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PS3 No Letdown, Kotaku is Wrong

No, no, no! When Hideo Kojima said the MGS4 graphics on the PS3 weren't to his "satisfaction" or that he realized there were lots of "restrictions" the PS3 posed, he didn't mean it. He was just trying to be humble, you know! He's not disappointed with the PS3 at all. He is totally happy with it. The PS3 is awesome. Says Kojima:

On the internet, there's stuff saying "Hideo Kojima" isn't satisfied with the PS3. I'd like to talk about that today. I just got back from Paris and did 15 interviews and everyone asked me about it, did I say that. The meaning of what I said has totally been changed, made totally different. Today, I'd like to talk about that. Why did it turn into that? When I'm doing an interview, I answer in Japanese, and I can't control how the writer will interpret that into English... What I say is then translated in English, and the writer then changes that into their own words and writes that. So, right there, the meaning of what I say changes a lot.
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1 BilI Gates | 593 days 6 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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sonarus - 593 days 6 hours ago
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Seriously speaking kotaku needs to try a little harder to not sound so anti PS3
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v1c1ous - 593 days 6 hours ago
1.2 - did you guys read the article?
dot dot dot
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jwatt - 593 days 6 hours ago
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"The next time I interview in America, I will just say "MGS4 is the best, the end."

lol
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Marceles - 593 days 6 hours ago
1.4 - Such a good example...
"Let's say this developer is making hardware, in this case a game, and that hardware is at the level of a car. And when looking at the specs, the developer claims the car is able to fly. Now there is no stopping when you say, "This is a car that can fly." When you claim that it can fly, the speculation grows from "oh so it can FLY?!!!" And the developer would set his goals higher. The specualtion is that if the car flies, then it should reach a MACH speed...but it doesnt stop there...it'd go beyond the specualtion of then "it should go into space!" with all the excitement around, and the developer would go deeply into making the car going into space... however, he'll come up to the public and say the car reaches the MACH speed, but it fails to go into the space. But he shouldn't give up, because for a car to even reach a mach speed and go into air is revolutionary. I wished to convey my thoughts like that, but I guess it didn't work very well."
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Varsarus - 593 days 6 hours ago
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but even if he is disappointed, he said they were restrictions...., meaning that Sony have only given him a few major features of the PS3 tech.
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gambare - 593 days 6 hours ago
1.6 - of course kotaku tried to turn this as a bad thing
kojima weren't satisfied with his work like EVERY artist, even if at the eyes of everyone is perfect (like MGS4) but at his eyes there's always a "If I could do this or have something there"

true masters are never satisfied with their works but kotaku tried to turn it with biased eyes
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ianp622 - 593 days 6 hours ago
1.7 - @jwatt
"MGS4 is the best, the end." - Hideo Kojima

I am SO going to quote that out of context.
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LastDance - 593 days 5 hours ago
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theres alot of sour folk coz they dont get to play MGS4. Forget about it.

MGS4 is the BEST. the end.
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The Lazy One - 593 days 5 hours ago
1.9 - DON'T CHANGE TITLES
it's in the rules. If you want to add your own comments, do it in the comments.

Titles stay as they are until you find an article with the title you want.
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rushbd - 592 days 23 hours ago
1.10 - kotaku has crossed the line
they think they are better than Kojima ?
They think they have the knowledge to judge kojima ?
they dont have anything . They are a disgrace to gaming community . When is the last time they bashed anything about 360 ? point me to an article if you disagree
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J@D - 592 days 23 hours ago
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typical isn't.
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Saint Sony - 592 days 21 hours ago
1.12 - Of course he can't say he is unsatisfied with PS3... he only told the thruth about the game itself.
The game could be better, but it is still great with PS3.
Every game could be better. If PS3 has some limitations it does not mean the game will suck. The game will be what PS3 can offer right now.
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znu - 592 days 19 hours ago
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i don't like how he says that JUST BECAUSE he is japanese, he is modest and that Americans arn't.

Im not even American and couldn't give a damn but i don't like how he talks like he is better than everyone else and then claims to be humble.

Other than that he has the mind of a genius. I can see why he would be dissapointed with MGS4 as someone mentioned before that once it is released he'll always be thinking but i couldv'e done that. Most developers don't care, they getting cash cough*Ea*cough. then instead make a wholem new game a year later adding in that one little thing.

Kojima wants it to be perfect and that's why MGS4 will be the game of the year. I'm not saying that it will top software charts and get perfect reviews, im saying that not only will it own, i'll love every second of it.
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Will-UK - 592 days 18 hours ago
1.14 - Kotaku talk rubbish
just listen to hideo
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thewhoopimen - 592 days 18 hours ago
1.15 - @1.13
Perhaps you didn't read the article... but he's not just attacking the statement about overblown the dissatisfaction with the Ps3 translation statement. He's talking about on the whole of everything he says. Your current perception of his arrogance is also a "mis-translated" quote as well. Please think about it in the larger context.
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ikkokucrisis - 592 days 11 hours ago
1.16 - It's funny...
...how kotaku can get it all wrong, but yet many of us that read it on N4G perfectly understood what Hideo meant (look at the original thread here):

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...

I mean, if they as a "reputable gaming journalism website" are not understanding what hundreds of thousands of other people do, there's something seriously wrong here right? I think so.
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v1c1ous - 593 days 6 hours ago
2 - personally
i think kojima's words were given the wrong meaning in the process of translation.

then when he read the translated english interpretation (by japanese forum readers of all things) of what he said, THAT also lost some meaning and he got the wrong impression.

honestly, this whole thing is just a problem of miscommunication.

also, i AM HOPING his insult of US modesty is a translation mishap because....it's not gonna be pretty.

yes i understand being modest is woven into asian society. but that doesn't mean other countries aren't modest. it's not culture exclusive.

i really hope this doesn't turn into another bash-usa-a-thon-because-we-lik e-anime like the last thread.

EDIT: ALso, fix the title. its agaisnt the rules to change title from original.
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Ju - 593 days 6 hours ago
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I wouldn't say, 'wrong meaning in the process of translation', but re-interpretation of the spoken word.

English is a strange language, allowing all kind of interpretations. A simple thing, if one asks you "How are you doing?", one can respond, "Well, doing OK.". Based on the emphasis and how you say it you might get a response from "Oh, what's wrong?" to "Good to hear." and sometimes depending on the person interpreting what was said.

Being a non-native english-speaker (apologies to everyone), I run into things like that all the time, down to, "oops, didn't mean it that way", and I have learned to be very careful in some situations. So, I can kind of understand what he's trying to say.

And my experience especial with American culture is, that a lot of things are exaggerated. Not putting any qualification behind this, I am just saying, that other cultures might not work that way. If I have a discussion in German with friends, some Americans sometimes think we are fighting, simply because that's how it might sound to them. But the simple explanation is, that German simply sounds "harder" then English.

That said, Kojima might have said what was reported, and he might not have been satisfied. He might even have said he is unhappy with the HW. But this could simply be the result of his high goals (actually, I think that). We'll see. I think MGS4 will be one (if not the) best game out on the PS3 so far (until the next wave comes later this/next year). Marketing wise, this was, err, "unfortunate", at least. Maybe he should have left the talking (so short before a release) to the PR professionals.
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ruibing - 593 days 6 hours ago
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Or simply, it wasn't put completely into context.
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primordialmeme - 592 days 23 hours ago
2.3 - Kotaku fails
Kotaku is the tabloid of gaming journalism. Big failures.
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Tmac - 592 days 10 hours ago
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Denying that the North American holds modesty as a virtue is lying, North America holds modesty as a second hand figure, a sign of weakness, defeat in many terms. To say that Americans are modest would be untruthful.
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PimpHandHappy - 593 days 6 hours ago
3 - i remember a few
360 crazy ppl saying

Metal Gear looks like sh!t just based off his comment. Its funny how blind some ppl chose to be
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4 Blademask | 593 days 6 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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v1c1ous - 593 days 6 hours ago
4.1 - dude
what happened to your, like, 20 bubbles?
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KnaveX - 593 days 6 hours ago
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Dude where have you been, I confused you with some other mask guy that is a total fanboy! It been a month man!
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PLiPhaze - 593 days 5 hours ago
4.3 - @ KnaveX, Bubbles
"I confused you with some other mask guy that is a total fanboy!" I LOL'd!!!
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PoSTedUP - 593 days 6 hours ago
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if only the 100gig blu ray disc was out, then kojima would have nothing to worrie about. that was his major concern, disc space. it should be an all around bad a$$ game though.
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tweaker - 593 days ago
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Even if he worked on a 100gb disc he still wouldn't be satisfied.
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Qbanboi - 593 days 6 hours ago
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I love how Kotaku take the comment from Hideo, personal. And Attack back. Keep hating on the Ps3 Kotaku, but it will take more than that to make your revenge on it.
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Bathyj - 593 days 6 hours ago
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Even after all that Kotaku still try to have a little swipe at Sony in the last paragraph. I wish I knew women that suck as much as them.
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jwatt - 593 days 6 hours ago
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Yea I read that, are they serious?
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Meus Renaissance - 593 days 6 hours ago
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Isn't Kotaku the same website which tried to compare which was worst; RROD or the PS3 freezing because of GTA IV? Lawlz
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TodGeck - 592 days 13 hours ago
8.1 - Yeah...
they also failed to mention the problems/same ones occurring with the 360 version in that same article you mention.

They're a bunch of kids twisting/omitting quotes/facts around to get massive page views and promote their own agenda.
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Meus Renaissance - 593 days 6 hours ago
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"In Asia, humility is prized quite highly as a virtue. Thus, it's very uncommon to find traditional Asian folk who will blatantly extoll their own virtues, or indulge in boasting.

Thus, for example, if relatives were to ask me how I did for a test, it's much much more common for me to say (I'm Asian) that I did ok, it was alright, instead of bluntly saying I topped the class (or whatever). It's not about the lying, it's about being humble I guess, knowing that there are always people better than you.

Which was why when I first read the Kojima piece of how MGS4 didn't live up to his expectations, I understood it as him saying yea he was happy enough to have let it ship (given his track record as a perfectionist) but that he genuinely feels that it could have been done better, etc. "
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Britjadg - 593 days 2 hours ago
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too many haters out there. shame on kotaku.
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Game13a13y - 592 days 23 hours ago
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yes, and also, in asian culture, even if you are the f*cking best, no one goes out and call himself "i'm the f*cking best at blah blah blah" that would only make him look like a retard.

but anyway, this is not about cultural difference, this is all about Kotabu, or whatever that lame site is, being a jerk site. taking things out of context that even a 3 year old can figure out what he really means, or wait, are they that intelligent?
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Mr_Kuwabara - 593 days 6 hours ago
10 - To the last paragragh from Craptaku with Ragu
Kojima has been a game director for many years, and in those years he has been working for the Playstation (Sony's console) the most so I'm really not that surprised that Kojima respects the Playstation (Sony that is) brand and I doubt he'll talk bad about the Playstation 3 since in the end of the day, it's a great console. Besides, fanboys took that misunderstood comment the wrong way, which hurt the PS3 regardless.

The same if he'd been working for the 360 or Wii, why bash a console if you're making a freaking masterpiece on it on the first place?

It's like N4G for example, I don't own it, I'm here almost everyday because I like it, so why would I bash/talk bad about it it?

Now watch we Americans misunderstand Kojima's newest interview and his modesty and say that he is anti-American....
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KnaveX - 593 days 6 hours ago
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Couldnt agree more.
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Whoooop - 593 days 6 hours ago
11 - Media and gaming sites are going crazy....
This is bad for gaming and bad for relationships.

A humble developer like Kojima, will now think twice about being honest or about talking his mind to the american media.

He was just explaining his view on things and the media quickly turned it into flamebait news.

sad.
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SUP3R - 593 days 6 hours ago
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The funniest thing I saw all day was the pic for this article.
What's makes it even funnier is the person who submitted it.

Anyway. Does anyone take Kotaku seriously? They're so biased it's sad.
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addic - 593 days 2 hours ago
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lmao
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DJ - 593 days 6 hours ago
13 - ....
Wow, the media is having a REALLY bad year.
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OnslaughtX - 593 days 6 hours ago
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Man, Kotaku sounds so butthurt. What's with the continuing PS3 hate? They use any excuse to knock it. Game journalism, still pathetic.
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jackdoe - 593 days 5 hours ago
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Only a few of their writers continue to knock it consistently, namely Ashcroft and Crecente.
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kornbeaner - 593 days 6 hours ago
15 - Kotaku
is wrong with their little tyraid at the end of their story.

Yes it is possible that Edge magazine simply took Kojima's words out of context. It happens all the time in the press when an interview is given and then written in the same language. So how is it not possible that it would happen when a story has an English interviewer, Japanese guest and a middle man who has to go between the both of them.

I mean I speak Spanish and translating from Spanish to English is a b!tch, the meaning for some words are not the same and the context of some are also a loss. To try to do that with a language as complex as Japanese should be expected to produce some lost in translation parts considering, emotion and context are not even close between Japanese and English.

So Kojima is right and Edge is not necessarily wrong, they just grasped a different meaning of the words. The only wrong ones in this situation are the spin doctors at Kotaku and media outlets just like them.
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The Lazy One - 593 days 5 hours ago
16 - buh...
I was more confused by his example than by his original statement.

There is a point to japanese modesty, and there is a point where he can claim he was being modest, but he said specifically that the PS3 had hidden limits in it that disallowed him from fulfilling his end goals.

I'm also a little confused by how he could get mistranslated by his own translator, who he speaks highly of in the thing.

I really think this came off a lot worse than the original statement. Sure, western cultures aren't as modest, but we also don't secretly think we're better than everyone and that anything we do is superior to something someone else does.

Sometimes you say things wrong, and more times than not it's better to just let them die than to try to explain yourself.
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AclayPS3 - 593 days 5 hours ago
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Yes, I have read that article and another article similiar too it and basically Kojima said that it was taken out of context by "Westerners" that he was trying to be humble, but Westerners don't really understand what it means to be humble. He said next time he'll just come out and say, "Metal Gear Solid 4 will be the best".

Anyways, MGS4 is going to be a system seller, it's going to be in the running for Game of the Year and it's the game that will turn the most hardcore Xbox fanboys to PS3 owners. Period.
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