HAZE to have 4GB install

ELite_Ghost - 152 days 6 hours ago

they can just upgrade their hardrive for like 100$ for 250gigs

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red_ring_of_death - 152 days 6 hours ago

i had a 20g now its a 200g i paid $90

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OnslaughtX - 152 days 6 hours ago

Indeed. These mandatory installs are sloppy and we just don't have the space for them. Time to upgrade my PS3 HDD, and I have a 60gb.

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sonarus - 152 days 6 hours ago

I would handle a 4GB install if it was a game i really really wanted.

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GutZ31 - 152 days 6 hours ago

Screw Haze, its not fun enough to spend an hour installing to the freaking hard drive.

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Dannagar - 152 days 6 hours ago

I have a PS3 with a 20 gig hard drive. However, any game I've had to install, I've just deleted after I was done. I use it mostly for PS2 games though.

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Mu5afir - 152 days 5 hours ago

I never understood why people are outraged, the install is game data not "game saves". How many games does one person play at any given time? It's a no brainier to remove any game data that is not being used, and re-installing it later if you want to play again. 20gb is more then enough space for games if managed properly.

But if you want to store multi-media videos etc.. u should upgrade.

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Bladestar - 152 days 5 hours ago

Correction: Common on the PS3 and not on the xbox 360... Now I don't blame this primarity on the PS3... since there are other alternatives used in other PS3 games like stream loading... but the fact that the PS3 always have a hard drive, I can see why developer have the option of taking the easy way out... on on the xbox 360 they have no choice...

I personally hate game installs... and I always though it was the benefit over PC...

forbit I need to go to gamestop and asked them to let me play the game first (like I do sometimes) and I have to wait for the game to install; that if the gamestop guy let's me or have enough harddrive space... not to mention that if I want to take the game to my friend.. I have to install it...

I said it before... this will be a trend for the PS3.. since it remove the needs of developer doing the extra work... it's obvious.. just like the need of compression... if blu-ray allows developer to not need to compress game data... and the hard drive allow them to install some of these uncompressed data... then why do it?

here is an example...

if a game level is compressed to be 100MB instead of 500MB on the xbox 360 due to disc space restriction... but that restriction do not exist on the PS3 then the developer will simply leave the file at 500MB...

now the only problem would be loading.... the xbox 360 drive may not be faster as some argue than the PS3 blu-ray drive... but the blu-ray drive is not faster then the xbox 360 drive... but the difference is that the PS3 drive needs to read 500MB and the xbox 360 only 100MB...

what developers do? Install some if not all the 500MB on the PS3... in order to balance out fact that the PS3 drive needs to read more...

easy way out...

people can say wherever they want about blu-ray being better for this gen.... but you just don't make the container bigger and leave the pipes the same.... things would be a lot better for the PS3 if the blu-ray drive on the PS3 can read 500MB as the same speed the xbox 360 can read 100MB.... but that's not the case...

No wonder Sony didn't make the PS3 hard drive an addon like they did with the PS2... That would be a disaster.... with all the required installs... if this happened on the PS2 or any console or device like the PSP memory sticks... this would cost a lot of money if you own more than 4 games.

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joe382 - 152 days 4 hours ago

I really hate mandatory installs. I have 3 gigs left now on my 40gb hard drive. I have no demos or psn games, its just filled up with installs. I have had to delete several installs to play newer games. Extremely angry that Haze needs a 4gb install. Im sorry but if COD4 doesnt need install god knows why an inferior game in every aspect to COD4 does.

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solidt12 - 152 days 4 hours ago

I had a 20 gig but upgraded to a 250 gig.

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CrazzyMan - 152 days 3 hours ago

I love consoles, because you have just put disc in a console and then PLAY.
No installs like on PC.

No, i don`t have problem with instaling 4-5GB for 10-20 min., it`s NOT really a BIG problem, BUT it`s not how it meant to be.

I really hope, in 2009 there won`t be coming games, that require install on PS3 and will have no downloads, just like Uncharted.

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cmd5150 - 152 days 1 hour ago

I'm not opposed to mandatory installs. I'm all for a game working properly right out of the box. The installations really don't take that long (unless it's Devil May Cry).

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thewhoopimen - 152 days 1 hour ago

bladestar, you're actually making alot of sense today instead of straight up flaming. bubbles for you on the educated response.

The only thing I'd probably add to your statement is that while I agree with you that developers are taking the easy way out, it doesn't mean they will be doing so forever. Eventually even the 50gb wall is going to be hit at with the PS3 and then, compression will have to be utilized at that point. However, we're talking 2-3 years down the line. Also, my take on it is eventually, they will probably want to take advantage of streamloading as well as hd loading combined in the future. Having 2 drives working is always better than 1.

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juuken - 152 days ago

I agree Mu5afir. I finished Ninja Gaiden Sigma and didn't feel like playing mission mode so I deleted the game file to make room for more stuff.

Some people...lulz.

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permutated - 152 days 7 hours ago

The fanboys are at work again, disagreeing with perfectly valid statements about a growing problem.

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Silellak - 152 days 7 hours ago

Did you mean 20 gig, or 40 gig?

Because the first two PS3's SKU's were 20 gig and 60 gig. It's the 20 giggers that are likely to feel the burn first.

Though, depending on how common this is, the 40 giggers may not be too far behind them.

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madness - 152 days 7 hours ago

how sucky

at least u can upgrade ur hd really easily and at a lower cost than the 360

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clintos59 - 152 days 7 hours ago

If it helps with pop up issues and makes the game run at a good frame rate then it isnt a problem for me. I just think some of these devs are still working there way around the ps3 and will find a way to fix these problems sooner or later but for now I dont mind as long as I get to play the game. I wont have to worry about this game though because from the demo I played I wasnt very wowed by it so I think I am going to skip this game maybe buy it later if I hear that it is alot of fun from others.

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RacingX - 152 days 6 hours ago

I bought the 20gig PS3 because I didn't want all the memory card reader junk, wi-fi etc. A year later I went to circuit city for $85 and 7 minutes of my time it magically became a 160gig PS3. You don't HAVE to keep the installs on there either, you can erase them when you finish the game. Not arguing, just saying.

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deeznuts - 152 days 6 hours ago

I bought a launch 20 gig. Been meaning to replace it with a bigger one, but haven't had to yet. I play a game, install it, beat it, delete it. Next.

Piratethom, only the outer edges of DVD's are remarkably faster than BLuray, which have a constant read speed throughout the disk.

Guys, developers taking advantage of the HD. We are complaining? You want 80GBs of just tiny little game saves? Yeah I know, music and videos, but it is a game console. Use the HDD for games, to it's advantage.

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boodybandit - 152 days 5 hours ago

It has nothing to do with people being fanboys as to why they are disagreeing with you. They are probably just as tired as I am of hearing people complain about installs. Most don't care that they have to install games to their hard drive. When you are done with the game you simply delete the install. It's not like you lose your save files if you ever want to play the game again down the road. Install info and save info is in different folders on the PS3.

I almost never go back to a game once I am done with it. Besides if you are one of those people that don't want to delete an install simply purchase a bigger hard drive. They are easy to install and inexpensive. I have a 250gig drive in my PS3 which cost -$100.

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permutated - 152 days 4 hours ago