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One the most anticipated games of the year is Grand Theft Auto IV. Almost all of the reviews for it have been perfect. The question is will anyone have the balls to say what is wrong with this game? The Checkpoint does.
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toughNAME
- 592 days 20 hours ago
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I hate reviewing open world games...that's why
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- 592 days 18 hours ago
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I love the the driving and the story is solid. This guy fails at being critical on GTA4. How about saying the graphics should be better, more destrutible enviroments, better controls, and the ability to enter all buildings.
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My biggest problem with the driving is when you wreck and go flying out the windshield. How about giving us an option to put on our seatbelt? That can disable that feature. I don't like that part at all. And the police chases are way too hard because of this issue. You just can't drive as crazy as you want to.
The game is okay but I haven't really got into it as much as I did with the other GTA games. When I got San Andreas I played it for months and hardly touched another game. And I didn't even finish the game. It was just a lot more fun to run around in.
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- 592 days 8 hours ago
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1.3 - seatbelts...
yeah... the fact that they aren't an option gets me caught by the Po-po a lot. Coulda been a pretty cool execution mission. Make sur you have your seatbelt fastened but your target doesn't, slam on the brakes at high speeds.
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There's too much driving in a GRAND THEFT AUTO game?
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- 592 days 18 hours ago
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This is my first GTA (first console since SNES), and there is a bit of driving, sometimes it is tedious but what you gonna do? gotta do the drive. The driving part of GTA isn't the fun part, it's the Grand Theft part and other mayhem.
Hey just like I discovered the first time I ate there, if you can have a Souplantation that featured Salad and not Soup, why not Grand Theft Auto without too much auto? ;)
I am hooked on the game now though, once I stopped being so dang law abiding and just mucked everything up!
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all based on opinion. i personally enjoy the game, while overhyped it still a lot of fun
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- 592 days 19 hours ago
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GTAIV has a huge problem. But I am probably one of the few that have experienced it.
I failed a story mission, and cannot redo it via text message, or reisiting the NPC. He won't answer my phone calls and he is not available to restart the mission. 31 hours in I have to restart the game to finish the story.
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etownone
- 592 days 16 hours ago
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WHAT?
please tell me your kidding
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I've actually heard of that happening before. Maybe excessive use of cheats?
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5 - Honestly this shows how corrupted the industry has become....
GTA4 is a master piece of a game everyone gave it 10 but it isn't a 10 game. Their are things that the game does but doesn't do right. Example the cover system is very awkward its good to have it to say you have it but it could be improved or cut out. The fighting is another one. The online is terrible, it is the perfect example of what ppl were saying about Condemned 2, of how they just add a multiplayer mode in just so they can say we have a multiplayer mode. Then the issues with freezing up. You're telling me all these reviewers played this game and overlooked alot this stuff. If thats the case they should loose their jobs.
No one who reviewed it found it kind of frustrating that you could do a mission thats broken up into several parts, like get a car, drive there, take this, kill him, get home, sometimes a mission like that can take 10 min. then if you catch some stray bullet at the very end you have to start all the way from the beginning. I remember the reviewers tore Dead Rising a new one for the same thing but GTA4 got a 10. The 10s are the problem, 9.0 9.5 I can see but the way they were giving out 10s just lets you know they didn't even review the game. Its a great game I just think they were to loose with the praise.
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- 592 days 19 hours ago
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i agree with everything you said
it is overhyped
in my opinion vice city is still the best grand theft to date
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5.2 - Reviewers are fanboys too
You have to realize that maybe the hype got to the reviewers as well. I don't get the chance to play all the games that I would like. So maybe if you review a bunch of games one that has the hype and has top notch story, voice acting, and legacy might influence your judgment. Reviewers are not GOD they are people. If you take their opinion as gospel then that's your fault. Buy what you want, play what you love, give up the hate and enjoy the golden age of video games.
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BrianC6234
- 592 days 18 hours ago
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Maybe Rockstar can just redo Vice City and San Andreas for the PS3 and 360. I'd like to see what they look like with better graphics. And throw in online too.
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- 592 days 19 hours ago
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you dont know how much work they put in this game to make it realistic do you? have you noticed that the reflection off cars reflects every thing in real time every were you go exactly how its presented at every angle? take in mind how big the city is, that takes alot of work and is pretty impressive to me. realistic=driving, shooting, Fing mostly everything if you think about it, the story was gangsta in my opionion, their for it was awesome and exciting. just a reminder this game was not for kids hence the title and being more realistic/graphic then ever. this is actually an adult perspective of being fun. not all games are perfect, then again not all games are for kids. rock starr was going for more of an adult view of a game and i think they did a good job of pleasing the adult audience. screw critics all games have flaws. if its that bad, then return it, mine froze a bunch of times, it didnt bother me considering it was a bad a$$ game. you just cant please every 1 can you. i wonder how rock starr feels hearing this stuff after puting a lot of effort into a masterpiece. and wile playing the online, i was at the edge of my seat. so dont hate. i hope rock starr dumbs the next 1 down and shows you people what a real complainable game is. (wile making alot of money off of it)
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- 592 days 18 hours ago
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6.1 - Rockstar should be proud....
Its not Rockstar anyone hs an issue with its the reviewers. If they would have given me the honest review of this game I would have still bought it. Rockstar did a wonderful job with this game they deserve all the success they receive. The issue is that the media that we are suppose to trust to be non biased truthful have just shown they are not.
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6.2 - So what?
dude for all the things GTA did good and dont get me wrong they did do them good! some of the previous games had a lot more features and things to do.. the multi-player is good for killing time but thats it... im only about 50% done the game and i havent played it in like almost a week now.. i think i might even be trading it in very soon.. i mean its a good game but not a 10/10... im sure everyone here has heard this before but it really does just feel like the same GTA game as always but with better graphics and physics... nothing new.. nothing mind blowing..
i cant help but wonder that something was holding it back.. *cough* DVD9 *cough* but anyways it really was overhyped... IMHO and i was really really disappointed in the end
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- 592 days 17 hours ago
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GTA games aren't popular because they're realistic. They're popular because they're fun. I don't care that much about graphics really. I never had a problem with the PS2 GTA games. They looked fine. They were a lot of fun. This game isn't that fun to me so far. I haven't played much of it yet but I had more fun playing San Andreas. And Vice City. Even GTA III.
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i agree. I got it when i came out and i already don't care to put more time into it. I'm waiting until June 6hrs, MGS, and ill trade it in.
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yall sound like kids to me, this game isnt for you then. fun? this is an adult game, no time for fun,its a time for rawness which it holds, kids would not understand.
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The Closing
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GTA is a game for kiddies who are affected by that low mentality wanna be video game gangsta syndrome.
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- 592 days 19 hours ago
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7 - There is notrhing wrong with GTA IV.
Get over it GTA haters and go back to playing halo 3 which is now only the SECOND best selling game ever.
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- 592 days 19 hours ago
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Halo 3 is far from being the second best selling game ever, and GTA4 is not the best selling game ever either.
On the 360 Halo 3 still holds the title for best selling game though.
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Yes...though it's odd that it took a game released of both systems to break the record and even then only slightly. Quit being stupid.
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- 592 days 19 hours ago
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8 - what are u talking about
if u dont cover in gta 4..... u die. cover is a must and the fighting is actually really good its like actual fighting.
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- 592 days 19 hours ago
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yea man, what gta allows you to do the spinning back fist? and if the cover system sucks, then gears isnt as good as you people say it is. GETaLIFE...lol cmon u no were thats from. thats rock starrs message to all you haters...hahaha bit*hes!! you just got owned!
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- 592 days 19 hours ago
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i've never been a GTA fan, so thank god i rented this one.
judging by the reviews i was convinced i was going to like it, but aside from the graphics NOT being a 10 like most reviewers said they were, the gameplay is repetitive, the drving isn't that great, and contolling Niko isn't that great either.....although the story is interesting and funny so far.
but i can see why people like it. I'm only 18%, so I plan to go at least 40% to make a true judgement call on whether to keep it or return it.
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- 592 days 19 hours ago
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chill. im at 30% and all it does is get better and better....if your a youngsta then you wouldnt appreciate it as much as i would, but you make the call
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- 592 days 19 hours ago
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haha... well, i'm 32, so i'm definitely not a youngster.
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- 592 days 17 hours ago
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9.3 - I have to agree with you on the graphics....
i was and still continue to be let down by the graphics...on that note..we as gamers know what we are getting into when we play a gta type game...the repetitive missions...the humor...but where gta4 hits the mark is with the extra incentives that are peppered into the game...the racing..the hits...the internet cafe...stand up comedy...and the small jokes...like the beer billboards with a woman hovering over a bottle or the billboard with a woman getting squirted with 4 water bottles...im 26% into the game and will continue into it....i wont get 100% because those pidgeons are hidden pretty well but i am enjoying the game none the less.
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- 592 days 4 hours ago
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wow etown you make me look like a youngster....
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- 592 days 19 hours ago
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I prefer Vice City much, much more. The control is atrocious in GTA4 and don't get me started on the terrible music. Don't get me wrong, I'd probably give this game an 8.5 out of 10 (which is still pretty good), but it's far from perfect. The story line is great and the voice acting is better than I've heard in any game I've ever played. The good outweights the bad. My friends play online but the control scheme is unbearable. I'm not saying these things to be controversial, but it's the flat out truth. I know what I like and I'm not really liking GTA4.
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- 592 days 18 hours ago
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11 - What can ya do?
It's true that maybe some critics jumped on the 10-train and assigned perfect reviews, but I mean reviews are subjective opinions. That's what happens. It happened with Galaxy a while back. I think both GTA4 and Galaxy definitely have flaws in the game but the pros far outweigh the negatives.
I mean, the core gameplay of drive / beat people up / shoot hasn't changed since GTA3, so you sorta know what to expect with this game. Criticizing all the driving missions seems sorta pointless.
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BrianC6234
- 592 days 17 hours ago
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One guy gave Super Mario Galaxy an 11 out of 10. How lame is that? I'm to the point I really just ignore scores now anyway. I like GTA IV but like a lot of other people it isn't perfect. And it isn't my favorite GTA game. I bought it though and I'll keep playing it. Maybe it will get better the more I play. I'm not even very far into it yet.
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12 - I'm kind of agreeing with this guy
First of let me say that I think its a great game, I'm only about 23% and I really like it so far. The multiplayer is good too, I can kind of see where people are coming from when they say that they just added it in cause I would have like to see a lobby feature where you can see which games have how many people cause it ends up putting me in games with 2 or 3 people alot of the times.
There are two things that bother me alot, this first ofcourse is the driving, its okay and I've gotten used to it but the brakes and turning on those cars suck big time. Second is the lack of saving mid mission.
A good is example is Manny's first mission where you have to follow this guy and take out the dealers he is meeting with. The guy takes forever to get to the warehouse and when I got there I ran in and died. Everytime I died I had to do the whole driving part all over again. That just sucks the fun right out of the game, however it does alot of the other stuff right and it's still a great game, but an 8.8 or 9.0 not a 10.
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13 - Hate is inevitable...
When any thing receives as much praise as GTA IV, of course there will be those oh too willing to say "it's overrated"...Yawn...This guy says GTA has problems but with the exception of the glitches, every single one of them was his worthless opinion...
The story line flows just fine, but it seems that everyone has forgotten that every GTA has had filler missions...I couldn't wait to see what happens next, and no cut scene (save for the opening sequenc) last more than 5 minutes and that's a stretch...
I had a blast with all the side activities except darts...I find the driving to be pretty intuitive...Or maybe he just sucks at this game and I don't...
The online is actually a lot of fun if you know what you're doing and, again, don't suck...
Do I think the game is a 10? Nope...9, yes but that's because of the lack of mid-mission check-points...If you restart a mission then you should start with what you had when you started the last time...What's the point of a limited window of opportunity to redo the mission if you have to run all over town getting re-outfitted...And that's my biggest, 1 point deducting complaint...(I don't do .5's)...
Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but when you're trying to say that you have "the balls" to call a game out, at least have it be objective...
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No one wanted to be the first site to end the "10 streak".
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San Andreas >
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17 - talk about nitpicking....
you can easily take a cab to your missions and objectives. hence you dont even have to drive unless the mission requires it. second the story. if anything the story is much better in GTA4. there is alot of character development although i agree u meet alot of characters that are irrelevant to the overall main story, i cant name a single gta where all the characters where relevant. as for the cell phone well its a nice little extra, something unexpected. your really nitpicking hard. i have yet to play a game without some sort of glitch. mini games are just that, minigames. like em or not they are not a gamebreaking flaw. does gta 4 deserve perfect scores? no. is it the best game i played this gen? yes it is.
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smh it sickens me reading all this hate about GTAIV. This game is sublime, please please pleaseeeeeeeeeeee tell me wtf is so good about Vice where ur able to put it over San let alone IV?!?! U kno what im glad ppl like ya exist in the world. I really pray R* never realease another GTA game ever again. Yea im kinda upset cuz never once inmy life have i seen a developer go so hard into developing a title for gamers and see so much unappreciation. If u can honestly play this game and see why it didnt deserve a 10 then thats all the reason that no one here a an actual reviewer. One user up there said the driving was bad because u cant drive around superfast like used to be able to. WHAT?!?!?! this is GTA...IV!! for next generation. Just becuz u SUCKED at the driving (which i masterrrrrrrrrred), dont get upset there isnt an easy button to make it betta for u. This game was based upon realistic simulation. Why dont u try gettin into a REAL car and gunniny it down the road at 95mph and see what happens. Yes, GTAIV is sublime in every-single-way. Hype or not this is the best game i have ever played in my lifeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, i can safely say that if i had a choice to keep one game and play it forever i wouldnt giv this title a second guess. a 10 does not mean perfect...no its a reflection of a foundation in a eveolution. This is the 1st, sandbox open world true next generation game. It conquered its genre as no other game seem to have done so far. It has elements of allllllll genre's in its own game and can be broken down and compared to other games in other genres. This is the epitome of a virtual simullation (video game) today. I want ppl to continue to decipher and break down the reasons why GTAIV "fails" and is "overhyped" becuz ppl like ya exist everywhere no matter how amazing a game is.But Ill desist, forgive my spelling and my outburts but we all have a breaking point. Im not gonna sit here and go through the things that are wrong wit IV, as ive seen ya took care of that lil task yaselves. Just becuz YOUR copy freezes doesnt mean EVERYONE else's does. so how bout you rate UR GTAIV, not the worlds cuz mine is perfectly fine and if it did freeze continously ill happily purchase another or do w/e it took to subjugate the problem. "i hate the way he walks...." WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!? im sure the person who wrote that found that SNL skit hilarious right? yea dont answer. Disagree all u want, in fact ill be surprised if my disagrees dont exceed 25. Then ill kno i aint waste my time. (Unpauses GTAIV)
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I think the cars drive just find. I get a rush when getting chased by the police. Even when I crash and have to go at it on foot. And as far as getting sick of driving. One word...TAXI.
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20 - If a game site isn't giving you a break down
then it's not being totally honest. Instead they are giving you an awesomeness review not a gauge of the game against industry standards. How can one good feature make up for a short coming? Kane and Lynch looked good but that sure as hell didn't make up for the gameplay.
GTA IV should have gotten low marks in graphics, even I gave it to good a review in graphics in retrospective. I wasn't aware it wasn't 720p at the time....but let me give you an example
GT5 and MGS for the PS3 push the console to the max 1080p at 60fps...theres is a clear cut bar set there, and it's set as high as possible for the console.
So the fact GTA IV wasn't 1080p shaves a point off of graphics. The fact it wasn't 720p should shave another off since that is bare minimum for HD. Then you have the grid of dots that pops up in place of shadows and the rain slicked pavement effect that pops up on grass every once in a while.
Now mind you the whole excuse we were given why games shipped with bugs on the PC was because of no standard hardware configuration. So what's the excuse now?
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im seeing a lot of people in denial about how average this game really is.
don't get swept along by hype, make you own decision.
You do not have to like a game just because its hyped.
7/10 for me, its just not as good as it should have been.
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etownone
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i agree with you.
the game is good (not great), but in no way the best game of all time
(if you go by reviews)
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I think the game is too easy, personally. It's been a while since I've played the old GTA's but I remember them being more difficult. You can plow cops in this game and not even attract attention. I have yet to get busted by the cops and I'm 60% thru the game. I've also yet to die on any mission that I went in with full health and armor. Sometimes I go in with half health and no armor just for a challenge.
I don't understand why they made it so easy.
Other than that, and some horrible camera angles at times, the game is great.
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The Closing
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He didn't even begin to scratch the surface of what's wrong with this game.
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I think that giving this game 10/10 is way overboard, but I think that 9/10 seems more reasonable.
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GTA4 is a lot of fun but the graphics are kind of weak in my opinion, I have seen better, but it makes up for those with great online, its fun... was it a 10 no for me it's 9
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26 - As far as graphics...
Please, by all means, point me in the direction of an open world game that thats THIS much going on that has better graphics? None of the GTAs have been representative of a systems capabilities in terms of photo realism...But when you have this much going on at all times, these graphics are actually quite amazing. But when GTA starts becoming about graphics over gameplay, then that's when I stop playing.
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TheEndzor
- 592 days 20 hours ago
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This game was reviewed with Hype in mind
a great example of this is Halo
Dont get me wrong GTA4 is a fantastic game but imo it should a 9/9.5 out of 10
No game deserves a 10
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The only ones I see complaining are the Nintendo fanbabies because R* can't port it to their ancient console.
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3.1 - You have both versions....
I value honesty and can you tell me how many multiplayer games have you played on the ps3..problems..how many people are in the rooms...ect..I have played more then 10 games with full rooms and the occasional stutter of characters and warping happen sometimes on the 360.....im just curious because I have seen many ps3 owners say the game is the best on the ps3 but if your only getting half the game as in only single player how can it be considered the best...we have seen reports of wonky multiplayer for ps3.
@rocko...dude...if you have both versions whats holding you back on just trying it ..even playing with people you dont know is better then nothing.
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i have the game on both systems as well. i have not tried the multiplayer on either system, been too busy with the single player.
for the most part all this talk about them being different and one better then the other is bull S£5t..
i have ran them both at the same time on my 40" hdtv with the same channel settings. The biggest difference is with the colors and lighting.
i get frame rate issues with my ps3 copy, but i think its more to do with my old 60gig ps3. i have heard it does not run as good as it does on the 40gig models.
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The game is boring.. I still havent played past taking michelle on a date.. I was bored to tears.. Once I was done dropping the Girl off.. I felt as if I already played the game before.. Oh wait I have.. all the other GTAs that play exactly the same way with no new features ever..
The only way I made this game fun was.. Online, Friends only, and Scooter racing.. That is hilarious
Game sucks
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