Hirai: 'We're not competing with Microsoft or Nintendo'

Amanosenpai - 596 days 15 hours ago

I wonder how did they manage to sale 18 mill consoles already.

Sony should improve its marketplace and online features (home) ASAP to finish this competition.

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Ace Ventura - 596 days 14 hours ago

They've has almost 3 years 2 do it. No competition the first year. And now the Xbox 360 is the cheapest console on the market...even being 200$ in Europe and still comes in dead last.

Make sense to you?

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Amanosenpai - 596 days 14 hours ago

But, MS became a relevant element in console world, and for them thats a victory.

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Shadow Flare - 596 days 14 hours ago

That's also generally how losers make themselves feel better

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WIIIS1 - 596 days 14 hours ago

Wow some people will swallow any crap their master feeds them and swear to God it was the finest cuisine they ever had. PS3 should start getting its gaming act together first before indulging in wild fantasies.

@ below
Did I say there are no games? I don't think so... but I'll say it now. PS3 still has the least games worth getting.

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Action Bastard - 596 days 14 hours ago

Were you on the planet Wednesday? Are there really no games? C'mon...

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Silellak - 596 days 14 hours ago

Peter Dille, Sony's senior vice president: "With the Xbox 360 you've got an inconsistent design, some have a hard drive, some don't, and none of them have Blu-Ray, and the HD-DVD will be out of business in a matter of months. Is this a 10 year product? And by the way, it doesn't even work. Do they want to be selling it for 10 years and refurbishing them all for 10 more years? I don't think that's a 10 year product. You could disagree with me, or they could disagree with me, but I'd put that up against the PS3 any day."

Yeah, Sony REALLY doesn't care about Microsoft at ALL. And insulting another company is DEFINATELY a sign of desperation.

Right?

"Get over it Microsoft. Your console is unwanted garbage."

Actually, millions of people clearly want it, because that's how many people have bought it. See, there are some of us out there who buy a console because we enjoy its games, not because we have some blind loyalty to our corporate overlords.

"2 times as expensive as the Wii and 360"

Wii = $250 * 2 = $500
360 = $280 * 2 = $560
PS3 = $400

Wow, your math is a bit off there, champ. Is there anything you aren't wrong about?

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kevoncox - 596 days 14 hours ago

You guys eat this crap like dirt.
They aren't competing with Nintendo and MS but...

They release a electronic device that plays about 75% of the same games as MS' consoles.
They have an online infastructure set up to play said games like MS.
They revenue is driven from sales of software shipped and sold in the same location as Ms' and Nintendo.
The system plays games via a contoller just like MS and Nintendo.
The devices requires a Tv, just like Nintendo and MS.

Clearly, they aren't competing with Ms and Nintendo :

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Action Bastard - 596 days 13 hours ago

What does "PS3 should start getting its gaming act together first before indulging in wild fantasies." insinuate?

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kapedkrusader - 596 days 13 hours ago

They clearly stated that they are not JUST competing with them, but also with the rest of the entertainment companies.

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tojfs7931 - 596 days 12 hours ago

The zune. I have yet to see a zune in the wild. I dropped that pos and bought a creative zen. Much happier with it.

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permutated - 596 days 8 hours ago

Look at all you stupid fanboys, you guys aren't even gamers.

It comes down to this: play the games you want to play, don't get caught up in all this company vs. company BS.

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WIIIS1 - 596 days 14 hours ago

yeah, they've really proven themselves haven't they? lol!

@ below
Precisely. Nintendo has proven itself but people here will still dismiss it. Meanwhile, the same people will go about heaping praises at the underperformer.

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Silellak - 596 days 14 hours ago

Actually, if any system could be defined that way, it's the Wii.

Love it or hate it, it's significantly different than either the 360 or the PS3. The 360 and PS3 share much of one another's game library, and their controllers/approach to online gaming/etc. are very similar.

That's why people mostly refer to the console war as 360 vs. the PS3. The Wii is off doing its own thing, many of its sales being casuals who may not have otherwise bought ANY system this generation.

Me? I just love Boom Blox.

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Guitarded - 596 days 13 hours ago

it's the minor leagues.

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Shadow Flare - 596 days 14 hours ago

so they went for selling more consoles instead, and they're beating Microsoft, royal

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The Lazy One - 596 days 12 hours ago

They are catching up to microsoft--Slowly.

when they close the gap, I will be happy to say sony is winning something. Till then, the only thing sony won was an intermediate format war.

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Action Bastard - 596 days 14 hours ago

I have to respectfully disagree Meus. Why not focus on movies and BR? It's a BR player. They also give us firmware that allowed for multiple downloads, A new PS Store, the information bar, Gaya visualization, improved browsing, and on...

They can't react to every little thing Microsoft does. Steady path. Same thing they did when the Xbox was introduced.

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Marceles - 596 days 14 hours ago

I was just about to say he should concentrate on games first and forget about all of the other stuff. Even when Playstation wasn't known and all it had was a CD player, it was the games that made Playstation what it was. Even when PS2 was a DVD player it was the games..sure it was a cheaper DVD player too, but people felt the same way about DVDs as they feel with Blu-ray right now, but it was all about the games. It makes me mad everytime there's a new FW update and it's a new Blu-ray sound codec addition, etc. They're all nice additions, but not when gamers who've bought your system to play games are begging and pleading to bring out another gaming feature. I really hope they deliver on games soon because even though Blu-ray is catching on, everyone knows "Play"station as a gaming system and the mass consumer won't figure out all of the other extra stuff they're adding on and trying to do until much later. I really don't care about a wider entertainment space and Play TV and BD Live...

I'm really kinda mad at this quote lol...you're in competition dammit, now win! It's like...MS and Sony are both trying to do the same thing but differently. Sony has never really won by paying attention to what someone else is doing, so I don't know what's going on over there...we can all debate on who thought of winning the entertainment space war, but I dont know...it doesn't sound like Sony to say they're not competiting and that they're working on so much non-gamer stuff. There's seriously some new people in the Sony offices or they've lost focus somewhere. Sony has been known to be arrogant, and they had every right to be with how good their consoles are...and now it's killing me to see that all of a sudden they've become modest and kissing the media's feet so they can have at least one good thing to say about them. Like when Jack Tretton was making jokes to be modest at E3, they're a totally different company now...

Sorry, I'm just ranting lol...but I hope they really turn their attention on gaming because this doesn't sound like the same arrogant but dominant Sony I know, "we're not competing..." sigh*...well they have added some new stuff like the Playstation store, and have shown off some impressive looking games, and MGS4 is coming out soon which I hope lasts until LBP comes, sigh...ok I'm cooled down lol

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SUP3R - 596 days 14 hours ago

They're known for quality products, no matter who does or doesn't think so.
Every major entertainment device in our house is Sony branded.
3 Sony WEGA TV's which get thrown out or sold this Christmas and replaced with 3 BRAVIA's.
Our VCR's, DVD systems, Stereo Systems and now BR player is Sony and we've never had a problem with any of them after purchasing.
Delivering A or A+ quality products is their goal and over the decades they've delivered and proven to consumers they know electronics.

Microsoft is software geniuses and have undeniably delivered with LIVE and its' unique functionality. However, Sony as a software brand is still fairly new and they are trying to deliver on the standards of what they've been know for when referenced to their electronics. It might take time, but trying to get as close to perfection as possible always does.

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The Lazy One - 596 days 12 hours ago

Microsoft is expanding it's reach with consumer electronics every year. Look at past CES's. They've branched from a business operating system, to a mobile operating system, to hardware and software designed to be used in the consumer sector, to software and hardware being designed in the hardware sector.

They're doing one thing extremely well, and that's tying it all together. Right now, I can go check my XBL friends list on MSN. I can stream movies to my zune (if I had one) from my 360 or PC. I can check my email, MSN, and XBL friends list from a windows mobile PDA. I can download movies and music on demand through my 360.

Microsoft's tying together all the things that need to be; the services. Sony isn't a service based company. It's a product based company. That's where it's going to be hurt the most.

While sony is making an entertainment center, microsoft is streamlining the way your whole life is going to work.

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Lord Vader - 596 days 13 hours ago

I have to agree. I have both machines, but my 360 library trumps the hell out of my PS3 library. It's hard to not buy multi's on 360 b/c they usually run better & don't require GB's of HDD space to run, but honestly, it's mostly b/c of the integrated frends list, private chat, & achievements.

If Sony doesnt think they can learn something from Microsoft (dashboard efficientcy + EASY to invite friends to games + private chat + achievements + XBL Live) then they are clueless to both casual & hardcore gamer wants & needs this generation.

It's hard to hear them so arrogant when Home isn't here, KZ2 delayed again (a BIG reason why I bought a PS3), now until 02/2009, the aforementioned dashbord & friends list streamlining still ain't here, + although "they'er coming", still there IS a lack of good software & AAA titles when compared to 360. Period. I am sure I will get alot of disagrees for being truthful on N4G, but this is how I feel as a hardcore gamer with both consoles.

I wish they would focus less on BluRay & PR Bullcrap & more on *GAMES* & making PSN & the friends list/invite/chat much more streamlined like XBL. Get off your high horse Sony, you are currently running #3 out of 3 consoles, your arrogance pisses me off when you have yet to deliver on a helluva lot of Promises & you have the nerve to say you "have no competition".

"Forget Microsoft & Ninentdo" = WHAT ? That IS your competition whether you like it or not Kaz, & your company is probably in last place now b/c of this type of ludicrous arrogant attitude!

Sincerely,

Playstation Fan

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Nuch Vader - 596 days 13 hours ago

For anyone that owns both system, it's hard to get excited about Playstation 3. It has a terrible library of Xbox 360 hand me downs. As for Playstation 3 not competing with Xbox 360, PS3 was beaten a long time ago in the entertainment arena. I've been downloading TV Shows, movies and music videos for... what? Two years now? Playstation 3 is to have a 10 year life cycle? It will take them that long to catch up to where Xbox Live and it's library is today.

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DJ - 596 days 14 hours ago

Everything from movies (divx) to home video clips that they took with their cameras and whatnot. There's some nifty improvements that Sony should make for both the Photo and Video sections of the XMB, since that's where the fun is. A video editor would be tight, and they should have more slideshow options for the photos.

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The Lazy One - 596 days 12 hours ago

of just the people I know. I know 7-10 that have gone from PS2-360.

The fact that 360 isn't being outsold 5 to 1 is testament to them stealing sony's market share.

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WIIIS1 - 596 days 14 hours ago

You honestly didn't cringe when you typed through that part about Sony getting their gaming perfect?

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DJ - 596 days 13 hours ago

So uh...no? Been having a lot of fun with GT5: Prologue, Call of Duty 4, GTA, and Motorstorm from time to time. Oh, and Echochrome is ridiculous.

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Marceles - 596 days 14 hours ago

That sounds more accurate

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alexM - 596 days 15 hours ago

Unlike LOW POWERED GARBAGE BOX 360 which is dead in europe and japan

and Wii---a JOKE IN THE NAME OF A CONSOLE

PS3 had expanded media capabilities and that includes BD playback ---unlike 2$ DVD playback on GARBAGE BOX 3 FIX ME and PIIII

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sidar - 596 days 15 hours ago

" Unlike LOW POWERED GARBAGE BOX 360 which is dead in europe and japan
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power maybe so ( believe what you want), but im talking GAMES.

" and Wii---a JOKE IN THE NAME OF A CONSOLE"
Thats subjective =)
their main reasons = games therefor they are competing > FACT

After all the PS1 exists because of " Ken Kutaragi " Dreams/ambitions[GAMES], not because he loves movies so much

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Pain - 596 days 14 hours ago

Like Next-Gen, not last.

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sidar - 596 days 14 hours ago

@pain
so you live in the past?
NEXT gen isnt even out, so lets call it Current gen ok?

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WIIIS1 - 596 days 14 hours ago

I was thinking biggest mouth.

Ah didn't this buffoon also say PS3 is a computer, or was it the other Sony monkeys?

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liquidsnake - 595 days 16 hours ago

"when you're the biggest dog in the yard..." read that sentence with Bruce Lee's voice and it'll be rather funny.

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juuken - 595 days 15 hours ago

And you need to do a bit of shutting up yourself because your college thesis makes no logical sense and it's made of pure hatred towards Sony. Don't get your xbot panties in a bunch just because you chose the wrong console to back.

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