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Sony Says: Microsoft Mulls Blu-ray for Xbox 360

Reading Microsoft's response in the Financial Times (requires registration) cynically, one can't help but wonder whether the Redmond-based company wishes Sony had kept it's yap shut. "We have made no such announcement," said Microsoft. "Games are what are driving consumers to purchase game consoles and we remain focused on providing the largest library of blockbuster games available." Which they have, if we judge purely on the basis of software units moved.

The questions now, as I see them, are as follows:

- Does Microsoft view Blu-ray as critical technology in terms of high definition (and true 1080p) hardware video playback? I think the answer to this comes down to where Sony's surge in PS3 sales in January came from, and whether that surge continues in the absence of corresponding video game sales.

- Does Microsoft recognize that doing 1080p -- even streaming -- by download as opposed to physical media is a fool's errand for another half decade (or longer)? Downloadable content as complementary = fabulous. But downloadable content as stand-in for physical media is insanity. Unless you want to also bundle in a cheap 10 Terabyte drive. Lost Season Three alone could probably fill up a good sized chunk of a 1 Terabyte spindle (and don't try to convince me I don't need 1080p -- I do, and I'm not going back, thanks for asking).
Lord Anubis - contributor
Published: 671 days 4 hours ago | Article | PlayStation 3 | Xbox 360
 
 

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g4n - 671 days 4 hours ago
1 - been saying it
you'll need "everyone" on a much faster pipe, like Verizon FIOS, and extremely large hdd's before UXGA quality downloads are a reality... 50gb on a dvd size disk is the "norm" now and its not expected for you to have 50gb of disk space for one game. in the 90's 750mb was a lot of hdd space, hence the cd-rom. blu-ray IS just the next evolution of optical disks. cd-rom(750mb to dvd (10gb) was over 1000% increase in space. the blu-ray (50gb) is oonly a 500% increase, so its not even up to par. do you now see why HD-dvd never stood a chance like ALL technical experts said from day one? and Sony, give m$ the dam blu-ray, it wil. oonly help you...
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TheD_R_E - 671 days 3 hours ago
1.1 - Exactly
and with the state of our economy right now, I don't think that people will be picking up extremely fast internet connections, capable of d/l'ing movies in a resonable time, in "massive" numbers for years. HDTV's will take off however due to the switch to digital in a year and that plays right into blu-ray's success. Hell I just recently bought my HDTV in January and never want to go back. It's this digital download stuff that won't take off for quite some time.

Oh and Bubbles for you man.
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marinelife9 - 671 days 3 hours ago
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I agree with him about 1080P. You don't want to go backwards for downloadable content once you've experienced it.
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TheExecutive - 671 days 4 hours ago
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Bluray is the new format. MS will cave in at some point. It is only a matter of time and both of them know it.
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Blaine - 670 days 16 hours ago
2.1 - Cave in?
I don't think it'd be caving in. In fact, I think Microsoft should have closely examined this possibility from the start. A lot of people will say the PS3 has (or had) no games (I'm not one of them), which is relatively true if you compare it to the 360's library, so what we have been left with for a long time is a BD player. Now, imagine if MS, instead of a peripheral HD-DVD drive, had had a BD drive from the start: the biggest reason to get a PS3 would now be on the 360 as well. Had the 360 had the games AND the BD movie playing capabilities, then the PS3 would be in serious trouble at this point. However (and I say thankfully), MS went with the HD-DVD drive instead.

The question now is whether MS can still implement a BD drive and undermine the PS3's advantage, or if it's too late and the PS3 already has enough steam on it's own in the gaming department to take the lead.
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The Wood - 671 days 4 hours ago
3 - ms cant afford to be wrong n strong on this 1
not directly in terms for finance but the consumers who are growing use to this multi-use consumer goods trend might see the all in 1 ps3 package as the most cost effective choice. Not everybody will care but if ms thought that nobody would of cared about things other than gaming or that they themselves did not want the type of consumer I described they would not of introduced a hd dvd add on.
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P4KY B - 671 days 4 hours ago
4 - MS & Sony are heading in the right direction.
Put Sony components inside MS machine and let MS take care of the software.

Could the Xbox720 and the PS4 be the same thing?
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TheTwelve - 671 days 3 hours ago
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You're going waaaay too far. This isn't communism where everybody should be one big happy family. I would hate that. Competition is good, and may Microsoft and Sony always be different at each other's throats!! (And may Sony always use Linux!!!) We gamers benefit from it!

Anyways, Microsoft keeps talking about "games sell consoles". True. But Games + Blu-Ray sells MORE consoles.

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g4n - 671 days 3 hours ago
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"Anyways, Microsoft keeps talking about "games sell consoles". True. But Games + Blu-Ray sells MORE consoles."
well put! but you can't blamed m$ for that statement. look at Ds vs. ps3.
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Montrealien - 671 days 3 hours ago
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I hate the term `True 1080p` when we have a better resolution will it be tru...er? Such a dumb term.
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TheD_R_E - 671 days 3 hours ago
6.1 - It's fine for now
Considering that any resolution higher than that will be even more expensive, 1080p is true enough for me.
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Guwapo77 - 671 days 3 hours ago
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The term "futureproof" is 1 million times worst than "true 1080p".

Ain't a damn thing electronic is "futureproof".
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Guwapo77 - 670 days 22 hours ago
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I was half sleep when I typed my last comment and should have added what I believed to be the reason for True 1080p meant.

True 1080p - A TV or Player thats native resolution is 1080p.

Reason for the term came about when TVs and Players native resolution of 720p but upscales to produce 1080p pictures. True 1080p is so consumers don't get shafted with actual and just capable.
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PimpHandStrong - 671 days 3 hours ago
7 - THE TRUTH
But downloadable content as stand-in for physical media is insanity. Unless you want to also bundle in a cheap 10 Terabyte drive

and there it is folks. That is why blueray doesnt need to worry about ppl downloading there movies instead of buying them.
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supaflypriest1 - 671 days 2 hours ago
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there are plenty of 1080P movies to download right now for free...
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PimpHandStrong - 671 days 3 hours ago
8 - why hate a term dude
when something better comes along, in say 5 years, they will say

IN TRUE HIGH DEF 1090z or whatever

why care?

chill

peace
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tristanm27 - 671 days 3 hours ago
8.1 - yea, i agree
maybe even 2 or 3 years, there will be something better, but something tells me that this "surge in sales", was due to the fact that people (stupid Consumers) we're out and about, looking for a cheap after xmas deals, and Then we're prayed upon by wild Tech salesman, saying things like "Well HD-DVD is doomed, BUY a BluRay Player", "Hell While your at it, why not buy a PS3, we have tons of them in stock, and You get a BluRay Player and GameConsole in One"....(Stupid Consumer Responds " Duhhh Whats a Playstation???", if its cool i guess i gotta have it ???"
SOLD!
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PimpHandStrong - 671 days 2 hours ago
10 - @8.1
get real dude

The playstation3 is a game system that plays the new gen of high def movies along with being a true entertainment hub. If you really want to see how many ppl are buying PS3 for movies only i guess you can see how many remotes where sold for a PS3. I'll bet its a very small number compared to the total of PS3 sold.

You need to stop hating on the PS3. Unless you really need more proof that Sony made a killer machine.

It has Bluetooth
It has Blueray
It has Browser
It has Games

if the stupid consumer was sold on buying it from a Wild tech salesmen then thats one happy consumer
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sak500 - 671 days 2 hours ago
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Dont mind if they make an external for it. But please no internal as it will alienate 18+ million users.
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PimpHandStrong - 671 days 2 hours ago
12 - @6.2
ive played a PS2 for 7 years and will be buying Twisted Metal soon. That will make it close to 8 years.

Would you say when the PS2 was launched and they said it was future proof that they would have been worng?

I understand what you mean but in terms of a home game system anything that last more then 6 years was future proof

IMO
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sak500 - 671 days 2 hours ago
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YOu forgot except 200+ games with more A+ titles than both ps3 and wii combined. And we are gamers we play games and occasionaly watch movies not the other way round.
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InYourMom - 670 days 23 hours ago
13.2 - Agreed @13.1
Why are people so dense to not see the great library of games the 360 has? I've never had a problem with my console so when I read foolz like 13 talking I just have to wonder..
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Pricey - 670 days 22 hours ago
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why would you take a chance on hardware that has a higher(unsatisfactory 33%) probability of failing. Yes it has a bigger library now, but it was launched earlier. By the end of the two consoles respective life cycles( 360-6 years | ps3-9 years) you will probably see the ps3 has the stronger library. if you cant afford both it's about getting you money's worth. xbox--$280/6 = $46 per year of quality gaming, ps3 $399/9 = $44 per year of quality gaming. Pretty close you would agree but add blue ray player and it suddenly looks different, even if you play games more than watch movie's. I'm not saying the 360 doesn't and wont have awesome games but don't you think ps3 gives you more bang for you buck.

The prices were taken from amazon.com may not be the same everywhere but I would assume it's all relative.
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InYourMom - 670 days 23 hours ago
14 - MS will support Blu-ray
on the Windows side of thing's but for the 360 I don't think we will see any BR support. I wouldn't buy it.
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That_Whore - 670 days 20 hours ago
14.1 - ....................
I have disagree. I don't see MS ever supporting blu-ray at all. They will push digital distribution.
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Pakman99 - 670 days 7 hours ago
15 - Very Interesting Note
I was at Gamestop yesterday talking to reps from Microsoft and Nintendo and they both told me that they will not use Blu-Ray on their NEXT GEN platform. They are both in contact with some company that uses some other HD format (HD-VMD) and I have never heard of it till yesterday on the web after I googled it. They also said that Dreamworks, Artisan Home Ent., and Lions Gate Home Ent. are all in the talks with this company (NME Inc.). After reading what was stated on how this HD format works I could really understand why this would replace standard DVD's but not Blu-Ray (even though it is HD) but I also can see why Microsoft and Nintendo would adopt this format (less price) especially Nintendo. I also fill that if those two was to have that built in format into their Next Gen systems (with Nintendo and Xbox recent success) it would also be enough to keep them afloat till the movie industry catch on. If anyone else have heard this please fill me in.
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Pakman99 - 670 days 1 hour ago
16 - HD-VMD
Has anyone heard about this.
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