other 360 news. How about you get those idiots to do the same. I can't stand to see 360 Fanboys in PS3 news just as much as I can't stand to see PS3 Fanboys in 360 news. If you are going to call it, call it both ways or don't call it at all.
On topic though, I did not hate the demo but it did not wow me either. Maybe another delay is needed to get it right.
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Nevermind. I see they are here proving your point.
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you were right deep. im sorry i ever doubted you :D
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:D As if you ever did
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This not looking good either way since its been delayed so many times I dont see why they didnt use that time to optimize this so called "engine" like some say its a rent at best.
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you better step your game up for Timesplitters 4 Free Rad (if you screw up Timesplitters, i will murder you......... emotionally)
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@Hub
are you kidding me? i love Timesplitters
many people care about TS- it was the best FPS series on PS2
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Same here.
I fear for Timesplitters... hold me.
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From what i hear free rad is working on the new star wars battlefront 3 game after Haze! now that is a game to get excited about! lets hope they dont screw that up cuz its one of my favorite series!
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Timesplitters owns Battlefront, IMO.
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The game still doesnt look very pleasing. You'll know that for sure.
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I opened my arms to Haze and pre-ordered it to do the whole EB trade it back in deal, and this is what I get?
Then again, Halo and the orange box both didn't look so hot and they were easily the two best FPS experiences I've had in the last couple of months, so this may not matter.
Still, outside of the famitsu review, nothing but bad news. Not good. I'm starting to shake my head in shame at these guys. Free Radical may become what Factor 5 did with Lair and that's a ruined reputation!
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This is gonna get really ugly once the trolls see this. Although I had a good laugh when I saw the final resolution, I think the last statement is very true for every game: Don't judge from one thing, judge from the whole experience.
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hmm, this resolution sounds ok, because the PS3 can do that resolution native (look on XMB display setting), it can't do any of these crap numbers like 520p, 640p etc (GTA IV, Dark Sector) native, that can be done on 360's hardware scaler. Software scaling just takes power away from running the games, and it also takes up a whole SPU, so why would Rockstar or the Dark Sector developers do that with the PS3?.
@DJ
hmm, interesting, yeah I think that might be true.
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13.1 - They possibly weren't using that SPU in the first place
And they might've had trouble learning a separate graphics API for the RSX, since they have more initial experience with DirectX on the 360's GPU. Code between the two APIs is impossible to mix without huge performance deficits.
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rofl @disagrees
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...really professor? really?
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1024x576 isn't SD, SD game are 640x480, Haze is 1024x576. it's 640 vs 1024
and yes Haze use software upscale in 720p
Haze use also AAx2 (not Halo3 for exemple)
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14 - Well he made a good point.
No one really cares about the resolutions of game like COD4 and Halo 3, so I'm not sure why this is a big deal. I did find it surprising though that PS3 has software-based upscaling, in addition to the hardware upscaler (which only upscales horizontally).
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Actually, people didn't care about CoD 4 as that was multiplatform. People cared about the Halo 3 resolution though, as much as people care about the Haze resoultion.
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Many people complained about Halo 3 resolution is because it was a first party game and they had all dev kits available, Haze is 3rd party, I doubt that Free Radical were even using the full power of RSX, the Burnout developers confirmed that in a podcast.
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why does ps triple fail at making p's?
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Sigh. Here they come. You know, I could point at the worst 360 game and ask why the 360 has crappy graphics. But to do that would be unfair and biased. Sigh. Fanboy logic. It boggles the mind and frustrates the sane.
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gta4 was missing P's too is the problem, why does xbox get more P's? PS3 has CELL and BLURAY it should have lots of P's IMO
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Why cant the Xbox 360 produce Photo-realistic graphics? Ala Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, or CGI graphics like Killzone 2?
Fanboy Logic is just ridiculous.
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If you have no intentions to play this game please STFU and go troll in the 360 news or in the Open Zone.
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dont be angry
maybe they can patch in some extra Ps for hAZE
send HAZe devs very angry emails until they give you more P
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"Why cant the Xbox 360 produce Photo-realistic graphics? Ala Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, or CGI graphics like Killzone 2?"
i would've thought the answer to that question was obvious! both games you've mentioned have both been in production for an eternity, and both run on top notch game engines! both game engines have been built and optimised effectively! and both have had shed loads of cash invested.
the game engines in question, one racing, and one fps will probably be the best of this generation. it's not proven that the 360 could'nt run those games, just that no 360 dev has crafted game engines that match those two.
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Jenzo
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"The decision to make upcoming FPS Haze a PS3 exclusive has enabled it to "maximises the potential of the PS3", according to developer Free Radical Design."
"Littlewood explained the decision: "At Free Radical we've always had a good history with PlayStation hardware. If you look all the way back to the European launch of the PS2, we had TimeSplitters coming out as a PS2 exclusive then. Ever since then we've always worked well with PlayStation hardware. And so when it came to Haze it was an obvious decision to make. Our coders were enjoying working with the PS3 and it seemed a good decision. As a developer it's always nice to be able to focus on making one thing great rather than spreading your efforts. So we were pleased to have the opportunity to focus purely on PS3."
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"Yes. Well, as you develop an engine you’re aiming for a certain thing, but as all the pieces slot into place, you end up realising what sort of resolution you can run it at and that’s where we ended up with for Haze."
Lazy developers?
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they probably ran into a few problems- lets hope they know the PS3 architecture better now and utilize said experience for TS4
because if that runs at sub-HD resolutions as well, imma go medieval on their inbox
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wtf?! what are you talking about
i never said you couldn't and yes it would bother me
stop attacking me for saying i want TS4 to look good kid
@Jenzo
i wish, it pains me to think that Free Rad could screw up like this
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They might have different dev teams for Haze & Timesplitters 4, just like Infinity Ward & Treyarch.
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1.4 - Now here is a game that could of used the full potential of the ps3...
It could of been great advertising for owning a ps3, Yet its just a regular generic shooter...when it comes to xbox 360 I think I might even pass on this and ut3 as well...i mean...how much better can it be if the ps3 cant bring out the bells and whistles that being a exclusive title should bring to a console.
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I think everyone is mostly upset or pissed off because of this news and what was said by FR in the past, all the delays and excuses for them to not pull of better resolutions I mean WTF. You posted what they have been saying and now everyone expected more from the game even if its something this minor. If the game wouldn't have taken so long to come out or they would have kept their mouths shut about why it was being delayed we would have less people being upset. Its not really that its not 720p native but the fact that after everything they said everyone expected great quality in every aspect. Sure the game might look great after the final version is released but just this news seems to make FR sort of liers in a way. Hopefully the demo was an old build (I wish we could have gotten confirmation on this as well) and the hard copy will be noticeably better in many aspects. BTW I enjoyed the demo.
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ROFL, if you want a game that is going to show the PS3's full potential, then you would want to think Killzone 2.
KZ2 is really pushing the FLEXiO interface of the PS3 architecture, you honestly think Haze would do that aswell?
Everyone knows the PS3 is obviously more powerful then when a developer say's they are going to max out the PS3, then it's referring to more sales.
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The developers said this, not me. There are already games out, like Drakes fortune for example, that show the PS3's potential.
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The developers said this, not me. There are already games out, like Drakes fortune for example, that show the PS3's potential.
Drake`s fortune, Ratchet and clank, Resistance and Hot shots golf. Are all first party and all 720p. Oh and look brilliant also.
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Right chill out.....Its free radical first outing on the ps3....So they are not well up on it yet like insomniac and naughty dog.....Fanboys are judging it about hd...Then spinning it saying its crap then halo must be crap.Lets wait till we hear about it first before condemming it.....Its got 2 good reviews about it so far.....I'm goner wait till more reviews come in, and if its good I'm goner pick Haze up cause of the story+ 4 player co-op and multiplayer its pretty tempting with my buddys playing 4 player co-op plus online multiplayer.......
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Don't compare Haze with resistance 2 or killzone 2. I am not really looking for high detail texture in this game but fun factor. As long as game is fun to play, i don't mind spending 60 bucks until mgs4 hits. Sometime game could have so much fun factor without good graphics. Beside, it has okay graphic just not superior. It is little let down indeed but like i said, it could be fun to play.
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PoSTedUP
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haze demo was an old build, i seen it awile back. 720p still looks good, what about the poeple who dont have hd? it wouldnt matter to them, an the majority is the people with out hd, cause blu-ray dvds are down to less than 1 per console. so to the majority, its not gunna matter.
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This game is ONLY possible on PS3.
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LMFAO
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probably, considering "the xbox 360 reached its graphical limits".
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He's GetPwned, what will you expect from him? rofl
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haze is gunna be good no matter what rez. i seen the gameplay, ive played a demo made the beginning of last year, i am convinced that they did a good job with it. killzone2 looks good and they still have 9 1/2 more months to work on it
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yess sirr
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actual games to play. only possible on 360.
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yeah seeing its only on ps3 lol
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if you really have a 50 inch screen, back away from it, like it was meant to be looked at you idiot.
i love how he says cod4 was blurry and chunky, if that game wasn't good enough for you then maybe you should just wait for the next gen. crybaby.
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you didn't see people jumping off of building when Halo was only in the 600's. Get over it and play the game to determine it worth.
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themyk
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man i have never seen so many jackazz little girls in all my life.
you act like everything needs to be perfect. cod4 was a great game that looked great. if it's under 720 but still looks good whats the f ing deal. are you playing this game so you can stare at the fukcing grass, and trees? no your playing it to have fun. it doesn't seem like you idiots understand the meaning of playing games. all you do is say this looks better than that. my console is far superior to yours. bla bla bla. games are supposed to be fun, and if it makes you so crazy that it's not "true" hd then don't buy the damn thing.
im done with you people. you get me sick.
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Well I hope that it says 576p on the back. If im going to ignore the fact that it isnt hd, then FR should show some honesty. fair enough?
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