Analyst: Brand Loyalty Helps PS3 GTA IV

PirateThom - 592 days 15 hours ago

It's hard for the average consumer to be loyal to a company with 1 failed console they dropped support of without warning and 1 console which has been heavily criticised in the media for having the highest failure rate of any console before it.

Gamers have shorter memories than the general public do...

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kewlkat007 - 592 days 14 hours ago

have no Loyalties...They will go where the good games are. simple as that.

Yes the 360 have had issues but it's not every one or box. If your 3260 works fine then it works, and you enjoy the games.

Anyone can go out and purchase an ELITE console and enjoy the games, without having Loyalty or much problems.

I've gotten every console out since 1993, I just like games. It's a no-brainer Sony is a strong Brand. No one doubts that, but I hate Corporate fanboys.

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jadenkorri - 592 days 11 hours ago

i understand where your going, but if your thinking in the mind set of a consumer who does even the littlest of research, there gonna see 2 things, sony with its low failure rate, less games, and free online, compared to MS with a high failure rate, paid online, with a bigger library, is gonna chose the console that will not fail....Your not gonna walk into a car dealership and buy a car that breaks down a lot which is fully loaded compared to the other which won't break down and less features... This may be a bad comparison but its the way i look at it.. buts its an old argument of quantity vs quality.

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myabsolution - 592 days 14 hours ago

the only loser from GTA4 sales is the Wii... both 360 + PS3 hardware "win" from GTA4, no matter what your Sony hard-on tells you.

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calis - 592 days 13 hours ago

Wii sold 400,000 units the week GTAIV came out.

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myabsolution - 592 days 12 hours ago

400K according to vgchartz.

And imagine the number of consoles had the console had GTA4. Sure it may still sell like a beast, but it wouldve done better if it had GTA4.

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travelguy2k - 591 days 22 hours ago

If it had PS3FIT it would have sold better....thats the whole point of exclusives, GTA4 was EXCLUDED from the Wii.

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myabsolution - 592 days 14 hours ago

well said edonus.

It seems like a lot of countries tend to buy according to brand... look at Japan for example. They wouldnt buy Samsung tvs (even when Samsung were selling them at a loss), probably because they were a Korean company and it didnt say "Panasonic" or "sony" on the front of the tv. Brand has some serious power...

for me, I go where the games are.

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cmrbe - 592 days 14 hours ago

Which car brand would you guys buy. A Kia or a Toyota?.

Ednous: There is a reason why people beileve in the Playstation brand more than the x360. Its not like suddenly people got brainwashed and just bought the PS3 for no reason. Sony earned the trust and respect of gamers for over two generation now. They have proven not only they deliver diverse games that caters for every gamer but also they support their console 100%. Saying that we PS3 owners got less quality because of brand loyalty is so wrong on so many levels. Last time i checked the PS3 dosen't have a 33% defective rate.

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myabsolution - 592 days 14 hours ago

Big difference between cars for me. When I buy a car, I really just look at price, gas mileage, size, and if it gets me from point A to point B.

Sure maybe the PS3 doesnt have a high defect rate but it doesnt exactly have as many games as 360 does at the moment.

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edonus - 592 days 13 hours ago

But this is more like a Toyota to a Nissan, its a liitle bit closer. But honestly that doesnt matter. I'm not against liking a specific company but call me old fashioned or naive but I like things to be fair. If someone is giving you something that they worked hard on even if you like what the other guys are doing its atleast a courtesy to see what they have to offer. What if all the ppl that bought SNES and Geneis decided not to give the PS1 a chance at all because it wasnt made by Nintendo or Sega....you liked your Ps2 right...well you would have never had it. Even though the Ps1 did have to go through some of that they actually came in at a good time. Sega had lost their trust and Nintendo didnt have anything (the PS was suppose to be the new Nintendo).

MS has been trying to deliver a system that the world say they want, but had to abandon the 1st one because the brand loyalty and mostly timing of their system release. They had the better console its just Ps2 already had position, they could have never made a profit or a difference in the industry with contued support of the original Xbox (casualty of war). The 360 that you mention had a 33% failure rate had to rushed to avoid being release when Sony would have used the same brand loyalty to cripple them out the gate. It wouldnt have mattered what the 360 could do. With out its own time to shine it would have gotten swept under the rug because of brand loyalty. And they know the issue with RRod was unfortunate so they made it a policy to fix them. They made a mistake while trying to survive in a dirty war.

Since they did deliver on what the system is suppose to do I can forgive them for that, its like they had to break their arm to win a fight.If the system didnt have such a stellar game library and amazing features and all around the best next gen experience since its release i'm sure the public wouldnt have so forgiving. Oh and they have fixed the RRod they cant come out and say because it would give leverage to ppl that would try to sue them. Dont believe it GTA4 just came out , that an alot of consloes being played along time, we havent heard about any mass RRod problems. RRod is something the anti MS hold on to because with out that the 360 is clearly the best gaming option available.

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Bathyj - 592 days 13 hours ago

Exactly cmrbe. The haters like to think we just follow like mersmerized sheep and have no will of our own when honestly it just that we prefer their product and treatment of us as customers.

Theres a reason Brand power is powerful and it cant just happen overnight or be bought like M$ does with everything. Its about having a good name and a history of delivering. When you do the right thing by people for 12 years then you EARN trust and dedication. And dont tell me piddly crap like Sony lied about this and Sony delayed that. Fanboys record every little detail like they're wait for Sony to be taken to court and they might get call as a character witness. Yeah good luck with that.

I'm talking about the important stuff like delivery a variety of games that cover everything. They grew this business from something that was thought to be just for sweaty little nerds to a billion dollar empire that overtook Hollywood. M$ would never have even made a console if Sony hadn't paved the way because the thought of anyone challenging Sega or Nintendo was unthinkable at the time. They saw not only how big a piece of the pie Sony had, but also how big the pie itself had become.

But the day I walked through Kmart and saw Wipeout running I said "What the hell is that?" and my life had changed. Anyway, getting abit of track here, but that why brand loyal is and should be to some people. If someone keeps treating you well why wouldn't you keep giving them your business, just like you wouldn't spend a cent on a company that keeps crapping on you.

But just so you know this GTA thing isn't all about Brand, consider this. People buying consoles are obviously the people who dont have either console right now. And they are choosing PS3. Maybe they were PS2 diehards maybe not. I just think PS3 is the better buy right now and thats not brand loyalty, thats just making an informed decision. The price difference is negligible. It shouldnt even come into it, cos its so close people arent going to get a console they dont want to save a little money. Hell what is it, one years worth of XBL? You save that straight away on PS3. Sony should be plugging that more.

But XBox has so many games right? Well people dont buy a console to play year old games. If you buy a console you look forward, not backwards. The buzz is all gone on those games and though you would still buy them cheap you wouldnt choose a console for them. Besides the Xbox libary isn't all its made out to be. There are plenty of must have games on both systems but XBox has a lot of crap too. I dont care if they have 200 games when I'll only be buying 3 or 4 with my console. I bought so many crap XB games the first year just because it was the only next gen machine and I wanted anything to play on it but truth be told 2/3rd's was dross.

So a Next Gen virgin goes, "Well I can get a PS3 and play GTA, GT5P, MGS, FF, LBP and so on etc. Or I can get a XB and play GTA and hmm its been that long since M$ released a game I care about I dont even know. I'm actually having to think about it. NG2 I suppose, but then I'd rather have God of War. Gears of War 2 at Christmas then. Probably the only game on XBox I'll buy this year. Oooo, Fable 2, I just remembered.

My point is XB doesn't have much thats that interesting to me or probably to Joe Noconsole till the end of the year, while PS3 is about to be so spoilt for choice, we were all actually HAPPY that Killzone got delayed (wrong word since it never had a release date,) announce to release next year.

If I had to by my first console this gen right now, the choice would be easy and it would have nothing to do with Brand loyalty.

PS
I used to buy twice as many games on XB than I did on PS2, all my multiplats but I didn't see a need to stay loyal once M$ started sh*tting on everyone. And I've started buying old stuff like Pop and FSW for PS2 again because I still like them but my XB isn't even plugged in so its easier to play on PS3.

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dcbronco - 592 days 13 hours ago

It must be one with a hell of a engine. And a great design. It rides smoothly over those bumpy frame rates the Toyota struggles with. It has better acceleration to load screens. It has a special coating on the windows that allow you to actually see more colors then green and brown. It may take some maintenance, but it comes with a three year power-train warranty. If your Toyota gives you problems, you're ass out. It has all those games...I mean extra features that your Toyota doesn't. Nobody wants to work on your Toyota, it's too complicated. The parts on the Kia are easy to work with. And on top of that it's cheaper. So go tell the cheap used car salesman, Mr. Pachter, who sold it to to give you your money back. He violated the lemon laws. I've never heard a honest word come out of his mouth. Let him acknowledge one mistake Toyota has made and I would have some respect for what he says.

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cmrbe - 592 days 10 hours ago

You guys just live for the moment. If you believe that the PS3 will be trailing the x360 in amount of games forever then you are sadly mistaken. You do know that Sony have the most internal studios right?.From the outset of this console war i bet most PS fans knew that the PS3 will always have most games they like. I look at long term like most people. PS3 was built to last.

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pabadamus1 - 591 days 18 hours ago

I have both systems and it is interesting what triggered either purchase. I bought the 360 a full year after system launch when GOW arrived. I decided to ignore the growing reports of hardware instability and I took the plunge. It was a must have app that forced my hand. I bought the PS3 4 months after system launch with absolutely no promising software in sight. I made the purchase in expectation of great things to come.

The Sony purchase was a lot easier because there is a history of quality, stability and innovation associated with that brand. I was a lot more pensive with my Microsoft purchase because after a year it was still an “unknown quantity” and there was nothing truly compelling me to buy it.

It is true that brand loyalty plays a big role in any transition or hardware iteration. I believe both companies are depending on that—more so in the next hardware introduction. We shouldn’t be quick to point fingers and label others as “blind followers” when making the accusation itself lends to an air of blind loyalty and bias. We can decry the failings of both companies but where does that get us. We should be loyal only to our personal enjoyment.

I do agree with Bathyj that the back catalog of PS2, XBOX1 and even the older titles in the 360 lineup will play very little part in acquiring new business (not so much so for Nintendo’s virtual console offering). Consumers are more likely to purchase in anticipation of upcoming titles or titles that piqued their interest within a prior 4 month period.

game on

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travelguy2k - 590 days 22 hours ago

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1stKnighT - 592 days 13 hours ago

The 360 version doesn't have single player???

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gambare - 592 days 11 hours ago

well, many people bought the 360 version for the multiplayer side and the achievements, so we can say : NO

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SacT0wnF1n3st - 592 days 10 hours ago

Achievements are for both the single player and multi player.

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tordavis - 592 days 9 hours ago

Why wouldn't you just buy the 360 version only? It has a single player game too. You lost me...

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edonus - 592 days 13 hours ago

You have been cultivated by Sony everything you said is the spin, I dont blame you because thats what big business does to consumers on a mass scale. Ipod for instance, there are tons of players with bigger screens better features more flexibility but Ipod owns them all because they were the 1st to reach (Mass Effect).

That bit of scaredness about the system breaking down on you, and you missing out on your favorite franchises is exactly what they were doing to you. You dont take into account that the best games delivered this gen has been on the 360. What about new franchises to discover. Have you ever not played a video game for 2 weeks, well thats what happens if it breaks down on you, another thing is its not that likely to break down on you 2 out of 3 that your system wont breakdown, you could go to a casino and get rich off of those odds and actually right now its actually fixed so you probably would never see the RRod.

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Cupid_Viper_3 - 592 days 12 hours ago

i had a bit of respect for you when i read some of your posts yesterday....

but it seems like you just got paid by MS to say bullsh!t today. seriously....

please explain a few things me man

why the f*ck would SONY pay for extra GTA4 missions when they have 5 games coming between now and december? just why...????

why would they now choose to double resources for HOME?? you know only MS thinks that throwing money at everything works.... Let me tell you a little secret.
If you're short on cash for your bills, then doubling your resources will help......but if you're late on a computer programming related project, the more NEWER PEOPLE AND RESOURCES you add, the LATER THE PROJECT WILL BE....any smart programers knows that, because it takes time to understand such things... they have to get up to speed with everyone else...

and also, its funny that you of all people are telling others to not be loyal to sony because, SOMEHOW THE XBOX IS THE BEST? please, STFU please......when was the last time you've heard of any company, making such unreliable products, and being outsold by every one of its competitors regardless of price, and calling themselves THE BEST???? please name one, other then MS, and i'll stop posting on N4G.....ok??? so until then.....STFU, you really dissapointed me... I HAD no problem with you supporting the 360, but when you start running your mouth as to why people shouldn't support SONY, you just turn yourself into the biggest hyppocrite in my eyes....

everything you in your post could be reversed and be truer, regarding the 360.....so please man, either go back to posting smart comments like before, of STFU...

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edonus - 592 days 8 hours ago

I never said that people shouldnt support Sony. The point I was trying to make and either you didnt see it or I didnt do it right was that when new products competing against each other are compared the comparisons should start from scratch. If its not done from scratch that like the Bears versus the Colts and you give the 14 points to start with. Also I know more about marketing and business so doubling resources as far as Home goes I could be wrong if developing work as you described.

And the reason they would pay for more GTA4 content is simple, to give their customer the best and as much as they can provide. What if those 5 other games you talk about dont appeal to the Ps3 owner that just bought Gta4 or he played and likes it so much that he would like to have more. I came to the conclusion of 360 being the best by judging objectively. The 360 isnt perfect but its the closes one when you weigh what has been delivered. I am pro 360 right now if the Ps3 start pumping out solid material and doing things better than the 360 I will give them their props and enjoy their games.

Sony and Nintendo are outselling the 360 for 2 differnt reason the Wii is cheap and is a gimmick those thatdont know any better buy one and never play it. The Ps3 is being adopted its loyalists these are ppl that were buying a Ps3 anyway they werent conviced or persuaded, as sure water is wet and ice is cold they were buying a Ps3. The console thing is board meeting toilet paper. They wipe their @sses with those numbers and let the media smell it. The real numbers that they dont talk about is total revenue and MS is killing its competitors, because software sells are pure profit, subscription fee pure profit, downloadable movies pure profit. Normally I cant stand when someone is makng this much money off of us but the product is well worth it.

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Cupid_Viper_3 - 592 days 7 hours ago

i disagree with you on several points.

1. you said that 360 is the closest to best when it comes to what has been delivered. I object to that, TELL ME WHAT THE 360 offers in terms of delivery, that the original xbox didnt already have. and please keep in mind that the 360 is supposed to be next gen. and you can't deny that the 360 days a numbered edonus, you simply can't. We live in a world where we get newer technology on a monthly basis, and the 360 is simply the original xbox with improved graphics man. There was no leap what-so-ever. everything else, modern, had to be an add-on.

2. i partially agree with the loyalist idea, but what i was insisting on is that, you have to realize that the only people that are buying the xbox360 are loyalist from the previous one as well, thus, explaining you're numbers after x amount of time on the market. ON the other hand, looking at the numbers that we have for the ps3, there's no way that a thinking person can deny that the ps3 is going to surpass its own first year sale numbers, thus reaching 20 million units somewhere around dec, or early jan....

3, as far as revenues go, please man, start thinking, and see the bigger picture. MS has only one console or product out in the gaming division, SONY has 3, and on many occasions, all three of them have outsold the 360, and they all sell games as well. So at some point edonus, i hope you really ask yourself, WHO'S REALLY CALLING THE SHOTS HERE. so look at march numbers when 360 outsold ps3, and even then, MS was no where near the total revenue SONY makes in its gaming division monthly. look up the numbers, and take the price of the consoles, and the number of games for each each platforms competing and you'll see what im talking about man....

on a good note, I gotta give you back your props for a well thought out reply though.... Hope it can always stay like this, a civil discussion

edit: also, the whole DLC for GTA4 you have to admit was a desperate, if not, biggest waste of money ever. 50 million to make the game on 360, that i understand, but 50 million for DLC, that's pure lack of options, thus, desperation. well thats my take on it. And if at any point sony feel like it, it can always be done, its called DLC for a reason. And to the People that just bought a ps3 solely for GTA4, 95% of them, wont get to 95% percent of the game, thus 95% of them won't bother with DLC, but instead 95% of them, will buy GTA5 because it will be the only system to play it on. And i can promise that MS wont break even with 50million back from the DLC, and if they do, call the cops, cause a lot of people have been robbed. Remember how so many people protested GT5P, and that was a better experience then most other games....... again edonus, keep an open mind.

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Cupid_Viper_3 - 590 days 11 hours ago

please do me a favor, rewrite the title of my second comment on your next post, and then you can come back and apologize, just like i did, ok???

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PirateThom - 592 days 13 hours ago

I have a 360 and a PS3 and I got the PS3 version. Many places say the PS3 version is superior (more places than the 360 version)

I don't need achievements to make a game worthwhile.

My reasoning is that I don't buy multi-platform games on 360, just because I outright prefer the PS3 for next gen gaming. I own more XBLA titles on 360 than disc games.

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edonus - 592 days 13 hours ago

The differences betwwen the 2 GTA4s are so minimal to use a word like superior is irresponsible. Ive played both and from what ive seen the 360 version is a little bit clearer but the Ps3 version has thicker shadowing (its actially better lighting but the only place it shows is in the shadowing). But keep inmind the Ps3 is very sharp and the 360 version has excellent shadowing and light as well.

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spooky205 - 592 days 13 hours ago

seriously what is up with achievements? i never got that concept. its like congrats you did something, here some numbers right next to your gamer tag. i would much rather have achievements that can unlock skins, cheats, and game altering extras. the only reason i would see the 360 version being better is because of the DLC (which we still don't know what it is and probably be outsourced to EA if the take 2 takeover happens *shudders*) and which system u have the most friends on. either than that i got both versions and the ps3 version is better than the 360. it has a better color palette (which is weird considering that normally most multiplats look a little more pale on the ps3), less pop-up (its still in the ps3 version but it is less frustrating than the 360.), and a better load time. the ps3 controller is better suited for than the 360 although that is just personal opinion. i am gonna enjoy the exclusive content on both consoles when it drops, that is if i am not busy playing all the other kick ass games this year.

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edonus - 592 days 8 hours ago

if achievements could unlock stuff. But they are nice to have its just another aspect, its like the ppl that play Madden to get the Madden cards its just your entire library. Thye dont take anything away from the game. Me I dont really care about them to much but I do like looking at the pictures when I log in and sometimes seeing if other ppl have done the same things i,ve been doing.

And i must say I've never experienced any frustrating pop ups, Ive seen a few here and there nothing like your walking something pop ins and you run in to it so the pop up thing on both systems seem like a non issue. Load times 2sec difference.

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1stKnighT - 592 days 7 hours ago

Just doesn't make sense if you own both consoles to get the ps3 version. The 360 version has a higher resolution which means a sharper picture, colors are more vibrant, the online, DLC, and achievements but apparently suffers from slightly more pop-in but I haven't seen it. The ps3 is not as sharp and is full of freezeups and bugs. Remember Rockstar always stated they were having problems with the ps3 version and now we can see that statement was correct.

Achievements just adds more fun to the game. It's a gamer thing, you probably don't know nothing about that.

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spooky205 - 592 days 6 hours ago

1stknight. hahhahhahahhahah. "Achievements just adds more fun to the game. It's a gamer thing, you probably don't know nothing about that. "

oh yeah i want to spend countless hours doing mediocre fetch quests so i can get some numbers slapped next to my gamertag instead of having actual fun with the game i purchased. achievements mean nothing more than a futile pissing contest. your probably one of those idiots that rents a crappy game like vampire rain just to rack up points. achievements are good when you get something out of it like i stated above. you must be the type of person that thinks that gamerpoints is the equivalent to penis size. sad little fanboy.......

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myabsolution - 592 days 12 hours ago

"flip your car 5 times in a row.
I did this on my PS3. "

prove it. :)

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PirateThom - 592 days 12 hours ago

Why does it matter if you can prove it to someone?

That's what's wrong with gaming, it's not about games, it's about meaningless points and K/D ratios.

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Kazuo Hirai - 592 days 15 hours ago

PLAY BEYOND

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power of Green ENVY - 592 days 14 hours ago

**NO!!!!!!!!!** **NO!!!!!!!!!** **NO!!!!!!!** **MOMMY!!!!!!!**

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alexM - 592 days 14 hours ago

However PS3 has already surpassed x360 in terms of LTD HW sales

In UK PS3 has come 75% of X360 total LTD(2m vs 1.5 m). In AU the ps3 is shy by just 60,000 units

GTA4 helped SONY move more PS3s than MS with x360s EVEN IN UK

PS3 version of GTA4 would end up selling MORE IN LTD sales EVEN IN UK

More PS2--> PS3 conversions are occuring with GTA4 on PS3

as for EU.......x360 doesnt even exist there. PS3 has already surpassed x360 in LTD HW sales there

Its video games i know

BUT WINNING MAtters

No body wants a DEFECTIVE LOW POWERED CONSOLE to stay in teh console war...this is why GBOX 3 FIX ME is finished

@BULLSHIT360

PS3 is just 3.5 m away from x360's total BASE

13.5m vs 16.5m (ms said 5 m so it is like 3.5m /4m actually)

GTA4 moved 2x as many PS3s in USA

in europe excepting UK x360 version of GTA4 wasnt even advertised.

KAZ HIRAI said that PS3 is going NOT JUST AFTER wii BUT after entire MEDIA MOGHULS

so ps3 is competing in entertainment as well as gaming world

However Bullshitbox3fixme is dead all over the WORLD

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WIIIS1 - 592 days 14 hours ago

I agree LaChance. GTA IV figures indicate that PS2 nation is moving towards both consoles, and not one. We will therefore see a great dilution of Sony's market dominance much to the chagrin of Kaz Hirai who realizes this and has already cooked up the excuse that they're not competing with Msoft and Nintendo.

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Tmac - 592 days 14 hours ago

The hardware boost was not identical. It boosted PS3 sales over all.

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juuken - 592 days 1 hour ago

La Chance...*in a quiet voice* do you want your pacifier?

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Breakfast - 592 days 14 hours ago

Funniest person to ever post on this site.

GIVE THIS MAN A BUBBLE!!!!

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alexM - 592 days 14 hours ago

sure we will

But it is not any more FUNNY to MS whose last weapon GEARS2 was murdered by KZ2

It is not funny to MS who lost to SONY in europe despite them launching x360 16 months prior to PS3

KAZ speaks the truth

It is OVAA for XBREAK 3 FIX ME

Swedish gaming mag Gamereactor said that there are MAJOR DIFFERENCES between the 2 version

http://www.gamereactor.se/r...
Swedish Gamereactor mentioned in their 10/10 review that they were pretty surprised regarding the difference between the PS3 and 360-versions. The PS3-version features better colours, contrast, load times and what looks to be better resolution textures. The game also looks sharper and has a more stable fps.

IGN

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

"For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch. Either version will do you proud".

X360 version has FR dips too . more frequent than the PS3 version
"Past GTA titles have had mild-to-serious framerate issues and technical glitches, because the games were trying to do far more than the PlayStation 2 could handle. While GTA IV is pushing the PS3 and 360 to the limit, it also runs amazingly well. Sure, there are framerate hitches here and there and (particularly on 360) there is some texture pop-in, but it actually runs better than I expected. That a game with great AI, an awesome physics engine and a detailed open world runs so well and with such short load times is a technical marvel. For that, I can forgive framerate issues and some noticeable aliasing. "

http://www.n4g.com/NewsPend...

EGM "PS3 version looks slightly more vibrant and sharp "

GAMESRADAR

http://www.gamesradar.com/x...

"Occasional pop-up".........ONLY IN X360 version of GTA4

http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08...

So happy that i own a PS3

GAMESRADAR also confirms that PS3 version is SUPERIOR

"While the PS3 and 360 versions of the game are functionally identical, the PS3's visuals sport noticeably smoother edges, along with a warmer color palette that makes everything look slightly more realistic. If you're looking to compare Accomplishments with your Achievement-hoarding friends, though, forget it - GTA IV ignores these half-assed consolation prizes altogether. PS3 owners also have to put up with a nearly eight-minute installation the first time they start the game, which puts the normally slower Blu-ray load times on par with the Xbox 360 version. (That is, unless it's running on a 360 with no hard drive, which we're told will face much longer loads.)"

Others here u go

x360 version of GTA4 will cause your xbox 3 FIX me to permannently RROD

apparently there is no fix for the FREEZING on the X360 version

x360 version's freezing is HW related

http://kotaku.com/385183/ro...

soi freezing in GIMPED BOX 3 FIX me version has no FIX

x360 version cant be played at FULL SCREEN also

NOT TO MENTION that GIMPED BOX 3 FIX ME version has UNBEARABLE AMOUNTS OF POP INS

POP INS in GIMPED BOX 3 FIX ME versions

http://www.sonydefenseforce...

http://www.sonydefenseforce...

http://www.sonydefenseforce...

http://www.sonydefenseforce...

http://www.gamesradar.com/p...

It is OVER for XBUTTS and 3 FIX ME

VIDEO COMPARISON between GTA4 PS3 and WASHED OUT VERSION OF GTA4 ON x360

You can easily determine the best version from a series of Comparison videos

Gamevideos

http://www.n4g.com/News-140...

As seen in the video one version sports SLIGHTLY brighter and more saturated colours . Look at the water at the end. Look at the ROADS.

You could compare this video to IGN's comparison

http://www.onlineflvplayer.... http://media.rockstarwatch....

Spoiler

look at the DIFFERENCES in COLORS of the cars/ shadows/ roads. Notice that one features yellow stripes on the roads which appear as white stripes on the other version. Notice the shadows which appear dark orange on one version. Notice the car which appears slightly more greenish on the ps3 version. The yellowish green tint is VERY MUCH NOTICEABLE in one version only. see the comparison footages from 3:00 to the end to base your judgement

Gamesradar

http://www.n4g.com/News-140...

Clearly the video demonstrates the slight improved brightness and color depth in one of the versions

VIDEO GAMER comparison

http://play.tm/wire/click/1...

IGN VIDEO COMPARISON

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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Breakfast - 592 days 14 hours ago

LOL!!!

Give Nasim a bubble too HAHAHA...you guys are the best!

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juuken - 592 days 1 hour ago

No, it shows that you are a misinformed xbot who's crying in his crib. Brand loyalty is important for any system, and it's especially important for Sony. Once MGS4 hits stores, the hardware is going to sell even faster.

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