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David Reeves "We Forgot About The Gamers When Creating Home "

David Reeves Says

"We've realised that maybe we were too ambitious with the non-gaming applications within Home, getting sponsors and stuff like that," he went on to confess.

"In that sense we were deserting gamers. So, we're concentrating on the gaming by launching games in Home, and attracting people who are into gaming in first - instead of the Nike people, or Adidas people who are into fashion and not necessarily into gaming."
Will-UK - contributor
Published: 596 days 22 hours ago | News | PlayStation 3
 
 

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Relcom - 596 days 22 hours ago
1 - Hand Pound David
Thank goodness they didn't decide to make it a sims clone. Its is a gaming console after all.
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CrazyMystical - 596 days 22 hours ago
1.1 - forgot about the gamers? 0hh that explains why we didnt get that open beta sooner
but seriously i can wait its not that far away
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Feihc Retsam - 596 days 21 hours ago
1.2 - I don't view HOME as gaming at all...
I think HOME is a distraction from gaming. I'm sure it's an attempt to create a sense of individualism and ownership that will encourage people to spend more time on their console, but I think most people still do their casual inter-networking on their PCs. Gaming consoles are still largely regarded as.... Gaming consoles.

Not only that, but I've always been underwhelmed at the concept of HOME. It's NOT revolutionary (Sims meets 2nd Life?) and it just sounds too gimmicky to be interesting for more than a few minutes.

Kinda like taking cab rides in GTA IV... Sure, you might sit through an entire cab ride and change the camera angles for a fun-to-look-at cinematic effect, but eventually, you will start skipping the ride to get to point B.

I see people doing the same thing with HOME. They may "meet up
and "Socialize" at first, but eventually, I think most people will just go back to playing games or watching movies on their PS3
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Tarasque - 596 days 20 hours ago
1.3 -
As long as it is made to intertwin with game's i will be happy, with trophie's and matchmaking and group chat and such. Stuff that has to do with game's and add something to game's. It will be very welcomed, from me anyway's.
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scottie2521 - 596 days 18 hours ago
1.4 - @Feihc Retsam
i agree

and this is why i've been telling those who were over-eager to be in Home to relax. as it is now, there really isn't a huge reason to be in Home other than if you really plan on using you PS3 to meet new people.

i really think they need to add more things that are related to actual PS3 games. playing pool, chess, and bowling are cool, but after a while i'd rather play real games. they should be giving us incentives for using Home, and not let it become something to do to kill time. we can launch games with other people inside Home now, but thats not enough.

it looks like some of the suggestions i've left for them has paid off.
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Stubacca - 596 days 18 hours ago
1.5 - I don't view HOME as gaming either
But I think what Sony are trying to do is to show new gamers and casual gamers how to get involved in the whole community thing. Although it's not something I would get really excited about, I can see all the females I know digging it.

However, it'll be nice to customise things and meet my buddies on PSN from elsewhere in the world.
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toughNAME - 596 days 22 hours ago
2 -
They had to of realized this after the first delay...right?
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Kleptic - 596 days 22 hours ago
2.1 -
you would think...last year at E3 had harrison launching Motorstorm on stage from home with 10 other players...it worked perfectly...

so whatever this guy is talking about has been understood for nearly a year now...
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sonarus - 596 days 22 hours ago
2.2 -
Just excuses and more excuses. Wouldn't be surprised if it gets pushed again
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Captain Tuttle - 596 days 22 hours ago
3 -
It seems like they were more concerned about a revenue stream than a service. Good to see that's changed but I wonder if they'll eventually charge for it? I hope not, keep pressure on MS to make Live free.
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Kleptic - 596 days 22 hours ago
3.1 -
they have stood buy the model of haveing the core service free...

a free apartment (which effectively is like free remote storage space, the size though is still yet to be released)
a free account (with email, messaging, and all that stuff)
free gaming
and a set amount of free stuff for your avatar...whether its tvs (used as the mechanic to display whatever video you want in your apartment) clothes, etc...

the main thing I guess is that you can buy 'better' stuff if you want...buying a second television for your apartment is effectively like buying more bandwidth from a remote server holder, it allows you to stream multiple videos at once...or buying a bigger television that allows you to stream HD video to your friends...same thing...

I don't mind that kind of stuff...its buying designer clothes and stuff that sounds suck to me...but to each their own...
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Drekken - 596 days 22 hours ago
3.2 -
With something of this magnitude and to keep it free to customers, revenue is a very important factor on development and server capacity. Sony is changing the game with home.
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wow4u - 596 days 20 hours ago
3.3 -
Its pretty clear they envisioned home to be a revenue system for its partners.

Paying $3.10 per month for LIVE is well worth it. And, home has nothing to do with it.
3.4 vickers500 | 596 days 20 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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criticalzero - 596 days 22 hours ago
4 - Totoal BS!!!!
This is just an excuse!!!! Sony always does that..They give the reasons which people want to hear!!!......That maybe one of the reasons...but it certainly isn't a big reason why it's delayed!!!

I'm really getting sick and tired of this now...I dont want Home anymore...All this waiting is ridiculous!!!!
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Expy - 596 days 22 hours ago
4.1 -
If you don't want it then stop complaining about it.
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segasage - 596 days 22 hours ago
4.2 - expy , criticalzero have the right to complain if he owns a ps3 and is customer
wiesels like you would never complain to sony, your daddy, for they can do no wrong.

stop telling people how to feel about their product.
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DJ - 596 days 22 hours ago
4.3 - Expy didn't tell him how to "feel about his product"
He simply told him to stop being a crybaby.
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titntin - 596 days 21 hours ago
4.4 -
I'm delighted you feel that way and I sincerely hope you dump your PS3 and never use it.

Nothing could destroy an online community more than having to share it with people like you, so I hope you all go do something else.

Me - I've read Snow Crash and I want to be in 'the street'. I bet theres no way I could create a 'Hiro Protagonist' user though. Someone else is bound to have beat me to it!
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PimpHandHappy - 596 days 22 hours ago
5 - sounds like
they wanted to make money off HOME

if they allow gamers to launch from game rooms it could be very cool. The Warhawk war room was just insight into what they might do.

im in no hurry for HOME so long as when it drops it does some cool things with my games

Im thinking Socom might be the game that makes HOME. Maybe RFOM2. If its not working with those games then HOME is dead
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Expy - 596 days 22 hours ago
5.1 -
The main goal for any company is to make profit.

Edit: lol @ disagree, boy you gotta take some economics. You're in DIRE need of it.
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Drekken - 596 days 22 hours ago
5.2 -
How do you keep something so HUGE free without making money somehow??
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Vip3r - 596 days 22 hours ago
5.3 -
I agree with Drekken. Sony will need lots of sponsors to help pay for Home.
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wow4u - 596 days 20 hours ago
5.4 -
@5.3

They are going to be selling things, Home is going to be a giant mall. The aim is to facilitate microtransactions and toll-booths and such. Its pretty clear that is the aim.
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Mitchell - 596 days 22 hours ago
6 - Hurry up and get Home out
My PS3 isn't going to have any room left from all the goddamn game installs...
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Drekken - 596 days 22 hours ago
6.1 -
beat them, then uninstall the game data. Rocket science simplified by Drekken.
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Mitchell - 596 days 22 hours ago
6.2 - Your science is obvious
But I rarely play a game straight through to it's completion; I'm constantly switching.

Therefore, some games take me forever to beat, but I never get bored.
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Drekken - 596 days 21 hours ago
6.3 -
I can understand that. I just uninstalled game date for a bunch of games over the last year and got over 15g free. There is a lot I rent... I dont buy games that have no multiplayer (except uncharted)
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Nameless - 596 days 22 hours ago
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It seems like they are eventually going to start charging for it & eventually Home will be "required" to start up games & then Sony will end up making their money that way
8.1 poopface1 | 596 days 19 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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Mikelarry - 596 days 22 hours ago
9 - "We've realised that maybe we were too ambitious with the non-gaming applications within Home"
dude u think. but heres to sony releasing it. cuz there are so many feautres home will bring when it does arrive
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whoelse - 596 days 22 hours ago
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Im interested to see what they will come up with. I can see the concept of buying apartments and virtual furniture wont appeal to the core people who buy the console and by doing these changes, they can make sure Home appeals to the core audience.

Id still like to see Nike clothing and stuff, but not as centralized on the Home experience as it could have been.
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PSWe60 - 596 days 22 hours ago
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well atleast they realized what they were doing.
Last thing I would expect from Sony is to pull a Nintendo, ditching the gamers and all
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heyheyhey - 596 days 22 hours ago
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im just as happy for them to spend time pursuing deals with advertisers than spending time on the actual thing

sounds crazy, but im not about to start paying for Home

possibly Home's biggest hook is that its free- so if it turns out to be not as good as we hoped- at least we wouldn't want to be ending up with £30 less in our wallets or something like that

but now im getting tired of waiting for it- if they dont make the August date, no more excuses
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PimpHandHappy - 596 days 22 hours ago
13 - I know its about making money
but PS3 owners wont pay to play online. Some might buy stuff in HOME just to feel cool.

I know i wont spend one dime

i already pay a monthly bill to be online
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tordavis - 596 days 22 hours ago
14 -
I guarantee you they will charge for Home. They won't charge monthly but I think they will charge for the software package. Probably 19-29 bucks. All the servers and dev time and maintenance have to be paid for. I just can't see it being 100% free. So that's my theory.
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heyheyhey - 596 days 21 hours ago
14.1 -
i doubt it

by the time Home launches the PS3 will have a pretty sizeable install base on the PSN who wil use PSN

which is very appealing for companies for advertising oppurtunities- especially publishers advertising new games with trailers

besides if they make you pay for it they will lose a lot of potential users which means less money to be made from advertising
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Real gamer 4 life - 596 days 22 hours ago
15 - Reeves also spoke of the diminishing importance of platform exclusives from third parties, as first-party games become more prominent. "We did Buzz, we're doing LittleBigPlanet, Killzone, and there are obviously others that we're developing. We're becoming less dependent on third parties."
It seems to me that sony is trying todo what nintendo is doing right now. There trying to become less independent of third party company and focusing on their first and second. Well one thing is true they have the most first and second party company then any of their competitors.
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Sev1512 - 596 days 21 hours ago
15.1 - Excellent post
With 3rd party exclusives becoming extremely rare these days. The only way for a console to stand out from its competitors it by having a very strong 1st party lineup. Sony has always done pretty well in this department, but hopefully they can do more.
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Feihc Retsam - 596 days 21 hours ago
15.2 - Probably meant to say...
Less "Dependant" and not "less Independent"
15.3 Bladestar | 596 days 20 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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Fishy Fingers - 596 days 22 hours ago
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Oooh a Home article that doesn't moan on about delays. I'm interested for a change o_O
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Fishy Fingers - 596 days 21 hours ago
17.1 -
Well millions of people use second life so I guess some people want it, why shouldnt Sony cater to them? Its not a forced application, personally I probably wont use it much, but I'll still use it.

Its also much more focused than second life, its will only advertise/push content related to games/sony so it will always be relevent information for every user. A few other features are the game themed room or lobbies. Each game will have a different room designed by that developer, I cant wait to see how some of those turn out and there will be a host of free mini games tucked away inside Home, bowling, pool, chess, arcade games and even users will be able to create games/objects/collectibles etc and place them into the Home universe.

Home is certainly far from my most wanted list but its free and functional in ways. I wont turn my nose up at a free meal as it were.

And from Sonys point of view, there is a lot of money making options in Home, not only from the users but other companies/developers/producers etc who will surely fork out for advertising space.
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sabbath420 - 596 days 21 hours ago
18.1 - amazing looking games...
that you cannot play yet. most of those games are going to suck balls anyway.
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heyheyhey - 596 days 21 hours ago
18.2 -
how much did you crystal ball cost?
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Forbidden_Darkness - 596 days 20 hours ago
18.3 -
@Sabbath420: like what games? in your opinion they may suck because you dont own a ps3 so your basing games off if you wont beable to play them or not.

@heyheyhey: i dont have a crystal ball. its ovious that incognito, ICO and nuaghty dog are making new games because they've said it themselves. its ovious that insomniac is going to have a new game next year because theyve made one every year so far. NC Soft announced they're making games exclusively for the ps3. I dont base the games off rumors, every game i put on there has been announced in some way. no crystal ball needed.
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